End of an era for this London pie and mash shop - BBC London 

Forget the pie shops, the native people have been run out.

@@fr_reynolds5002 Lol

@Ginger Ginger I'm familiar with the quote. They may actually be the chosen people.

All capitalist systems require an element of protectionism. The French with their dirigiste history are far more forthcoming in that regard.

You have extremists bedding down everywhere and the native white europeans slowly being outnumbered.. Your government(s) have betrayed you.

How many times have u been told " go back to your own country " probably about 200 times I'm guessing

Chala 1 your people are hypocrites

@@unknownfrvr6767 Everyone has been killing everyone. The British where just better at it. Same people who learn and change quicker in they're societies more so then most if not any others..

@@unknownfrvr6767 How can you say he's tasting his own medacine when he did none of what your reffering to?

@@unknownfrvr6767 What nationality hasn't, you brainless twit! You'd best be grateful!

Thanks to the BBC and the Left.

It will collapse then. London hasn't even had a proper mayor now in years.

Sad that a shop selling frozen industrial pies and dehydrated mash go out of business ?

@@alan6 'cause the owners said it is hand made you believe them, like restaurateurs don't lie about the provenance of their food lol. The pies look soggy and undercooked like a used condom lol

TheAvenger62 mate there is literally A documentary on this EXACT place, where they make the pies infront of you. They wouldn’t spend thousands of pounds on this equipment and know the skills just to film a segment. Also I’ve been to this establishment and seen it myself. Use your brain Pal...

Joel Smith next thing theyll take make my nan

Well, not directly. Businesses are going to keep getting more expensive to manage, especially due to Brexit.

@@nabilmiah4428 don't talk crap it's down to the local landlords putting up rents and the complete removal of the English working class from the area

@@pastorflaps6819 You literally just reinforced my point about making them more expensive to manage.

Er, Who's "They" exactly?

lon don yes the butchers don't sell pigs trover ham hock chitlens or trip I grew up with this grub as a kid

sarah jones oh dear, have you typed without engaging your brain?

sarah jones read the original comment please, race wasn’t mentioned in it, now unless you are a pig then I wouldn’t take offence to it. Think you’ll finds you are clearly making the association between the comment of Cultural Destruction and Race, how very Racist of your

Nobody wants to eat this shitty old people food anyway.

Cos England is a post industrial service sector economy. No working class = no working class traditions. Most Brits are what u call petit bourgeois not proletarian par se. Be happy cos that means England is a first world country no doubt. If you still got folks doin manual labor, u r second world at best.

Merrill George Landlords often have more than 1 property and in London especially the landlords will more than likely be living a lot better off than most people. Plus if a land lord with a near Central London property is struggling they can sell up and make a cheque.

Could be owned by the council you know...

Money,oil and gold is their god

More important than maintaining culture!

@@merrillgeorge1838 Good, that is hoe capatilism works. Clearly there is not enough demand to keep these shops alive, so if they cannot survive in the free market in the businesses, they will die out, and the invisble hand shall do its work. They are but dead weight on the economy.

Liberals and marxists, who are in bed with big business despite their claims otherwise, support these big businesses crushing local(especially/only White run) businesses. You need to do more to fight them even if it takes physical intimidation.

@@123Jim91 Both parties are in bed with big business, republicans are marginally more in bed with them.

​@@RandomVidsforthoughtthere ain't no Republicans in London ya fool

Manze's opened a restaurant in Hoddesdon which was the shop from Walthamstow and it'd thriving. Has been for last 6 to 8 years all the real londoners moved out. I'm a black cabby and London over the last 15 years has changed so much it's just not the same feels like a left wing communist city, central London has a protest everyday the roads are all closed for low traffic neighbourhoods. It's a horrible place to live 15 to 20 years ago it still had that traditional London feel specially places like chapel market. I was at my mates in homerton yesterday it's basically a gender neutral village now 😂.

MrRideutah truth

business rates sent the costs too high, probably not lack of demand

“We look upon the closed door with regret , but we fail to see the ones which open”

thank you for telling the truth ! most of them blame everything on other people but never on them selfs

You tend to take things for granted. It's human.

It’s not corporate businesses taking over it’s stupid overpriced vegan and coffee shops being opened by hipsters who aren’t even from the city!

Can you explain why it's a bad thing?

@@smashb3766 Those hipsters have to compete just like everyone. The real problem are who those hipsters vote for. They vote Left. And Leftism, by definition, means excessive taxation and regulations. It's not a business friendly ideology. Just the opposite.

​@@taserrrIt is a bad thing for people who are not either globalists or communists. It is a bad thing for men. As you will never be a real man, you being a numale, you would not get it tbh. Without traditions among other things a society becomes weak, boys and girls like you surrender easily to invaders.

​@@taserrrI mean if you are a Muslim you might think ending old businesses the White locals and elderly enjoy is a good thing. So, my guess is, you are anti-White and/or a numale, a lesser or omega male.

Mass migration of Islam. Funny how a Christian island can be destroyed by Islam in just a five year span. Gone forever are the things we don’t keep as sacred.

bob bushill. The rates go up because to taxes, taxes in England are high to pay for welfare and the nhs. This is happening because of socialism , not capitalism

increased rates comes from increased property value which comes from increased cash flow which comes from people with enough money to leverage way the rates are charged and no doubt the land lord was hoping they would leave. keep blaming poor people all you want this is capitalism 101

Bob I totally agree working class culture is going if not already gone how sad such a shame

The government of the last 8 years is Socialist ? Stop talking out your arse .

Most foreigners can probably write better English than you , with your sad delusional pseudonym.

Many new shops are all opening, it's a shame to see the old buildings go as some of them are beautiful and rich with history but if you come to London there are still plenty of Pie Mash shops and new ones opening all the time. It's truly delicious food

What a weird dream

In New Zealand We eat a lot of Mince Beef Meat Pies. New Zealanders love Meat Pies come to New Zealand and You will get Beef Meat Mince Pie

I'm indonesian too, living in London. I'm planning to try F cooke next month Update: I did try it last week. It was okay, but I got a photo with the owner! Fantastic visit! 😎

Hurry up. England is being destroyed. It’s lovely food.

O good.

You need to go back mate

@@user-ux6dt8pk4k lol how's that Brexit working out for you? The uneducated are usually the most racist and vile

Consequences of imperialism. The colonizers getting colonized

@@totoroid The whole point of colonising them countries was to help anyway, a multi-ethnic empire was always the goal.

Lol you live in a fantasy it was never to help the colonized it was to benefit the colonizer

Master Bob, you are a JERK!

But it's working class Londoners keep the place patronised..!not the Italians

@Félim McAuley not with Southern lreland

@Félim McAuley Not for long.

the boss And in bristol be such a hit .

the boss do you wanna say pie and mash anymore you mongol

I know right

Anglo Commando I know and it’s a shame

wildebest yes it’s not just UK all over the world is now wrath of Chinese manufacturing power but some idiots believe it happens just for immigration you see in Australia has hard immigration policies but still it facing hard time against Chinese money based immigration

@@bparisfreedomranger9166 oh well that’s what the english australians get for taking over australia

tradition is everything. 300 years.thats special

oh really? how is that possible

What, another pie and mash shop?

It’s the rent then, same as in Canada, overvalued land in all the Empire.

Tariq Mahmood i feel the loss! I’m Dutch born Vietnamese and there are many stores in my old town where I used to live in that are turning into hipster restaurants. I don’t feel that Dutch spirit in my town anymore

It's not really very high calorie. The mash is more or less just potato. No cream , butter or milk, the pies are smallish by modern standards. These are 19th century portions. Londoners have been eating pie and mash for a couple of hundred years, and for most of that time-frame were not generally overweight at all. Actually, Londoners are relatively skinny even today compared with the rest of the country.

Martin Cleary Thanks for the reply

@@MrBlaxjax I think the main selling point was that it was served quick and it was relatively cheap, even for the working class.

That makes sense.....

piper.spirit it’s a shame... but I’d say they are all into couscous now.. and food served on a slate lol 😆

@@sarahbrennan1342 Nothing ever lasts forever.

piper.spirit I know... it lasted a good while though... I remember the indoor market there... use to be brilliant ❤️

The recipes can still be kept, so it's not like people won't be able to make these dishes on their own.

It’s a market! There’s always cardboard and pieces of Fresh vegetables blowing about!

Kelly's is still open...

You’re close to the point but still not there

An invader shop

It's a real shame. I hope you like kebabs and vapes

@@HRHooChicken I'll take the kebab over this pile of slop with a side of bland pie; the lady said it herself. They should at least leave one pie and slop shop open for their british "cuisine" history

@@decimatedbody4122 My point was that American tourists are probably in for a surprise when they visit London because of the massive changes in demographics and culture over the past 50 years. But yes I'd rather eat a kebab than a pie too, but if you're a tourist you probably don't want a turkish kebab, just like you wouldn't want a steak and kidney pudding from Paris

@@HRHooChicken I doubt people would go to the UK for their food, but I'll wouldn't mind tasting their cuisine. I was just taking the piss out of the british since they don't really need a food culture to bring out their history and pride. If I was going to visit the Uk I'll rather go to their museums and landmarks, maybe into one of their famous pubs. Food not so much.

@@decimatedbody4122 I don't think you understand what our food is like - we obviously still have the 'classics' which I rarely eat because they're bland, like cottage pie, steak & kidney pudding, stews etc. People eat those at home because they're cheap, easy and we know how to make them because our parents made them. If you were to visit however, you'd find our restaurants have mostly modern dishes just like your own restaurants and they're very diverse. Even old pubs sell curries / burgers / ribs etc. It's so expensive and competitive out there that the food is mostly excellent now. I will however say our sweets / chocolates / breads and cream cakes are far better than yours (assuming you're american). Please try those lol

lmao 😂 😂😂😂😂😂

Im glad i came across this. I noticed a huge huge buy up of old properties for rennovations into new luxury housing. And i have never been to a city where i have seen so many apartment construction projects.

The entire British empire is going up with the USA and non British countries staying low, it’s a USA plot I’m sure

Feel sorry for the olders cause that’s their culture. But do you really see the new generation and young people eating pie and mash

@@ttam9205 yeah happly nothing beats good old grub London is being destroyed to be replaced by chains of food and coffee shops and glass faced buildings London is truly loosing its charm its quirks what made London London now sadly we're just turning into a yuppie boring playground where everything costs a fortune

American here, pie and mash is unheard of in my life and I now crave it *adds eating pie and mash to bucket list*

@@timmy00264 Letting in hordes of middle easterners, whom mostly being young men who want nothing more but to ravage English women and kill their countrymen in the name of their religion as also part of it.

@@WolffenBreon I can tell you right now it isn't middle easterners killing of these businesses

That’s wonderful news

F. Cooke

And straight to the shitter

Looks disgusting 🤢

​@m3gAnac0nda It tastes great, don't knock it till you try it.

Its called "capitalism" what are you, a commie?

It’s okay ull have Nigeria express and curry land

@@bansnabs5523That sounds like a good time

​@@bansnabs5523sounds far better tbh

​@@fn_flashy9101 I bet u would like a poo vindaloo....there have been more than a few documented cases of this happening...mmmmmmm diversity!

@@staggeringdeath8479 Enjoy your boiled cabbage 😂

I recall the one in Exmouth Market closing decades ago. Are saying another has opened there? I haven't been up there since 2019, so wouldn't know. Are eels on the menu?

Mate we've got it up north too. Our towns look a multicultural disaster. So many tea bags walking around like something out of Shaun of the dead.

What do you mean about cultural changes? They are moving because of expensive business rates

Exactly, Andrew. And anyway, what do the idiots want? Do we *force* people to eat pie and mash? Is this what the world has come to, that we should pass laws making people eat food they don't want to?

"show the tourist real London food" That would stop tourism lol

marji very good, myself personally if I go to an area I want the sample the traditional stuff not globalisation food. The robots are already here😂😂

Thats good lol

Ka-bomb shop*

I hope so!

@@permbee7129 Whites are minority.

@@permbee7129 now that's racism, I bet you would be up in arms if a white guy said east London is too brown and full of filthy halal.

wildebest what I was attempting to draw attention to is that some people have Stockholm syndrome for the past- the kind of people who say ‘everything was better in my day’, when ‘their day’ consisted of eating spam, De facto segregation and power outages. Now their’s nothing wrong with 80 year old Vera enjoying pie and mash because it reminds her of when she was 12. But when people say that old England is dying because a pie shop closes, what they’re really saying is that their insulated, isolated, predominantly white working class communities are changing. Would you really rather have overcooked pie and mash, or try the new shawarma place down the street? People see this change as a threat, that diversity and new cultures are dangerous. Old England was a country that ruled over a massive empire, and yet people are scared of the cultures they once exploited; and so still see beige pie and mash as superior to a Bangalore curry etc. I feel personally that what’s ‘threatened’ was never really that good in the beginning. to me ‘Old England’ ideology is plain toxic- Rose tinted glasses on steroids for people stuck in the past.

So?

Aslong as there's some to say "I think you'll find that's legal tender" all is good.

@@Matt19matt19 I'm not Spanish

We had to leave our Pub for the same reason the council wanted 52000 a year and yet our street 's are covered in liter because they say they don't have the money to employ enough street cleaners. So where is that money going ?

i remember my first pie

fpv scaff Erm... everyone?? The Pie n Mash shops basically pioneered chilli vinegar.

+pgI0897 It comes with liquor gravy you dont put vinegar on it...

eraldorh I can assure I do. Chilli vinegar and lots of it mucker. If you’re in a pie n mash shop and they don’t have a bottle of chilli vinegar on every bench, it ain’t a pie n mash shop.

I've got to agree with pgl0897, pie and mash with chilli vinegar is a classic

Neither do the brits

Vince Ramone I was in there in April 2018. It was open; however, they were sold out of jellied eels.

@@doctorsartorius Surely that can't be a bad thing?

Offend in evey way go away u numpty

@Offend in every way if the food was actually popular and the community actually liked it a tax rate increasing by less than 50% is not going to put a strong successful fast food place out of business if it's actually making money. You are aware that the 45% increase means that if you paid 1% of your income into your taxes that increases by 45% as in 45% of whatever you were paying. so now you be paying 1.45 % of your income. Or did you think it would make it go up to 46%. You can figure this out through a simple google search.

It's a pie and mash shop. In order to be considered a historical landmark I'd imagine you need more than just having been there for a really long time as a reason. it's not even like anything important ever happen there it's just a pie and mash shop and an old one that nobody who is an already collecting on their social security eats at so why on Earth would anyone want to put their tax dollars into a restaurant that isn't even serving the majority of people in the area.

What character no one was eating there aside from the elderly it was a dying business? you don't pour taxes into a place to make it a historical landmark just because it's old it actually needs to be important.

SirXavior Yes but not for the English i’m afraid.

The main problem is our councils are run by foreigners/Africans!! They want our heritage torn down it's happening to our old pubs and our Catholic churches are being rented out to Africans and even removing the statues of st. Mary ,this is sickening,it's the government's fault.

_No, powerful Arabs and other overseas investors._

Why should they? To create a barrier against new arrivals? That would probably be illegal...

Chilli vinegar is a common condiment in pie and mash shops, what are you on? Talking about something you know nothing about.