Emergency Rappel | Two Full Rope Lengths 

Thanks... I gave up trying to be perfect a long time ago.

@@summitseekersexperience “super good enough” - Black Diamond mechanical designers

Rule number 1: Get off the mountain safe!

thanks!!!

yeah boi

for sure!

Good point... I suppose you could leave it... if there was lightning right next to me, I would.

You could leave it if you are absolutely positive that the rappel gets you to safety. If there is any question then that cord may be necessary to further the self rescue.

Correct, the climber is tied off closing the system.

Definitely an option, I assume you mean the MOFT knot pass procedure. The issue with that and I may highlight this on a separate video is lowering 200 feet to the knot to pass on a munter will result in a huge amount of twist in the rope and you may get stuck. You maybe can mitigate this by lowering on a super munter and then taking out the super munter loop right before the knot, then putting the loop back in after the knot is passed. I'll try it out this weekend and see if that works and if it does, make a good video on it.

@@summitseekersexperience Awesome. Thank you for the feedback, I’m always trying to learn new things

@@summitseekersexperience In my experience, just holding the brake strand absolutely parallel to the load strand takes care of the twisting issue. You might get one or two twists, but you get those (or more) with the rope running over the sideplate of the Grigri as well. Having the brake strand in that position is not always possible either, really depends on your stance at the anchor. I would much prefer letting the knot pass through the munter as well, that would be my go to method. Still very important to know all the other ways of lowering and doing load transfers though.

@@raphaelbeinhauer9242 Good insight. I'm gonna run a few tests this weekend and share with everyone some data. But yeah, knowing all the tools obviously opens up the most options and gives one the most confidence.

It's also easier to get stuck in a crevice when pulling the rope. The overhand bend is the standard for lowering on miltipitch routes with more than one rope because it is less likely to get stuck. He's not pulling the rope afterwards in this case so he could use the double fisherman's, but since the go to method is the overhand bend he preferred to use it.

If I'm belaying caterpillar I'll usually have a grigri. I normally do not not have a grigri although sometiems it may be in my pack.

In an emergency, there might be a second party on the route, and you can team up with them. Then you'd have two ropes.

can also simul rap if two ppl have grigri

@@mr.apartment Yes, but then you only get the 60m length, not 120m.

I know that you americans use it a lot but we in europe, only for hard multipitch with a lot of falls use it, or at least it is just me. It is a lot of weight and the same rope manouver you should do it with prussiks. Alway climb safe

for sure