So I finally got around to watching Enola Holmes, starring Millie Bobby Brown and Henry Cavill, and well... it wasn't quite what I was hoping for. So I thought I'd review it before I completely forget what I even saw.
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You gotta love the irony. All those female characters seemingly have the same pattern of "I'm better in every way than my male counter part, but men just swoop in to take the credit they didn't earn", while at the same time, those characters were created specifically due to the male counter part's popularity, so that they can... swoop in to take the credit they didn't earn...
@@AGPostarStudios and that infamous, truly backasswards video on “what are white people superior at”. The participants literally say shit like “having fun, which upholds white supremacy!” It is the ultimate cringe fest, friend.
If "Enola Holmes" feels like bad fanfiction, that's because it was written by Jack Thorne, one of the writers of the Harry Potter fanfiction-esque "Cursed Child" play.
@@CMDParodies i imagine there's alot of plagiarism and people in positions of power taking credit for others work in the writing industry, or at least attaching themselves temporarily to more talented co-workers to grift off their success. Thats my explanation for hacks who got their start in GOOD shows.
because they needed *some* kind of "evil man keeping her down" crap to pad things out and pretty much all they had for Mycroft was a name and that was it.
Mycroft was my favorite. Probably the most balanced of the brothers. Sherlock had to solve everything, yet Mycroft knew you didn't have to solve everything.
Modern day "writers" can only create strong wahmen by dumbing down all male characters. A character like Ellen Ripley or Sarah Conner is so far out of their limited grasp that this is the best they can do. They also totally lack originality and deep down inside they know they lack talent, so they insert their characters into already established storylines. Nobody would care about a female detective in the late 1800's, but a "forgotten" sister of the famous Sherlock Holmes might draw attention. At least that is what they hope. So enter Enola Holmes. They probably didn't dare to dumb down Sherlock too much, so they sacrificed Mycroft to be the "evil" brother. I guess for these writers it's elementary.
The books are great, fun reading. Sherlock admits that Mycroft is more intellectually gifted. But Myrcoft is lazy (he's actually obese) and has no interest in doing any hard legwork, whereas Sherlock is always out and about, like a hunting animal. Sherlock could be such a fun character to play and Cavill did a bland job, as usual. If he wasn't so good looking and didn't have a nice British accent, more people would see that he barely scratches the surface of his characters.
I'm actually surprised by how much restraint they actually showed sure this character is pointless and unnecessary and tries to undo things that didn't need undoing but at least they didn't try to kick dirt and ruin characters just for the sake of it. I mean yeah mycroft (I probably misspelled that but I'm not looking it up) comes off like a pompous prick but who cares at least Sherlock himself was given the proper respect. too bad the rest of this gibberish is just a bunch of revisionist nonsense. But if they want to play fast and loose with history I don't care. I still remember someone somewhere I was at some point asking if the dragons in that Matt Damon Chinese movie were real yeah that's where we are these days.
I love it when the shop keeper says "Politics doesn't interest you because you have no interest in changing a world that suits you so well." to the guy that dedicates his life to fighting crime, and making the world a safer place
Well that sums up the modern age perfectly doesn't it, too busy lecturing people while being full of themselves while most of the time the people they're talking to know far more about the actual topic then them.
In the books, Mycroft, the smarter brother, works almost exclusively with the government to foil international plots and avert wars while Sherlock is catching pickpockets. And unlike Sherlock he does so behind the scenes as an almost complete unknown, seeking no fame of any kind.
After that line, I became convinced that Henry Cavill just wanted a paycheck for this role. Cavill is actually a really cool guy who doesn't give a shit about politics and just wants to focus on his hobbies: gaming and acting. So this project does not fit him at all. My guess is that this movie was kinda made when the Covid shutdowns were starting, and Cavill just wanted a paycheck before production on films completely halted. There's no way he would've done it otherwise. And no offense I can't blame him. His role as superman was basically put in an indefinite hiatus, and because his role as DCEU superman wasn't well developed, the other studios don't see the talent he has and don't give him as many opportunities as other actors. I think I would've done the same thing.
One of the most endearing aspects of the books, is the fact that whenever Sherlock has trouble with a case, he goes to his brother for advice. And Mycroft is portrayed as an unbelievable talent that’s been ruined by Opium addiction. Butchering the original character to fit the feminist narrative is just unforgivable.
If anyone is crippled by an opium addiction, it's Sherlock, not Mycroft. I don't consider any of the two more intelligent than the other, I think the difference lies in their life philosophy: Sherlock uses his intellect only when a worthwhile challenge arise, Mycroft uses it constantly for personal gain (or well, for governmental gain, but it's his career, so I consider it personal)
The dumb thing is, is that the books this is based on didn't do that. Mycroft was exactly the genius he was in the original stories. His main issue with Enola was that even compared to Sherlock, he barely knew her (what with being decades older than her) and regarded her more as an obligation he'd rather sort out so he can get on with his job. Sherlock meanwhile cared about her & wanted her to be safe, but didn't really understand her, because he has likewise only met her a handful of times prior to this. Another thing they cut was Dr Watson, whose stories were how Enola knew about Sherlock and who's humanising friendship is implied to be one of the reasons Sherlock cares more than Mycroft. Which if you think about is just odd. It is specifically mentioned that before Watson, Sherlock wasn't exactly famous, so how is Enola reading about him in the paper, when is no Watson to put his story out there?
@@6581punk And why wouldn't they? When you say positive things about something, the people who agree are delighted, and the people who disagree will just be like "meh". When you say negative things about someone's favorite show though, oh now you've pissed him off. That's why some critics are total snakes, because they understand this
There already was a woman who outsmarted Sherlock in the original stories: Irene Adler. He even praised her for it. More recent adaptations have sexualized her and indicated that the two were in love. Can't a man be impressed with a woman without being attracted to her or related to her?
can't really be helped since she uses her feminine wiles to complement her innate cunning for deceiving people, that is, her sexuality. it is true, however, that sherlock's respect for her is professional in nature.
Naturally the father is dead, we can't have a father figure polluting the narrative with things like a strong, compassionate, caring, loving, nurturing and present male role model.
Even casting that aside, the narrative is stupid. It's like Enola has mommy issues and can't be 2 sec. without mommy coz she don't know how to keep herself busy. Mommy playing hide and seek Young Adult novel version and Enola throws a temper tantrum when Sherlock suggests to look in the kitchen. That's basically the entire story.
@@reginaphalange9417 having the literal father by biology and marriage present does in fact seem to be kryptonite to today's narrative for both girls and boys.
"Let's give Holmes a long lost sister who's as smart as he is!!" *fans of the books*: what about the woman who was already Holmes's equal and he admired her, some adaptations hinting that he fell in love with her? "Long lost sister it is!!"
Anything beginning with "let's bring in a long lost..." is doomed from the start. It's a sunday morning hangover bad idea spit out by the lowest wagered writer of "Happy Days"
@@VaderPopsVicodin10 Yep. You know, I could forgive them for being in a job where they can get away with big paychecks without doing much (I can't say I wouldn't do that if I was in that position), as long as they're not working for the state because then they'd be stealing from everyone else. What I can't forgive is them giving proud speeches about how original they are, or how important their writing is for diversity or whatever, and then giving each other awards to social consciousness (let's face it, that's what the Emmys and Oscars are nowadays).
The worst thing is that Irene Adler is never depicted that way. They zero in on Holmes potentially being in love with her (would've never worked out even if he was) and make her sexy, in the Guy Ritchie movies she was a sexy criminal and in the Sherlock TV show she was a dominatrix. So... yeah. Feminism, amirite?
I find it hilarious that they also put a statue of Charles Dickens sister next to him. Even though her education was the one the parents spend the most money on and underfunded his.
They talk about revision history without reading it well first. Also, Charles Dickens is the last person you can hate "as a guy who had it better because he was a guy and not a girl".
Oof, I remember on Twitter under the very tweet someone tried to argue about how Charles Dickens ruined his sister's chance to get famous, despite the very fact that not only the sister got all the attention and help, but Charles had to do child labor just to fund her studies. Then again, the person also thought the sister wrote books, when it was stated that she was a pianist, so... Moments like these make you realise these people do not read history, just see a famous man with a sister that didn't get famous and cry about patriarchy...
Charles Dickens... he was a socialist. I know his Scrooge is a Christmas classic but the entire idea of the movie is: money is bad. Be free money!! Sounds nice in theory.... but in practice it's like Venezuela. It becomes a free for all coz nobody has eaten anything in like a month and the crisis creates an exodus of people fleeing the poverty and starvation. And you still wonder why the USSR had to put up Berlin's wall?....
@@stijnvdv2 You mean like Venezuela with all the US sanctions? You must be one of the ppl the other commenters talked about, someone that doesn't knows what they're talking about but still has the need to shout out. Clearly shows.
@@stijnvdv2 Dickens left school to work in a Victorian factory because his father was in debtor's prison. I'm not surprised he had some misgivings about the financial system of the time - but that doesn't make him a socialist! Not all concerns about inequality are socialist.
@Char Aznable It's hypocrisy on their part to say that men shouldn't define women and then go on and say women can define men. There's no equality in that.
That was such a weird line I was watching it with my three year old and she's enjoying it hyped at the fight scenes being cute, and all of the sudden you hear this bullshit line and are reminded people brain wash children constantly lol
Hilariously, one of those statues (or at the very least a post online connected to the film’s ad campaign) also attacked author Mark Twain, by showcasing his lesser known sister. But then people looked up the history and found out that his sister was essentially given a ton of support and privilege in her education and career over her brother, who had to struggle and raise himself in order to get where he was. So it inadvertently highlighted Mark Twain’s successes even more - as a writer who had to work hard in order to get where he was - over a sister that was given far more and thus had to struggle less.
@@brezzendorf For context: The sister (Pamela Ann Clemens) was the second child, with an older brother - and Mark being the 5th and second-to-last child of the family. The brother was the main source of income for a time through occupation like newspaper after the father died, while the sister was accomplished in piano. Several of the siblings before Mark (but after the eldest brother and sister) died early in life, and Mark Twain took much smaller jobs than either of his siblings. It wasn't until much later when Mark Twain gained success with his novels did he become the family's support. This was a case where the eldest siblings had more support, and although the first born son was held to a the highest standard for the role he played - the sister still received support that was better than what Mark Twain received. As far as I learned she at least had a proper education, whereas her brother either didn't have much or received it later in life. She also lived a far easier life when compared to either of her brothers, with the eldest having several failed jobs. Also I should add that, as far as I could learn, there was no bad blood between them. The sister cared for her brother and maintained good contact throughout their lives.
@@brezzendorf I'm Dutch and I happen to know that the Dutch author Multatuli was feminist and made sure his niece got the best education she could receive and was an inspiration to first wave feminists over here.
I watched about 10 minutes of this, and I was under the impression that this was just a movie targeted at 10 year old girls. It makes sense that it was based on a series of "young adult" books.
it sounds like a pornstars name, she'll get to the bottom of.........the case no.....your pants, or a female knock off of John Holmes seeing as everyone has a female version or "sister/extended family that was never mentioned"
The problem I have with films like this is that the people who make them dont know how to portray how people really were back then, not a single character in this film accurately portrays what the British were like, also this bullshit about life being easier if you are a man? Almost every man and women in the entire country were desperately poor and overworked with no regulations or laws in place to really protect any rights you had. Back then you could be executed for stealing some bread.
You won't killed but you were sent off to Australia like my 3rd great grandmother was lol. But yeah I'm sick of movies giving characters modern sensibilities and attitudes when in reality people were rather conservative and even the feminists of victorias time would seem like right wingers in today's society
She's a sassy, independent minded middle class woman, sent off to prep school by her well-to-do family in order to curtail her feminist aspirations - Does she end up writing op-eds for the Guardian?
Not at first. But with her girlfriend's (m)oral support, she overcomes the patriarchy and gets a Pulitzer. She then gets tenure at Harvard teaching 'lesbian dance theory' , thus, changing the world for the better.
"Im gonna write a story and it's gonna be about Sherlock Holmes sister and she's like super smart and stuff, and much cooler and better and awesomer than Sherlock, and better at solving crimes and stuff and it's gonna be so great" Congrats people on Wattpad, you have all the qualifications to write for Hollywood.
It's the classic lazy writing that aims to redeem itself via getting some *cough cough* "feminism browny points." Nothing wrong with feminism, but literally 90% of modern sequals/spinoffs with female leads have no original story, just piggy-backing on an existing series with a gender swap.
sorry, i don't want to be rude to you or anything, I m just saying that there are some actually good writer on wattpad, so please don't demean them unnecessarily.
Props to that guy who plays all the creepy weirdos. You’re right that he gets type casted a lot, but he always brings his A game to the job. He’s a pretty good actor. Really sells the whole “creepy weirdo” thing. I like to think he’s just a super nice dude in real life.
Ju Jitsu black belt here. The Japanese didn’t teach Westerners in the 19th Century, and Ju Jitsu teaching had been banned fir hundreds of years for people who weren’t Samurai class. That a black woman, or white man, would be teaching JJ in that time is farcical.
Now explain to me, that scene was Jiu Jitsu or Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, because if was the second option, it's even worse. BJJ was development in the 20s and only got popular around the world in the 90s
I love that the only black character in the movie was literally used a mouthpiece against Sherlock Holmes of all people, and promptly disappeared for the entire runtime after this scene.
Just checking those checkmarks. It's like those little PSAs they used to put at the end of cartoon episodes, except this is a movie and it's right in the middle of it.
Fair enough. I know that this is a movie about Sherlock's sister, but I wish that he didn't seem like almost an afterthought, for a famous literacy character.
It reminds me of that TV series the Alienist were Daniel Bruhl and Luke Evans are useless while the female side character is the useful and stronger one esp. on season two which the female side character became the center of the story instead of Daniel Bruhl which is the main character of the show.
Right, dude is good in everything I've seen him in, even Immortals, he'd be a better Holmes than Benedict Cumberbatch, or Robert Downey Jr, or fucking Will Ferrell. That was a fucked up abomination, that the writers estate should've never let happen.
It also showed that Millie Bobbie Brown is a very talented actress. Her performance alone made that movie far better than it had any right to be, she actually made a blatant feminist fanfiction character likable. In the end, it's gonna be a minor footnote of her career.
"Like the idea of a jiu-jitsu fighting academy for women in nineteenth century London, run by a sassy black lady, who totally schools Sherlock about racial and sexual inequality." Jesus fuck. I already knew not to watch this one, but god DAMN that sounds agonizing for... everybody.
Well yea, but from the review it appears pretty inocuous and we arn't the target audience. If it appeals to female teens, no skin off my nose if they enjoy it.
To be honest here it was no different to the many scify stories placed in Edwardian and Victorian periods. Think Doctor Who... I guess history is not always potraited in the way it really happened.
They had Henry Cavill signed to play Sherlock Holmes, the most famous detective in fiction besides Batman, and yet the focus of the film was on the titular character of a fanfiction novel series. Amazing.
To play devils advocate I guarantee they only landed Cavill because Sherlock wasn't the focus of the film. I imagine his pay demands would be ridiculous if he starred as Sherlock as opposed to being a side character
Hahahaha. I didn't really process that until now... I mean THE Henry Cavill... they could have ditched this and said let's use this opportunity since we have Cavill but they said "Nah, it'll be fine."
@@CamMackay96 Then pay the man. He’s a proven box office draw and has a massively loyal following. They’d make a ton more money with him as the main character.
When's the movie about Genghis Kahn's unknown but secretly more influential, younger sister. The one that actually united asia and kept GK from embarrassing himself because he's just a silly male.
Little you knew that Stalin and Hitler themselves had a little (black) sisters that basically were shadow power instead of their goofy useless brothers. Watch it in the new Netflix series - Hitlerella vs Stalinella.
I was a big Sherlock Holmes fan when I was a kid, read the whole canon and a fair amount of spin off novels by other authors. Young Sherlock Holmes, The Baker Street Irregulars, House of Silk, Moriarty, etc. I read the first Enola book and never read another one. It was really tedious and focused more on how unfair life was as a woman at the time than the mystery. And the mystery wasn't that gripping in the first place. So...sounds like the movie was a pretty faithful adaption XD Btw if you're interested I highly recommend "The House of Silk" by Anthony Horowitz. It's a really good Sherlock Holmes story that reads like it was written by Doyle. It's also one of the few non-canon stories endorsed by the Arthur Conan Doyle estate.
Pandering soulless Hollywood suit 1: "Hey, what if we took a recognizable character...and made them a female?" Pandering soulless Hollywood suit 2: "You son of a bitch, you've done it again!" (High fives and coke sniffing)
Yup, so Sherlock's brother is still the smartest in this movie, he tried to get rid of that kid ASAP. Unlike Sherlock himself who was still trying to figure out if that girl was worth saving.
that wouldn't be sherlock, that would be "buck" holmes. The long lost, sister's, cousin's, brother's, former roomate, who just took the holmes name after running into holmes and being told to fuck off, then by some miracle was standing by when the local mayor was shot by a ghost and then wandered off into the desert, and when asked his name by a passerby, "buck", "buck" holmes. cause "plot".
One of the strengths of a streaming service, is it should make shows for everyone because the algorithms should be able to tailor a playlists that you are going to like. Yet despite having this massive competitive advantage, Netflix craps all over it by making sure every show is 100% woke and ignoring viewers who don't want that.
This always happens, hell even Velma got a 2nd season. They make this crap that nobody likes but because it's trendy and woke and twitter likes it they think it'll be really popular.
They literally have their own "Sherlock Holmes" I grew up with tons of Nancy drew books, but don't let that stop these people ruining a different, already established IP
I counted zero. I've noticed most people in the comment section didn't even watch the movie, because Enola was actually raised to hate men, but realised after actually meeting and getting to know one that she was wrong.
@@kirikakirikakirika I watched it - and your point of view is definitely further from truth then people you criticize. The amount of man mocking and strawman argument made that movie frankly unwatchable. Not to mention polluting Doyle's legacy by turning both Sherlock and Mycroft into generic likeable/unlikeable half-wits. If Nancy Springer wanted to write her women supremacy novel, she could've done that by creating an original series in world in her own right, not abusing someone else's work.
@@dennikstandard It's called a pastiche, and Sherlock has been in _many_ of them, including works written by men other than Conan Doyle. It didn't abuse his work, it _respected_ it. Have you read the books? I have. The only character that was significantly changed (when it comes to intellect, anyway) was Mycroft, but they kept his overwhelming laziness, elitist attitude, and short temper. That's genuinely what Mycroft is like. In the books, he and Sherlock don't get along very well specifically _because_ Mycroft is political and Sherlock is not. Watson even describes Sherlock's knowledge of politics as "feeble". Believe it or not, Sherlock doesn't know _everything._ That said, Sherlock isn't at all turned into a "half-wit". This is what makes me think you haven't watched the movie, or at least not the whole thing. He in fact knows exactly where Enola is and where she's going to be, and he _encourages_ her to keep running. Remember, Sherlock is _also_ unconventional, especially for his time period. Yet he's still considered the smartest character in the story (Enola even says this), and he becomes her _mentor._ That's right, a _man_ becomes her mentor. Women supremacy? Care to give an example? Because the main villain was a woman (actually, _several_ women were villains), and Enola's mother's methods for change were blatantly portrayed as _wrong._ Enola was raised to hate men, but after meeting Tewkesbury she learns to abandon her misandry. Yes, she initially believes he's useless, stupid, and pitiful, but after spending some time with him, she realises he's actually resourceful, intelligent, and kind. She ends up working _with_ him, not against him. The movie even emphasis that men and women _need each other._ So I'm not sure what you're taking about. Moreover, Enola is based on a real-life woman named Mary Grace Quackenbos, who was literally nicknamed "Mrs. Sherlock Holmes" in the early 1900's.
Feminists: let's create strong independent and new female characters Also Feminists: let's ret-con characters that ride off the success of their male counterparts
Yeah, isn't this basically the same kind of "Lady Thor" or "Nostalgia Chick" style stuff they used to dislike because it made female characters that were just riding on the coattails of men?
@@thatgirlinautumn5995 right, why not create a new character? A brilliant woman and an amazing detective, like Miss Marple, capable of standing up to a world dominated by men?
Also Feminists: Because we want decades of fandom and success right now! No more waiting! Industry: But...then you're not doing it yourself, you're just hijacking somebody else's franchise and putting yourselves in it. Feminists: We would've been in it if the patriarchy hadn't shut us out, so we're getting payback with interest motherfucker! Industry: So this is about revenge. Feminists: No, it's about justice! Industry: You just said it was about revenge. Feminists: No we didn't. Industry: Yes you did. Feminists: No we didn't. Industry: Yes you-...you said 'payback', that's revenge. Feminists: No it's-...okay FINE! It's about revenge! Ya happy now?!
Sherlock Holmes admits that his brother was the smarter of the two. He was also able to figure things out and solve mysteries. And he solved mysteries with less footwork.
The single scene that pissed me the most was the final scene when Sherlock figured everything out but then the officer told him how he was beaten by Enola She was told by the villain after she was suspecting the wrong guy and he figured everything out around the same time without even talking to any of the suspects which is way more impressive
yes i agree that it's more impressive but how would he know that? all he knows is that elona carried in the bad guy first. what i took from that scene is that elona figured out as far as the unlce but missed a key detail that sherlock noticed showing us the viewers that she still has much further to go. but he was indeed correct in saying that elona beat him to it because she did. honestly the real question is why would that even bother you? it's not like elona was going around boasting that she was better than sherlock and that she uncovered that it was the grandmother, she figured out 95% of it and the other 5% revealed itself when she took action. let go of your bias and anger.
@@datname1939 Enola sucks and she’s just a female version of Sherlock, except less smart. Irene was smarter than Sherlock himself, yet Enola is the “girlboss”?
@@t1mburt0nsdandruff you essentially just wrote you're biased. I don't care or said anything about her being a girl boss. Honestly I don't even really remember how this show goes.
@@datname1939 there was nothing I wrote that said I’m biased. I’m not even a Sherlock fan, but this show is just dumb and proves that modern writers can’t come up with anything new or good so they just make a female version of a male character.
I'm a Wattpad fanfic writer and I'm not offended. However, I need to point out none of the stories I've read in Wattpad is as bullshit as THIS. Except for those BTS fanfics which I just look at the cover, name, and said "why the fuck is this here" and moved on.
They could have gone with, say, Irene Adler and make her the “badass Victorian woman, whose story is interwoven with Holmes”, but hey, modern female empowerment cinema is contractually obligated to take an established male character and shit all over it, so what could they really do?
My thought exactly. They don't even know the material well enough to realize that they already had a clever, dangerous, self-actualizing, globe-trotting independent woman, in Doyle's original stories. Then they'll pat themselves on the back for fixing that ol' white dude's outdated work.
Remember Joan of Arc's younger, better looking, more influential brother who was way cooler and badass? Remember that dude? Let's make a movie about him
And considering Joan was more of a spiritual leader than a tactical one and was abandoned by the king the moment she was captured,it's not so much a woman to be inspired by.
@@spudeleven5124 Shit, allow me to reiterate: Can't wait to see a movie that depicts a woman being the first who went into space instead of Yuri Gagarin
@@David-iv6je Wouldnt think of enola holmes as wild-ass fiction, if the setting is the "real world". So if it wants to portray victiorian england it should be held accountable to at least a bit of historical accuracy. No matter how far fiction is apart from the real world, the thing that makes it approachable is its inherent logic and structure and fans just dont like if this inherent logic and structure is violated. Without this there would be no coherent narrative, and thats just messy and uninteresting
"If a girl is truly strong, she just is and is admired for it. If a girl claims she is strong and men are oppressing her, she is both weak and not oppressed." - Mongolian Proverb
@@theextracrispycolonel9504 After the Great Apocalypse, a book of your sayings will form the basis of the New Order. All Hail The Extra Crispy Colonel.
The funny thing is that, the secret judo school was kinda real. The Suffragettes did, in fact, trained Jiu Jitsu in secret to fight against the police during protests.
I did the same because my gf wanted to watch it. It is not so bad really. If you do not expect much you will not be disappointed and I mean that in a good way. I have seen way worse over the past years.
Basically anything written by Agatha Christie then would make a better film. But, oh no we can't adapt her works because they are a product of their time and contain cultural baggage.
@@fran3ro No joke Miss Marple is a legitimately enjoyable character, at least in the books. I love how cynical, cool minded, impartial and ruthless she is, how she's mainly driven by her sterling sense of justice and righteousness (the genuine kind, not this social justice nonsense), and how she's still so genuinely humble and likeable. When Mr. Rafiel half-jokingly spoke of her as the modern incarnation of the goddess Nemesis, it seemed fitting. Also I always got to smirk when she pulls off her "I'm just a feeble trembling old gossip hen grandma with early signs of dementia" act to get information.
Old Disney, fairytales, mythology, etc were full of stories where the women always solved problems with their intelligence and kindness but fast forward and femininity is seen as weak and makes women doormats so that’s why they all fight and are super aggressive
To be fair, despite her skills she gets her (edit: talking about Enola Holmes, not Ripley) ass kinda handed to her by a guy that is less skilled, but is much bigger and stronger. Just like what happens in the real world.
Nope. In Alien she uses her extant knowledge of the ship to plan her escape along with Lambert and Parker, and when that goes awry, again, her engineering skills to set the scuttling charge. Then she improvises a method to kill the Alien onboard the Narcissus. In Aliens, she's taught how to use the pulse rifle, and already knows (again, there's that pesky, already well-developed backstory/skill) how to use the powerloader. She had tools, desperation, and the ability to improvise weapons and tactics.
I'd recommend the ITV Sherlock Holmes series starring Jeremy Brett. They are mostly very faithful to the original stories and Jeremy Brett is exactly how you imagine the character from the books.
I keep thinking of the plane that dropped the nuke. A plane that also had the word Gay in its name.... ...so discount Natalie Portman is probably gay I'm guessing
That person would no longer be a "great person" because if they were a female they wouldn't have had the same life experiences that lead up to them becoming a great man.
I legit said the same thing out loud. I don’t want female counter parts to great men. I just want great woman in their own space, like Ellen Ripley...ah well
Also if we did wonder that we have Nancy Drew. No need to gender swap when you can just write the story you are looking for. That’s the beauty of fiction!
Mycroft is my favourite character in the books since he's by far the more capable and intelligent of the two Holmes brothers. Why they did this to him I will never know. Well I do know, but why you'd want to ruin Mycroft to push a dumb and innacurate political line is beyond me.
I consider it a privilege to even be arguing over something as petty and pathetic as "racial privileges" instead of "What am I going to feed my children next week" or "How am I going to cope with this loss" or maybe "Why was I born in this terrible war ravaged country" Seriously you think you have struggled in your life? You have it easy. Be thankful for what you have, not jealous/angry for what you don't. Even I have it easy, and I'm broke, have little education, have struggled with depression, cant hold a job for more than a month, and have never even been in a relationship. I'm a loser but I still have it better than some people in this world, and you wont find me being a fucking petty racist when all souls are equal in God's eyes. - A Random White Male
@@justanuff If you want to be serious about something, use that for a small thing. Because if you approach something important whithout a degree of humor-you will fail at it. I learned that from a great victorian english writer G. K. Chesterton.
@@justanuff so true, we should be grateful for the good things we do have. And hang in there man, things will improve for you, keep up a good attitude.
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I remember watching this movie with my girlfriend. That was fun. I was like "Why does she feel the need to constantly tell me she is better in every way than me as a male?" I was kinda pissed of halfway through. It was hard to make it through this one. Only good thing for me was at the end she actually understands that men aren't all bad. Despite the movie sadly telling us something different all the time. Just imagine the roles being switched and there was a young bratty boy who constantly tells the audience how shitty women are. I wonder what people would have to say about that one..
"Why does she feel the need to constantly tell me she is better in every way than me as a male?" There are so many people here who say stuff like that, and that really makes me question whether you have actually watched the movie, because she never says anything like that.
@@swagromancer "show don't tell" after watching review, I won't commit to full agreement with Patrick, but in most of these instances the CHARACTER isn't necessarily telling you this but you can watch what happens and the movie is telling you. For instance, the common trope of the bumbling or stupid father has actually generated backlash because it did happen and the show didn't necessarily need to (though many maybe did) "you're dumb dad, I can't trust you or male authority and it's better that you NOT be the leader in this house."
@@theflyingkaramazovbrothers6 The only "bumbling" male character in this movie is Enola's companion, the Viscount Tewkesbury. And that's because he lead a privileged, sheltered life until he ran away from home. That's characterization - you know, the things stories are supposed to do. And even he isn't a complete idiot, just inexperienced, and he learns quickly. I don't know how it would be possible to watch this movie and come away with "Enola thinks she's better than all men" - unless you approach it with an already established bias and ignore everything else.
@@swagromancer i was giving an example from popular culture and media, not referring directly to this film. It was to illustrate a point about how a piece of media can convey a point, either subtly or overtly.
@@bemotivated8443 No and no. It pretty faithful to the books, Mycroft is usually portraited as unassuming and unmotivated but is actually pretty smart and could rival Sherlock. Sherlock is still the main character.
When is the Miss Marples reboot starring Sylvester Stallone with lots of action and guns. It sounds stupid but that exactly what these films are ... taking the original franchise and corrupting it beyond recognition!
The Sherlock Holmes stories are amazingly modern and gritty. I mean Sherlock has a pipe for when he’s high on cocaine and a separate pipe for when he’s not. It’s pretty crazy that probably the most true to the literature portrayal of Holmes is, in a lot of ways, the Guy Ritchie movies. Holmes does go into these depressions in the stories when he’s bored and locks himself in his room, shooting cocaine, conducting bat shit experiences, being filthy... It’s pretty great.
"...When You smell the smoke and the cinders just slick back your hair and open up your case play Cherokee Fiddle and play it for the whiskey cause good whiskey never lets you lose your place." - Michael Martin Murphy (Writer) Johnny Lee (Singer) (Release Date October 4 1982).
If she wants to blend in with men, then let her swap clothes into a uniform and head for the Crimea or India or S. Africa or where ever else the Empire was fighting at the time. I'm sure she'd enjoy blending in with the fellows at Islandwana or even Rorke's Drift.
Because knowing how these movies go, she'd be tasked with single-handedly winning the war. "Historical" fact: all wars have had women fighting in them, and they weren't just there as prostitutes but elite warriors that won the wars while men were too busy being misogynists.
@@crookshanks1454 I encourage you to go look at actual Victorian times rather than just movies supposedly set in the time. Women had a huge amount of influence and power, though it was mostly behind the scenes. However, I'm guessing you think 'The Handmaid's Tale' is a documentary of some kind and any response you come up with, if any, will be just as idiotic and poorly written as this one.
I've never heard of this movie, the young adult novels, or anything related to any of this. I consider this lack of awareness to be proof that I'm doing something right.
@Char Aznable eh i feel like a daughter could be more interesting, u know it would be heart-warming and interesting seeing Holmes raise his own daughter. in his way, u know like the xmen Logan we can get a bubbling love for the character and she can carry on with his mantle. and at the end sherlock dies and we can start a new adventure with his daughter. it representation DONE RIGHT, honouring the pervious character and at his time creating room for the new generation.
@Char Aznable yeah I agree but entertainment isn’t limited to just entertaining they could inform, educate, inspire etc. It Isn’t mandatory and it not an artist job to do those things but that doesn’t mean they shouldn’t
The female archer trope is such a historical fallacy. Turns out using a warbow took an OBSCENE amount of strength to the point that archeologists found that British bowmen often had one arm longer and beefier then the other from how extensive they trained.
If a woman had to do battle, I imagine she would've been better off with a spear to keep enemies out of reach and just poke them to death. Spears are way less cool than swords, but far more useful in warfare, which is why I believe Hollywood always has characters ditch the spear and pull out the sword as soon as possible.
@@LordBaktor You know what would be even more awesome? A fucking HALBERD! Yeah, it's got all the tools you need to get some killin' done in the times of swords and shields. You got your spear point, your axe blade, and a hammer end (sometimes another spear point or crescent blade). Yeah, I want to see a whole movie with someone using that weapon in a badass way. :D
A halberd or glaive would be the ideal melee weapon for a woman to use if she really had to fight. The way it's built allows you to use your lower body to do most of the heavy lifting, which makes the lack of upper body strength much less of a problem. Hence why the wives of Samurai were trained in how to use the naginata to defend their homes in times of war. Of course, the real reason behind the "female archer" trope is so that female characters can fight without having to show them being hit in melee, which nobody (outside of a few depraved perverts) wants to watch.
If you mean Welsh-originating longbow, that is true, as it was essentially lifetime training. But not every bow is 1.7m long, composite (yeah, two types of wood were used) bow.
Was told by friends that I’d like this movie. When I told them that I don’t want to watch a female version of Sherlock Holmes, they looked all “shocked.” Unlike them, I’m a real fan of the stories and grew up reading the books.
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I was browsing through Netflix and looking at how female-dominated a lot of the new releases are and thought the same thing. "A woman could have been the world's greatest chess player!" "Yeah, could have...but that was actually Bobby Fischer." "Yeah but it could have been a woman!" "Yeah."
As a jujitsu practitioner, I didn't like how they made jujitsu into the "wonder martial art". Yes, it's a fantastic form of grappling; but like everything, it takes a lot of practice and constant training. Learning moves doesn't make one invincible. "I know jujitsu..." "So?"
I'd also like to argue that the vast majority of the world didn't know jiu Jitsu was a thing before the 1st UFC in the 1990's when the Gracies showed it off, a little bit after Sherlock's time period.
In Victorian and Edwardian times there were Japanese who toured Europe giving public displays of Jujitsu. There was also a guy called Barton who [claimed he] had studied it in Japan and invented his own style called Bartitsu. It was all the rage back in those days, which is why Conan-Doyle made Sherlock Holmes a Bartitsu expert.
Thank you for pointing out the mixed messages. There's a huge disconnect with depicting diverse characters in positons of power while preaching about how oppressed they are, especially in historical settings,
