Emmanuel Macron's Russia Strategy: Four Dimensional Chess, or Tic Tac Toe? 

What's a "leason (sic)"?

​​@@PrimericanIdolThe lesson is that appeasement doesn't have a great track record of success. You don't want to be rolling over for the bully just because they're threatening WWII. That's exactly how we got WWIi.

Yeah the fall of france really had more to do with the apathy and terrible mentality of the french leaders more so then the military In theory the france military was superior to germany and under proper leadership could have won or put up a terrific fight But the fucked up beuracy and apathy in france made it into a disaster

It almost feels like he's pulling a Caligula or a Trump move. If you act fucking crazy enough, the other guy might blink. Or to quote a great historian, he's "throwing a quackbang".

​@b.a.m.5078 "You can get away with some pretty audacious crap if you're willing to be fast, violent, and naked." - Anonymous E4, U.S. Army

Are you gonna go fight when it all kicks off?

​@Kody-mo3fy he won't need to if he isn't already in the Military. America could handle this without help or much risk.

@@toddlawrence6872 you are a genuinely evil person

@@Kody-mo3fy So, how is the whole Kyiv in 3 days plan going for you on day 822 of Putin's disastrous 10 day 'Special Military Operation'? 😂

France is just upset about Africa and is kicking up a tantrum.

The "we really fucking mean it" warning shot.

And this policy can only realistically work towards a country without nuclear weapons. If they "indicate" their red line this way to another nuclear armed country - it will be a game over.

@@agvit4755well, no. it's a pretty good taste test, which has potential to spark second thoughts before the gg

This is called brinkmanship. Whoever is williing to escalate the furthest, without actually going to war, wins because the other guy backs down. This works only so far as the other guy actually backs down. France has 290 nukes. More than enough to be a VERY credible deterrent; no country can afford to lose its 290 largest cities. (290 nukes isn't 290 cities, of course, still, the point is visually fair enough.).

Exactly

AI simulations always start with a preventive strike as best defensive move. How effective would Ukraine have been if Ukraine was armed to attack Russian staging area as they crossed border. I know it seems wrong, but Hamas gets more support for massacre and rape than defending Israelis.

😂😂🤦🏼‍♂️🤦🏼‍♂️😊

Why nato got involved into the middle east then?

@@maxinabo NATO got involved in the afghan war because a NATO member had been attacked. However, NATO did not get involved in the Iraq war during the 2003 invasion/occupation because it wasn’t a defensive war

What are you talking about? When the war in Ukraine began, in 2014 of course, france was forced to cancel the sale of 2 helicopter carriers to russia! In 2022 macron went to Moscow and tried to talk putin in not escalating the war in Ukraine! France has always been a problem for nato and the entire Europe!

Wait what the heck? When was that?

@@wasdupdownleftright novichok poisoning in Salisbury

@@SmileyMack I remember that one. It was all over the news and internet when it happened.

@@SmileyMack and in 2005 Russia posioned Litvinenko. For a long time most people (including me) preferred to believe that Putin was somehow not personally responsible for these actions.

Nah

This guy is incorrect - massively. He stated that NATO’s article V guarantees war. It doesn’t. It allows for war. It’s up to each nation in NATO to decide if they want to participate. If he was that far off, what does that mean for the rest of his analysis?

​@NoOneToNoOne89 agreed. The Abrams and Leopard chassis' are old not the tech inside.

@@NoOneToNoOne89 The ambiguity of article 5 is the biggest weakness of it. Aside from being completly untested. And there is the Danger... would the Nato Country's go to War for a small town that can doom the world? Or would Nato let Russia eat up more and more of the Continent, to prevent it? If Article 5 doesn't get enforced it will be the end of Nato in the long run.

Macron has been a fool since day 1, going to meet with Putin talking to him for hours, willing to make deals like Chamberlin, total nonsense and a failed leader. He achieved nothing and after years of war he tried to be some European flag holder carrying a burden yet France his country under his control has given very little to Ukraine. He talks one side of the mouth and does the total opposite. Macron is weak and a coward.

I did not know that. Can you point to a source for that ? Thanks.

Least they could do after waving white flag

​@@jamiebrooks3864France literally fought the entire war, the main army just didn't fight for years on the mainland. Officers didn't take warnings seriously and the whole Benelux offensive thing. The French army stayed behind to cover the failed British intervention in Dunkirk. Free France sunk the traitor's fleet and fought all over Africa. Then the resistance was a vital key to the D-Day invasion. Stick to stupid comments instead of historical facts, you're much better at that.

@@Tsusday 😂 OK iv Been told. The brits was the brains and support of the resistance, nazi invaded Russia which made D day possible along with USA and British empire countries, the French was and are useless. Back to history lessons for you. My statement still stands, white flag and history of defeat by tiny island that ended up saving them How did French defence line hold up Answer Germans drove around it, either Germans was genius or French was useless You decide

@@jamiebrooks3864 "I've been told" yeah that's what I thought. You didn't bother to read about actual history, France held longer than Poland. Yet you don't see people meming about white flag Poland. French officers didn't think Germany would invade the Netherlands or Belgium (Kaiser residing in the Netherlands as well as most old German veterans). It really didn't make any sense initially. German blitzkrieg empowered that breach, that by the times French knew of the Benelux invasion, panzers were already inside France. Free France left the main continent with literally 60% of the navy. They then sunk Petain's remaining navy that didn't want to fight Germany. This weakened a lot Germany's sea lion possibilities. More than half of the French army didn't surrender and fought all war long. Want to remind us why the UK didn't want to send troops in France on the day of Declaration of war against Germany? And when they did, they failed miserably and nearly got wiped if not for the French troops who stayed behind to cover. their retreat on CIVILIAN FISHING BOATS. What royal navy doing?!! (Ukraine 2023 reference) What made D-Day possible was Japan's attack on the US. The US wasn't planning on joining the war at all, just supplying weapons and goods to the Allies. The Soviet Union invaded Poland with Germany, then when Germany betrayed them, it became convenient to seek help from the Allies. With the lend-lease act, which gave Russia a lot of western equipment, from trucks to tanks, boots, planes and fuel. Germany's blunder was to not invade the UK and bomb their cities instead of airfields. Otherwise we'd all be Germans now. France historically is the country with the most recorded victories out of any other standing country. Losing only a few wars in the 1700-1800's as per modern times. It also won the WW1. You literally don't know anything about WW2 except meme propaganda. France was fighting all over Africa. And your bit about the resistance is hilarious. Britain chuted equipment and sabotaged some infrastructure. But the French Resistance was the most effective resistance inside Europe. Even the Polish uprising wasn't as damaging to the German command.

ok we are waiting, too much talking

I agree. Think of all the lives on both sides that would have been saved if the US just said no and then backed it up with boots on the ground pre invasion.

@@toddlawrence6872 Or, even simpler, just declared Ukraine to be under NATO's protection. Eff around and find out...

It seems that we are to blame, as goes the US so goes the world and Jesus have we failed

Easy to be brave with other people's children.

I think people forget ww2 started with appeasement. Action must be taken if we are to arrest the idea that tyranny can go unchecked.

in general Macron is pushing these narratives to distract and deflect from frances more than lackluster commitment in ukraine aid. (Frances economy is 3/4 the size of germanies, france is the largest european weapon producer and exporter and still france barely gets 1/8 of the german aid shipped plus wants european partners to pay for that aid)

This war is for Russia to win it , Macron was frustrated when he learned his special forces died in Ukraine, French forces are in Ukraine and that’s not a secret also lots of rented soldiers from poor South America countries which are the first to die ; why? because Ukrainians are sending to the front rented forces when they are behind watching

-- Sun Tzu

Hope you will lead the front line when it starts? Very easy to type trash at the comfort of your while eating burgers

@@stevenwilliams3015but he is right though😂😂 Saying that was a bit foolish. Maybe good to calm down your own people but Putin heard ”do as you will in Ukraine”.

Action reaction no one party to blame.one sided is self serving

Yes indeed, we really try

Ironically they are still being blamed because of Scholz' hesitations.

I disagree. Germany is making all of their decisions for purely capitalist reasons. If they could have retained access to their cheap gas and oil from Russia Germany could care less what happened around them. That's why someone (cough cough) blew up NordStream. Germany's loyalties were wobbly (or non-existent) as long as the cheap gas was available.

if it happens they can say " I did Nat Zi that coming" .... il let myself out...

They never were the ones who cause WW1 or WW2

Russia has nukes or cyber attacks.

@@TheWedabest so does France

​@@I_Am_AngkongFrance is a small fish compared to Russia, don't compare the two

​@@alinaswesimutowe9386The opposite, rusia is a small fish compared to France, the two don't compare.

@@I_Am_Angkong I'm just saying what response russia has. Not trying to compare the two.

French clown running a phony show.

Aged like milk after the EU elections

Russia isn't interested in calling the shots in Europe. They just object to NATO expanding eastwards?

Nations like Germany have become total cowards and unwilling to use weapons or back up their friends. They seem more worried about flooding their own country with migrants willing to work for pennies.

But it's not UFC. It's thermonuclear war. I got kids. Don't care about Ukraine or countries thousands of miles away. We should take care of ourselves.

At least this is something that Boris Johnson (during Brexit negotations with the EU) and Donald Trump (to convince other NATO countries to increase their defense spending) understood. Not that I am a fan of either.

So why are u Wasting energy on writing this comment instead of sending your son to the frontline in the name of Macrons.

@@serotoninexplosion7060 We can do both.

My thoughts

That's pretty fast

Exactly 💯 😂😂

Funny thing is both are done quickly and efficiently, but only one of them is done with quality and a shining bald head

quality analysis? BS By the way, US think tank CSIS admits previous claims of Russia's flagging military industrial output were inaccurate. CSIS reports massive production numbers of Russian tanks, artillery guns and shells, as well as drones, missiles, and electronic warfare systems. CNN has now published an article which finally acknowledges that the Russians are currently producing at least three times as many shells as the entire collective West is producing.

For a certain definition of quality and fast lmao

I really like his a-political coverage. Fact boi knows we’re just here for the facts

Caspianreport

Agreed

​@@DEC3TheWokeProjectPerun

​@@DEC3TheWokeProject Also great

I second that!

I third that. Surprisingly reasonable and even neutral takes for the level of target audience, no offense.

Plus 1. Well done Simon and Basement Team.

@@dannydetonator fr. ifl most of us can tell when we're being fed biased info or led in a certain direction, & get turned off pretty quick even if we agree. Simon and the team do a great job of both unbiased reporting while also bringing us interesting & headliner topics.. The accent is just icing on the cake! 😂😂

Fourth that

As a fellow American I completely agree.

Same. Deterrence through strength requires strategic ambiguity with the real possibility of the use of force.

sadly its all talk and nothing else. oh, by the way france has given much less compared to other countries to support Ukraine.

@@AL-lh2ht It starts momentum. Its what we needed to shake up the appeasement nonsense that has been going on.

as an American, fuck him and fuck you bro. I am sick and fucking tired of fighting war after war after war for some far flung nation that has nothing to do with us. Ukraine has nothing to do with us. They are not NATO. They are not some major economic trading power like Taiwan or Korea. It was a corrupt kleptocracy run by plutocrats. We have far too many problems on the homefront to be bailing our Europe from its own fucking mess AGAIN.

You're a legend. Thank you.

how about this news? welcome to hell: 29.05 The Russian Aerospace Forces launched a strike with a hypersonic Kinzhal missile at the Yavorovsky training ground in western Ukraine. At least 300 people were killed, including personnel from NATO countries. It is noted that the evacuation of the wounded is actively underway in Poland. Since the start of the war, this training ground has been a hub for large troop movements for extensive deployment and training several times since it is so close to the Polish border, and each time the Russian army launched surprise attacks on it. (there is a video too)

Russia will NEVER be a democracy. Too proud of a nation to ever bend the knee to the west. The Chinese will see to it that such a thing never happens as well. Do you know what it took to turn Japan into an ally? Also, the US occupation continues to afflict Japan like an infection to this very day.

Preach

The only thing keeping NATO from destroying Russia is Russias nukes. Their army is being stopped by a much smaller and less equipped nation as it is. With NATO air superiority Russia would crumble. But everyone is worried about those nukes. I truly believe Russia would not use the nukes unless NATO went into Russias borders. Just my opinion.

The French always have been. They have a weird reputation because most of the world doesnt understand how things work. I barely do. But there is a reason the French have been around as long as they have been, and there is a reason they've had loads of power throughout history.

I just don't think it is wise for nuclear-armed nations to go to war in anything short of real existential purposes. At that is what would happen if NATO gets involved with boots on the ground in Ukraine. Ukraine simply isn't worth a nuclear exchange, especially when they had the chance to join the West over a decade ago.

Something like this. Sadly France is mostly talk and fairly few real support. Even Germany does a lot more than France.

​@@TheDunbartxeenhow do you know?

I agree with Putin that the West can't keep trying to take over the entire world.

You never stepped backwards - you always stepped forwards. Take the expansion of NATO as an example of that.

​​@@stevehobdell466We never made anyone join NATO. They asked to join, and it's not hard to see why. Russia doesn't like when sovereign nations around them want the right to self determination, which is why Russia has a track record of bullying it's neighbors, and forcing them to to either cede land or be a vassal state. Things are the way they are because of Russia.

Slava 🥖🥐

​@@stevehobdell466 That is blatantly false. NATO did not have a policy of expansion. Countries *asked to join* because they felt threatened. Russia does not get to play the bully and then complain that its victims are seeking protection.

Well, people though that leopards would turn the tides pf the war, then thought the same about abrahms and now about f-16, so yeah, its a PR victory for Russia

​@@javiervargas9862People are stupid if they thought that. We do like to reduce things to the simplest possible equation though. In reality, those things certainly helped or will. It simply isn't a case of any single action magically resolving a complex situation.

@@javiervargas9862 I’m not sure of a creditable person that thought 100 tanks would auto win the war in Ukraine, doubly so when Germany never thought to make enough spare parts….again…or 31 Abrams for that matter. Maybe 3000 Abrams and leopards would do something

Russia has proven how useless tanks can be for offense, unfortunately, Ukrainian military doctrine is based on Soviet doctrine. NATO doctrine has a steep learning curve, especially with limited air support

29.05 The Russian Aerospace Forces launched a strike with a hypersonic Kinzhal missile at the Yavorovsky training ground in western Ukraine. At least 300 people were killed, including personnel from NATO countries. It is noted that the evacuation of the wounded is actively underway in Poland. Since the start of the war, this training ground has been a hub for large troop movements for extensive deployment and training several times since it is so close to the Polish border, and each time the Russian army launched surprise attacks on it.

They certainly covered themselves in glory in ww2 hoo boy! 🙈

@@Ghaztoir by all accounts, the free French fought like demons, and most people like to forget that the rear action they fought allowed the BEF to flee dunkirk. This is to say nothing about a 2,000 year history ranging of highly desired equestrians, a southern bulwark of Christianity, the fact that French was the most widely spoken language for centuries, and a couple goes at *basically* world domination. The meme is funny, but on the balance...history tends to favor the French.

Oh and how can I forget the most salient point: they lost the battle of France (as did Britain), but won the second world war as one of the Allies.

When you have to actively explain to your allies what that is, yeah it kinds of lose some of its use.

Right? If you spell it out, it’s no longer ambiguous.

​@@_Otthotbf. The two other major players in europe. Germany and the UK. Seem more interested in beating their glue munching records than actually being leaders. So Macron really had to.

@@romanplays1 macron is using these talkingpoints to distract from the lack of proper support to ukraiine from france (UK and France combined are not as strong in aid as germany alone)

The objective is to be coy, Brazil is also known to pursuit diplomatic ambiguity, it doesnt clearly align with a bloc(except in South America where the reality is diferent). This is so they maintain relations with all sides. This can be done, another version of this was the early reports early on in the war that Putin was dieing or crazy. That is the Mad Man strategy of Nixon, creaty the idea in your oponent that you are not a rational actor, making it more cautious. Putin is perfectly fine, but the constant saber rattling keeps Europe always wondering if Ukraine can have X, Y or Z equipment. Just say fuck it, and Russia will come to the table, we probably cant win Donbas or Crimea, but we can make the war unbelivably expensive, the first year was mostly stocks Russia has but they are almost going to 10% of GDP in defense, its getting expensive, and it will keep rising, we need to give Ukraine the means to increase economic pain, loosing Air planes would be very expensive, attacking infrastructure in Russia would too be very expensive.

Slava 🥖

and don't forget France was also occupied by the Nazis. France has every reason to understand Ukraine's situation. Germany is the only country that would find that difficult.

So many thousands of French patriots died fighting the invasion of 1940....please do not dishonour their sacrifice for doing their duty...albeit enmeshed in an military conceived for the wrong campaign. They fought as an army conceived to maximise late- WW1 tactics. Just as a hundred young Russians die today fighting under 1980s Soviet tactics😢🇫🇷❤️🇺🇦

@@alanburke1893 agreed 👍

Macron is just trying to distract everyone because France is losing its grip on French colonies overseas

Throw Perun into the mix. He does a really great job of breaking down defense procurement and strategy

WORD!

welcome to the whistler universe bud, might i suggest some brain blaze for some fun and relaxation? or maybe some decoding the unknown? hahaha been following fact boi here for years and this warographics project is rather recent comparatively and has been a HUGE success when we all dont shit all over the ai art hahahahahahaha

This is probably the most uneducated comment I've seen so far

@@capes8395 Then yours is the most naive so far.

Sounds like France in New Caledonia

@@needsmetal France was a superpower? When?

@@xjunkxyrdxdog89yeah I agree France ain’t a pushover but superpower? Simply look at land mass

​@@michaelf.2449 Was referring to Russia

@@xjunkxyrdxdog89 Well from the 10th to the 19th century, pretty much.

Dj macron

I'd go to that rave...

Can't unsee it now lol.

@@Michael-sl9vi D-Jam Manuel in da house!

Europe is slowly but surely getting there these days. One of the factors that inspired this special military operation.

Slava 🥖

Standing up to them for what? Trying to stop a civil war on their door step created by US wanting that sweet sweet gas and oil pipeline from Syria or plan b East Ukraine.

Not every action taken by a NATO memeber state is considered an action by NATO. France has fought wars recently in Africa for example, which were not seen as NATO actions. NATO members can still act unilaterally at their own risk.

This doesn’t have to do with article 5.

Back to your hole Russo-bot

@@YetiTurmoil what? who?

Such a magnificent achievement. Well done.

Longer than i lasted, no jk

Consequences will never be the same this time

Loser

It's happening. Slower than preferable, sure, but it's happening.

USA is always at a war economy, while us in the EU aren't in a constant war economy, it takes time to crank up the EU to be a war economy

@weybye91 hopefully they won't drop too such low levels of military readiness anymore, though. I don't think EU needs American levels of military spending, but enough to hold back serious external threats until the US can show up at the least. It's not smart to leave your national security to another nation ya know lol

I agree, but that might require "austerity" in areas of their economy that few in the EU have the political courage to face. That is the primary reason Germany behaves the way they do. Russia made a mistake when they threatened to cut off the gas to Germany, and someone ultimately blew up Nord Stream. If the Germans could have kept access to their cheap gas, Germany would have done nothing to help and Russia could have probably forced them out of NATO.

Europe should definitely be able to stand without the US. With the way US Republicans have been venerating Russia lately I am not even sure what side of the conflict we will be on in January.

Problem with the "coalition of the willing" is that all of the NATO nations who attack Russia outside of their own borders (e.g., Russia hasn't invaded Estonia first) give up the right to demand NATO alliance action when Russia hits their countries directly. If they go in, they have to be sure they can beat Russia without the other NATO members who are reluctant to fight Russia dire try, which will likely include Hungary, Turkey, and the U.S. It would tear NATO apart.

​@@teresabenson3385you forget Iraq, NATO went in and helped USA with Iraq, even thou no NATO country was attacked

@@weybye91 Yeah, that's only because it was the U.S.-- who just used that NATO piece of paper as an excuse to not look like OIF was totally vindictive and personal. If France was attacked by a terrorist group from Mali and they tried to get NATO to help them invade Algeria, the rest of NATO would just laugh at them.

@@teresabenson3385 The process they would be looking at that coalitions troops could be struck (when involved in combat operations) within Ukraine, but an escalation would occur if a coalition would strike directly into Russia or directly into a coalition states. What you are proposing is missing several steps on the ladder.

Nice bot comment

@@fastair8546 well well what do we have here? A rather unfortunately dismissive analysis of my comment? How may prove to u my authenticity as a human? Want to run me through a captcha??? Like seriously mateeeee!!!

@@thetemperamentalecnomist1261 wow ur not a bot, but you comment like one!

​@@fastair8546 haha!! :D

Exactly how US aggression should have been addressed when they illegally invaded Iraq.

@@PrimericanIdolnot everything has to be about the US, this certainly isn’t

​@@TheTfrules YES. IT. IS. They ARE NATO. They must mind their own business. I hope Trump wins.

@@PrimericanIdolmight makes right

​@@TheTfrules It definitely does.

Yeah, but the President is the commander in chief. If the actual armed forces get delayed or sent to non-useful locations, the treaty is just a piece of paper.

explain, Kremlin-bot

​​@MihaiRUdeRO As a Russian, I've no idea what he means by this but, I'd guess if you look at any of these politicians in west right now, the people hate them as they are corrupt WEF puppets who have no care for the people. I'd not trust macron to wash my car let alone run a country.

And if china invades Taiwan, so what, should NATO join the fight against china? Cause Taiwan aren't part of NATO, so if china attacks Taiwan, only nation that will do anything is the US. But the US will cry to NATO and ask for help, because the US are pussies that cant wage war alone

There is no British Commonwealth, it's not 1950 anymore.

It's not the destination, it's the journey. The lead up to the tipping point is just as important as the tipping point. This comparison is like if your highschool world history class basically said "yeah, people didn't like colonial powers drawing arbitrary lines, and then WW1 happened" or "yeah, cuz WW1 happened, WW2 happened". Which sadly is a real possibility, but at least admit your education system failed you.

@@theBestElliephant DAFUQ poetic buuuuuuuusheeet u talkin bout B R U H ???

@@omniinvestments7128 Literally? Most wars can be easily summarized, that doesn't mean the actions of the people in charge of the lead up can be similarly reduced.

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