Empires of the Undergrowth- Ants Tierlist 

The thing is even with taking the pervasive into account, they are not as good for both 4.x levels(no one in the ics uses them for any 4.x stuff, the vig buff is really good and it gets refreshed), they are best in freeplay but I didn’t take freeplay into account. Are you talking about big headed ants vs BHA SS here? Also BHA have 40% evasion for some stupid reason. Also in the desc of the vid I said I would move black ants up, because yes they are good with the right formicarium upgrades making them very good mini tanks.

@🦂 PσιʂσɳσυʂPσƚαƚσ 🦂 it’s not bad for that purpose, useful for bridgeless etc, and pretty decent in freeplay(holding out against sieges)

Little black ants are overpowered but anything that aoe or ranged like formica rufa can easily take out little black ants but anything else that isnt larger numbers then them will die.

tbh super major leaf cutter ants ARE THE WORST ANTS THEY CAN DIE TO 6 FIRE ANTS EVEN THO THEY LOOK LIKE A TITAN

⁠@@adamkhordaleduh it’s a 6v1😂 240>150 food

@@gamechameleon2436 have you seen leafcutter ants irl bud? They can litteraly decapitate a trapjaw ant

@@adamkhordale ok? 6 fire ants vs 1 ant and there strong

That’s a very good matchup for army ants majors, huge whip spiders are kind of underpowered rn, and deal good AOE damage, and deal most of their damage at a range

Actually if you are talking about the formicarium upgrade, the mortars get more extra damage per hit from it than rapids to balance this out

This is why I typically do randomized caverns in freeplay runs, prevents you getting shafted by bad rng

@@meepswag35 and then suddenly the closest seed pocket is filled with adult rove beatles. It happened to me

@@meepswag35 I just randomize the caverns and turn everything to zero. lets you build however you want at the cost of playing like leaf cutters and everything being acquired outside. Dangerous but hey you have dirt cheap army ant minors.

Thank you! What did you disagree with if I might ask?

@@meepswag35 For me personally Mortar wood ants are god tier, I love them to bits, especially when you have tons. Also i think putting Taunt above Stun doesn't make a ton of sense to me since one is meant for ants and another is meant for large creatures i'd expect they'd be rank the same. Lastly Media ants not being deserving of strong when Slave makers are is also something im not really on board with. This is of course with total respect but that's just my POV. Thanks for asking btw.

@@Misto_deVito6009 mortar ants are too situational imo. When they work nothing tops them, but otherwise they are inferior in every way to rapid fires. Taunt is usually a lot more useful than stun, since big enemies prove themselves a problem a lot more than smaller enemies and ants. And something I neglected to mention is taunts work really well with media as media actually deal pretty good damage and majors help keep the pressure off the media. The last part was hard for me to go understand. But army ant media are actually strong when at high levels and are cheap. Slavemakers are frankly ridiculous at level 3 and are arguably S tier, but are pretty bad at level 2 and garbage at level 1.

@@meepswag35 Oh i meant leaf cutter media being under slave maker my bad. I guess i never saw Taunts or rapid fires at their full potential. People ive watched used them either lose a lot or wish they'd pick the other option. Ill have to test them out sometime.

@@Misto_deVito6009 mediae are not great for their cost, and really only shine with majors backing them up

The problem with mortars I forgor to mention is that they have less DPS than rapid fires, along with their other issues, and the way AOE works in the game makes it that enemies farther away from the mortars don’t take the full damage of being hit head on, making them less effective than you think. Also rapids level 3 slow actually slows attack speed as well, so it’s more useful

Bruh I literally put them in S tier, also they are very expensive to get going, and scale slower than other ant species, so they are hard to use in every scenario

Mortars are good but they have issues, they have less DPS than rapid fire, can miss quite often. And require the level 3 to do the AOE damage.

Bro it’s got less attack than workers and is inferior to Lba in every way despite costing the same.

I would consider moving trapjaws down, but slavemakers don’t go up. They are super expensive to get to level 3, and that’s the only level they are good at

@@meepswag35 agree with ur point

They have an execute which only works on small enemies, and a ram attack that knock backs and stuns enemies

@@meepswag35 oh ok

What do you disagree about them?

@@meepswag35 mortar ants are my fav i know there health is garbage but with the poison there good like good good and slave maker ants... there just tanks(bonus i thought melee wood ants were stronger than workers):)

@@Redantted910 the problem with mortars is that rapids outclass them, rapids rarely miss, and have higher DPS, the only way mortars is better is when they are at level 3 and they can do splash damage. Slavemakers are awful at level 1, below average at level 2, and God tier at level 3, the problem is they are such a large investment to get that level 3.

@@meepswag35 oh cool thanks i was doing a other ant type thing with my colony so i try out the mortar and leafcutter stun and pervasive for challenge 4 and rapid and leafcutter taunt and uhhhhh i forgot the other one🤡

Wasn’t out at the time of recording.

@@meepswag35 oh but what would ypu rank them now ?

@@GuiGeek_91 they only appear in one level, idk what I would rank them, however the only reason you would ever get them is for their abilities

​@@meepswag35yeah maybe but also because it's the biggest ant in the game i would love to see the adventure colony in freeplay.

​​@@meepswag35also just learned thanks to the wiki but it's stats are op ! It does splash damage on EVERY HIT it has 3200 health and more so that's a good reason to build it.

morrtars are good, but are simple outclassed by rapidfires, mortars have a chance of missing, and have less DPS than rapids

The confuse isn’t permanent however, and also confuse doesn’t work on larger enemies, which helps keep it in check