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EMERGENCY: Engine failure in the mountains. Longmont (KLMO) to Aspen (KASE) 

Man and a Mooney
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Fly with us to Aspen, Colorado on a beautiful November day. I describe how and where to cross the Continental Divide on our westward journey including go/no-go parameters for winds aloft. En route we pick up VFR flight following from Denver Center and witness every pilot’s worst nightmare: complete engine failure over unforgiving terrain. Mooney N4328H crash lands in the mountains near Salida, Colorado.
After offering assistance with Search and Rescue efforts, we continue onto Aspen where I describe the typical approach procedures on an abnormally quiet afternoon. Our flight terminates in a normal (but beautiful) landing on runway 33.
Video Content:
00:00 - Intro and Takeoff
3:36 - Climb-out and engine cooling
5:17 - Crossing Rollins Pass
14:40 - Mooney Emergency!
20:52 - Flying over Eagle Airport
24:50 - Aspen Approach and Landing

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@siguradam
@siguradam 4 года назад
My dad, Paul Doxey of St. George, UT, was the pilot of the Mooney that went down that day. It was so crazy to hear his voice on the radio. "God help us" sent chills through my body. It truly was a miracle that he and my mom (the passenger) found a clear and smooth place to land and that they had no injuries. The plane was completely fine too. They finally got it out of the cow pasture near Salida with a helicopter yesterday. It turns out that the cause of the engine failure was a loose magneto that fell out mid-flight.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
@Andrea Alba I’m glad you found the video and reached out. After the incident I tried to determine what happened but came up dry. I edited out the silence after your dads last radio call. That was the worst part for me - especially when the controller asked Frontier to monitor for an ELT. My heart sank. Thank you for the follow-up and please give my best to your Dad.
@Xaphoeous
@Xaphoeous 4 года назад
So glad he and your mom landed safely! Great video, Christian. It was nice to hear you immediately throw your own plans out the window to assist with search and rescue.
@MortgageEasy
@MortgageEasy 4 года назад
I had an engine failure in a 1961 money m20b when the magneto came loose during a cross country flight due to an improper repair made before the plane came into my hands. Someone decided to reuse a used lock washer with no safety wire. I walked away from the accident however the plane required engine rebuild and landing gear repair. The money is amazingly robust as I had to put it down in uneven desert terrain near Casper Wyoming and only the nose gear collapsed.
@drchoclate
@drchoclate 4 года назад
What great team work! Glad it was a success. :-)
@robertmurdoch1
@robertmurdoch1 3 года назад
I'm so pleased to hear they came out just fine, and to get your follow-up. Thanks!
@flycatchful
@flycatchful 2 года назад
I have listened to a lot of airborne pilots give real time commentary but this individual is outstanding.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 2 года назад
Thanks Flycatchful. That means a lot!
@digitalpilot6854
@digitalpilot6854 4 года назад
The one thumbs down was a Cessna 150 pilot. Great vid!
@Jeffrey-Flys
@Jeffrey-Flys 3 года назад
And now his flying club jumped in to support him. 😂. (From a 150 rider)
@Xaphoeous
@Xaphoeous 4 года назад
Loving your videos and looking forward to many more! Great commentary, great information, clear speech, and great plane! Subscribed.
@pilot-plane-coffee1678
@pilot-plane-coffee1678 4 года назад
Hey, I'm flying a M20J in the Toronto area. I have been loving your videos, keep them coming!!
@SW-hk6up
@SW-hk6up 4 года назад
Enjoying your videos. Please keep them coming. Have always been a big Mooney fan. So relieved to know the pilot and wife of the other Mooney landed safely.
@skydvrboy
@skydvrboy 4 года назад
Fellow Mooney pilot... Great video!
@petegoldmanmd5758
@petegoldmanmd5758 4 года назад
Thank you much, great stuff! '74 M20C w/ Rajay Turbo bought NEW. 45 yrs same plane. Pete
@callsigncrash8885
@callsigncrash8885 4 года назад
Appreciate your sharing your experiences. New pilot and just purchased a 79 M20k. Planning on getting over to the Rockies and exploring their beauty and this helps!
@outwiththem
@outwiththem 3 года назад
DAmmmm . Rajay Turbo Mooney.. Nice...
@callsigncrash8885
@callsigncrash8885 4 года назад
Appreciate your sharing these experiences with us. New pilot and a new to me plane, 79 M20K. Looking forward to traveling around to many of the places you show. It helps a lot to hear your mountain flying experience!
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
Thanks Crash Works. Hope you're enjoying your K model... i'm a little jealous.
@troyledbetter6597
@troyledbetter6597 3 года назад
Loved the flight and hearing your explanations. Thanks phor sharing.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks Troy. Glad you enjoyed it!
@equaltothetaskaviation6440
@equaltothetaskaviation6440 4 года назад
Hi mate from Australia, just found your channel & i watched a few vlog's and i like what i see so thanks you for sharing your trips in the venerable mooney. looking forward to more great content. cheers and keep it blue side up
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
Thanks Equal to the Task Aviation, I can't believe my videos made it all the way Down Under!
@marcuswray1797
@marcuswray1797 4 года назад
Excellent video keep them coming.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
Thanks Marcus. I've posted a couple new videos since this one. Hope you continue to enjoy the content
@lawrencebuild-it2680
@lawrencebuild-it2680 3 года назад
Great videos. I've watched a few before purchasing my M20F and it really helped with what to expect when I flew it the first time.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks Lawrence, I rarely fly with people in the backseat, but when I do... I wish I had an 'F. Glad the videos helped!
@yodez3
@yodez3 4 года назад
Nice flying, subscribed!
@FallLineJP
@FallLineJP 2 года назад
Great video! Glad to hear that other Mooney made it down safely. The approach to Aspen looks beautiful, bucket list for sure. And a super smooth landing to boot 👍
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 2 года назад
Thanks Fall Line Japan!
@anthonytonyajaxjackson9565
@anthonytonyajaxjackson9565 4 года назад
Loved the video..very informational..thanks🤟🏽♥️
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
You’re welcome 😊
@jimaperkins
@jimaperkins 3 года назад
Nicely done Christian. There is a need for videos like yours to inform other pilots on proper mountain flying in the Colorado Rockies. As a fellow pilot based nearby at FNL, I can say your advice was perfectly aligned with best practices as I have learned them. I look forward to more. Safe flying.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks Jim. Glad you enjoyed them. Give me a shout if you ever see me flying around and I’ll try to keep these videos coming.
@donaldschomer6616
@donaldschomer6616 4 года назад
Love your channel. Very scary with the other Mooney. I used to live in Denver and I flew my M20S all over the same places you do. I’m now in the flatlands in Texas with an M20R (Mooney N750DB). I look forward to more of your posts.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
Thanks Donald. Happy to welcome a fellow Mooney flier to the channel. Those were some tense minutes. I was really happy to hear the pilot landed safely.
@noelmasc.4348
@noelmasc.4348 3 года назад
Fantastic adventure, thanks for sharing fellow PIlot.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
You bet. Thanks for watching Noel.
@aerochet
@aerochet 4 года назад
I have a '63 M20-C and watching your videos of flying over the Rockies is inspiring! I have flown all across the country from Maine to California, but crossing Colorado has always scared me!
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
Glad I could help Chet. While I don't recommend flying in the mountains without the proper training, the M20C is a very capable mountain flyer.
@Jeffrey-Flys
@Jeffrey-Flys 3 года назад
Great video. Simple explanations of complex thoughts... proves you know both your plane and your flight skills. Very cool of ATC Center (obviously had their hands full) to thank you and update you before the handoff . And yeah, I don’t think I have ever seen Aspen that vacant...
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks Jeffery. It was a great example of everyone looking out for one another. Glad you liked the video.
@brlove00
@brlove00 3 года назад
Great videos! My day job is a jet pilot but I’m Just getting back into a single. I have access to a M20K 252 and loving it so far. I’m learning a lot from your videos! I live up in EGE so let me know if you stop in sometime! Hope to see you around. Fly safe!
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks BJ Love. I fly over EGE a ton and land there every once in a while. Great airport. The M20K is a fantastic ship... I might be a little jealous. Would love to meet up and fly together sometime.
@wagnergitirana
@wagnergitirana 3 года назад
Great video! Great flying !
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thank you Wagner!
@HerbOMatic
@HerbOMatic 3 месяца назад
You should come back when you get a chance. You're videos are inspiring. I have a mooney M20F I hope to do some of the same stuff.
@brazeagle
@brazeagle 3 года назад
WOW...miss my mooney... Thanks for sharing.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks for watching!
@AaronGrijalva
@AaronGrijalva 3 года назад
Yikes, that area is insane busy! You should see what it looks like on a radar scope every days west of I25 from FNL south to BJC. Just a mess! Great video and I gotta say thanks for these. Very helpful with my mountain flying checkout coming soon from APA. I’ll be very excited to explore all those places you have shown us in your videos. Thanks for all of your helpful tips.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Aaron, it's my pleasure. Thanks for all YOU do. I've had nothing but wonderful interactions with all the Denver controllers. I really appreciate the support.
@s46778h
@s46778h 3 года назад
Great videos, Man. The upwind leg and the departure legs are two different things tho 😉
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Yeah I know...
@DWBurns
@DWBurns Год назад
I just got a JPI put on my Arrow II, I have most of my time in Lycoming powered Arrows, none with anything but the Piper EGT. My mechanic was shocked how cool my engine runs. At peak EGT, (1550-1600), CHT was only 325-335 at 87-95 MPH IAS.
@bbgun061
@bbgun061 3 года назад
Excellent video! First time I crossed the Rockies was in a 172! We went north from the Denver area and crossed near the border south of Laramie. It looks a lot simpler in the Mooney!
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
The Mooney is undoubtedly better than a 172 for crossing the rocks. That said, if you watch the winds, and leave some weight behind, a 172 is more than capable.
@rlkinser
@rlkinser 2 года назад
Most underrated aviation channel on RU-vid. Please remember us when you’re famous.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 2 года назад
Ha, thank you Lee. That's very nice of you to say
@Captain_Flynt
@Captain_Flynt 3 года назад
I live in Longmont, this is great information to have
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Glad it was helpful William!
@cHVF
@cHVF 2 года назад
I could listen to this all day. Thank you :)
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 2 года назад
Glad you enjoy it!
@robertmurdoch1
@robertmurdoch1 3 года назад
Nicely done!
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks Robert!
@davidrogers4527
@davidrogers4527 3 года назад
Awesome glide back to the airport.. Mooneys are well known for their gliding ability, almost rival many gliders 👍🏼
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks David!
@chrisruf7590
@chrisruf7590 3 года назад
One of the most popular gliders, an ASW-27 has a 48:1 glide ratio. Almost 5X the Mooney. From 10,000AGL it can glide 79 miles.
@callisto8232
@callisto8232 4 года назад
Really interesting. Not a pilot but greatly enjoy your videos.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
Thanks Cory. You're not a pilot "yet". Who knows... :)
@gmill7911
@gmill7911 3 года назад
I did my primary training at Jeffco (now Rocky Mountain Metropolitan Airport). This was fun to watch as so much was familiar, especially flying along the foothills and around Boulder.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks G. You’ll probably like my “IFR to Colorado Springs” video as well. There are lots of familiar sights for you in that one.
@joepassalacqua769
@joepassalacqua769 3 года назад
Really enjoyed this vid. I fly out of Boulder, spend a lot of time doing laps at Longmont n grew up in Colorado, excellent to see this route preformed by someone who knows what they r doing. Thx for the professional narration. Would have been great if you had a belly or wing cam rolling when u crossed over the divide!
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks Joe, In many of my subsequent videos I run a multi-camera setup. Check out my Leadville or Wildfire videos for good views of the Continental Divide: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XgqCNXXbL4M.html
@frankb518
@frankb518 Год назад
Was just in Leadville! Daughter lives there..... I've seen pilots do the simulated flights to prepare to handle Aspen field! I hear it's one of the trickiest in the country....God speed
@joejody7814
@joejody7814 2 года назад
Great video. You have a natural aire.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 2 года назад
Thank you!
@bodabar1
@bodabar1 3 года назад
Excellent!
@dmimcg
@dmimcg 2 года назад
Yes, praying to God to help you should do the trick! Invisible Sky Gods never let you down.
@dandaniel439
@dandaniel439 3 года назад
'Love the Johnson Bar !!! (older Mooney's have a large bar to manually raise and lower the gear.) My first flight at age 16 was in a '68 Mooney. 20 years later I took up flying.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks Dan, I love it as well. It's about as fool-proof as they come.
@RusscanFLY
@RusscanFLY 4 года назад
That was intense!
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
It definitely had me flustered.
@rockymilano2071
@rockymilano2071 3 года назад
Great video. I would put my trust in you to get me there and back.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Ha, thank you Rocky!
@blueyonder360
@blueyonder360 4 года назад
Great mountain flying content. I fly out of KBJC and am going to look at a Mooney M20G this week. I would love to fly my wife to Aspen in it after watching your videos. It will have to be a 20kt kind of day for her to go. Keep up the great content.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Sorry for the slow response... Did you ever get the M20G? Curious to hear how it's working out?
@blueyonder360
@blueyonder360 3 года назад
Man and a Mooney I ended up going with a Piper Cherokee 140 with a converted 180hp engine. Keep an ear out for 7055R as I fly right by Longmont to our practice area.
@vancamjr
@vancamjr 3 года назад
I lean my Mooney in the climb by pulling the mixture until I see the EGTs respond and begin to rise on the JPI/EDM. Once they deflect I push it back slightly to keep things cool having developed the feel for how much to add back. This technique is fast and effective in maintaining the balance between good power & a cool engine.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks for the tips John. I actually do the same. On hot days, I have to leave the mixture pretty rich to keep my CHT’s under 400. That’s why you saw me full-rich until about 10k feet. While that may seem like a lot, it was really only about 5 minutes and 4,000 ft. of climbing.
@drewleevy5420
@drewleevy5420 3 года назад
Hey Man! Just found your channel. Hopefully you keep pushing out videos!
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks Drew, welcome aboard! I’ll try to keep them coming.
@JimBronson
@JimBronson 2 года назад
Interesting. Subscribed! Would like to see what your plan is for departing. Circling climb above the field to ridge height?
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 2 года назад
Thanks Jim. I just responded to your other comment. My recommendation is to always depart "down valley" to the NW. Fly that route until you're above 13k ft. For me, that's usually around LINDZ. Then depart the area on course.
@BJ-iv6ly
@BJ-iv6ly Год назад
Glad I found this video. I'll be flying my M600 into KASE in a few weeks and this was a good primer. I'll no doubt be coming in from the east IFR, but if I get the visual, I'll know what to do. Thanks for taking the time to post this (3 years ago).
@iceman952fl
@iceman952fl 3 года назад
I was flying N42404 before it moved back to CA. I used the same find lift approach and crossed at FOOOT for flights into the mountains. Say hi to Mark in N657J or Alex in N8156S.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Yep, FOOOT, and PENEY are my go-to's for flight planning a Rollins Pass crossing. I'll keep an eye out for Mark and Alex. Thanks iceman!
@PA28-181
@PA28-181 3 года назад
Great informative video! Lot’s to learn! Does your Mooney have a Turbo?
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
It doesn't M, but I think you know that now after watching my Leaning video. Thanks for the compliment.
@jeff1839
@jeff1839 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. Can you provide the waypoints used in your flight plan. I can’t make this work at 12,500 MSL. What am I missing.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 11 месяцев назад
The route is approximately "KLMO FOOOT RLG LINDZ KASE". If you have access to ForeFlight, turn off all your other map layers and turn on the "Hazard Advisor". Other than crossing the Divide at FOOOT, you could fly the whole thing at 9,500 ft.
@ericlozen9631
@ericlozen9631 3 года назад
What A Nightmare - It's so great to hear that they literally walked away from this. Statistically they broke the rules; the Grim Reaper lost this time. I love to hear stories like that.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks Eric, what a nightmare indeed. You can see I was visibly shaken in the video - even after I learned they made it down safely.
@pilot-plane-coffee1678
@pilot-plane-coffee1678 4 года назад
Very informative video. I'm flying Toronto to Flagstaff in a couple weeks, let me know if your available to meet up for a flight. I'll bring my Nikon Z6 and we could share the footage!
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
@Pilot_Plane-Coffee that sounds like a pretty epic x-country. Let me know when you’re passing through. I’m typically around on the weekends.
@jimaperkins
@jimaperkins 3 года назад
I've crossed Rollins Pass many times. My personal planning limit is 30 knots of wind. That is to say, if more than 30 kts wind is forecast at 12,000 feet, I won't go. With that said, I have crossed Rollins pass at 13,000 feet and winds gusting as high as 47 knots with little more than light chop. As passes go, it is one of the most tame out there. On average, 25 knots of winds out of the Southwest is typical when crossing Rollins Pass.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
I’ve found the same Jim. If you can get up to around 14k there’s usually some laminar flow there. Don’t approach the pass below 12k in that type of wind. You’ll be in for an unpleasant ride.
@GC987
@GC987 3 года назад
Nice upload - thanks. I'm not familiar with your aircraft type, nor layout. I wondered what the 3 green lights (behind your gear lever) are ? Sometimes the middle one flashes & sometimes the right one is red (e.g. @ 32:15). I must confess I jumped through parts of the flight - clearly all is well, I was just a little distracted by a green light being red.....
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Good question Graeme. That's actually an Appareo Stratus which is mounted under my panel (my ADS-B in solution). The three lights you see are status indicators for GPS, Battery, and ADS-B-in signal (as read from left to right).
@GC987
@GC987 3 года назад
@@ManandaMooney That would have been niggling away at me had I not found been so kind as to reply ! Looking forward to watching more of your adventures. Thanks !
@ivstov
@ivstov 3 года назад
Did I hear you say that a 10:1 ratio is that for every 1000' alt you will glide 10 000'? 😳😳 That's one slick glide ratio 😉🤣
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Yeah, a good rule of thumb in the Mooney: for every 1000 ft AGL, you can glide 2 miles.
@howtimflies204
@howtimflies204 4 года назад
Awesome video but I'd like to add not all Mooney airplanes run hot. The 200hp+ models don't. The problem is too much opening in the front and not enough at the bottom. I need to get some mountain training around Denver. Do you have suggestions? I like your layout better than mine though. I'd like to add digital backup and autopilot for IMC. You've got a sweet setup.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
Tim, Every year the Colorado Pilots Association hosts a couple mountain flying courses - coloradopilots.org/. I highly recommend those. Unfortunately, they were canceled this year due to COVID-19.
@howtimflies204
@howtimflies204 4 года назад
Man and a Mooney I was actually go into ask you about those. I have family in Fort Collins so I figured I would come up and take a course.
@MrJustin1855
@MrJustin1855 3 года назад
I will trade SEL glide characteristics for MEL that glides like a brick. Guy is lucky for sure. Nice video
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks MrJustin. There are definite pros/cons to twin engine flying. If a PIC is committed to reoccurring training, I'd say a twin is typically safer. Loss of both engines... put me in a single any day.
@mod.ambience2733
@mod.ambience2733 Месяц назад
I'm a pilot living in Longmont, but waaaay out of currency and proficiency. It's great to see your trips up into the mountains from LMO. I'm curious about your gear indication lights. The right main was showing red on your approach into Aspen. Is that an abnormality? Also, what a relief that the forced landing was successful for the other pilot!
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney Месяц назад
Keen eye. That’s actually an Appareo Stratus (ADSB receiver), not a gear indicator. As you fly lower in the mountains you’ll struggle to receive ADSB-in signals - as indicated by those changing lights.
@mod.ambience2733
@mod.ambience2733 Месяц назад
@@ManandaMooney ahh, thanks for the clarification. I haven't really flown since the pre-ADSB days, but will be getting back into it soon. Good to know!
@haroldjackson9453
@haroldjackson9453 3 года назад
Enjoyed your video very much. I own a 69 M20C with 78 J model engine so I call it my "C/J". Did I hear correctly on your audio that you nicknamed your airplane "Marge"?
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks Harold. Yep she's named "Marj" after my grandmother.
@haroldjackson9453
@haroldjackson9453 3 года назад
@@ManandaMooney Cool. I named mine Marvin K. in honor of Dr. Seuss.
@IndependentBear
@IndependentBear 3 года назад
When did he do an engine run-up, checking temps, pressure, mags ,etc? Not just before take-off when I always have?
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Be thankful I didn't include all that as it would have been even more footage for you to blissfully skip over. You're so quick to judge the content of my video without even reading the description or actually watching it. Let me guess, you watched the first 12 seconds and then you skipped to the end to see a fiery crash? Thanks for pointing out what a safe pilot you are... checklist complete.
@duanegabardi2182
@duanegabardi2182 3 года назад
Ron D'Eau Clair sounds like he has a little Pilot envy! Love the Videos! I have flown the same plane for 35 years, 1963 M20C.
@MrBro-fb7iy
@MrBro-fb7iy 3 года назад
Can you recommend a good flight school to learn mountain flying around that area?
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
I can't recommend a specific flight school but I will say the Colorado Pilots Association is a great resource: www.coloradopilots.org/ They host a Mountain Flying ground school twice a year but I think both were canceled this past year due to COVID. Check out the description of this video for more references: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DeTkEmoLCdU.html
@roberttebb8770
@roberttebb8770 3 года назад
What yoke mount do you use for your ipad
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 2 года назад
Hey Robert, I use an X-naut with a RAM mount
@gwndds
@gwndds 3 года назад
On your descent try pulling prop back to 2200rpm and that will help keep cylinders from cooling to quickly, Works on my Bonanza
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Thanks George, I'll give that a shot
@robertharris_1
@robertharris_1 3 года назад
How much concern do you have flying a single over the terrain you fly?
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
There’s always concern. A good pilot is always weighing risk/reward and planning multiple contingencies. You’ll find the routes I fly in the mountains are often over roads and lower terrain. I do what I can to lower risk wherever possible.
@frankkudos7338
@frankkudos7338 3 года назад
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3 года назад
Ever hike over to do Hanging Valley Wall?
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Mark, Sure have. Snowmass might just be my favorite resort in Colorado. For some quick-laps try AMF and Gowdy's. Ride up Cirque about 300 yards and then bail to the left. You can also hike to from top of Sheer Bliss/Big Burn.
@joopbekkema6490
@joopbekkema6490 3 года назад
No need to start every transmission with "longmont" you do it only once on your initial contact. Thereafter just use your callsign. They know you are on their frequency and on that frequency you can only call one identity: Longmont.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Joop, That’s TERRIBLE advice. Longmont is a non-towered airport and traffic should start and end transmissions with “Longmont”. I’ll admit, I occasionally shorten my calls but only after I’ve established my place in the pattern. I can only hope you’re referring to towered airport communications with that recommendation.
@joopbekkema6490
@joopbekkema6490 3 года назад
Man and a Mooney sorry I did not know Longmont is a non towered airfield.
@erictaylor5462
@erictaylor5462 2 года назад
4:05 I imagine overheating the engine will effect performance as well.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 2 года назад
Absolutely, especially in the long run. Overheating can lead to oil leaks, damaged cylinders, etc.
@BLD426
@BLD426 3 года назад
If you've ever really had one you know your first instinct is to stand straight up & look down over the nose😁
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Hahah I'm sure it is. While I hope to never have one, it's always in the back of my mind...
@Outlaw0770
@Outlaw0770 4 года назад
Oxygen running at 12,500 feet?
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
Yes, I crossed the Divide at over 14K feet, so I turned on O2. Oxygen is cheap and I feel more alert when I use it. I probably could have taken it off once I dropped back down to 12.5K but got a little distracted by the emergency.
@Outlaw0770
@Outlaw0770 4 года назад
Man and a Mooney Thanks for the response. I like the videos. I am purchasing a Mooney now and I am torn. Between the 1969C and 231 with MB engine in it. I live on east coast and a lot of flying done bellow 10k. But I’m afraid C would be barely moving in these higher density alltiudes when I go to visit family in Arizona.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
@@Outlaw0770 Those are two very different machines, at two very different price-points. One could conceivably own three M20C’s for the price of one M20K. True, the K performs better, but not 3 times better. You really need to ask yourself what is your mission profile? If you typically fly with only 1-2 people, the C will do just fine - even at high density altitudes. If you plan to fill the seats, both you and your passengers will be much happier with a K. PS. That MB engine pretty much turns that 231 into a 252. Let me know if you get it, I’d love to go for a ride.
@Outlaw0770
@Outlaw0770 4 года назад
Man and a Mooney. Absolutely it would be my pleasure. I’ll keep you posted.
@rnordquest
@rnordquest 4 года назад
If you look at the long term effects of even mild hypoxia on things like neural plasticity in your brain you might be using it below 10,000.
@mmichaeldonavon
@mmichaeldonavon 3 года назад
You were not "Upwind" on 11 - you were on the "Departure" end of 11.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Ahhh the “Departure” vs “Upwind” argument. I will start by saying: you are absolutely correct. The problem is, “Departure” is a relatively young expression (less than 5 years or so) and there are many pilots out there who still subscribe to the “Upwind” phraseology. I find I use both. Not intentionally, but accidentally. Check out my Block Island video for my use of “Departure”. That said, I will make a conscious effort to use “Departure Leg” if you will extend a graceful understanding to pilots who sometimes use one, or both of these phrases. If for nothing else, your own safety in the pattern.
@lloydhorton4290
@lloydhorton4290 3 года назад
I've landed a Lear jet there on flight simulator. LOL
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
That’s basically the same thing ;)
@michaelzaug8750
@michaelzaug8750 3 года назад
My friend Ralph died in his Moony. He had a real bad case of gotta get there and flew through some extreme icing conditions in NM in November 2013.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Sorry to hear that Michael. That's why IMC in the mountains is a no-go for me. You have a very limited operating window. My service ceiling is right around 18k ft. Many of the MEAs over our mountains are 14-16k ft. That gives me 2-4k feet to play with. That’s not enough to safely escape an icing encounter.
@TomCook1993
@TomCook1993 Год назад
I hate busy uncontrolled fields. Too many idiots
@willieb6993
@willieb6993 4 года назад
Absolutely hate busy uncontrolled fields. A product of class C training and home field.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 4 года назад
It’s not usually that busy. The beautiful weather had everyone out and about. Would have been nice to have a tower that day.
@10MinutestoRouletteFortune
@10MinutestoRouletteFortune 3 года назад
And for a $150k recovery fee, he can get his plane back.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Actually, he already has it back - and for far less than $150k. If you’re interested here’s a video of the recovery: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WIQru6OF2uA.html
@10MinutestoRouletteFortune
@10MinutestoRouletteFortune 3 года назад
@@ManandaMooney Very impressive. Thank God for insurance and his luck.
@jstflyin
@jstflyin Год назад
Hi, is it possible to get in touch with you via email?
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney Год назад
Sure, you can email me @ manandamooney@gmail.com
@cyrooski4
@cyrooski4 3 года назад
Nice video but I think your engine leaning ideas are antiquated. there's no fear of detonation probably after climbing through two to three thousand feet. Fuel only cools the engine at extreme amounts of fuel otherwise it actually makes it burn hotter so the way to cool an engine is to lean to rough and then in enrichening just enough to make the roughness go away.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Cyrus, thanks for the input. Call me antiquated but I’ll stick with the recommendations in the POH, Lycoming Service Manual, and nearly every article I’ve read on the subject. I only lean below 75% power. My ‘C loves to run hot on climb out and running rich seems to help - at least in my experience. I encourage everyone to explore what works for them and their airplane.
@cyrooski4
@cyrooski4 3 года назад
@@ManandaMooney This old school shell is hard to crack. Its 1935 leaning knowledge applied to 1935 designs. The rest of us are moving on....Rotax, electric, computer regulated engines....
@tomdewitt4148
@tomdewitt4148 3 года назад
Yup. Read some current literature and make that climb lean of peak (LOP).
@IndependentBear
@IndependentBear 3 года назад
WHERE was the engine failure? It was NOT in the video.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Ron, the Mooney Emergency is at 14:40. Sorry you weren't able to see me crash as it appears that's what you were looking for here. I encourage you to read the video description next time.
@tomdewitt4148
@tomdewitt4148 3 года назад
Engine/engine cylinder “shock” cooling is an Old Wives Tale.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Tom, I’ve heard arguments from both sides. Since I pay the bills, I do what I can to minimize wear and tear wherever possible.
@tomdewitt4148
@tomdewitt4148 3 года назад
Well if you really want to save costs, don’t run CHT up to 400 dF. That will do far more damage than “shock” cooling. Seek out and read John Deakin’s columns.
@richardheinichen8279
@richardheinichen8279 3 года назад
Made me nervous watching you touch your microphone so much.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Just incase the engine failure didn't raise your heart rate, me touching the mic will do it ;)
@tztz1949
@tztz1949 3 года назад
Go fly gliders. Engine outs are normal. We're not afraid for our lives when the gas tank goes dry.
@ManandaMooney
@ManandaMooney 3 года назад
Not exactly an apples to apples comparison. While the Mooney glides well, it can’t compete with the high aspect ratio of a glider wing. I fully support the statement that some glider experience would improve pilot skills - especially in the mountains.
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