Emperor Maximilian's visit to Flanders (La Corona Partida) 

If Maria de Burgundy had never died, do you think that philip would have been different as a person? as education and thoughts as the enemies of the holy Roman empire and Burgundy.

Surely. Being a ruler from such a young age usually twists people's personalities and rarely makes them learn humility and respect. Also, with Mary alive till Philip's adult years, there would have never been a regency conflict between Maximilian and the nobles who put young Philip on the lead in the end

The more I read about Margaret, the more I really regret the fact that fate didn't side with her to be the queen of Spain. If John didn't die quickly, they could have been great monarch.

The relation between a king and His son, the king-in-waiting is never easy.

@@nguyenanhtuan1196 Not always. King Ferdinand and Queen Isabella adored Prince John.

He isn't. He's just concerned about his Empire and his children's heritage, like all rulers in that age.

@@clararodriguezvalero9080 im pretty sure he did care. He had mary of burgundy and joanna probably reminded her of him

@@ASTERv9797 I believe he cared about Juana. He had both political and personal dimensions, and when it came to his family, they tended to mix. But he did care. He admired people who were beautiful or intellectual, and she was both . Thay also had shared expeirences. He was once imprisoned by Bruges and if his father Frederick III had allowed it like Ferdinand, they would give him the "crazy" label too. They could not kill him (he was the emperor's son, their natural lord's father, and the hero of Guinegate too), they could not brand him a criminal, so that was the only way. Max said he could not forget that kind of treatment so he did not want to come back, but this time he would for the sake of Philipp and Juana. He told diplomats that she was not crazy, just depressive and things would get better (he had heavy depression too). He tried to help her present herself as a credible queen. He told Philipp that husband and wife must be one and the same, if one wanted succcess as a ruler. He could not do anything once she was in Castille though. Certainly he still loved his own son more. And even though Juana brought a huge dowry too, one could not replace Mary of Burgundy's importance to him. You can see that in the ways they were presented in artworks he commissioned/orchestrated too.

​@@clararodriguezvalero9080 many rulers did care about their children. The affectionate relationship between Maximilian abd Margaret is well-documented. Please don't spread generilizations as fact about specific cases when you don't know the specifics.

@@RM-uk1sd I wasn’t spreading historical facts, I was only giving my interpretation of the movie character.

Sacrificed? Not really. She was really unfit to rule and knew Philip will use her.

@@di3486 lame excuse! After Philip died, Juana always had a chance to recover and move on, which Ferdinand denied her of such a thing. Philip was no longer around to use or manipulate her, so what was his excuse then? even if he couldn't let Juana to rule Castile and his kingdom, still he didn't have to do such a thing to her, she wouldn't have been the first monarch that's busy with other things outside of her kingdom while there's a regent, for some time until she gains power to. so why did Ferdinand need to send his own daughter in eternity of hell? Maria Eleanora, queen of Sweden was also obsessed with her husband and kept his corpse near herself for two years. eventually they managed to remove the corpse and burry him and locked her up until she recovers, which she did and then was freed. and those people were not even Maria Eleanora's family! while Juana's supposedly loved flesh and blood couldn't show such a mercy! how horrible

In the prequel, you can see the love for her die as her issues and outbursts affected her mother's health. In real life, it was probably more about real-politik.

he looks like a true emperor

His real surname is "Crowned", believe it or not.

Yeah but I think his acts are also influenced by political reasons more than by personal ones.

@@Lily1127channel Despite that, he is still human and a father, and he's shocked by Joanna's condition and poor treatment by Philip.

Ferdinand loved his daugther but, he was fully worried of her weakness, her spirit was very very weak to husband a trator to Castille, Ferdinand couldn't stand Phillip to be king of Castille rulling his daughter. Had Juana be As Strong and Determinated as Isabel, phillip would have never knew to manipulate and treated her as he did. Juana needed to have a Teacher as Carrillo was the teacher of Isabel.

@@jorgecarrillo2 But Ferdinand didn't lock up Joanna and rule instead of her because of Philip, because at that time Philip was already dead

Juana was the daughter of all the children of Isabel and Fernando who had healthy and strong children and Felipe was also very strong. Without Juana and Felipe, Carlos V and Felipe II would not have been born

Felipe era conocido por tratar bien al servicio y no tener problema alguno de entablar conversaciones con plebeyos a diferencia de la nobleza de la época. Ambicioso sí, pero eso de cruel es un poquito hiperbólico, Juana estaba como un cencerro, lo suyo era obsesión no amor. Las personas posesivas y celosas como ella destruyen sus matrimonios y con Felipe no fue diferente, a mayor la obsesión de Juana, mayor el desafecto de Felipe.

I think this intervention of Maximilian's is fictional.

@@Lily1127channel Thanks.

Well Mary's wealth also helped Maximilian to achieve what he achieved 😀 That's the only reason why he married her, for her status and wealth. Although love did show up between them quickly. Max was an even bigger womanizer than Philip, with lots and lots of mistresses and bastards.

@@Lily1127channel and also Maximilian's second wife Bianca Maria Sforza's rich dowry of 400,000 ducats certainly helped ;-)

Yeah, even though Maximilian disliked her personally, her money was welcome of course.

@Arcadius2207 - in my opinion, Maximilian left a disastrous legacy to Charles with whom the latter had to struggle all his life. Firstly, Maximilian lost the Duchy of Milan, which was in a sort of vassalage to the Empire, by not supporting swiftly and properly the Duke Ludovico Sforza il Moro when Louis XII attacked him. Secondly, when Maximilian planned to travel to Rome for his coronation as Emperor, he decided “hey, instead of crossing through Trentino which is part of my territories, why not cross the borders of the Republic of Venice and get their lands? What can ever those gondoliers do to me?” Sure enough Maximilian suffered the most humiliating defeat by the hands of the Venetians, losing part of his lands in Italy to them and until he died he never managed to go to Rome anymore, so technically he was never crowned Emperor and that meant that Charles had to use every resource he had to outsmart Francis in 1519 to become Emperor of the HRI, leading to the lifelong feud between the two monarchs. Thirdly, Maximilian engaged again against Venice in a disastrous 8-year-war: after a successful initial coalition with France, Spain, the Pope, Mantua, Ferrara and Hungary (The League of Cambrai) to destroy the Republic, against all odds Venice managed to win by putting their enemies one against each other, so at a certain point Maximilian was in war against Ferdinand himself. This war had been so long and at a certain stage so pointless but economically damaging that the first thing Charles did as King of Castile and Aragon after Ferdinand’s death was to negotiate the peace with Francis, against his grandfather’s advice -the Peace of Noyon in 1516. So yeah, to his grandson Maximilian left him nothing but pains in the neck.

@@Lily1127channel isn't it ever? XD

la corona partida no es una serie, es una película. Transcurre desde la muerte de Isabel la Católica hasta la muerte de Fernando el Católico (1504-1516) para continuar con otra serie Carlos Rey emperador. Por tanto la película La corona partida es el punto de unión entre dos series: Isabel y Carlos Rey Emperador.

Si pones La corona partida completa en el buscador de RU-vid te aparece. 🙃

It is a movie called La Corona Partida.

I don't think so. They didn't even know each other that much, Joanna was always in Flanders (when not in Spain) and Maximilian usually spent time somewhere in his empire, he rarely went to Flanders after he had to give up the regency to adolescent Philip. Btw, I had the feeling that Maximilian's caring here has more political reasons than personal or emotional ones.

Maximilian was too poor to make frequent travels to Flanders. Besides he had a multitude of other things to direct his attention to.

Obvio si eran parientes xd

It is not a tv series episode, it is a movie called 'La Corona Partida'

Well, it depends 😀 I have recently been to Belgium, it was dry and sunny like this for all 7 days I spent there. So, sunny may not be the most likely scenario there, but it is not like it's impossible 😀

@@Lily1127channel we lived in Antwerp for one and half years almost 10 years ago because of my dads job. I heard it’s becoming drier and sunnier these days but I remember months after months of gloomy dark sky especially in winter time. There are few months of okay sun but all in all very depressing. I knew of some folks from US having seasonal depression.

@@Chris-hp9be Yeah that's why I'm saying it depends 😀You can have it occassionally, but it is more likely that it will rain. Antwerp is one of the worst places ib that regard, according to my Belgian friend. But a sunny scene like this is not something that's completely impossible, like palm trees in Iceland or something like that.

@@Lily1127channel no I understand what you mean. But its a bit misleading, its like showing Mexico covered with snow because a small part of Mexico snows for a few week per year.

​@@Lily1127channelthere are plenty of sunny days in Belgium.

Neither did gladiators and Ancient Romans speak English 😄

@@Lily1127channel Lol right? They speak English in most historical shows/movies lol

@@verde629 In American/British movies the actors speak in English, and in a Spanish movie like this they speak Spanish.

@@Lily1127channel I’m just saying I personally don’t like it either way. We need more shows/movies where they actually speak the native language but people are too lazy to read subtitles