ENDING A STORY - Terrible Writing Advice 

When I saw the title I thought "wouldn't it be ironic if this was actually the end? They probably would do that"

man I love the quick self-implementation of your guide!

Honestly, I feel it was a very clever joke and a fun double twist. Though the abrupt ending joke was a little too predictable for my taste. But over all I say this video was above par and I really liked the "No I am ending this" combo with "it was a dream". Very on point.

Hey JP, I got a question. Which is worse; When a writer starts with an ending and tries to build a story around their ideal conclusion? Or A writer who starts a story and keeps it going so long they don't know how to tie up every loose end?

I get the feeling that this episode was partly a swipe at 'The Last Jedi' since Rian Johnson dumped a lot of JJ Abram's ideas for the sake of a twist.

Quick tell me about literally anything that happens in Mass Effect 3 other than the ending.

@@akatoshslayer7599 I never played it.

@Akatosh Shephard kills Mordin

Right? I felt it was a criticism towards both the writer and the audience but every idiot's just too busy saying "D&D bad" to get it

Ya know, when I posted that comment, I was referring to a story in general, not Mass Effect.

F**king thank you, I’m honestly pretty disillusioned to just how cynical the comments to the average TWA video is. Translation: I HATE THIS THING AND IM PRETTY SURE JP HATES IT TOO!

Exactly, he's not the type to do something so contentious. Plus that wasnt the point of this video to start with, if you want to hear his take on criticism the watch his video on it; and yes it is sarcastic plus it doesn't "throw shade" on storytellers like everyone just assumed 🤦‍♂️

It's funny how everyone sees how he was criticizing D&D but failed to see how he was criticizing them as an audience as well

I mean, there jp clearly is hoisting a particular bad franchise as an example of what not to do in his videos.

I’m glad some people can still see it. The worse thing is that this shit is selling.

Unless you're Robin Hobb D: Save the world, lose the girl

@@WolfyAteUrSocks Save the cheerleader, save the world*

My story ends with him only just getting with her then she dies...... :/ I’m one asshole of a writer lmao

@@theamvgirlx Prince of Persia did it

Gurren Lagan subverts that ending concept

Or even better, kill the dark lord in the first installment, then bring him back last minute during every sequel, because surprise, the new big bad was secretly working for him! Then rinse and repeat, and introduce a new big bad that still works for the original dark lord

It’s ok you can say the mcu

“Could I have foreshadowed this by making the main villain’s plan have holes in it that subtly suggest the presence of a more important player? Should I construct this character as an explicitly uncreative type that probably couldn’t plan their way out of a paper bag (kinda like me!)?

so ... World of Warcraft?

Actually the dark lord was a puppet to the mega dark lord, who was the protagonists friend, who was also his love interest, who was also the king of every country, who was also planning to kill Lord Killington, who was also him

Same. This video was written for them :D

@Eric da' MAJ Well, D&D kinda forgot that they had mastered the art of ending stories.

He's also crying while looking at Kathleen Kennedy; JJ Abrams; and Rian Johnson...

I dunno, I don’t think the ending of TLJ is where most people’s complaints lie

EmblemBlade9 the ending is the least of that shit movie’s problems

BeyondWalt3 Say this 3 times in the dark while staring into a mirror, and D&D will appear in it.

And then, it was only jus a dream.

@@evies.1018 I keep thinking you're talking about the super awesome roleplaying game.

@@arandomzoomer4837 Plot twist: D&D are someone's awful first-attempt Dungeons and Dragons characters come to life

@@evies.1018 There you go. But seriously I spread that game like a religion I love it so much.

That’s crazy I was watching that video earlier

Which video?

@@J0hnB09 JelloApocalypse's "So this is basically Adventure Time".

Ew, you don't eat glue. You sniff it.

Don't you mean "sniff glue"?

RWBY in a nutshell

@@malachiowens3423 couldnt agree more

@@malachiowens3423 wut

lol

*Didn't you read that specific twitter post of the autor from 9 years ago?*

Me: damn did my phone overheat and shut off again?

... is my phone buffering?

Is an ad popping up, and why is it taking so long?

Did my laptop disconnect from the internet at my work again? No? Good.

"But I just plugged it in! It was still at 20 perc- oh."

What if they're asexual and aromantic

@@novameowww But then how will there be a love triangle?

@@h-man1371 You're right. Completely forgot about that

But my protagonist is only twelve... How? Just how?

@@allhailbabychuuya9213 make a Epilogue were the Character is Older

Kind of like 'Honest Thoughts'?

Yeah but I think it would have looked even better if at the same time the usual avatar were replaced by another, like the Inner Critic.

it's like your fingers

That was the start of a book actually. The otterbury incident or something

That's how you get clusterfucks like the ending of Star vs. the forces of evil though.

That's me all the way. The story I've been writing, called Let Me Help: An Alien Femdom Love Story, had a clear beginning and I know where it's going to end. The hard part is getting to the ending while making sure the middle part makes sense, plus throwing in some plot twists for good measure. What I have so far is on DeviantArt if you want to give it a read.

That's what I do Figure out the beginning, the end, and all the main plot points before the rest

Oh, absolutely. Remember how J P brought up the pantsers who never plan anything? Or think of every person who has been writing a manga for years and years. It definitely happens.

My problem is the opposite: I have binders full of story details, the ending and the character arcs all figured out already... But where do I BEGIN the story???

@@Newfiecat Pick a time or location thematically related to your ending (the trope is literally called book ends). Like for example if your book ends in a prison break and is about figuring out how to escape start with some fitting incident at the main gate, the thing seperating the characters from freedom.

As am I.

It depends. I've personally written about 4 different stories, however the longest running story I have currently, I'm still struggling with the ending. Don't want a hopeful, uplifting one but the ones I've come up with have often left those who know about it feel worse... I want something that leaves someone feeling "Complete" after reading it but coming up with a solid complete ending to a story that has spanned and evolved over a decade is.... difficult...

Breh that's not very calm of you tho

@@KaaneDragonShinobi It's a rare moment, enjoy it

It was never mentioned aliens. Aliens saved everyone, no explaination needed. On a serious note , in a dark medium that can be meta, might be a good ending, its a good ending for review the series with andy daily, becaue its about his down spiral and it ends meta dark. Good series.

Inb4 a lot of webcomics.

Twin Peaks

does it imply it's either always actually a sad ending? Then what's the point of story, if it's implied it'll go sad really.

Shoter Aredein it also implies that a story could end sadly even though it gets better. It depends upon the narrative and how you end it, so neither are really the correct way to interpretation them

@Tiamat Michelle Hart Or a sad-ish ending when the characters eventually die of old age/sickness/murder/etc. or destroyed emotionally and mentally after becoming immortal and living too long. Life ends eventually after all.... so the story of one's life end eventually. Unless the story drags on about how they influenced the world after they died and stuff of course

Reminds me of that running gag in Rango where they keep foreshadowing his eventual death and then... ...he dies at a super old age, long after the main adventure, from falling down the stairs or something.

"mwaAAAAAHHHHH theeee frenshhhhampagne hasalwaysbeencelebratedforitsexcellence" - Also Orson Welles

This is actually really good advice

*Rian Weasley wants to know your location.*

@@ShibuNub3305 His idea of a good story is more wrong than... Wrong Weasley

@@williamdrum9899 ...FACEPLANTING a story before finish is such an Extreme Symptom of our IP-filled Capitalist-Hell. I cnat believe it happened so hard it retroactively hurt everything that came before for Bleach, HIMYM, 7DS, definetly for Cube-World and arguably for Minecraft.

Reminds me a lot of fnaf lol

Ever since sherk, it’s always been there, and I thought that shark tale killed it, but then....that gas car. *That damn mad gas car.*

@@ShibuNub3305 I spent 4 hours trying to figure out what "Sherk" was now I'm on "gas car"

Really? I thought they stopped.

@@GippyHappy Mad at gas car Madagascar Hope I helped.

@@milicadiy I pissed myself reading this haha

Me too! I was so confused! And than I realized how stupid I was being

I thought my phone died lol

Bro, Same, I thought it was an ad at first

I thought it was an ad for 3 seconds before I grinned and checked the progress bar.

Considering how often my internet cuts off, it was entirely plausible for me to believe.

About 70 years ago, a similar thing happened with the world's first miniseries, Patrick Mcgoohan's The Prisoner. In terms of genre weirdness, only Twin Peaks and Legion have ever matched that one. Mcgoohan didn't know how to end his story until he actually sat down to write it. And when the finale aired, people got so pissed that he spent a couple of weeks in the mountains. But...he was DELIGHTED by the response. He never attacked anyone over it, just calmly explained how he got there. D&D could have learned from that.

Anybody can subvert expectations. Only good writers can Subvert expectations in a good way

Agree %100

I don't know, I like bad endings. Perhaps a little to much:originally, I was gonna end my story with both mc dying just for the sake of it. Then I relalized it was kind of contradicting the hopeful tone in the rest of the book lol.

@@legrandliseurtri7495 Such an ending NEEDS to make sense. Best example of your preferred type I know about is Michael Moorcock's first Eternal Champion novel. It starts as your Chosen One narrative and then twists everything into tragedy.

''Your audience will appreciate a happy ending if your characters deserve it.'' Nailed it. And that's what makes the difference between good and bad ''happy endings'' for me. If the story was just the MC winning over and over again with no struggle and then gets his happy ending, then it's boring as heck (though to be fair, the same can be said of the story as a whole at that point). If they fought and lost and struggled back up and so on, you bet I want to see them succeed. I do like the middle-ground of bittersweets ending myself if the setting of the story simply doesn't allow for a happy ending for everyone (basically any story following multiple characters in different factions that are neither good nor evil), but that doesn't mean I don't want them to try and reach their happy ending after all they have to go through.

Agreed! If the characters have been through everything under the sun and then end in tragedy it usually feels cheap to me(there are exceptions to this rule tho). Don't underestimate a happy ending!

...talking about completing your story without actually doing it.

Jacking of into the ballpit

Hiding a landmine under a whoopy cushion

@@dodojesus4529 *off

This is like cards against humanity

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I'm starting to think he saw the iceberg coming and decided to just hunker down and wait until everyone forgot the tv show existed.

Endings are the easiest thing in the world I don't get why anyone would struggle with them. This happened because this happened. Its like knocking over dominos. I didn't do may taxes because I wanted to watch tv and they were hard. I didn't hier an accounant because I am broke because of that I am rotting in jail the end.

@@mariokarter13 Martin will be dead by the time everyone forgets that abomination.

And thus Martin is as responsible for the final season of GOT's failure as D&D. Not only did he not know how to end the story, he kept getting distracted by every single side character he created, which added to the mess.

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NAME YOUR TWIST VILLAIN Wreck It Ralph: King Candy. Incredibles 2: Evelyn Deavor. heh...heh... Zootopia: Dawn Bellwether. heh...heh.... Frozen: Hans Wester- NO I find a problem with 3 of 4 villains

Bonus points if the twist villain's personality completely changes after the reveal even when in the presence of others who don't know he's a villain.

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@@sayoriiiiiiiiiiiiii well king candy was pretty Sinister already He was just more rotten than he appeared at first glance

@@isauldron4337 they did say 3 of 4 villains, maybe that’s what they meant?

Fan theory: KidRunnerH is actually alive and was pulling the strings the entire time because they are the real villain.

And then the story really ended with- YOU THOUGHT YOU WERE EXPECTING THE REAL ENDING, BUT IT WAS I, DIO!

HA! All according to plan. The sequel hath been hooked.. my unwoven greatly exaggerated death has put me back in the shadows. 😈 Now I inch ever closer to not only this video’s sponsor Skillshare but Audible.com as well. Then set everything on fire! Because GRIMDARK? I totally didn’t not plan to make a sequel veering the story into a maelstrom of referendum trying to meet Pheonix commenter’s expectations!

Phoenix48484757 Nah, the black abrupt end was caused by you as a cliffhanger sequel hook. KidRunner was just a red herring. You cant fool me twice

I could do vividly imagine this guy's voice reading this

Or when everything gets reversed by time travel to where something never happened. The original Infinity Gauntlet storyline in comics wrapped up its crisis that way, easily the weakest part of the story. All credit to Markus & Mcfeely and the Russo brothers for sidestepping that with their own version in Endgame.

Fancy seeing you here

@@jeanyeap4229 hello there

@@quantummelody2959 :-)

@@violetrain4638 Well, Super Mario Bros 2. took place in a world called Subcon, so it was justified.

Another disappointing time travel ending: 1. By time travel, you caused the thing you were trying to prevent from happening in the first place.

@@artman40 Life is Strange in a Nutshell. Go back in time and let Chloe die and all of the problems are solved within a day. Fuck that ending, I choosed let the tornado destroy Arcadia Bay.

@@artman40 Yet another disappointing ending with time travel: after an entire story of wish-fulfillment where the character always gets everything he ever wants with no effort, he goes back in time and creates all the circumstances that made him so great and successful in the first place (which will also take no effort since he already has everything he needs to make it work, because logic).

@@MegaGlassguy That's why I prefer alternate timeline-type of time travel.

@leviticus_ I've got question guys. How about ending, that goes like this: MC was bad person for whole series, narcissistic way. Climax is when he sees his mistakes and is grossed out by his actions. But he didn't change after discovering he's piece of trash instead he just directs his agression at himself, when he always blamed everyone else and now is blaming himself. It's still no good- he still isn't cured. And has very honest conversation with the most important person for him. That person tells him that he need to change and stop punishing himself cuz it's way to nowhere. Whole ending is gives hope but there's no continuation. Is it good ending???

I cri everytime.

*DAMNIT BIOWARE*

Attack on titan

Don't forget the part where they consider a comedic side content (dlc) the true ending, even if said content has no proper placement to the main story

Bobby Gane But what if the theme of the story is to end prejudice against suspicious looking butlers?

No that is completely stupid mysteries can be subtle and you can have a red herring but can't come out of left feild.

First Saw movie.

Can my red herring come from the lake or the pond?

@@greenstuff9361 Not unless its the left pond badum tisssssssssssssss

I was sleep deprived when I saw the end of evangelion. The ending makes perfect sense to very tired people.

Yeah, I hate it.

I used to think I was missing out on that show until I heard people talk about it.

To be fair the shows Lore is intentionally ignored the characters are plot devices to convey the themes of the show

I have a simple rule: if you couldn't explain your story within the actual story or make the story strong enough to where no explanation is required, you have failed.

It can work if it has some finale for the characters and really good forshadowing that recontextualizes the story, making it rereadable. And is meant to end open. Otherwise, agree.especially in series finals that are might not renewed.

basically, it forces the reader to recontextualize everything they just read by themselves and encourages them to nitpick/reread into earlier chapters rather than growing and developing with this revelation alongside the characters

It has pros and cons, it gives you time to play with the new perspective, but it doesn't linger nearly as much in the readers minds.

I think it depends on the twist. If the twist concerns some important part of the story, but not the main plot or premise, it is often more interesting to have the characters deal with it. A twist that reveals that the central premise or the main plot where actually something else can often fits better at the very end. The reason being not that it would not be interesting, but rather that a central twist would often realistically throw most of the characters into a crisis and have them reevaluate their motivations and goals, or even disrupt all character connections. That can of course be very interesting, however it has the potential to change the tone of the story aswell as all character relations to the point where it's basically a new story with new characters in a new genre.

Where would you say these twists should go (side note: how many twists is too many for one story?)? 1) Main character's give-advice-from-HQ teammates are in his/her head, not in some secret physical location (known to this character/group, but not to the reader or other characters). 2) A side character's "twin who's never in the same place at the same time" is really a multiple personality, and inspires the main character to be open about his/her teammates' existence. 3) What looks like serial murders are actually serial funerals set up by an unlicensed doctor who keeps accidentally killing his patients.

Laiser I really liked Avatar's ending; despite it being predictable, it was satisfying (something GoT writers could learn from), but it did have some problems, namely the whole mess that was Katara and Aang (I never felt that Katara would be on board with that, she acts like Aang's mother or older sister and the character opportunities for Aang that would come from this rejection would be much more interesting than a half hearted relationship ending) and Iroh abandoning Zuko to become firelord at 16 for nothing more than a tea shop, but I do think it could have done with a sequel; the originally planned season 4. I feel like having at least a passing reference to the fact that they need to rebuild and that this is only the first step would help the ending. I'll explain what was going to happen in season 4 and why I think this would be a great addition if you want, just ask. I also loved the ending to Code Geass; despite the messy parts of the 2nd season (the whole 'the emperor was good-ish all along' bit mainly), it did an amazing job of bringing the story to a satisfying, if tragic ending. FMAB was amazing, my one criticism was that the whole 'Mustang wants to be the Führer' arc was never really completed. A single sentence saying that he was putting aside his aims for now to help the Ishvalans and a photo in the end credits of him as Führer would make that ending perfect.

@@aster-naut: IIRC Mustang doesn't become the Führer, at least not right away, due to being blind. Instead, Grumman assumes the position.

The fma 2003 series ending was a mess A rushed weak conclusion

@@isauldron4337 Yeah, hende why I specifically referred to FMAB

if you want good stories from the weirdest things imaginable, play pokémon mystery dungeon explorers of sky; for some reason they made this game have an actually insanely good story (most importantly ending) despite the fact that 1) it's a children's game (it isn't as stupid as normal for a children's game tho) 2) it's a pokémon game (they have overly simple stories)

Wait, really?!

That’s somehow better and even worse than the TV show ending

This is one series where I actually prefer the show ending

Reminds me of Steins;Gate, the whole series is about a guy suffering like hell to save everyone and turns out that the only solution is to literally undo everything he did, it doesn't just go "and none of that happened" but it even goes into detail on how he undos every single thing he did trough the show It's like the thing is rubbing it in your face, but it stills pulls out some bs so the main character gets the girl at the end (because she somehow remembers a sliver of what happened in the ereased time lines for some bs, unexplained reason), i really regret wasting my time with it And the whole show is a "asexual guy builds a harem of girls" trope too, if the ending wasn't bad enough

@@rompevuevitos222 Have to disagree on the "because she somehow remembers a sliver of what happened in the ereased time lines for some bs, unexplained reason". It's literally explained why that happens in Faris's chapter.

Alexios Comnenoi Or Harry Potter ;)

Or 99% of Shonen manga

@@dorkyface harry potter executed that perfectly so its really not bad. I'll give that a pass

Most authors resist the urge to add a dozen chapters on their pet history theory that has effectively nothing to do with the plot while they're at it though.

@@alexworld257 well the only shonen manga that dont have that are Ushio to Tora, JoJo, Gintama, Soul Eater, and Fullmetal Alchemist

Love Bad Writing be Roasted? Madvocate, Jay Exci and Hbomberguy do it all the time for TV-Shows. And Kriomson Rogue does it for Books.

As soon as I saw this I heard the song in my head! Between the Lions was my fix as a kid!

Someone else who heard that too!!

Beat me to it! Curses!

OW, right in the CHILDHOOD!!!

I remember this

Good thing they actually did learn something

The only time that shit ever worked

That's also how the first Sands of Time game ended, though I give the game sequels credit for showing an escalating blowback every time the Prince tries to "fix" the situation. He finally resolves everything when he STOPS trying to undo everything and finally live with the consequences of his choices.

It's the little details.

Just come up with the end first and then just make the rest of the story a foreseeable device to rush there :)

Never writing an ending is actually a perfectly viable writing strategy! A series that never ends becomes a perpetual cash cow as new installments keep coming out for eternity! Just ignore the inevitable power creep and drift from the original plot and characterization that drew in fans in the first place. They'll still buy it!

I know that. I completed a long story once (and some short stories), but recently I felt like trying again, and finally... I see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Spoiler: You weren't actually supposed to follow the advice laid out on the other story vids.

I don't either, but it's because I improve and then want to redo it because I know I can do better now than I did previously, or I have too many good ideas. I think I've gotten out of that spiral, because at the very least I've stabilized the worldbuilding process.

Gah, I usually hate those videos with a burning passion. If I want my brain food chewed, I'll do it myself. A critical dissection of the overall work can provide insight but JUST the ending? Quit wasting my time, you know?

c oh I don’t. What concerns me is that some people do. They sat through a movie and paid so little attention evidently they need it explained. It exposes a preposterous lack of intellectual curiosity that is foreign to me.

charles hetrick What was that famous quote again? About a blue curtain? Those videos are exactly like that

Nom Blob, that’s the bit about how the author just meant to describe the color of the curtains but some rando English professor spends a semester exploring the deeper meaning. What frustrates me about that is often time said professor suggests theirs is the only best interpretation. The part about endings explained videos that horrifies me is for example I found just now a video explaining the ending of the first episode in the Love Death & Robots series from NetFlix. The whole point of those episodes is for the viewer not to have all the details and to fill them in themselves with their imagination them discuss and compare with the rest of society the differing ideas.

Johnathon Haney if you don’t already know the channel Good Bad Flicks, I enjoy his breakdowns of movies. He covers the whole movie, pokes a little fun and then goes into how it was made and the politics of the producers and directors and all that noise. Mostly horror flicks dude loves horror flicks.

Honest writing advice is difficult to make, nevermind the entire "everyone writes in their own way" deal. Making terrible writing advice on the other hand is easy, you just talk shit about franchises without specifically mentioning them in ironically unironic fashion.

Honest writing advice would be more informative but would take away from the humour. I think it’s cool that he’s going to try honest writing advice

I mean, "Terrible Writing Advice" is still honest writing advice for what not to do. Knowing where the pitfalls are is already half the work for not falling in them.

You'll probably like this video then, from the same channel: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-tZ3FnbzNwss.html

There's too many channels that do that already

We should PS the protagonist hanging off the cliff, and make it a meme "... And that's why hes called cliff hanger ' Can't hold on... Much Longer!!!'" Seriously, Valve ain't gonna make that game guys. We've known it for years,

Lol half-life has ended on a cliffhanger for 5 FUCKING TIMES already.

valve really hate number 3 (⁠~⁠_⁠~⁠;⁠)

TWA aint the only Guy covering Writing-Advice-presented-with-Huor. Hello Future Me does so too, but way mre funny: Big Crticism Essays like Madvocastesa Flash-Videos, Jay Excis legendary Doctor Who Video and Hbomberguys and Krimson Rogues whole channel is about 'Epic Long Videos'.

And when the cow runs out, we're gonna beat a dead horse until it gives milk.

And then make some prequels and a spin off for every character

The feuds shall run their due course. *Eventually*

Resolving the love triangle? Fool, that was merely a dream you had!

The best way to resolve the love triangle is to not solve it at all and keep it vague so the fans can have shipping wars for generations....or several days...

Uuuuuntil the SEQUEL!

I wonder. How many love triangles have been solved in fiction by just making it a polygamous/open relationship.

I remember that one and yeah, you're right. There's one sequence in particular which basically told you how it was going to end but you didn't realize it at the time.

Wizard of Oz?

A Christmas Carol is another good example

“My life as a Toaster time traveler” does the ‘it all was a dream’ thing pretty good

*Screeches in Between the Lions*

Time, Mr. Fogarasi. Is it really that *time* again? ...

@@ahniandfriends123 **Joins in** *AND THAT'S WHY HE'S CALLED CLIFF HANGEEEER!!!~♫*

Wow,I’m so sorry...............

Yup, and now following this advice you know all you have to do is stop the story where it's at, Surprise!

How did How I met your Mother end?

@@nerothewateruser8030 It ended with the Mother dying from an illness and Ted's kids giving him the blessing to date their "Aunt" Robin because apparently, the whole reason he told the story was to convince the kids that he should date Robin. It undermined all the character development he and Robin went through for all nine seasons.

@@zoisite_moon2828 That's... a pretty bad ending

@@nerothewateruser8030 its even worse than he explaines to you.

@@paulovinasrocha6166 At least they foreshadowed it and kept going with it. Imagine if this was last season thing only.

Yea, who likes the type of ending that

My favourite endings are when

What about The Wizard of Oz? It's cut from the same cloth as Alice in Wonderland.

Alice in Wonderland being a dream fits thematically and makes the whole story make sense. Same with Oz. The themes in that revolve around Dorothy coming to terms with her own life. The lesson she learns carries through past the dream. That's the key to making that ending work, I think.

Silent Hill would like to know your location.

Alice in Wonderland is SO good...

And DnD

@Hans Hanzo what about Alpha, helix and dark matter

And here I am holding out hope for a 3rd season of KRYPTON, after where they left off of.

Freaking Eragon

Honestly that last book was a mess, and the biggest problem is that he clearly wrote himself into a corner. When he revealed the source of Galbatorix’s strength in the third book, it revealed just how dangerous he was, and how difficult taking him down would be. I thought there would be some sort of elegant and brilliant solution that would allow the heroes to outwit him, but instead it became painfully obvious that he had no idea how to get around this problem, and so instead resorted to multiple Deus Ex Machinas that opened up so many plot holes. The heroes won purely because of authorial bias, plain and simple.

Better a lot of time Taking to wrap a big conflict than just fi

Better to take a lot of time to wrap things up and fix problems that won't go away because Galbatorix is dead,instead of just ending.

@@seanhoogland1938 Oh thank God. I thought I would have to set off the nukes.

RIGHT?! That took a serious load off

lol it's a good thing to find a fallow weeblet

"You just have to cross the finish line" really hit me

@@christophergarcia9022 It's something few people who start stories do, trust me. Mostly, they just talk about it.

Don’t forget to clarify that rocks fell beforehand!

Homestuck

I know someone who wrote a short story, ending it with meteor hitting earth and killing everyone rather than answering any of the compelling questions he set up. Of course, he was intentionally trolling everyone he handed it to read.

So, _The Ugly Barnacle_ ?

@@knightofberenike9633 I was _gonna_ say, "or that the barnacle was really that ugly," but *BlackCover95* beat me to it. X^D

And don't forget the Confederacy winning the American Civil War! That totally hasn't been done to death!

UnderTheThunder good idea, and it should be set in the USA no matter what.

@@kayseek1248 Absolutely! Alternate History about the Boer Republics should totally take place in the US despite the fact that the US is only tangentially effected by this change and having the story take place in, y'know, Africa would not only make much more sense but also be much more interesting! That's an excellent idea!

I'm still amazed he hasn't covered time travel and alternate history more. That's pretty much the entire setting of his book.

@@BonaparteBardithion It's harder to pull the trigger when you're pointing the gun at your own foot.

I really hated Hunger Games’ ending, they killed off all the likeable characters and then didn’t even give the characters I didn’t give a shit about a happy ending? They’re literally living in a graveyard. That book made me feel like shit and I never want to touch the series again because of it.

The biggest polyamorous ship of all time

If you'd like a twist ending done right with decent buildup, hunt Robert E Howard's "Worms Of The Earth".

Hans Hanzo not if it’s in service of a shitty story (a la Mass Effect 2).

There's also the fact that some stories are only going to be predictable to some people because they're smart enough to figure it out. Usually because they've experienced so much fiction that they can see the patterns. I was able to predict a lot of the stuff in Good Omens. But it was still a satisfying journey getting there.

And Shaylaman.

Send it to kishimoto as well. How do you manage to make two great villains to end the series on and then think it’s a good idea to pull out an alien queen out of your ass

it all makes sense now!

Well, J P has only been hating on that for the entire back end of the year...why on earth would you think he'd have it bleed into several recent videos of his?

I don't care for spoilers so can u tell what's all this about the GOT terrible finale? Why was it awful.

@@jge8144 Subversion for the sake of subversion. Making characters do things that totally defy their arcs. Giving short, flimsy justifications and lazy build up for their sudden changes that feel like someone shoehorned it in after the fact. It was obviously rushed because so much of it could've been solved with a few more episodes of thoughtful build up. Making important things they've built up over a long time turn out utterly irrelevant. Seemingly looking at the fan theories and trying their best to do the opposite of that even if the theories made a ton of sense. Gave pretty much everyone a miserable or unsatisfying conclusion. If you're really curious, just watch it yourself for the full effect. Or settle for one of the dozens of videos dissecting that season.

@@jge8144 these videos go into painstaking detail of what is wrong with GoT season 8 and why, and yes that is a two and a half hour breakdown of an hour long episode. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-GI7zy1PTMp0.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-5B8Ycfy-Ldc.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7K0KaEYX41c.html

@@jge8144 Long Story Short: Fan theories figured out the twist at the end a while ago, and to avoid the "predictable ending" the showrunmers basically made a rushed, poorly justified change in the story that messed up everything that the show was building towards to be "subversive". It didn't really help that the writing was already going to crap because the show writers overshot the books and didn't have George RR Martin's dialogue and story beats to crib from anymore. TL;DR half of the things that The video was mocking could be applied to the GOT finale.

@@williamhare4456 will take a look at those, thanks!

with a side order of "have most of the antagonists turn good at the last minute for no reason regardless of if what they said or did doesn't equate to being forgiven so easily and/or their good motives do not in any way shape or form match up with their previously established evil and cruel personalites and actions" oh and let's introduce this evil god who caused everything bad that happened but never actually acknowldge that or even have him appear in the story as the final antagonist.

Opposite rivals where the 'good guy' always wins

Oh wow-

I am Dream Are zombies even demons?

@@emblemblade9245 I mean, it depends on your source material, but in the case of DOOM, there are zombies that are just possessed humans if I recall correctly.

“If I had a nickel for every time an “It was all a dream” ending was done well, I’d have two nickels, which isn’t a lot, but it’s weird that it happened twice.”

WOW, THAT'S RELATABLE!

Oh golly, i suppose someone wants attention, huh?

@@jackisawesome3 Oh no just trying to make a joke. I suppose you don't know what that is do ya pal?

@@jackisawesome3 maybe!

@@Toasty218 Jokes are supposed to be funny