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Watch the BBC first on iPlayer 👉 bbc.in/iPlayer-Home Fiery investors Sara Davies, Touker Suleyman, Deborah Meaden, Tej Lalvani and Peter Jones return to the infamous hot seats as a fresh batch of nervous entrepreneurs strive to seal a life-changing deal.
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@vibesbot6690 4 года назад

Sara Davies is such a great replacement for Jenny, she actually makes deals to people!!

4 года назад

Jenny made deals and offers. Quite a bit actually. Get off the bandwagon.

@harishsubramanian1241 4 года назад

3 offers out of a 100 entrepreneurs is not what I'd call "Quite a Bit".

4 года назад

@@harishsubramanian1241 Where did you pull that from?

@paulenedinning5166 4 года назад

@@harishsubramanian1241 I prefer Sara , Jenny is a bit of a .cold 🐟 🤔🤭🤭😳

@harishsubramanian1241 4 года назад

From wikipedia : Jenny Campbell built up a reputation of not making an investment in any business on the show, despite eventually investing in hemp skincare producer Carun UK, truck advertising firm Driven Media and also investing in energy switching service Look After My Bills. Where did you pull your argument from? Hopefully not from where the sun don't shine?

@aworldofpureimagination914 4 года назад

Sara Davies makes such a change from Jenny Campbell, not rude and puts a much better atmosphere in the den. Glad they accepted her

@ludwigwittgenduck3282 4 года назад

lol can tell you're a geordie

@BobbyTMF 4 года назад

She’s almost the complete opposite of Jenny it’s great. She’s so passionate and is there to invest.

@tafadzwatenga 3 года назад

@@ludwigwittgenduck3282 ,

@securoserv1405 3 года назад

She's greedy

@christopher7804 2 года назад

@@ludwigwittgenduck3282 how can you tell

@Totally2d 4 года назад

Am I the only one who goes "YES!!!" when you stumble onto an episode that has Sara Davies in it?

@adam-yk6yd 4 года назад

I wish there was a filter for just her appearances

@joker8bp745 3 года назад

@@adam-yk6yd there is Search 'sara davies, dragon's den' there you go...

@therealm00theoriginal27 3 года назад

imo yes you are

@joker8bp745 3 года назад

@@therealm00theoriginal27 probably him and a few more. Just a few. Yeah she's good, welĺ spoken, comes off as a genuinely good person but definitely not someone so amazing and unique to go "Yessss" like this guy.

@bijikedelai 3 года назад

If you watch the one from BBC channel you mostly get Sara Davies episodes. But if you watch it from Dragon's Den own channel you only get the old episodes.

@evarinze 4 года назад

Touker: "Just before you make up your mind, I will also include free office space in London as part of my offer". 😀😀😀

@stealthattack2209 4 года назад

Hahaha I was wondering why he did not bring that up.

@evarinze 4 года назад

@@stealthattack2209 he kind of did that.

@fnk101 4 года назад

Ha ha ha ha

@sizomahlangu5938 4 года назад

His a classic

@ThehomelanderDXB 4 года назад

Haha

@toddchilds653 4 года назад

I started my nursing career in aged care. I’ve seen the elderly trip and fall on furniture, and no nurse ever forgets the sound of an elderly person, or any person really, who’s skull hits the ground from a fall, **smack**, it’s gut wrenching. If I could invest in this product, I would, it will save lives in a number of ways, ie trip hazard, infection risks, etc. I wish you both all the best.

@Alex-o9z7y 4 года назад

You wish them all the best, but I guess, you are out...? Oh, sorry. I thought it's Jenny's speech. Have a great day :)

@russyraiwalui5851 4 года назад

Ughh😥😥

@davidthomas3648 4 года назад

@@Alex-o9z7y derp

@lepetitchat123 4 года назад

It's just like that stowaway table on the plane if you sit on the first row

@PhantomFilmAustralia 4 года назад

Everyone had become acquainted with the same gut wrenching sound when a policeman pushed over that unarmed elderly protestor and cracked his skull on the concrete pavement, causing his ears canals to bleed. You could hear the cringing sound of the skull cracking over the commotion from across the street. I admire anyone nobly working in any age care facility. If we don't die prematurely or don't have family support, our last years are reliant on their expertise and quality care.

@rhythmdroid 3 года назад

Touker: Would you like to use some of my office space as a care home?

@adam-yk6yd 4 года назад

Sara Davies is fantastic. Breath of fresh air for the show

@theovolz3073 4 года назад

The Dragons tell them how great and realistic their low valuation is, before proceeding to gouge them for 2.5x and 3.5x what they were offering.

@samoday2992 3 года назад

They know they have to basically build the business from the ground up . 75% of a business and have someone with links is a pretty good thing for basically a start up with zero sales .

@route573 4 года назад

I can’t believe 3 dragons thought it would not be a profitable business. Peter asked ( where do you go when you’ve sold to all the care homes ) since it’s so well made. Peter was only thinking of the UK market. I live in Japan and worked for a company that has HUGE care homes. The type of care homes that charge thousands per month to have your loved ones in. This product would be so welcomed here. Not only in the care homes, these people here would buy 2 sets per person, one for the care homes and one for their private homes for when their elderly loved ones came to visit.

@notrecyborg5492 2 года назад

I doubt that very much, why would you put this in your home just for the rare times your elderly ones come to visit, it's ugly and unappealing, also that doesn't happen in the UK, once you're in a care home you don't 'go to visit' anywhere.

@Stardust201208 4 года назад

To be honest, I would like to buy one for my home. They could make a lot of money in the U.S. the price needs to be adjusted though.

@jay-xj1om 4 года назад

I'd love a wooden one.

@harveyrng2706 4 года назад

jay eww

@michaelmillis9772 4 года назад

I agree, I think they could also make them for people who are living at home, both in the U.K. and internationally. The world has an ageing population and I think they do have quite a big potential market

@FriendlyNeighbourhoodSpidey 4 года назад

Of course, its a perfect product for obese americans to eat food all day without having to stand up from the sofa

@harveyrng2706 4 года назад

Friendly Neighbourhood Spidey 😂

@ronmiller9212 3 года назад

When Sara Davies speaks , you can feel it .

@fawazshahul7152 2 года назад

fat joke?

@sen4744 2 года назад

@@fawazshahul7152 perhaps a 3.5 on the richter scale

@TechGamesAU 4 года назад

“Sarah we’d....” AAAAAYYYY WELL DONE

@stookinthemiddle 4 года назад

"...we'd like to thank you for your offer but we've decided to take Touker up on his offer instead..." "AAAYYYYY-oh. okay."

@kuling12345 4 года назад

Where is the bidding WAR? They made 1 offer each, and the couple accepted the lowest equaty offer on the table. Another click bait and once again I fall for it

@MonacoSpeed 3 года назад

I live in Japan, and have worked with one of the leading age care companies in the country. Sometimes the dragons only look at their local markets. Here, care for the elderly is a HUGE business, since we have the oldest population on the planet.

@robinviegas6989 4 года назад

Sarah Davies is way too underrated. If I had the opportunity, would have picked her eyes closed

@mzaalam 3 года назад

I love how touker is always so happy for the other dragons when they ruthlessly undercut him!

@69Phuket 2 года назад

Toucker is a Wick...He enjoys the others. He's got enough Baloney in the Bank!

@hannuhell 3 года назад

Sarah Davies is the boss. She is awesome. Just great judgement and authority. What a pleasant replacement to Jenny.

@salmanlawal9289 4 года назад

10,000 for 10% this is by far the lowest money asked at the Den

@Site17 4 года назад

Yet they still lowball.

@mmastereve519 4 года назад

You discussed that, that isn't about the money, it's the contacts they were looking for ; 1 cheap manufacturer, 2 get it to every care home and plus. They even said they have extra money to Put in their business.

@Magda1497 4 года назад

Lmfaooo when Touker said 35% the camera zoomed in on the Mrs like a bollywood movie 😂😂 (edit - timestamp 7:10

@MrSuchasoorma 3 года назад

Hahahaha I can't unsee it hahahah

@TitusJudah 3 года назад

Lmfao good spot

@lizclegg7556 4 года назад

This isn't the first time Peter has complained about lack of built-in obsolescence in a product. It really says something about his values and what his businesses sell.

@scottstorchfan 4 года назад

Liz Clegg true words!

@jrbs 4 года назад

Yet he's probably wearing John Lobb shoes which last a lifetime!!!

@YuToobVideos 4 года назад

When in business, unfortunately, you are required to leave your morals, ethics, and compassion at home if you want to succeed in capitalism. #SadButTrue

@scottstorchfan 4 года назад

YuToobVids eh no you’re not.

@TomorrowWeLive 4 года назад

how's Nick doing? Havent heard from him in a while...

@SirCyril11 4 года назад

"With all due respect, we all have teams" go Sarah.

@sloppynyuszi 4 года назад

There was no bidding war. It was three dragons pulling a Jenny and were out, and two kinda crappy offers. 10k and 25% they values the business at 40k? Almost insulting.

@v4vendetta37 4 года назад

to be honest I dont think thats insulting the dragons are buying into a concept that hasn't even been fully proven on the market, theres no POs so far and no financial history showing that this item will sell the dragon is going to have to do a whole lot of work to get the cost down and to find a manufacturer to produce the product, bring it to market etc.

@bagelbaker411 4 года назад

The entrepreneurs knew what they were doing. They weren’t after a dragon’s money, but just their expertise and involvement.

@mack7963 4 года назад

I gaurantee if you were giving 10,000 of your own money to someone you didnt know for something that was a potential risk you wouldnt make a statement like that. Which explains why they are successful business people and youre commenting on youtube videos.

@reecegg 4 года назад

@@mack7963 when you have that much money and seen some of the other investments they've made then yes they would still be making that statement

@10wanderer 4 года назад

I WOULD OFFER THEM 80K FOR 30% I ain,t stealing !!

@cameronwallis7024 4 года назад

This invention looks exactly like the hideaway tables at each chair in the lecture theatres when I was at university over 12 years ago. Same mechanism

@MorriganSlayde 4 года назад

We lost so many laptops to that desk. It was the curse of Z411

@kuling12345 4 года назад

What about airplane hideaway tables, I don't see anything new about this

@ceeleegee825 4 года назад

@@kuling12345 That's exactly what I was thinking. Nothing really new about this

@ishmyboy 4 года назад

@@kuling12345 How is this even remotely similar to aircraft tables?

@murrmac 4 года назад

@@ishmyboy Alex Logan was thinking back to the time he used to fly with Charles Lindbergh ...

@vishalvasudev4668 4 года назад

If peter is not investing , Deborah won’t invest too, most of the times and they always like to partner.

@adz4681 3 года назад

Not really I’ve seen them invest even if the other did more than when both of them make offers🤦‍♂️

@fliptoptable 4 года назад

Great experience. It’s incredibly nerve wracking to pitch in front of those dragons. Sara is lovely and was a good choice. She is genuinely a caring person.

@surendra199999 2 года назад

I hope you guys achieved what you were looking for

@lino2495 4 года назад

i swear this has been used in university lecture halls for years

@Andrew-ud7nu 4 года назад

A very clever pitch. Low investment ask but in return gets priceless manufacturing and marketing expertise. Great foresight in taking that approach. One of the best pitches in terms of realism and restraint by owners and their respect for the abilities of the apex entrepreneurs in the Den.

@bobbywjch 2 года назад

Even the music turned epic when Sara started to speak

@biscuit4259 3 года назад

Tej always looks so unwell and knackered

@stevieblair 4 года назад

Haven't pressed play yet but guessing Jenny's out? Touker has a vacant office space?

@v1kku 4 года назад

Touker's acquired some office space in China.

@karenlawler373 4 года назад

Could this be attached to a regular modern chair and be used as a computer/tablet desk in small spaces like college dorms I wonder? The design could itself be used for other environments not just care homes.

@Dataprovider 4 года назад

Bravo, brilliant idea

@TomorrowWeLive 4 года назад

I'm sure desks like this have been around for ages-I've seen variations on them at my uni and workplace. Pretty crap tbh. If you don't have enough weight on the tray or lean on it wrong, it falls back to the side. I'm not in the UK though.

@katymorgan1691 4 года назад

I would have this in my home and I’m not in a “home” yet.

@helencoven 4 года назад

Same here!I would have one at my chair in the sitting room, one in the loo and maybe one next to my bed!🙂

@terrav6983 4 года назад

@@helencoven One in the loo??? Madness

@jacquesregan 4 года назад

One of the best yet. Fantastic stuff!

@energetic23 3 года назад

Tej never invest untill peter valuates....he isn't entrepreneur, he is inheriterance.

@absarahmed5695 2 года назад

If Sara was my chick I would die for her she has a beautiful heart and omgggg her smile she is so adorable I can’t 😭😭💜💜💜

@Haywood-Jablomie Год назад

She's really pretty

@daveh7235 4 года назад

These flip top gives me PTSD from writing exams in university.

@kuldeepkaushik3144 4 года назад

OMG thank you for putting that in words

@leesnedd5521 4 года назад

Must be hard in jenny's household, even though there's a lockdown, she keeps going out!

@perishingtardis 4 года назад

Uhh, my university has had chairs with a foldaway desk exactly like this for years!

@aconcernedcitizen6056 4 года назад

Why was your university not here pitching then?

@kapioskapiopoylos7338 4 года назад

@@aconcernedcitizen6056 because every university already has those, and they are already made by the tons in china so...

@saraljoshi1 4 года назад

Yes but these are sofa chairs. So old people can sit, while enjoying benefits of a pushable table.

@jamest3336 4 года назад

School / Uni classrooms and lecture halls have had these for years

@TonyBaXxX 4 года назад

Damn i like Sarah. So genuine and positive, bring a new light to the Den!

@PaulStewartAviation 4 года назад

Such a lovely couple!

@ludwigwittgenduck3282 4 года назад

lol you would say that though wouldnt you

@caitlinlindsay8418 3 года назад

What do you mean? They are a lovely couple! Such a weird comment....

@PaulStewartAviation 3 года назад

@@caitlinlindsay8418 it's pretty self explanatory. Use Google Translate if you're struggling.

4 года назад

Brilliant pitch, superb show of the materials, and a great decision in the end! I loved it!

@naidol777 Год назад

Debra is so sneaky. She knows she can't make money out of this but cannot be frank like Peter. So she squirms out of it by saying she doesn't know how to add value.

@VanlifewithAlan 4 года назад

Very refreshing on the value of the 'idea', I have not seen all DDs but I gone through quite a few on RU-vid and I think that is about the most realistic valuation I have seen. (There was one on Australian Shark Tank who offered a stake in his business for a crate of beer and another wanted AUD10.) I think I would have tried to do a deal with both of the dragons who showed an interest.

@firstlight7419 4 года назад

I would have bought this for my mother at home in a heart beat

@kalo2810 4 года назад

This already existed in the front row seats in airplane economy cabins lol

@tommyh.2545 3 года назад

Peter basically saying a good quality product is not worth selling

@aberzvideo2285 4 года назад

I can see there could be quite a few upgrade-add on they could sell for this amazing care equipment. For starter, a telescopic/foldable tube to hang IV bags. Or a wireless “bell” kit that help the patients notify the care givers when they need help. So many things you can slap on to the base of this equipment

@The_Candyman86 4 года назад

WAS WAITING FOR TOUCKER TO BRING UP HIS OFFICE SPACE IN LONDON lmAO. WHAT A GREAT LOVELY COUPLE. HOPE THEY GET A LOT OF SUCCESS.

@anthonyford2894 4 года назад

Does anyone else think that Peter Jones does not look well?

@RealityCheck6T9 4 года назад

yeah we all think that

@brettwilkinson9529 4 года назад

He shook hands with Boris only 10 days ago

@aconcernedcitizen6056 4 года назад

@@brettwilkinson9529 hilarious....

@sid3549 4 года назад

Yeh he's got snobofialia

@RajdeepSinghBhatia 4 года назад

Yeah he is suffering from ligma

@flick22601 4 года назад

We had seats in college with tables attached that folded down similar to that.

@kdmc40 3 года назад

Why should this be limited to care homes? My mother live at home until the day she dies and I would have bought one of these for her.

@jojokoko1569 4 года назад

The lower the evaluation, the more “sensible” lol

@gerardszwec1289 4 года назад

Booster la libido

@IRCW 2 года назад

Loved this episode great invention amazing people❤️

@overbuzzy 4 года назад

I love sara Davies. such a nice lady

@masonseymour8887 4 года назад

Nothing like this in the market? Aint this the same thing u used to sit on in exams and shit

@kapioskapiopoylos7338 4 года назад

yeah

@imluvinyourmum 4 года назад

I think this guy is selling the retro-fit version though. So he's specifically targeting old ppl who need an armchair fitted lol.

@caitlinlindsay8418 3 года назад

Loveliest couple on the den ☺️

@dunstondiaz 4 года назад

Debra won’t be beyond it for too long, she will need one of them tables soon enough 🤣🤣🤣

@lynnemorgan3808 3 года назад

This appears to be the same idea that I've used for years at training venues...a 'table' that swings up from the side of a chair. I'm not sure this a new idea.

@elsabegelderblom1354 4 года назад

I want one to eat dinner infront of TV

@yasarkarim4180 4 года назад

Jenny would have snaped this of theirs hands with a ` IM OUT ' lol

@YTGhostCensorshipCanSuckMe 4 года назад

nothing like this on the market... except on every single airline.

@vatsalparikh633 3 года назад

Touker has got the Least Amount of Offers Accepted By Entrepreneurs in the Den 😂

@CrossoXoHair 4 года назад

The guys went on from this to create Jenga Go, a new twist on a beloved past time.

@eddiediesel9035 4 месяца назад

Nice one Sara. Their reaction in the elevator was priceless.

@40avo 4 года назад

I will never understand the entrepreneurs who don’t try to negotiate You have absolutely nothing to lose by trying to negotiate a better deal

@jugular911 4 года назад

you could easily lose a dragon or they might see you unfavourably later on. definitely a lot to lose by asking for a better deal.

@SachaKDrums 4 года назад

True, I think some dragons high ball them just to make sure they’re not suckers and actually have negotiating skill, which can be as valuable as any idea/product.

@UniDocs_Mahapushpa_Cyavana 4 года назад

@J B Dragons nearly always go for a reasonable price, because they don't want the entrepreneur to back out or another investor to outdo them. That's capitalism.

@COLLEGEKID300 Год назад

Touker Suleyman has no poker face 🤣

@UTubeTulip 4 года назад

Touker 'Textiles Outsourcing Office-Space-in-London Doesn't-get-out-of-bed-for-2%' Suleyman

@dsfsdfsddf 3 года назад

I can't believe any of them where out. It's only 10k, nothing to them. Take a punt!

@SilvaaFabio 4 года назад

Goddamn Sara was actually such a breath of fresh air into the den.

@jonathanm2690 4 года назад

8:15 ohhh there it is the T.S offices

@realtalk6195 3 года назад

BBC, the description is wrong. It has the name of a different entrepreneur pitch, not this one.

@captainenaad9579 3 года назад

I think this is good for school canteen, children at home, office canteen etc..

@leeannelisha1378 4 года назад

wow! Amazing!!!!

@tobsstone 4 года назад

This is not only useful in care homes

@anneliseromine1161 4 года назад

Is the height of the table adjustable? What about patients who can't get out of bed to eat and need to stay in their hospital beds to eat?

@MrPavePaws 4 года назад

79 pounds to build them. What's the retail? How do they attach? Will homes buy them for every chair? Can they be made in different sizes to accommodate different chairs? *note how the end rests on the left arm just a wee bit? Prefer an extra two inches (●THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID●) for more security. If the user leans onto the table or falls forward onto it, prefer it be stabilized by the left arm. Shit, I'd buy one for my moms chair at home. And one for me...biscuits and tea while watching Tele would be nice.

@anthonydavies9850 4 года назад

No one really cares mate

@outdoorsyaaron 4 года назад

Isnt this how some airline stowaway trays work? Is it application in care home sector?

@peauntbutterxboy93 4 года назад

Aaron or a school table desk

@SlinkiestTortoise23 4 года назад

Sara’s due with all respect! Deborah hates that!

@mikewhite2230 4 года назад

Why did they not ask about patents? Surely this can be replicated by anyone

@fliptoptable 4 года назад

mike white there are patents on it. This was edited out of the final cut

@asiffarooqui6789 4 года назад

@@fliptoptable you guys were nothing short of fantastic. I sincerely wish you all the best in the future x

@fliptoptable 4 года назад

Asif Farooqui thank you so much.

@Phoneman635 3 года назад

I’m pretty sure Sara would have given the 10k for a 20% stake, either right away or scaling back to 20% after she’d had her money back if they’d simply asked her politely...I always cringe when I see equity given away so easily and without a fight like that 🙄

@davidmellish3295 3 года назад

Yeah but don't forget the business hasn't even started trading yet so she is only investing in an idea. Also if she makes it happen and gets the price of the manufacturing right down then she's wrll worth her shares

@RelatedAddict 4 года назад

Should’ve tried to get both to go in together

@James-miller 4 года назад

Why did no one point out that the massive metal lump on top will do a lot more damage to a resident than something that is moved when not in use

@fliptoptable 4 года назад

We use this in our care home. The metal top is rounded and very smooth. Hasn’t hurt anyone. It’s quite safe. Actually the other tables are quite dangerous simply because they can’t be put away and clients trip over them.

@Michelle-pc6gp 4 года назад

HELLO Peter - wear and tear, in 3 years many will need replacing 🙄 and it’s not just care homes. Both sets of my grandparents would want one of these - each (4). My mum would too. Peter is being too narrow minded

@beezito 3 года назад

Really nice design. Would honestly buy myself xD. Also love that these guys are so caring, never know when something like this can happen to you so its reassuring to see people like this who actually care for people in need

@TheCrenshaw1991 4 года назад

"I have already made an offer this season so I'm out" - Jenny

@P14YCR 3 года назад

Sara Davis is a real peoples person.. "Sara If your reading this, i would like to buy you a drink".

@shazimmohdzin2001 3 года назад

It's clear that the manufacturing cost was not an actual issue in their pricing...

@James-mo6us 4 года назад

How was that in any way an ‘emotional bidding war’? Great click bait, BBC

@kev_balls 3 года назад

Dragon: I'm out. Dragon: I'm out. Dragon: I'm out. Narrator: 3 Dragons are out.... Viewer: I KNOW, I JUST WATCHED IT HAPPEN!

@kevin20809 4 года назад

Shout out from Sri Lanka 😊

@KenyattaBarton 4 года назад

Imagine something like this for the car

@yashtrivedi1862 3 года назад

Peter is straightforward and right dragon

@socat9311 3 года назад

The wife is full of excitement

@user-kn9ik5eu4q 4 года назад

Peter Jones exited only to save his dignity as he knew he had no chance against the other dragons.

@Vampurp 4 года назад

Thats a god damn school desk

@mfsoon1501 4 года назад

you could ask for £5000 for 50% of the company and they'd still ask for 75% lol. It literally doesnt matter what you ask for they will get another 20-30% out of you

@c.e.7589 2 года назад

Was funny to see Deb going to try it first :)))))

@jessebella9322 2 года назад

I dunno if my granddad made one for my nan but she had one just like this, and that was 30 years ago. Im sure I saw these around back then, but she most certainly had one, I remember it well because I liked using it when she wasnt in her chair and pretending I needed it lol. I saw these often though elsewhere too, im sure of it.