Navopache Electric Cooperative (NEC) performs a three-phase energized line transfer as part of a single-to-double circuit distribution upgrade in Pinetop-Lakeside, Arizona.
They seemed very relaxed which is another thing we call complacency. I kept thinking one of these guys is gonna get his face bit. I guess everybody has a different level of comfort. Or lack of respect. If you said one of these guys is dead in 5yrs I wouldn’t be surprised and I’ll leave it at that.
This work is a lot different than the work I do. Climbing up utility poles with gaffs in the Navy Seabees is about as close as I ever got to being a lineman. Look, lock, drop. Repeat. I rewire old houses theses days and there's no shortage of old houses and work in New Jersey. Thanks for the informative video.
especially with all the safety violations if i was that forman i would kill that crew. thankfully they actually made it down shame on those lineman no cover up in the line or pole
I watched a video called Life on The Line with Travolta and my respect for these guys jumped 110% Thank You to all the Lineman who risk their lives for our comfort.
much respect for those that do this kind of work... as an ex-military men, u couldn't pay me enough to do this... i respect electricity too damn much to mess with it.
It's interesting to hear the comments from the retired linemen. It's called progress, guys. We get better at things over time. A surgeon who spent 30 years doing open heart surgery with very low success rates would be bewildered watching a surgeon today perform cardiac catheterization as an outpatient procedure!!
Doesn’t matter how long you’ve been retired as a lineman, or going to school for it now, the amount of safety violations is incredibly high. These men are lucky to be alive with how they are practicing this trade. Numerous times in this video they performed unsafe tasks which could’ve killed the both of them in the bucket instantly because of there neglect to cover second points of contact.
You guys are good! I have observed the orange insulators over the lines while technicians are working and wondered if they could be applied easily. Your video answers this question! Your work makes me appreciate the professionalism exhibited by these folks! Thanks for keeping my lights on! Stay safe! Bob
So what happens if the cumalong breaks or breaks the line or looses tension all the sudden?? With no facecshielding on seems like they could take it to the face... or when placing in insulators theyre in a tiny bucket and theyre working and communicating together as they lift and place it? Wind play a big factor in this? Just wondering cuz my team would never send a man up, gloved or suited fully up.. they would rather rely totally on poles and insulated pulley systems...
We would have used tiger-tails to insulate the lines. Then we'd be going in with a line spreader pole that squeezes the lines apart and anchors them together. The spreader gets picked-up by a crane to lift them above the pole height. (Our poles are steel and concrete - so very conductive) Then we'd have the machine place the pole into the ground anchor, where it would be grouted in - absolutely 100% plumb. Then the crane would lower the wires to correct height - where line anchoring would occur. We place lines on the top of the cross-arm and bolt the insulator cap down The spreader bar is packed-up and everything looks perfect. Nobody gets between lines - nobody is holding a loaded cable.
At one point one the guys face was about 2cm (less than a inch) from that live wire (if if was really live)... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KrQ17myzSFw.html
@@a64738 He can actually touch a live wire, because he's insulated from the ground. It'll sting quite a bit (his body would work as a capacitor, passing some of the AC current) but won't be dangerous.
@@AlexBesogonov His body wont just be a capacitor to the environment, his body will energize the WHOLE TRUCK and the capacitive leakage currents will probably hurt him.
Butter fingers on what? They’re not cutting wire tails? 3 wire construction gives you plenty of spacing between yourself and opposite phases. The knuckle on their boom is very low so they basically covered the 2 first phases they transferred for no reason other than the camera. It’s a fiberglass arm if you’re concerned about second point of contact maybe??? Are you an apprentice?
One question I always wondered about when it comes to these prefabbed cross-arms that use no underside bracing: How does a corss-arm like this maintain stability so it doesn't wag in the wind? Do they use multiple bolts to mount it?
These are fiberglass crossarms. Most fiberglass crossarms have a bracket which holds a bolt above and below the crossarm. This prevents the crossarm from moving. Hope this helps.
Yea if these boys were on duke system they'd be fired. No cover on the arm or pole, boom under uncovered energized phases, energized phases uncovered to their back. No positive control over wire while being moved.
I'm very surprised that the employer allows that kind of risk taking. It's not just a personal risk but if they had lost control of those lines and dropped one on the arm the power would be gone and the cost of fixing the burnt mess would cost dearly.
Experienced lineman use common sense when they work. Scared or inexperienced lineman, do every little thing the company asks for regardless if it makes sense or not. They did nothing wrong, your company is keeping you in a box. You’re concerned about the boom but look at how far away it is from all the phases. You’re concerned about the energized phases to their backs but look at how far the separation is. Also, they didn’t cut any wire or handle any long tails. What is positive control to you and how would that have been safer than they way they moved the wire? Why would you cover a fiberglass arm? Are you assuming it’s really wet? Are you assuming the pole was soaked in water before they set it? Do you do any logical thinking before you do a job?
Was glad to see the safety briefing at the beginning! I was concerned however at the 4:35 mark to see the uncovered arm of the man lift directly under the exposed live line. Is the boom isolated from ground somehow? Thanks guys for your service and keeping the power flowing, safety has to be the #1 priority in everything we do so everyone goes home to their families at the end of each day!
This really is not the safest crew. Many places would have much more rubber up there. With that being said, yes, the bucket has an insolated lining in it so even if you do make contact, it would only bite you, not electrocute you. Many buckets also have insulated booms along side with the insulated bucket. So even if they make contact they probably won't get injured.
@@TheBanjoShowOfficial at 4:34 when they placed the center line, in the background you can see the white arm of the boom from the winch truck is unprotected!
The bucket truck(manlift) they are working out of would have minimum insulated rating of 46,000 volts, and the upper boom arm is mostly all fiberglass and insulated. In theory the lineman could barehand the line from the bucket and be ok, but the real danger is line to line contact. If they make contact between the two lines, there is no insulaiton to protect them other than the rubber gloves/sleeves they are wearing.
So much for two layers of protection when they handled that energized phase without cover up. Also we call the pork chops, grips and that’s a hot hoist.
I do not think the jumpers are cut. If they installed a recloser or something like that then they might remove the jumpers but I do not think they were removed.
I feel that's the way to go imo. No service assurance is worth making a job 10x more dangerous than it has to be. I would rather my power go off for a couple hours or a day and know the linemen are safer. The job can probably be done faster when power is off too. Ground both ends of all 3 phases and it is safe to work on.
That's the harsh reality of US capitalism. In Europe we have more of a "soziale Marktwirtschaft" (not always very social, but for sure better than in the US). Protection of workers has a higher value here in relation to maximizing profit than in the US.
@@dillanglover107 We have deenergizations very very rarely here in Germany. I would assume that we have more backup. When I was a child (30years ago) we had more outages, but the energy supply has improved and I cannot remember any outage over the last years, not even during thunderstorms.
The pin insulator on field side has the fiber bolt away from the pole. How you supposed to loosen it from the pole, or do these guys not stick from a pole?
What exactly are you wondering? I think there is an attachment for their impact which they can use. It’s pretty close though so I’d be worried about hitting the pole. Hope that answered your question.
This isn’t really a false deadend but it is just a unguyed double deadend. Usually wire tension doesn’t need to be measured(from my observations) but there are special cases when tension needs to be measured.
They worked outside the phases, never had a loose wire flopping around, the arm made out of same material as the jumper pins, and they stayed out of reach of the pole. What’s the issue
Arm is fiberglass I think the insulators are plastic or polymer. They didn’t not apply enough line guards or coverup to protect themselves from the high voltage if one measure of protection failed. You can never be too safe.
I would never do that. Just disconnect the powerline and get substation fed from the other side during maintenance time. If there is no redundant line, just get job done without power. Nobody will die due to power outage of a few hours.
Yeah your right if we in the 80s and 90s but The world is changing and the power supply companies have to meet maximum customer outage restrictions - There is a price on human life unfortunately
So I Interviewed for a lineman job a few weeks ago still waiting to hear back just watching videos to see what I'm getting in to. My question is how are they not being shocked?
Wow I had no idea linemen ever touched the lines. I know their gloves are rated for it but I still assumed all work was done in a way to best avoid it. Are the bucket trucks fully insulated from ground? Wondering how bad it would be if one slipped up and it contacted their skin such as their face.
Trucks a fully insulated 3 times, bucket liner, and twice on the boom. You can touch energized conductor so long as you’re fully insulated, as you are in a bucket, so long as there is no crossphasing or path to ground.
No, the rain will actually help the dirt compact around the pole better and concrete will prematurely rot the pole. No utility sets wooden poles with concrete, spoil from the hole, crushed stone or a two part expanding foam.
Can someone explain to me how they can touch a line with electricity still live? I have no idea how this works. I live in Lake Charles Louisiana where hurricane Laura hit and there are lines down everywhere and im so paranoid to be anywhere near them!
They can touch a live line because 1) They are in a bucket that is insulated from the Earth 2) They are wearing rubber gloves 3) They are wearing rubber sleeves which cover their arms up to their shoulders. 4) They only handle one live line at a time. 5) They cover live wires and parts they are not working on with rubber mats. by doing the above steps they never create a path for electricity to go through them. Interesting note: The rubber sleeves they are wearing are usually only used at high voltages so this line they are handling could be a 7000 or greater voltage line.
If u live on the east coast u don’t have to jump thru that hoop . First energy & Pepco pay for everything up front ( salary & schooling ) . Their desperate for linesman .
See blanket on insulator but not the shoe?! No guts on phases moving over the top of your head?! No split blanket on arm even though it’s fiberglass arm but was it tested?
How is the vehcile isolated from ground? Just by the tires? I mean imagine accidental touch of one phase to metal arm of the crane you guys are up there.
The tires insulate a tiny bit but on bucket trucks, there is usually a liner and insulated boom(s). I don’t know about cranes though. Cranes have to be grounded where I live when doing work so it’d probably create an arc.
As an ape you have a lot to learn if you didn’t see the TONS of violations and close calls. Hand line on the neutral?? No cover on hot phases? No guts almost period. Hot line in jib. Spreading wire using tree for anchor. Not pole cover. No blankets. Guys pulling energized line or line within MAD of other energized lines with no gloves and sleeves. No way this was fully energized when they spread.
I mean did they get it done yes but I think there should been more cover as a precaution when setting and then moving phase overhead is fine but should have had cover on it and lift it but the cover upside down so it protects not only you but also anything it could come in contact with
They could have saved themselves some extra cover up by reversing the order they dbl deadended the phases. Throw two hogs on the first phase and proceed to the farthest phase and work your way back out. It will save you having to cover the jumper you just made. Work smarter NOT harder.
Glad I saw this comment. I was getting irritated by all the people talking about how unsafe they were, while I was more annoyed by the fact they worked on the phases from the inside out instead of outside in. Wasted moves
Cost of installation, maintenance, and removal. Accessibility is horrible. You usually need to take an excavator and possibly a jack hammer just to access a line. I do not think underground work can be done live either.
Does your body feel anything differently when being up there touching live wires with thousands of volts? I know they are insulated, but don’t they feel a bit different?
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From my understanding they are not insulated it's a bare wire made from aluminum.
So from 1 to 10. How dangerous is this? 1 being at home on the couch 10 being the first wave storming the beaches of normandy at the front of the boat.
