Emporia Smart Home Energy Monitor, hands down worth every pennny! 

Am I the only one that thought Jason was going to jab that screwdriver right into the hot wire?

Let's keep rapping that flat blade across that wire :D Hammer + screwdriver = win

You can combine wires through one current clamp, however, if they are different phases they will cancel each other out because the phases are 180* from each other. To resolve that, you can run one of the phases "backwards" through the current clamp. If they are on the same phase then it will work fine.

15:05 kW (kilowatt) is a measure of power, it is a rate = 1 kJ/s (kilojoule/second) [1W = 1J/s]. kWh (kilowatt hour) is a measure of energy, if something draws 1kW of power for 1 hour, it used 1kWh of energy.

Good video, thanks! I’ve been considering installing an Emporia at some point.

Easy way to tell if they're on the same phase, put a multimeter on the output of two breakers. If there's no or negligible voltage - same phase.

Thank you Sir. What a great and informative video.

Wow. I'm interested in getting an electricity monitor, but I'm not sure that my electrical box is big enough to fit all those additional wires that the Emporia setup would add. Hmm, maybe I'll go with the Sense energy monitor and hope the ML based detection works well enough for me.

It's a single split phase, not two phases.

I'm loving this video, very very very informative and interesting. I would love if you could take out the Emporia after all that work and try the Sense Energy Monitor or maybe you can just place the Sense in the sub panel.

You use more power in a week than I do in a month.

4:45 you just about tested a circuit breaker and ruined a screw driver LOL

This is great info, thanks.

Just got goosebumps seeing you reach inside the breaker box w/o gloves ... too late now for you to be a cool halloween decoration ...

Videos with a wayward cat in it always get a thumbs up 👍

Anybody else expected fireworks when this dude hit a black wire with a screwdriver few times?

I got Emporia because of the cost, but for long term I would go with Brultech GEM (Green Eye Monitoring). I don't care for the "cloud" that Emporia requires, even if it's a US company. I would rather my data stay in my house. I do like Emporia and they have been great to work with, but I really hate the cloud requirement.

So, bit coin mining uses obscene amounts of power. I'm glad to see you are doing solar to partially compensate for this. I really hope all the bit coin miners are thinking about the CO2 emissions they are creating and what they need to do to be net zero. We can't be rich if the planet is uninhabitable.

Im an electrician and we normaly use energy/power data loggers to measere the total energy consumption of a building. The emporia energy meter your showing is actualy a more simplefied version of these energy data loggers. What your calling sensors are actually CT'S ( current transformers ). And normally to measure the total energy use we would place our CT'S only on the 2 phases or 3 phases entering into the main circuit breaker. So you dont need to use al 16 CT'S. You could just use the 3 big ones and you will be able to measure your total energy consumption.

My first thought when seeing you purchased a Smart Home Energy Monitor, I remember that you built a dual Xeon plex server with over 100gigs of memory.

You can choose different units of measurement in the Emporia app, including amps. Just click on the burger in the upper left, and there’s a heading for it.

In my house I have two distribution panels, the application and the system allow me to install two monitors simultaneously?

The minute you said "server room", I knew you were going to be burning a lot of juice. In general, unless you are doing heavy-duty computation, you are better off with things like laptops, Raspberry PI, or a maybe a NAS device if you need networked storage. I just installed Vue myself - I still have around 400W unaccounted for that I would like to sort of get a handle on, and I have some mislabeled circuits that I need to verify (including one 240V "mystery circuit" that so far hasn't drawn any power). Right now mine is still a rats nest - my project for later is to start to zip-tie the white cords up into bundles to try and neaten as much as possible before I put the cover back on. But if the "mystery circuit" is no longer connected to anything, I might move that CT to some other circuit. In my case, we already had solar installed - the Vue does a good job of accounting for the generation from solar. The orientation of the CT for the solar connection is weird however - pay really close attention, and it might be reverse of how your other CTs are installed.

What is the maximum Amperes allowed for measure before getting its wires melted ?

I average ~4KWH per day and have 10KWH of batteries. You are going to need a !@#$ Ton of batteries if you intend to run your load!

I think I'll just wait until I do a solar install, and if they need a Critical Load panel I'll just replace the whole box with a Span panel.

How to make your electrical box a mess for $100.

Can this show your power in amps as well or instead of kilowatts?

Emporia also has started rolling out a BETA web portal so you don't always have to use the app.

You can buy a second one, not hook it up to ther main circuit (dont' use the 200a CTs) and you can add the second one under the first in the app. Also, look at their outets. I don't use them as smart outlets, but I use it to narrow down what devices in a room are using the most.

Do you have a‘follow up’ video, on say six-months later, showing usage w/without solar supplement?

the american power system is so much more complicated than our dutch system but nevertheless fun stuff to watch! thanks Jason! (for not killing yourself) xD

I need to get this because FPL came out to check my meter, said it was fine, but in 2 weeks I've supposedly used 2700kwh and my electric bill is $600 a month

Hey Jason, did you make this video as you were doing the wire running video to the other room for the server? I swear I saw the hookups in that video too... Fast forward one month 😆 🤣 😂 Answered my own question.

This is not a two-phase system. This is a single phase power source. It has 2 leads that are each 120VAC. A single-pole circuit breaker uses 120VAC, a double-pole circuit breaker uses 240VAC. Again, not a two phase system, it's a single phase, 240VAC electrical system..

I really want one of those units tho!

Jason Watt's up, my 8KW system went live on Nov 1st and wow, Soo much information and I'm only monitoring HVAC, Stove, W/H, Dryer. I do also have a miner and unRaid server, much smaller than your setup though. Bigger house, and "current"-ly, see what I did, no battery storage.

Great review, I dont know if you own a ev, that company also makes a ev charger that can work along with that energy monitor. So say you have all of you servers sucking all of that power,along with ac units or other high drawing appliances. If you are reaching the max load of your panel and the device detects it it will automatically lower the power from the ev charger. The wires look like a mess but having the same brand charger with the same app I am stuck using the same brands. So what I am asking is do you think it is reliable worth the money. I can get a nice discount if you buy them in a package. Thanks for you help.

I've been debating between this emporia and sense. Did you look into sense? It seems like alot of people like that because of the "unlimited" devices. But was wondering your thoughts.

11:40 Ahhh now I understand. I'm like wtf kind of computers you running there guy? "oh yeah, I happen to be mining." HAHAHA Well there ya go! Did you think that was free? HAHAHA Still... loved the video and now I want one of these. Thanks for the great video.

on the main cables in from the meter, I think that the current sensors should have the cable coming out the same way.

the way you pointed the main wire with your bare hand while its still running scare the crap out of me

Does he give you notifications when your refrigerator turns off? So you don’t lose your food.

Does the app let you enter a $/kwh amount so it can tell you how much the electric is costing you real time or by hour, day, week, month, etc?

Does this device have an api? I think it is cool and provides very useful information. A use case I can think of: detects when the washer or drier stop running, have Alexa make an announcement so we know it is complete Really enjoyed the video. I’m on the fence for buying this, but ,earning towards it a lot more now. I’m afraid what my server rack is drawing…

Your phases are not to different breakers but to right or left side it your distribution board

As an electrician, this hurts me on so many levels. Not that im saying you did a bad job, you did what you could but code rules in Canada are being broken with this. Cool though and id love for this to become a thing but I think the product could use improvement. But please hire someone who knows what they are doing in a panel. Dangerous shit.

You didn’t hook up to ‘different phases’ - ur home is actually ‘split single phase’ - secondary xfmr has a tap on each end, with a center tap as ur neutral- at ur panel, you have the two hot legs from the end taps and the neutral- potential across entire secondary side of xfmr is 220v and potential across either end of secondary tap to neutral (which is bonded to grnd) is half of that or 110v

2-300 watts will be the AC on idle.

We pretty much all have an electricity and gas usage monitor in the UK but the implementation is terrible, it’s all a closed a proprietary standard which was rushed out and the usefulness of the data depends completely on whether the energy company can be bothered to make it accessible. Mine seems to have random days of usage missing.

it seems tempting if not against code to put the box outside and run those exess long cables out ofthe box to the emporia box all out side o fthe breaker

This is a good system but has a serious flaw. If you've got grid AND solar supply with a hybrid inverter, Emporia will double count the grid supply. Emporia told me they couldn't fix this, even though I told them they only need to add in one subtraction calculation. Inverter output - Grid input = Solar contribution. So because of this flaw it's useless in this situation.

Does the App require Google Play and does it ask to access anything pn the cell phone? Or is there any way to see the monitor off the phone?

Great video, but you made me nervous with your fingers near the hot mains. Folks should use insulated gloves or risk serious injury or death.

I’m always curious why people try to convert to AH?

3.8KWh.. 🤔 what's your electric bill there?

1.5MW/hrs isnt too bad, that for me is the beginning/end of summer, during the hottest months of summer i usually am pulling 2MW/hrs (most of it goes to A/C cooling, although my server room makes the A/C work harder, but in fall/winter it reduces heating costs lol. (server rack runs around 600-700watts of continuous power usage)

CableGore !

Won't all the pla behind him soak up water from the atmosphere

I feel like Sense would have been a better way of doing it. It doesn't require all these adapters, just the two power clamps and after a while, it can adapt and detect what kinds of devices are drawing power and how much. It's actually really crazy how it works.

Yeah That is a lot of power we use around 4200kWh a year.., with your numbers you will hit that in almost two months..

I see a Cdn flag...you in Canada? I am near Toronto...:) I have watched you for years...

I'm honestly unhappy with the Vue Gen 2's app / website. You need their cloud connection, and it can only graph one circuit at a time. That is just incredibly limited. I'm all ears if anyone knows of a home energy monitor with dedicated clamps (aka NOT SENSE) that has a better UI that Emporia.

like that little Canadian flag though😜 , what's the story behind it ?

Doesn’t your utility give you usage by hour online? That’s how I know what we use at all times and even what the cars use when charging.

They have a bigger one that you can get that it has even more

The BIG problem with Emporia is its poor accuracy, lack of ability of summing up energy consumption in 3 phase system in the correct way, no PF castor measureing.

Your electric bill must be $400 range per month. Mine is 200$ per 1000kw

Not sure why watching you poke around in a live electric panel makes me nervous. If it goes bad there will not be a video, at least, probably not one posted by you. Thanks for bringing us along.

You failed to run a dishwasher or any heating or cooling which could easily double or triple that number.

Hey you from 🇨🇦?😅😁

yeah explain more about the flag near the panel!!

This video is almost like you trolling those commenters.

It’s NOT two phases! Please stop saying that. Split phase (Single phase 240V - 120V per leg)

yea another cloud based IOT device. UGH.... got a monitor that can talk to a syslog so I can tie it into my Elastistack?

no don't double tap on breakers that is'nt safe or to code

combining wires, assuming they are the same phase. will only be getting readings from your highest draw line of the two.

Jesus fuckin H Christ, 1500kW/Month, that's what I use in a year :D :D :D

You use 3X the power I use...

I've always wondered why people are so afraid of getting shocked or electrocuted. I've shocked my self many times and I kind of find it fun and not painful. I was 6 the first time plugging in my radio and squeezed the prongs together to get into the socket. I got a good jolt that scared the hell out of me but laughed my ass off after I figured out what happen

"Energy Use in KW?" Energy is not measure in KW. It is measured in KWh. What a joke.

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Could you imagine an electrician coming to work on his panel… wtf