Enneagram Type 1 Everything You Need To Know? | Pastor Matt Brown | Sandals Church Sermon 

Unlikely a God thing, as the Enneagram is invalid, unscientific and born from occult practices.

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Thank you for watching with us friend!

I can relate to what you’ve shared ♥️

You're saying demons can tell the truth and offer us useful advice. This is false. The Enneagram has been proven useless by psychologists and is classified as astrology minus birthdays. www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/people-are-strange/201909/when-personality-test-results-are-wrong-feel-so-right www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html?m=1

From Jay Medenwaldt's second part of the scientific dismantling of the Enneagram: "So why is it that such a questionable tool could be so helpful for so many people? The short answer is that our thinking is governed by quick thinking mechanisms that make life easy for us, but unfortunately, they also lead us astray sometimes. A good book on the subject is Thinking, Fast and Slow." It's important to know how our minds actually work and why we're open to poorly constructed theories like the Enneagram.

Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14). 2 Timothy 4:3-4 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

GOD BLESS YOU SIR.

Felicia Follum This is such a perfect example of the unhealthy potential of the Type 1. Thank you for the anecdote!

TELL ME ABOUT IT! SAME

Oop same

I hear you.

Same here!

Same, Very Hard!

Ok. Tell me, how does the story of Jephthah informs me? The Binding (Gen. 22)

Right on I can't believe people fallow this Garbage You got the Bible read it

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@@johanzand69 Good post!

Bonnie Noll it’s good to know where things came from but at the same time, is it not possible for God to have victory even over this? To use what was intended for evil for HIS own glory?

There are many warnings in the Bible about false teaching and occult practices getting into the church. God warns us through his word for a reason.

I rebuke you Satan... you're not funny!!!... this is not Bible this is a false teacher... hes deceiving and being deceived... Jesus said come out from among them and touch not the unclean thing again. This man has a form of God but deny the power there of... I pray you come to the saving knowledge of Jesus.

Nicolle Sil After looking it up my convictions have changed. You’re right. We have to be so careful; the enemy is crafty.

Glad to read you've changed your mind!

I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).

Thank you for watching!

We're so glad to hear that!

I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).

Jill, I have been asking God about my anger because as a 1, I was having a hard time finding sin in my life (which sounds so snobby as I type that) but he kept bringing me back to Anger. Anger is the root of my sin as it causes me to start judging others, then getting SO angry at things I can't fix in people that I fly into a rage (like at my kids) or I get in the car and gossip about what everyone is doing wrong and get bitter because no one sees my right. The root is anger. I am angry that no one sees things like I see them. So yes, anger is the root of sin in my life. I agree with what you say that anger is not a sin, but for me, I am learning that anger causes me to sin in my heart. I may not go out and get drunk, but I sure can judge those that do...both are sin.

While anger is an emotion, he actually said that allowing your anger to CONTROL YOUR FOLLOWING actions is the sin. In your case, maybe the gossiping but being judgmental, critical of others and having self righteousness are some others he listed. He is actually spot on with the core sin.

I think we need to remember that the enneagram has been around for so long. He did not make this up. Even non Christians use this. Instead of the word "sin", think of it as your weakness.

@@rebeccad.8120 False. The Enneagram's "ancient" origins were a lie by Claudio Naranjo to make it more popular, and people have fallen for it hook, line and sinker. The Enneagram has absolutely no scientific value, mainstream psychologists (read: not New Agers) have often never even heard of it because no credible colleges/universities teach it www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html?m=1

Also, "Instead of the word "sin", think of it as your weakness" is a completely unbiblical perspective. The Bible tells us "All have sinned and fall short of the glory of God". Trying to downplay the gravity of our sin is not good.

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Claim: It seems that the Enneagram is a useful tool. It is a tool for transformation, understanding, self-knowledge, growth, discernment. Response: The Enneagram uses a lot of terms that are undefined, including the term “tool”. In fact, no book or teaching on the Enneagram even attempts to define what is meant by “tool”, but instead depends on the audience for understanding. One must guess the meaning, and assuming “tool” means something for making tasks easier, one should be able to measure how well it makes them easier. If it facilitates discernment, then it must be possible to know and test how it facilitates discernment, or how it does not do so, and to what degree. In order to evaluate the usefulness of a tool, one must measure whether the tool caused a measurable effect on the task at hand or not. The enneagram itself does not measure self-knowledge or discernment, so an external tool must be used to measure these things. External may mean the person undergoing the process of discernment or knowing of oneself, but this is a subjective not an objective view. Self-reporting on one’s subjective feelings about how much change has occurred is not reliable and subject to error, and even self-deception. Understanding and discernment entail the use of reason and judgement, and in order to facilitate that, clear terms, sound judgements and valid conclusions should be abundant. However, the Enneagram has numerous vague concepts, unsound propositions, and invalid conclusions that don’t follow from their premises.

Please stop using the term "tool", the Enneagram's usefulness as a tool has been debunked.

I relate to both 1 and 5, both strongly. I'm INTP.

No, the Enneatypes are all vague, people relate to multiple types all the time, this is a sign of its invalidity. Enneagram proponents have had to constantly change the rules of the system to keep up with the gaping flaws in the theory, to the point where you can presumably have a "triad" of 9w1w2-3w4w5-7w6w8. It's infantile.

Thank you for your willingness to reply. I believe that Christians also need to understand that God is completing, not making something different. It’s His story, we just play a role in His story. God never needs to start again. He always gets it right. Anyway, thanks for replying... I appreciate your insight, and willingness to remain open minded and brave. The world needs more of people like yourself. May God bless you as well...

Hi T_Meyah! I am a Christian and I must speak truthfully that we do not worship the same God. My God is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He is Jesus, the Messiah, Who not only died for all of our sins but rose from the dead in victory over sin, hell, and the grave. I know we do not serve the same God because my God is love! I don't have to perform to earn His love, I don't have to wonder and be insecure if I am loved and forgiven by Him or if I'm going to heaven. I have *certainty* of His great love! I have the *sure hope and faithful promise* of heaven awaiting me. I pray with all my heart that you come face-to-face with the God of the universe, the King of Kings, Jesus Christ, the Savior of the world! God bless you in JESUS name:)

I encourage you to listen to the precursor to this series: Why God Wants You to Love Yourself. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ykydJ4kbqGA.html He's not using the enneagram to teach the Bible, he's using the Bible to teach the enneagram in a different light. Despite the enneagram's origins, it holds truth to it regarding psychology and how our minds work. He utilizes a tool that is often misinterpreted and misused to reach different types of people.

@@kaleightodd9873 Actually, it does not hold any truth regarding psychology and how our minds work. 150 mental health experts were polled in a study (Koocher, et al, 2014) and called the Enneagram the 2nd most-discredited tool behind the Szondi test. The International Encyclopedia of the Social Sciences called MBTI, the Enneagram and other typologies "a form of divination" (not a Christian text). Patrick Vermeren is an HR expert who has close relationships with many psychologists in order to find best practices for hiring employees. He wrote a book on the subject that is hard to find, but he was generous enough to post his chapter on the Enneagram freely on the book's website. The chapter is entitled "Myth 8: The enneagram can teach us something about our personality." Jay Medenwaldt is a PhD candidate in psychology at Baylor U and has made the Enneagram part of his dissertation. He uses actual, useful information on how our minds work and has stated multiple times that the Enneagram should not be used. His latest post on his personal website concludes: "The overwhelming majority of scientific evidence shows that the enneagram does not accurately describe how people are, how they think, how they act, or how they grow. It has negative effects that are often overlooked while most of its apparent positive effects can be explained through other psychological mechanisms." So who should I trust? Laypeople like Matt Brown, who have not studied psychology at any level, much less a Masters or PhD? Or the huge majority of MA/PhDs in Psychology who either mock the Enneagram, or have never even heard of it because it's not actually taught by any serious institutions? Or maybe I should listen to Helen Palmer, who IS a PhD in psychology, but also claims to have psychic powers/ESP? LOL. No thanks. Medenwaldt and another PhD, Jennifer Fayard, even admitted there was a time they believed in stuff like the Enneagram or MBTI or whatever "typology", but once they had to take more challenging courses and do hard research on the human mind and behavior, they realized why it was bogus. I think we would be wiser to listen to people like them. OH, and the origins are completely occultic. LOLOLOL. But yeah, such a wonderful, compassionate tool.

Thank God because this is blasphemy.

@@MissDarleneRae Well, I wouldn't say thank God, because people are being deceived, my point was that it's all clearly about entertainment and not the word of God, it's sad really.

The only Biblical approach to the Enneagram is to discard it as the "childish parlor game" typology is (Carl Jung's words, not mine). worshiphisbeauty.wordpress.com/2020/05/09/the-theology-of-the-enneagram/

I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).

The eldest son would have been responsible for unmarried sisters.

Omg that's such a 1 comment😂😂😂

@@emmae1716 😂 LoL exactly

I encourage you to research the origins of the Enneagram. Even if these teachings seem helpful and good, they are rooted in mysticism. The Bible warns us that even Satan disguises himself as an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).

"Grandshaykh `Abdullah (q) used to serve in his master’s khaniqah. Everyday hundreds of visitors arrived to visit the Shaykh, most of them coming from Daghestan. Among the many visitors to the Shaykh was the Russian teacher George Gurdjieff. Having recently arrived in Turkey, the knowledge of these Nine Points was opened to you through it. The vision was by the blessings of the verse: ’Peace! a Word (of salutation) from a Lord Most Merciful’ [36:58]." -Naqshbandi website "Each of the Nine Points is represented by one of nine Saints who are at the Highest Level in the Divine Presence. They are the keys to the untold powers within man, but there is no permission to use these keys. This is a secret that in general will not be opened until the Last Days when the Mahdi (as) appears and Jesus (as) returns."-Shaykh Abdullah Faiz al Daghestani Al-Naqshbandi "This meeting of ours has been blessed. Keep it as a secret in your heart and don’t speak of it in this life. `Abd an-Nur, for that is your name with us, you are free to stay or go as your responsibilities allow. You are always welcome with us. You have attained safety in the Divine Presence. May Allah bless you and strengthen you in your work". -Shaykh Abdullah Faiz al Daghestani Al-Naqshbandi

Idries Shah, a populariser of Sufism, has claimed that the enneagram has a Sufi provenance and that it has also been long known in coded form disguised as an octagram.[4] Another claim to a Sufi provenance is offered by the Sufi Enneagram website.[5] The archives of the Naqshbandi Sufi order of Daghestan have been claimed to provide an account of a meeting between Gurdjieff and Shaykh Sharafuddin Daghestani in which the secret of the nine points was transmitted to Gurdjieff.[6]

As a 1, I would have expected you to use punctuation and complete sentences.

@@stalstonestacy4316 Good news: 1s don't exist: "It's easy to see that the divisions are rather arbitrary, with a large dash of vagueness and overlap between the categories. Like any personality test, the more vague it is, the more susceptible to the Forer effect it is. The enneagram is not generally considered to be of any value by mainstream psychologists." rationalwiki.org/wiki/Enneagram "Unless you've done graduate work in psychometrics, the scientific data probably doesn't mean a whole lot to you (which is why there are two parts to this article). For those who have studied psychometrics, it's a no-brainer that the enneagram simply cannot do all its proponents claim it can. Any scientist who studies personality would simply look at the reliability scores and conclude the test is not accurate enough to be helpful, and therefore, they wouldn't use it because the potential for harm will be too high." www.jaymedenwaldt.com/2019/01/the-enneagram-science-and-christianity.html?m=1

Very true

He’s speaking the gospel, calm down!

Less is Best you’re a 1.