@@theonetheycallheadspace2899 "Her c3 is a big dmg buff" Around 15% for C3 (from C2), and literally 0% for the first hit with C4+C5+C6 combined. Would that be enough to oneshot? Not so sure.
Yes,She can one rotate him if shield are broken. C0 Raiden can do it (not literally Raiden but my fav C0 team with Raiden,Yae,Kazuha and Bennet can one rotate this boss)
Honestly i wouldnt, at a point the dmg bonus hits diminishing returns. ESPECIALLY in a team with c6 furina AND with kazuha. You just wouldn’t see that much of an increase. Her dmg bonus increase from her sig + set is awesome ofc, but the main reason she’s SO good is she’s a non-anemo unit that decreases resistance for your whole team’s elements. The biggest issue with vv is some rotations can be really tight with it if you want to swirl and apply in the right ways. Xilonen has more uptime AND takes less time to setup. Also, she decreases resistance for every element in the team, which is INSANE for team dmg.
@@renzartworks4968 Technically speaking, it's not even a valid "7 million HP test" regardless, because Res shred is incredibly effective against the boss. To put it in perspective a boss with 0 Hydro res but actually 2 million HP would take more time to kill for that Neuvillette team compared to a boss with 70% Hydro RES but only 1 million HP. You'd think that with 70 hydro Res, the boss would have 3+ Million effective HP, but no... that Neuv team has 70% Res shred so it effectively has only 1 million. Meanwhile, due to how the dmg calculation works for resistance under 0%, Neuvillette would only do 35% more dps to the one with 2 million HP. So by the time Neuv kills the 70% Res shred boss, the other one would still have around 600k hp left.
Ok um... But why call it "Without shield break" and then break the shield with more than half of those teams? Also oof, putting C0 Childe there with a far from optimal team is questionable imo. Of course he's gonna perform significantly worse than C6R1 hyper carries... Especially when you use the Golem's Pyro aura to vape Mualani's NAs, but not Childe's Burst.
His cons dont do much. Just give him the best buffers, Bennett, Kazuha, Xilonen. Bennet for pyro app some other low dmg pyro applier. No Xiangling as she'll be doing to much dmg to be a fair evaluation of Childe's dps.
@@noobyguy7755 Hmm yea I guess the title could just be a little strangely worded. Still kinda distorts the comparison when some characters get to defeat the boss with shield and others without it.
@@apanaama3703 While yes, only his C3 and C5 add to his damage significantly, they still add to it, but I agree that the suboptimal part is mostly the team comp. Also don't see a major issue with putting Xiangling in the team when these tests also use C6 Furina, C6R5 Fischl etc. But even if we leave Xiangling out of it, the simple fact that Childe was missing Bennett's ATK Buff and didn't get to vape his burst - meaning Kazuha's C2 did absolutely nothing there while enhancing Mualani for example - just makes it pretty meh for an actual comparison to the others. I have a feeling a C5 Childe could have cleared this faster with proper team and vaped Burst.
@@CritsVG He is using c6 Furina there. The thing is if c6 Fischl or Furina is doing more than 1/3 the dmg of those teams, is it really a personal dps comparison or team comparison. But will c6 Fischl or c6 Furina make Childe better than those other dps? If a well built c6 Furina is to use her onfield dmg, whose team dps is it really? If you build Xiangling for just pyro app and low dmg, will it be much better? Will his c5 let him have 2/3 of team dmg? His c6 is not a lot better due to all the buffs being short duration especially Kazuha's, and you need to give him a lot more ER for his c6 to work as solo hydro in International. Moreover this speedrun would be too fast for that longer hydro to matter a lot. Kazuha's c2 does something for his burst. If its not enough then would replacing Kazuha with anyone with cons make him a better dps than those also using that same unit. This isn't a team dps comparison, but a single main dps comparison.
@@MMOJACKX57Channel I mean for geo its fine, but when your first character xiao has to set up and wait till the shield is destroyed, the title becomes a lie, the title makes people expect everyone to do what neuvilette did
If anyone's wondering why mualani hit that much damage, it is because of that pyro status on the boss caused by kazuha's swirl..she was able to cause forward vape and her damage significantly increased..so technically she got buff from kazuha, xilonen, furina and pyro status on the boss.. without that pyro status her damage would have decreased a lot
Well.. Yes? That's how Mualani works? :D Arlecchino also procced reverse vape through the Hydro Aura, it's just how you play those units. Edit: Same with Hu Tao, Diluc, etc.
@@CritsVG I mean the Mualani team he is using does not have any pyro characters unlike the arlecchino team that includes a hydro unit...so Mualani got that additional vape damage..
@@parthabiswas8230 Oh THAT'S what you meant, my bad... Yea, that's definitely an unfair advantage, I see that now. Meanwhile they're not even vaping Childe's Burst lol.
@@fartfacedrenzyy513If you check Mualani 's constellation only c1 increases her elemental skill damage, and c3 just increases her skill's level by 3..so yeah if it was c3, the damage would have increased a bit but not significantly..
@@nrnayem5028 Look at the timer and also he broke the shield to deal that much damage. Mualani almost one shoted that thing without breaking the shield and she was still faster.
@@zonx8801 that's why I told him to check the timer. Bro still proceeds to act unnoticed. If the shield was broken for Mualani that won't be a 17 sec run.
About the chiori team i have all characters expect c0 furina with fontaine fishing weapon , c1 gorou and c0 xilonen with natlan crafttable sword and my chiori is c0 with harbinger of dawn. Can i still play her without geo construct?
damn hoyoverse won't give us a constellation toggle, this would be so usefull if it was a c0-c1 showcase instead, cool numbers tho, the Navia one was instant death
Poor wanderer stuck with an F2P team because there's no other shield breaker. Same with Haitham. If they had Furina in their teams then the clear wouldn't look so ass
"Without Shield Break Showdown" while breaking the shield in nearly half of the runs lol. Still, fun to see some absurd whale numbers that make no sense to me.
The title is misleading, he has theoretical 7M HP if you don't break the shield and take the HP + Resistance into factor, but most the teams here or break the shield or reduces drastically the resistance (kazuha, xilo, superconduct, etc), so it's just a normal 3M boss :v
As someone correctly pointed out to me, it's a lil scuffed though. Using the Pyro Aura from the Golem instead of a Pyro party member means they essentially used one more buffer than she would normally have.
@@fartfacedrenzyy513 You could say that tbf, in that case the most unbalanced one would be Childe at C0 with an incredibly suboptimal team and not even a vaped burst lmao
If I m not wrong then Rank 1st , mualani c2/neuvillitte c6 2nd, arlecchino 3rd,navia c6 / yalen c6 Tbh it is only because mualani is c2 if it were c6 mualani would definitely win this one..
maybe im just dumb but if the boss is 7M how Eula oneshot him with 3M? for that momento the boss had like 90% hp left... or there is something I'm missing /not understanding?
c2r1 mualani almost one shotted the horse with the SHIELD on? Holy cow. Imagine if that was c6 lol. Truly the speedrunning god even with just c2 Seems like c1r1 plunge diluc is stronger than hutao c3r5. Thats kinda embarrasing for midtao ngl
C3 : Doesn't increase the first bite dmg enough to one shot C4 : Doesn't do anything to her bite dmg C5 : Doesn't do anything to the first bite dmg C6 : Doesn't do anything to the first bite dmg She needs R5 to oneshot it without breaking its shield not C6. Don't get me wrong. Her dmg ceiling is super high, but after C2 or at most C3, you want R5 for more speedrunning capabilities, not C6.
Too much shieldbreaking in a "no shieldbreaking" video methinks. And I think it's kinda biased towards res shred. My C2 Nilou team kills this boss about as fast as the Big Yumkasaur. But as far as I know the Big Yumkasaur doesn't have 7 million HP.