End of the Line: The Institute Confronts the Railroad - The Story of Fallout 4 Part 29 

Fallout logic: “You’re the only one who can lead us. But also you have to do what we say.”

Father’s indignant outrage by the Railroad’s “countless acts of violence” and then having the gall to criticize the Railroad for “the lengths they’ll go to achieve their objectives” is like calling the Enclave a “peacekeeping force.” 😂

I always thought it was funny they didn’t just track your courser relay chip and notice you spend an awful lot of time in the Old North Church

Now that's LITERALLY end of the line

Nate - They meant nothing to me. Never have. Shaun -What about deliverer and ballistic weave? Nate - . . .after that they meant nothing to me. I'm surprised PAM didn't predict this kind of thing especially after the Institute got control of the nuclear reactor.

I love how at 0:36 x6 pops in to frame and is like “hey I’ve got those reports fo- … why are y’all just posing like that?”

Honestly, I’m not sure why the Railroad didn’t realize that the Brotherhood made it inevitable that the Institute would react.

Ox has officially become Kellogg...

Father's argument against the Railroad is far more applicable to the Institute itself. The Railroad don't steal synths, since they have already escaped the Institute. And the Railroad has not killed any Institute humans, but the Institute has killed many humans: Railroad, abductees, and University Point for starters. I've only played the Institute once. And the final Railroad person I killed was my best friend Deacon, who I shot in the back while he was farming at Sanctuary. The only time in the game I felt really bad, not a grey moral decision, but a very dark one.

Taking out the Railroad first is tactically the decision. They’re weak when confronted directly and small in number. Taking out the weaker adds before the boss is a common and effective strategy, after all.

Ultimately, I understand the Institute's decision to go after the railroad first. The existence of the Railroad is disasterous because a) they have been the Institute's longest standing adversary, and b)the railroad knows how to dismantle and reverse engineer certain Institute technologies, which could be their undoing should it ever fall into the hands of the Brotherhood. Destroying them and all of their advancements and countermeasures makes sense, if only to keep those secrets and tech out of the hands of the BoS who would abosolutely capitalize on the info and begin producing said countermeasures en mass.

I found a mod Ox, that makes the Railroad a bit tougher if you choose to go the Institute Route. it MAKES THEM into Enclave remnants ;)

Funny how when the Railroad has the chance to attack the Institute they make a point of you activating the evacuation alarm in order to save as many people as possible.

Does anyone else notice how touchy father gets when you questioned him

I think the Institute should have given us an option to destroy the Railroad OR The Brotherhood instead of forcing us to do both. The Railroad on intel on the Institute and while unlikely given their differing stance on Gen 3 synths (Railroad see's them as just as human as, well humans. Brotherhood see's them ask technology gone to far and should be destroyed), if left with no other option it's not impossible the Railroad might try work something out with the Brotherhood, even if it's just a means to use the Brotherhood for the Railroad to give their own soldiers a in to the Institute. It's a slim chance, but one that can't be ruled out. They could deem it necessary to use the Brotherhood to get in, then have the Railroad have their soldiers scramble to get as many synths out as they humanly can before the Brotherhood blows the place up. It's a last resort for sure, but I can see Desdemona being willing to try it. I mean the chance to save some synths is better than not saving any synths at all. Meanwhile Elder Maxson might want to take advantage of Desdemona in a similar way for the Brotherhood own gain. With the Institute getting the reactor, that means Liberty Prime is no longer an option. The Railroad has already had a plant inside the Institute once before, and many more synths still want out. With no way to provide the necessary power to fuel Prime, the Railroad's ability to rally ally support from within the heart of the Institute itself is a asset that Elder Maxson would then become keen on using for his own gain. People think the Railroad and Brotherhood would never work together, and normally they won't. If either faction had any other way at all, they'd choose that option. But in times of desperation people tend to act how they normally wouldn't act, do things they normally wouldn't do, and this could mean one teaming up with their enemy to take down a even bigger enemy. But even in this end game desperation move, the Railroad can't take on the Institute without the Brotherhood, and the Brotherhood (with Prime not being a option) can't get into the Institute without the Railroad opening a door for them. So really, you only need to take out one or the other. There is really no reason Bethesda should of forced up to destroy both.

i got some big Revenge of the Sith vibes!! "I want you to go to the Jedi Temple, we will catch them off balance. Do what must be done Lord Vader; do not hesitate, show no mercy!"

After 6 long years, Oxhorn is still to this day uploading Fallout Content, and probably keeping the fallout community alive. I am very greatfull for Oxhorn's dedication and great humor.❤

Gonna be a bloody one it appears. RIP Railroad (at least for this scenario)...

I dont understand Ox reaction in the priority on the railroad. If you check, the railroad already had a informant inside helping the synths escape. Since they already had attacked the switchboard this means they were a real threat. It is obviously that when another cell emerges they would act fast to crush any possibility of a new issue. The only issue here that i see is that the railroad should know better by now to not centralize their leadership again.

yeah of all the weird bits of institute writing, this is one of them, like you could had easily have them posing a active threat with the Courser chip you gave them.

I always felt bad for railroad especially for deacon

"You know after talking to you, exploring this place, learning everything it has to offer the Institute is close to the think tank in terms of technology. I can't see myself working with the Railroad anymore....I'll do it" statement from a former courier

We've always felt that the Railroad was a bit underdeveloped as a faction Fallout 4, especially when compared to other factions like the Brotherhood of Steel or the NCR. It's a shame because their mission to help synths is really intriguing and has so much potential for deeper exploration. I'd love to see more of them in future games, maybe even with their own dedicated storyline or expansion. It would be fascinating to dive deeper into the Railroad's operations, their philosophies, and the moral dilemmas they face in their quest for synth liberation.

I still never understood why synths can't have autonomy in the Institute? Or at least once you become director, having that as an option and then having to influence others in various quests to your ideals versus the old ways. Could still then make allies with the railroad and Minutemen and do a big war at the Brotherhood. Bunch of regular faction members running in, artillery shoots down the airship as Brotherhood hold a line, a bunch of synth and you teleport inside their base to start fucking them up from behind, they activate Prime (unless you do certain things) then Institute does cool tech thing to destroy prime (if you do other thing then prime becomes friend). The end! I mean, there would be way more explanation, but yeah

For the institute, eliminating the railroad makes perfect sense as they are a faction that have repeatedly gotten away with stealing institute property. The institute almost destroyed the railroad at the switch board and whilst there are probably a few dozen other agents left in the commonwealth, killing their leaders basically cripples them faster than trying to take on a deathclaw with no armour lol. However, it makes no sense for the institute to attack the brotherhood because they are a much larger faction, arguably even larger than the institute. If they were to take the offensive approach and kill the soldiers in the commonwealth the institute would be exposing themselves. What's to stop the brothethood from sending an army 10 times bigger to the commonwealth to weed out the institute. True hiding underground definitely buys them some time but for how long? It just seems like a huge risk for such little reward

Thank you , Ox . I can not play the institute ,It go's agianst my moral code , and the Brotherhood is just a gang of bullys , so I really apreciate these uploads , Thank you . 🐺

So here's the thing. In the last episode, Father stated clearly that you are director now. So how amd why does he think he can give orders?

All these years, I've never been able to side w/the institute. All these years, destroying the institute and Shaun always bothered me-Time for 1 more PT, F'it-rolling w/the institute. Oh sh't, that's going to really complicate things at far harbor

I agree. Destroying the BOS makes little sense in the long run. Conversely, the BOS destroying the institute seems to go against their beliefs in the way that acquiring new tech could be beneficial to humanities future. Perhaps their views only apply to pre-war technology? Idk, I’m fairly new to the Fallout universe but think the BOS is pretty badass so in for some pain next week me thinks. Thanks again for continuing this series. Can’t bring myself to join the institute for the long haul so its interesting to see what happens. Cheers

I'm reasonably sure Father is speaking of the D.C chapter of the Brotherhood, when he talks about a possible retaliation.

Thanks for the great video. You are correct in that Railroad did not have to be eliminated, but they certainly needed to be disabled before fighting the Brotherhood. They can not destroy the Institute, but they can hinder or even ruin the next operation. That is not a risk the Institute can take.

Thanks!

Great Vid Ox! I was very excited for this series to come out when you announced it. Can't wait for the next video!

In every run I’ve ever done as soon as the ballistic weave is accessible I just huck in six frags and that usually gets the job done

For my most recent character, this was my "endgame mission" for the Institute.

I'm disappointed there's no way to initiate Glory's reset code.

When i did this quest i already killed the railroad so when it started it ended in 2 seconds

Honestly if i could make any choice in being Director of the Institute, I’d name Alan Binet my successor. He definitely gets the badge of “least-evil institute member” and I don’t think he was lying about caring about Synths because he doesn’t mention Eves passing if you choose to kill her, that can entirely be F4’s many minor narrative oversights. Alan Binet is still ultimately on the Institute side, as he sees the Surface as still a “sentence worse than death” but also thinks Synths have massive potential and using them as menial servants with no freedom stifles that.

I think wiping out the Railroad is less about getting rid of the 'threat' they pose, but rather symbolic to prove the allegiance of the Sole Survivor, especially if you used them first to get into the Institute. The board would always question your every decision if the Railroad were left alive and working, and they would be suspicious with good reason. Also the Railroad had it coming. I mean come on. If you know your top agent defected to the Institute then *move your freaking headquarters!* If you know your top agent's son they were looking for since thawing out is the Director of the Institute *maybe address it more and stop being tone-death to human emotion that might change their allegiance!* It feels like Desdimona was like "Hey, we got Deacon on the case, and he is a Romance option, that should be a sufficient safeguard against maternal/paternal instinct!"

Its nothing short of amazing the amount of depth this game has and so much so to the fact that even with the combined effort of the entire Fallout community, some answers still arent fully known amongst the broad spectrum of possibilities and open ended choices and paths that can be made in taken. That being said, these videos are absolutely outstanding for the amount of insight and content they offer, exploring the immense anount of story this game truly has to offer. Bethesda didnt fall short of pulling all the stops they could to make such a immersive experience, almost borderlining a situation versus just a video game for entertainment. Especially in the regard to how your interactions and choices greatly influence the way your quest is going to play out with both short and long term effects.

Sometimes I get to watch it at work sometimes work is to much and I watch it at home. Either way, Oxhorn is the best and I’ve been listening to him for years

Father is not very observant, but I guess the other plauthroughs, were we help RR into the Institute, are in a different universe, so I guess I can't blame him for thinking they could find their way in through the ruins of the CIT, for example.

I hope you are gonna make a ton of videos on starfield when that releases. i have been watching these fallout videos of yours since 2016, cant wait for more.

I would love to see Ox talk about the lore of FNV dust , the lore is sooo in depth and deep it almost feels like it was canon !!

Excited to see what is planned for the brotherhood of steel. I always side with brotherhood or minutemen so I’m interested in what the institute has in mind

I think the Institute and the Railroad have a pretty decent chance at a peaceful arrangement. As director you end the kidnapping and replacement of humans on the surface. Agree to let gen 3's that want to leave leave. Some gen 3's go and some stay. Would play out quite well I imagine. I hope some day AI finds it's way into games like these so you can make any decision you choose and the game reacts in a practical way to that. This quest could go any one of a thousand ways and to be fair most of them would be better for the players experience than the one option Todd gave us...

So there's no option to have a Courser or Gen 2 kill squad sent in your place? Heck couldn't they just bomb the Church with a few well placed mini-nukes? Like why does the player have to personally handle this?

I love the Videos. But the railroad are short sighted and kind of hypocrites. Railroad says "do what ever it takes to gain the institutes trust. say or do whatever it takes". you help the institute, come back to warn them. Then they turn on you. Plus i noticed something while watching the videos from you. I don't then the synth component is in their brain, I think it is their brain, which is why the institute says they aren't human or alive. That component is huge, look at it when tinker tom is hacking the coarser one. it's about 1/2 the size of a human brain at least.

A tactician, Father is not.

I want to help financially but the best I can do is watch the videos.

To be fair, the rail road are crazy

You know looking at the thumbnail I was going to make a joke about blood being red paint or something but that got me thinking about the painting the wall quest and I have to know can you use the blood can from pickmans gallery on the wall or in the mixing machine can anyone tell me

Yes this and every other faction quest line just comes to an "it's either A or B, no C or D options" ruins the roleplaying and forced modders to bring that back into the game.

Well, that seemed rather short...

You're our new leader. Ok now here's your order. Go alone into extreme danger and come back to recieve more orders. What do you mean you're just Kellogg 2.0??

October man is good to finally be able to change your message there I love your content and I'm just waiting to see what you have to say about Starfield enjoy your show I want it everyday that it popped up I even looked back on past videos to learn things thank you😮

U should think about giving us a clean fallout frontier playthrough ox along with some other mods like fallout Miami and such

The institute is the best hope for humanity and I would support my son I failed right thought those synths.

Father is just flat out not to be trusted. This whole “the institute is the future, and will better the commonwealth” doesn’t quite fly when he approves of having people literally killed and replaced with robots. Robots I might add, that are sentient, but their free will consistently annoys and causes the Institute headaches. To top it off, Father goes from “we need your help to move forward” to “kill them all”, pretty damn fast. It’s jarring.

A single Courser actually could have wiped out the Railroad. Coursers are basically Android John WickxBladexAgent-47s LMAO

No!!! Not Deacon!!!!!😢

I wish the sole survivor could just choose as the director to simply free the synths.

TIL you can ride the USS Constitution into the skyscraper. Okay, most people already knew that, but it was new to me.

Thanks modders that made alt ending mod where I can just occupy Institute and reform it. Because... ehh. I have 1112h in F4 but almost never finish main quest because of how it is made

Who was questioning the Sole Survivor's involvement with the Railroad? Father said he was sure I could guess whom it was.

Its weird that the Railroad cant exist without the Institute making Synths

The institute has gone madness

Man, I can't wait to see the mods AI generated voice acting will bring to the game. I hope they'll bring back some of the cut quests and add extra dialogue too.

A Lazer rifle? Really? I went in with a mini nuke launcher!

They should make a dlc called before the war so u can have a connection with shawn because its not like fallout 3 where u actually have a connection with ur father and the people around u

A 20 minute banger instead of the usual monologue hmmm

Surprised Father doesn't Issue you a Dozen Synth Transmitter Grenades so it'd turn into a Mass Battle like the Brotherhood Version of the Quest. It feels lame to be able to just silently kill everyone if a Courser could have done the same.

The freedom trail will continue 💪🏻

Are we not getting the video of destroying the Brotherhood this week?

This whole thing just further pushes 'Institute evil!' narrative.

I believe the Railroad is a threat to the institute. An ideological one. If the idea that synths are people then that undermines the whole goal of the institute with regards to synthetic humans. The railroads ideology can spread internally, something we've already seen begin to happen with Alex binet and cause the destruction of the institute the way Father and the directorate knows it. Even if the building and the technology remain.

I haven't done an institute run yet, so I haven't had that much interaction with Father, but is it just me or does his voice sound AI generated?

never go against the family

Cause it’s going to be very intense railroad will start it’s final departure

Good bye decon

Its so hard for me to play these games anymore, i barely got through the first 10 hours. I wanted to side with the brotherhood, after playing FO3.

It’s obvious father forgot he’s your son, regardless of rank within the institute he’s still your son.

Ox siding with the questionable and just outright lying to NPC is most interesting.

Pam did not attack me in my game either

@Oxhorn what happens if you use Deacons recall code before whipping out the railroad?

I’m gonna miss the into music when this faction is over lol

Pausing to say that you are underestimating the railroad because their clandestine hq was easy to beat. Thats not Surprising. It is under defended due to the railroad being short on manpower. Glory is the only heavy agent in the hq everyone else is a command Intel and tech specialist. You are right that the railroad could probably have never taken the fight to the institute but I would stress the commonwealth would never be firmly under the thumb of the institute of the railroad was their to be saboteurs

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see Deacon. So if Deacon lives is the railroad totally destroyed?

When you can't talk father out of his decision, pending what outcome you helped far harbor come to, it would have been a good opportunity to pay Dima a vist and replace father with a synth like Tectus & captain Avery. 💩 & Anyone that disagrees with you, like Maxson. Threaten him: "I'll kill you and make you a synth" 😆 🤔Now I think about it, kinda sounds like something YesMan would do.

It’s not the man, but the idea

He's really turned. Oxhorn's betrayed us. Ready Liberty Prime. Ad Victorium.

people like to say the institute is bad, but if you play all factions they all want to kill the institute and some of the other factions as well

I recall your institute character being female

I live in Lost Hills. I didn't konw Lost Hills was in this game. 😲😲😲😲😲😲

So, does nobody at Bethesda, watch star trek? Lieutenant Commander Data is an android with a learning computer. He was in court for refusing to let a scientist reverse engineer him. The judge ruled that Data has rights.

Imagine if the Underground Railroad, in order to smuggle African slaves to freedom in Canada, first lobotomized them and turned them Caucasian. And then in order to free all the slaves decided to burn all the plantations down killing all the slaves too… … this is FO4’s Railroad.

Hey I gotta ask with you going over the story again are you going to do an everything wrong with video for fallout 4 like you did fallout tactics, as I just replayed the game for the first time in 6 years, as I had a left over save I went back to, and the only way I found the story works, given how Egregious the brotherhood are, is that this isnt the brotherhood, its the outcasts who jacked a blimp and headed here. as none of their heel change makes sense, its been less than 10 years since fallout 3 where the brotherhood were kicking ass, and doing the right thing, and then suddenly they turn into thugs in suits in a heisnberg Mark II, like maybe in 40 years with continual wear and tear and things going wrong, but from what we saw they were doing well and gaining popularity in fallout 3 and the heel change almost like what conclusion you came to with fallout tactics seems to suggest that the bad ending to broken steel is the cannonical one, as why would they go so evil in such a short time span. to say nothing of Madison Lee, like she went from the capitol wasteland and didnt mention project purity or even attempt to do the same thing in boston at all, like all the institute cares about is is replacement robo butlers and control? how does that work, like what purpose do you get? are they ex enclave and what about the Gen 3 Synths, dont we see the first one in fallout 3 with the guard to rivet city yet it seems to be a brand new thing like theirs alot wrong that downright ruins the story and the lore of fallout 3 along with it, like where's our brotherhood as the outcasts to go after them and get things right again? as it just feels like alot of the story focuses in on very stupid heel changes that dont make sense nor fit the narrative or the flow of the story of fallout 3 that they seems to want to continue on with. hell honestly I half wonder if someone who's never done fallout before ghost wrote this story and didnt do their due diligence with how downright baffling it gets. as I did one playthrough, tried to do a second and gave up in disgust until I wanted to go back to look at one of the few unique weapons in the game which new vegas was chalked with yet here all they have is the Deliverer in the railroad quest, and its funny, even in that 6 year time span, my conclusion is still the same, what the hell happened that made our brotherhood go evil so quickly, and why

Yeah this is more proof that Father is a hardheaded psychopath(Same thing goes for Maxson). I just can’t slaughter the Railroad. I’m still not convinced that the institute is the “best hope for humanity” in the Fallout universe. What creeps me out is how calm Sean is about all this. It’s like listening to Anthony Hopkins lol 😂

Thanks for the inspiration to start my own channel. It's hot garbage now, but it is something. Thanks again from Panama city Beach, FL

Oxhorn: Yeah it makes sense to be rid of the Railroad. Also Oxhorn: Killing them all is way too far! Spendingg too much time around the BoS with all piousness 😂 The Institute can be good.... CAN BE. Its not tho, not with Shaun as its Dicta-er, "leader"