@King_orange12 Goku has no creation powers , he has destructive powers.i don't know what I don't understand but I do know that you guys just misunderstood the empty voids powers ,he was just like dende his powers can just control the dimensions not creation.
I mean Vegeta base is enough since he litteraly freaking destroyed a space where time and espace are distorted from reality. Just by this feat alone he's litteraly beyond a dude that travels out of the universe just to see every possibilities lmao
Goku can die from a laser. Seeing all possibilities, outside the universe itself was a huge advantage. You cannot be touched, you can cherry pick who to kill, and solo them all.
@@Pentagon-sy9ew He lowered his ki at the lowest that's why he got shot by the laser beam. An example of how goku can tank something if he increase his ki ? Hakai, and he was in base.
@@Pentagon-sy9ew It is a huge adventage I didn't say the opposite. I said just by this feat he can defeat him, those possibilities are appearing after some seconds, they're not infinity which means he has high knowledge but is not omniscient, that's a space manipulation nothing that can ''destroy'' or affect something
@@Me-pl2ng it's not a space, he left the space or reality itself. He's outside the casualty of the universe where cause and effect doesn't apply. Which means in a universe where Goku can just overpower things to make it work, in Empty Void technique those logics would be negated as he's not bound by the casualty of the universe anymore. "This is outside the casualty of the universe". Which means he's outside of any universe. It is omniscient. Where he can't be touched, heard, seen, smelt but and completely isolated to the reality but with his special Jutsu he can intervene with reality.
@@DeepSlumber-m9v Empty Void negs, literally Empty Can warp and destroy Multivers and DBS has only 12 Universe and OPM has Infinite Multiverse currently..
@Lego_beerus104 nah you can't just put db verse above tiering, db verse is complex multiverse with finite number of universe, with 3D-5D timeline, according to vs battle zeno is low complex multiverse, stop high balling the verse, if we want to reach hyperverse level, db verse have to make the finite number of infinite universe, that correspondenly have 12D timeline in each universe, zeno is not even tranceded reality. even low outer level, the cosmology have to contain infinite number of infinite universe.
@@Quietskye because he have no feat for it? He only scale to multi solar off possibly scaling to garou That literally everything he have 💀 Him going outside the causality using his ability have nothing to do with his scale or transcendance Neither he can do anything to those worlds Not even god scale to it
@@Feitan__ yeah as if the dbz idiots don't insert themselves whenever Saitama's power gets mentioned, gtfo clowns , the dbz fanbase is legit the most insecure Mfers in the anime community
Apply that shit to your own fandom yall mistranslated that manga panel as soon as it came out. And then the first to person you went after in this is Goku and the fans.
@@devinport.Absolute fucking hypocrite, Goku got dragged into the mix as soon as EV was revealed to see the multiverse. So shut that shit up and apply that to your own fucking self.
Cell enters the chat: Cell cn Slice empty in half but u guys have to glaze his hax to an extent where its not possible cuz hes not even that powerfull his hax can be capped at high galaxy or galaxy cluster lvl
Saiyans can survive in space, Goku and Vegeta are Saiyans, he’d still die, evidence to this, Bardock fighting Frieza in space, Goku fighting Beerus in space, UE Vegeta would just Hakai Empty Void into nonexistence
@@TheSidekickking Dude, I don't know if you saw Dragon Ball, but Goku could teleport wherever he wants. to namek, to the world of bills, with the galactic patrol, to any other world and if we want to take it further it could literally teleport to fucking hell or paradise By the way, it has already been said that hell and the other world transcend the mortal universe.
Empty Void’s best feat is going outside the casualty of the universe and folding dimensions the size of other universes. So only 4-D or uni+ level. Hes not touching Super
He didnt fold the dimensions The actual translation say its "folded dimensions into a bubble" this was done without him doing anything Void only used a slash through the bubble but he iddnt fold anything 3d at best not even galaxy level
Yh and i Can scal Saitama boundless easly you guys are delusional empty void has more feats than anyone in midball exept Zeno but void IS still in base form so he will get more feats than zeno@@evocativ
@@unyoutuberf788 Current Dbs base goku > dbz goku > kid buu who can destroy the afterlife has no concept of time that is outerveral right there empty void is solar system level and dbz goku kid buu dbs goku and vegeta and other chars in dbs are outerveral or higher even krillin from dbz is enough
If empty void is multiversal and if he beats the entire DBS then i am pretty sure he one taps saitama and cosmic garou as well. Using normal logic,because saitama and cosmic garou aren't even getting past universal level.
Scaling goku : Dr slump sees dragon quest as video game that they have A R>F trancendence over Dragon quest is a verse that have have realms that are outside The concept of time space and form making it outerversal and making dr slump 1 layer into outerversal Dr slump has a infinite loop of outerversal R>F transcendences making dr slump beyond tiering Dr slump is apart of dragon balls earth making dragon ball character existence beyond tiering And u guys are lucky bcz i didn't even count koyama statements
keep dreming bro i was going talk with you but when i see you give vegata hax i know your braindead or you didnt opm manga EV was capable of grabbing the fabric of reality itself to hide away from blast. The reason i said reality is because in the space that EV grabbed there were many stars, galaxies and possibly black holes too. These stars, galaxies and black holes heavily influence the flow of space and time. So EV grabbing everything and anything in that space would mean he grabbed the fabric of reality itself. The definition of reality in philosophy is, "The sum or aggregate of everything that is real in the universe". This definition perfectly aligns with my argument which would further solidify the fact that EV grabbed the fabric of reality itself. EV is capable of viewing infinite universes with infinite possibilities and realities as mere BUBBLES. Each parallel world holds infinite possibilities and EV saw all the infinitely branching infinite universes with infinite possibilities and realities as mere bubbles. In this panel it is clearly said that each universe holds different possibilities which means a single event can cause the divergent creation of another's timeline which in the end results in the creation of infinite timelines in a single universe since it is said that each universe has different possibilities which would mean that a single change in event can cause a new timeline to be born and EV saw all of this as bubbles. This feat alone is capable of putting EV at complex multiversal level or 7D - 9D at a mid ball since in dimensional scaling, complex multiverse is a 7D - 9D spatial structure. Low ball he would be High multiversal+ or 5D+ level. If we high ball EV then he MIGHT even reach hyperversal level or 9D - 11D but i would not go that far since it would be a huge wank. And we still have to wait for more updates from murata and one about the cosmology of OPM verse. EV has his dimensional blade which is an attack from a higher dimensional plane of existence which ignores distance, energy and size. These are the three fundamental concepts of physics. By ignoring distance, every slash from dimensional blade would travel at INFINITE SPEED since ignoring distance means you can travel finite or infinite distance within 0 second. By ignoring energy means dimensional blade can completely nullify energy based attacks and barriers and directly attack the opponent. By ignoring size means dimensional blade can attack things at any and every size possible. The size may also be the size of dimensions or as small as sub atomic particles. EV exists outside of the causality of the universe. This means EV has type 5 acausality aka causality transcendence. This means EV is invulnerable against cause and effect. This can mean that EV is not affected by the flow of space, time and reality and he can manipulate mathematics, physics, logic, calamity, space, time and many other concepts since EV transcending causality means he is not affect by anything therefore he can manipulate any thing which normal people can't do. Even chatGPT says that transcending causality makes you invincible against anything and everything and you can manipulate almost every single concept (If you don't believe it then you can simply search it up on chatGPT). This statement of EV being outside of causality is further solidified by the fact that EV grabbed reality itself which i explained previously. This feat of EV gives him an unfair advantage against DBS verse since any of their abilities wouldn't be able to hurt EV since he is outside of causality. No DBS character has shown feats or statements which indicates that they have causality transcendence. These are the few abilities of EV: Energy manipulation Energy projection Space and time manipulation Reality wrapping Body manipulation Fear manipulation Illusion inducement Type 5 acausality Mathematics manipulation Physics manipulation Dimensional travel Portal creation These are only the few abilities of EV since he is a relatively new character and we will se more about him in the near future. Plus the fact that this is most probably BASE EV not cosmic EV. Base EV is already scalable to complex multiversal level so imagine how powerful cosmic EV would be. Cosmic form makes a character exponentially powerful like when garou was at planetary level and right after receiving cosmic powers he became Universal+ level (The reason i said cosmic garou is Universal+ level is because garou can copy the flow of energy of the universe which also means he can copy the big bang which would theoretically put cosmic garou at Universal+ level). So imagine how damn OP EV would be if he uses his cosmic form dragon ball kids are sweating hard rn Also again if you try to use visual argument that does not matter Yogiri also destroyed Heavenly records which are universes but does not look like a universe even though it has statements implying it is a universe. he was also calling those dimensions as bubble like structures with matches with the theory on how multiverse physically works. First of all, learn the definitions of 5 dimensions a valid : 5D or 5-Dimension is a dimension where the Time as we humans experience is a physical dimension. There are 4 dimensions of Space (lenght + height + width + time) and 1 Dimension of HypertimeA 5D Being or someone with 5D Powers would be able to manipulate Time as a physical dimension Blast confirmed that dimensional blade is higher dimension He's able to go to high dimension and view all parallel universes Branch out with each possibility infinitely bubbling forth like foam "This is outside the casuality of the universe" "In the dimensions folded like bubbles" casuality is intertwined with space and time Which is 4D And Empty Void can literally travel outside the casuality of the universe, which is 5D feat In OPM manga When Flash and Sonic attack Empty Void, like the power that Blast had he went to another universe Actually (outside the casuality of the universe) In this universe, which is outside the effect of the entire universe, every universe has infinite branches of spheres, and every possible sphere is different from his own universe. He can see the multiverses with different futures and he can define and do whatever he wants according to his wishes. And time does stop for others(Or it can be said that Empty void can ignore time) He can attack any universe, that is, it doesn't matter where you are, Empty void attack will hit you. which is a deadly attack, which means that this attack can cut anything, be it time, space, or mass. (his slashesignores range,size, speed ) Empty Void could access all the parallel universes, which is considered a Multiverse feat. 2 First of all, Genos in the manga mentions the theory of multiverses (parallel universes) and according to the recent Empty Void feats, it is literally confirmed by the manga cause Empty Void could access all parallel universes Which is multiverse feat There is no time outside the casuality of the universe and it is empty and can ignore reality and time Infinite possibilities: This process of branching leads to an infinite number of universes, each representing a different possible outcome of every quantum event that has ever occurred.These parallel universes exist simultaneously, but we can only observe and experience one of them In manga It describes concepts related to infinite possibilities, branching paths, and parallel worlds. Empty Void is surrounded by bubbles, each representing a different possible world. These bubbles symbolize the concept of parallel universes, where each universe is the result of different possible events or outcomes. " Parallel Worlds Branch Out With Each Possibility Infinitely Bubbling Forth Like Foam " Similar..... "Parallel worlds that continue to arise infinitely like bubbles of possibilities splitting." Or, "The number of possibilities, like bubbles, infinitely branching out and generating parallel worlds, where infinite possibilities continue to emerge." Or, in a more poetic sense: "Infinite possibilities unfold like bubbles, branching out into parallel worlds, where endless opportunities continue to emerge." Most Goku fans say that those spheres are considered planets, which is a wrong way of thinking, cause if you pay attention to the design of Murata's panel in Chapter 201, you will see black holes, stars, and galaxies in each of the spheres.
blus empty void caps at universal+ to low multiversal base dbs goku is multiversal to low complex multiversal lol empty void is 4d dbs goku is 5d to 6d goku alone negs
@lucionjones8685 but his base in the new Manga is universal plus to low multiversal smh he has another form to show so after that, that should put him at multiversal to low complex multiversal by your logic 😳.
@@TheSidekickking lol bro you can't scale To reach low universal you need to atleast be able to create or destroy 2 universe To reach multiversal you need to atleast create or destroy 1000 universe Empty void is know universal snice he can affect and cut trough a universe In his transformation we don't know hiw much stronger it makes him so you can't just give him multiversal snice the gap between multiversal and low multiversal is large When did I ever said goku forms make him reach low complex multiversal Lol The fact you think I said goku by Transforming is low complex multiversal is you can't scale and you don't know what you talking about you just been basied Goku is able to reach low complex because they are dimension Inside the marcosum that trascend the universe Making it a dimension above the universe lol And by simply getting a transformation to get stronger won't help you trascend a dimension So Even if Empty void gets infinite times stronger he will still be high multiversal or infinite 4d he will never reach 5d To reach 5d you need to trascend a 4d dimension And goku has already scale to smt that trascend a 4d dimension Making him atleast 5d So you can cope Goku>Empty void lol
@@lucionjones8685 how did goku died again in the first superman vs goku fight again? by destroying the planet and goku died in space right? how did goku win against moro magic again? oh vegeta helped him bc without vegeta new ability goku ki would have drain out leaving him weak and would have got killed...my point is even with hight ki level bc goku doesn't use fist to end a fight, it shows that good broken abilities can over take goku ki. so void new ability is too broken for goku bc he can attack from outside the universe and destroy the planet leaving goku out in space to die. goku cant never lay a finger on void, this not hit we're talking about lmaoo.
Strength: Grand Priest Combat speed: Grand Priest Travel speed: Infinite Zamasu (he's omnipresent) Intelligence: Grand Priest again Battle IQ: Goku (based on feats, probably not true) Knowledge: Zuno (not Zeno), he's omniscient Hax: Zeno Abilities: Goku (probably not true, but he's shown the most) Experience: Grand Priest Potential: Perfect Cell Destructive potential: Zeno Attack potency: Zeno Skills: idk, almost everyone outskills Void
@@faithfulblase6731dimension slash won't do shit if Goku tanked an attacks that can destroy the universe and dimensions what will a slash from another dimension do to him use logic
@@randomguy9002and how boros is enough for yamcha keep your cope to yourself lil bro imao ☠️ Monster garou 3rd form >half of dbs verse Blast >>db Cosmology 😂!!
@@randomguy9002 I just wanna keep in mind if your same kid who thinks db is outer or some thing through guidebooks lol 🤣 just want to confirm that then we can start!!
@@faithfulblase6731 when you realize that each universe has three infinite different parts too it with realms in those universes beyond space and time. And you realize that dragon ball characters have broke through the concept of reality just by screaming. Or have been proven 6D because they see dragon quest as a video game. Or the fact that Zeno literally does the same thing as empty void by existing in a plane where he can observe all the infinite in size universes
Yea with the way opm is going power scaling wise dbs is gonna be fodderised in the near future. For now even with that feat empty void isn't enough for actual strong dbs characters
@@uchihaitachi5637 pretty sure hajun can't be 5d taikyoku completely transcends 5 other things that completely transcends the concept of space and time so he can't be 5d he's boundless
but , en el manga de dragón ball súper , se muestra una gran cantidad de cajas , cada caja tiene anillos , cada anillo es un línea temporal , ya que uno de los anillos desapareció después que Zeno sama destruyera su verso . sip la cosmología de dragón ball es complex multiversal, y Zeno sama nunca uso su 1% .
Bro the ability of void is to go out side his dimention a d be able to attack out side from it. He is not evenin the universal level because he can't destroy a single universe.
El Gran Ramses Torrenegro no pudo con una Vendedora de pezcado, Y Ginebra Nicolotti no pudo contra una Taquera. Si hay una tercera novela con el titulo de "El Amor",. El villano o villana contra quien no podrá.? una panadera, pastelera, una mesera, una limpiadora etc...?
His katana didnt destroy anything stop making shit up 😂 Neither there was a multiverse tf 💀 He only launched dimensional slash into the bubble from higher dimension Its only allow the slash to travel inside the universe
Wdym Even for a dragon ball hater like me Its too obvious yamacha alone stomp 💀 Most opm "5d" arguments are blatant ignorance arguments using fake translations or misinterpretations Neither void or garou get past multi solar
Man I'm sick of those opm fans glazing at maximum level. When a new chapter release they immidiately go to dbs to see if they became stronger. Pathetic
He is nowhere near close to solo dbs bro opm fans has to understand stand if goku and Vegeta can scale to low multiverse level then gods and angles and grand priest is just sooo ahead i like to say angles can be hyperversel and gp will be outerversel so stay mad opm fans
