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Enterprise vs Reliant - Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan 

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Ricardo Montalban first played KHAN NOONIEN SINGH in the 1967 Star Trek TV episode "Space Seed." Having a budget of only 1/3 the original motion picture, Wrath of Khan is considered one of the best Star Trek movies, with music by James Horner.

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@douglaslally156
@douglaslally156 6 лет назад
Factoid: Ricardo Montalban volunteered to discount his salary to 100K so the film's budget could accommodate all the expensive FX features it needed. He enjoyed playing Khan so much the role wasn't about money for him.
@gracien2008
@gracien2008 5 лет назад
If you really ENJOY and like what you do... you will never work a day in your life... R.I.P Ricardo Montalban.
@THE-HammerMan
@THE-HammerMan 5 лет назад
Douglas Lally I did not know this! Thanks...and RIP RM.
@Diskoboy1974
@Diskoboy1974 5 лет назад
I wouldn't blame him either. Up to that point he was known as either Mr. Roarke from Fantasy Island or the man who hocked 'fine Corinthian leather' for Chrysler. Returning as Khan made him a legend. He really played an excellent villain. He hit it big again a few years later as the villian in The Naked Gun. An audience loves to see a normally good man play someone evil.
@mayamanign
@mayamanign 5 лет назад
@@Diskoboy1974 Lol he had been in movies for decades, he was fine.
@atrociousconsequences4432
@atrociousconsequences4432 5 лет назад
All he wanted was his vengeance on William Shatner ?
@Endeva09
@Endeva09 4 года назад
Whether you’re a Trekkie or not, I honestly believe this is one of the best movies ever made, an absolute masterpiece.
@moltenamber85
@moltenamber85 Год назад
Agreed as someone who is more a fan of the first 6 Star Wars movies. There ARE five original timeline Trek movies I really like, however.
@michaelvaughn8864
@michaelvaughn8864 Год назад
Totally agreed
@mikewetzel6788
@mikewetzel6788 Год назад
If anyone asks me my favorite movie I have decided that THIS one will Always be my answer.
@theessentials450
@theessentials450 Год назад
Makes no sense or impact to a non-trekkie. I would not attend a baseball game as I hate baseball.
@marshall9886
@marshall9886 Год назад
The best hero bad guy movie ever. Close second is die hard and John wick original.
@JacobiusNH80
@JacobiusNH80 Год назад
That epic score! R.I.P. James Horner. legend
@filmmusicguy26
@filmmusicguy26 Год назад
I know right. I fell in love with music because of him.
@stargazer467
@stargazer467 Год назад
Truly. Without it.... Static.
@stevealikonis9467
@stevealikonis9467 Год назад
yes one of the best scores ever!
@marvelstarwarsgeek1511
@marvelstarwarsgeek1511 Год назад
Hear hear amazing soundtrack one of my most listened to
@MORE1500
@MORE1500 Год назад
The music at 9:22 reminds me of the opening score to Mysterious Island.
@DylansPen
@DylansPen Год назад
Hard to believe Kirstie Allie is gone now. Love this movie.
@davidhazel5854
@davidhazel5854 Год назад
I was sorry when they replaced her in the next film.
@dwmzmm
@dwmzmm Год назад
@@davidhazel5854 Read that she demanded a huge raise to be on the next Star Trek movie, was told to take a hike (they got someone else to play her part).
@davidhazel5854
@davidhazel5854 Год назад
@@dwmzmm Because she asked for a higher fee for the sequel, or because she was a woman asking for a higher fee? Plenty of male actors have done that, and been rehired at a higher fee.
@MagicAl5F4781
@MagicAl5F4781 Год назад
@@davidhazel5854 Paramount's offer and Alley's agent's counteroffer were both ridiculous: Paramount offered her a pay CUT because "sequels make less money". Her agent then asked for a lot more money, which happened to be more than DeForest Kelley was making. The studio didn't counteroffer and recast, probably because the agent had unknowingly crossed a line that could upset how much the entire Star Trek cast cost going forward.
@forzatuner3916
@forzatuner3916 Год назад
​@@davidhazel5854 Why do female porn actress get paid 4 times as much as the men?
@jeffreyrepace785
@jeffreyrepace785 Год назад
Even after 40yrs this sequence raises the hairs on the back of my neck. And Kirks "here it comes" line so dryly delivered....just greatness.
@insideoutsideupsidedown2218
Though not very long, this is one of the best space battles ever made.
@whispermason8052
@whispermason8052 Год назад
gotta love that music with it too
@johnathanday3011
@johnathanday3011 Год назад
I do like Wrath of Kahn but the next movie was the best for me. Remembering watching this with my mother who grew up watching the shows.
@filter021
@filter021 Год назад
The Starfleet battles game describes life on board a starship as six months boredom, and six minutes stark screaming terror.
@mmarzett
@mmarzett Год назад
Apparently, it took quite a few takes of Shatner saying “Here it comes.” before we got what we saw onscreen.
@halon7476
@halon7476 5 лет назад
Khan's crew looks like a 80s rock band.
@Antimatter050
@Antimatter050 5 лет назад
Yeah especially khan. He definitely looks like some rock band star I seen but can't think of the name....
@weissmag
@weissmag 5 лет назад
@@Antimatter050 :Nikki Sixx & some others, maybe Bon Jovi
@angryoldfatman
@angryoldfatman 5 лет назад
Maybe, but he and the crew looked so badass when they were planetside. The asymmetrical metal slit masks made the costume. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MnvT0_dIIv4.html
@bailey9r
@bailey9r 5 лет назад
Maybe a LBGT rock band ;
@rprince418
@rprince418 5 лет назад
Khan and the Genetics!
@AllenManor
@AllenManor Год назад
By today's standards, this was filmed on a ridiculously small budget, yet it is widely regarded as the best Star Trek film ever made. There is a lesson to be learned here!
@144Donn
@144Donn Год назад
It's ALL about the story!!!Damn the special effects!
@colinmontgomery1956
@colinmontgomery1956 Год назад
@@144Donn , what are you talking, TWOK's special effects are awesome.
@cronsmans
@cronsmans Год назад
Yep good writing trumps better so effects everytime.
@jeepanco880
@jeepanco880 Год назад
The conflict was real and the cost to both sides was very high, good writing all around!
@Action_Figure_King
@Action_Figure_King Год назад
Hence why Episode 1 just sucked. Lucas forgot his own mantra, story over SFX!!! 🤦🏻‍♂️
@kirkhenry3867
@kirkhenry3867 2 года назад
This movie is 40 years old this year....first movie I went to by myself and walked home....pure magic, favorite star trek movie by far.
@Silvereagledude
@Silvereagledude Год назад
Mine, too….it was superior
@blackwaltz3135
@blackwaltz3135 Год назад
lucky person, i only remember watching it at home when i dad used to watch it on TV
@carminemurray6624
@carminemurray6624 Год назад
"Your's is the Superior intellect."
@Action_Figure_King
@Action_Figure_King Год назад
Back when you could stuff like that.
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785
@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 Год назад
I would have likely stumbled towards home and ended up in a ditch. Only to be rescued by paramedics 2 days later. Good thing I was a kid and wasn't allowed to watch it until the library had it on VHS a few years later.
@NomadRepublic
@NomadRepublic 5 лет назад
Let’s not overlook the main lesson here: The entire event could’ve been avoided had Kirk simply raised the shields like regulations stated. Saavik was right. 😐
@mikey_suzefour
@mikey_suzefour 5 лет назад
Being boastful is what did in Khan too which was stupid on his part...I would've blasted the Enterprise to hell.
@robertcaldwell910
@robertcaldwell910 4 года назад
That's OKAY. Am I the onlly one left on earth, who uses IMAGINATION? What is the obsession with "reality"? Who CARES?
@sonrouge
@sonrouge 4 года назад
Or thrown Khan and his people out of the airlock when they first encountered them, rather than just exiling them.
@prancer71
@prancer71 4 года назад
ALWAYS TRUST A PRETTY OFFICER
@robertmorris8997
@robertmorris8997 4 года назад
If Kirk had listened to Saavik we wouldn't have had this outstanding movie.
@fjccommish
@fjccommish 5 лет назад
This is how you create drama. Instead of keeping secrets from the audience to try to surprise them, keep secrets from the characters to build the tension.
@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg
@Dr.TJ_Eckleburg 4 года назад
Sadly nobody in Hollywood knows how to write this kind of thing anymore. This one scene is better than everything Star Trek has shit out in the last ten years combined.
@Kevinegan1
@Kevinegan1 4 года назад
And make the entire crew completely clueless.
@RennieAsh
@RennieAsh 4 года назад
There's a balancing act. I hate when characters are so clueless that there's no way they'd be on a starship etc ;p
@davidknight2104
@davidknight2104 4 года назад
👏🏻👏🏻 amen to that
@saa82vik
@saa82vik 4 года назад
Now they only do reboot or remakes and silly prequels, Or a remake of a reboot of a sequel like the cumberbach one.
@dylanrhymerthecomedian8023
@dylanrhymerthecomedian8023 9 месяцев назад
An unsung hero is James Horner’s score through this entire scene. It’s subconsciously telling us the story without any words. One of my favourite movie scores of all time.
@sliceserve234
@sliceserve234 6 месяцев назад
Had the same thought. Perfection in movie scoring. You rarely see (hear it) this good.
@gaspump
@gaspump 5 месяцев назад
And he was an absolute nobody who turned this movie into a beautiful space opera. What a shame he got a swollen head.
@toddwatson7381
@toddwatson7381 2 месяца назад
1000000% agree!!! The musical score adds emotion depth excitement tension and more!!!!!
@02ujtb00626
@02ujtb00626 Месяц назад
1000%. The score for this film was outstanding.
@billyponsonby
@billyponsonby 24 дня назад
Yes and similar to ALIENS
@toxichammertoe8696
@toxichammertoe8696 4 года назад
This movie single-handedly saved the franchise
@blazer666del
@blazer666del 4 года назад
And Nimoy`s career, as he quit after this movie. But came back after its success at the box office...
@wardragonprime
@wardragonprime 4 года назад
This is a classic.
@danielwalker26
@danielwalker26 4 года назад
@trf12567 we don't talk about that movie.
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 4 года назад
@trf12567 Nothing wrong with the Motion Picture.
@springbloom5940
@springbloom5940 4 года назад
As a kid, seeing the Enterprise getting jacked up like that, was just 😮
@Reflect_the_Son
@Reflect_the_Son 4 года назад
The best Star Trek movie ever. I found out recently that Ricardo shot all his footage in a totally different sound stage due to his Fantasy Island schedule being so tight. This plus the pay cut he took (that someone else mentioned) gives me loads of respect for the man.
@bratton79
@bratton79 Год назад
The lack of a direct physical confrontation between Kirk and Kahn didn’t hurt the film one iota but in retrospect it would have been impactful if such a scene existed. Perhaps Khan would have beamed Kirk over to the Reliant and imprisoned him In the brig. Khan might have roughed Kirk up a little. Members of the Enterprise crew would have had to sneak on board Reliant somehow to mount a rescue. But like I said, a direct confrontation between the two never felt necessary during the many times that I have seen this masterpiece.
@curtzeek8818
@curtzeek8818 Год назад
@@bratton79 I disagree. Your scenario wouldn't make it for me. I would only like a face to face if it came down to matching wits and Kirk won that way. Someone had to outsmart the other. Your way, he needed help from his crew to win. That doesn't work with the storyline thay built.
@Ericwvb2
@Ericwvb2 Год назад
This film also shows how you don't need the 10 minute long fist fight between the protagonist and antagonist on a speeding craft flying through some alien landscape with a doomsday button and doomsday countdown. Khan and Kirk never occupy the same room yet the tension between them is incredible.
@ericmiller9688
@ericmiller9688 Год назад
Khan and Phil Collins both want Genesis 😊
@carminemurray6624
@carminemurray6624 Год назад
Awwww, Rest in Peace Kirstie Alley, You are missed.
@raijinmeister
@raijinmeister 8 лет назад
Still the best of all Star Trek movies. Sorry J.J but this is the real Khan.
@UmbrellaWatch
@UmbrellaWatch 5 лет назад
hell right!!!!
@atrociousconsequences4432
@atrociousconsequences4432 5 лет назад
Khan's background was suspected to be Sikh, from the northern region of India. Ricardo Montalbán was the son of Spanish immigrant parents, so not very real.
@samlatifi3254
@samlatifi3254 5 лет назад
@Dennis Vance lol. Good point well made.
@richardjackson9584
@richardjackson9584 5 лет назад
@@brasidas33 there is a big Star Trek Khan Theory going around. That he wasn't actually Khan, but was a loyal standen so people wouldn't figure out Khan's real identity. Khan Noonien Singh took over a quarter of the planet through the shadows and the manipulation of the government's moving people around because he was just so intelligent he knew and could predict what people we're going to do. playing chess if you will.
@edselman3158
@edselman3158 5 лет назад
@Dennis Vance Seriously underrated comment.
@scottm8579
@scottm8579 4 года назад
Sulu: "Sir, you did it." Kirk: "I did nothing. Just got caught with my britches down. Saavik, you go right on quoting regulations." Love that last line.
@VegetaLF7
@VegetaLF7 4 года назад
Exactly. It shows that Kirk realized his mistake and that his subordinate was correct. He absolutely made the wrong call and put them all at risk.
@renegade8981
@renegade8981 Год назад
My favourite scene from this film is Kirk’s eulogy for Spock: “Of my friend, I can only say this. Of all the souls I have encountered in my travels, his was the most human.” Shatner’s voice breaking in the last phrase was acting perfection.
@user-gv4bf4zx2s
@user-gv4bf4zx2s 8 лет назад
As soon as Khan took command of the Reliant he upgraded the Captain's chair with Fine Corinthian Leather ;)
@ulphil08
@ulphil08 8 лет назад
+Mudder Fukker And renamed the ship "The Cordoba"
@Agent1W
@Agent1W 8 лет назад
+ulphil08 And [KHAAAAAN!] put it on the "Crystal Key" program, which is a fully comprehensive maintenance program that beats anything the United Federation of Planets has. It will even cover damages that would otherwise decommission UFP ships!
@kuribayashi84
@kuribayashi84 8 лет назад
+ulphil08 Lol, if he had waited with his revenge for a couple of more weeks and had enough paint, I'm pretty sure he would have done something like that! :D
@deacondavis5098
@deacondavis5098 6 лет назад
Mudder Fukker HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
@thedevilsadvocate5210
@thedevilsadvocate5210 6 лет назад
Rich Corinthian leather, it's rich Corinthian leather
@deepthought3316
@deepthought3316 4 года назад
The music to this scene is incredible
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 4 года назад
One of the greatest movie scores in the entire genre of science fiction, and that's saying something.
@jalenjohnson1662
@jalenjohnson1662 4 года назад
One of Horner's best. I think this is the score that made him into a famous composer.
@guslakis
@guslakis Год назад
Montalban was underrated as an actor, he was magnificent here.
@blank557
@blank557 Год назад
When I watched this scene for the first time in a packed theater, everyone went nuts. It was an awesome moment.
@Tessmage_Tessera
@Tessmage_Tessera Год назад
I remember half the people in the theater jumping to their feet and shrieking "NO..!!!" when Khan opened fire on the Enterprise.
@krismurphy7711
@krismurphy7711 10 месяцев назад
Ain't that the truth!! We all remember the first time we saw the scenes....and it was like WOW!!!
@BigBri550
@BigBri550 Месяц назад
I remember how the audience cheered jubilantly when Kirk turned the tables on Khan in this scene - also at the end when Spock ended his narration and the credits rolled. To this day, I have never heard an ovation like that at the end of any other motion picture.
@scotthayden5388
@scotthayden5388 8 лет назад
RIP Ricardo Montalban, DeForest Kelley, and Leonard Nimoy :(
@Andy-go3go
@Andy-go3go 8 лет назад
Don't forget James Doohan
@MrDavidh4
@MrDavidh4 5 лет назад
And Gene Rodenberry, himself!
@marileestetson737
@marileestetson737 5 лет назад
. . . composer James Horner and producer Harve Bennett.
@ForceMaximus84
@ForceMaximus84 5 лет назад
Also, Bibi Besch, Merritt Butrick and Paul Winfield.
@chrismc410
@chrismc410 5 лет назад
@@marileestetson737 RIP to Jerry Goldsmith too. Can't forget Jane Wyatt, Majel Barrett-Roddenberry, Mark Lenard, John Coclios, William Campbell, Michael Ansara, Grace Lee Whitney, Paul Winfield, Brock Peters, Roger C. Carmel, Persis Khambatta, Arlene Martel, Madlyn Rhue, and Barry Jenner
@Tiberius291
@Tiberius291 6 лет назад
Ricardo Montalban gave a yeoman's performance as Khan. Excellent actor.
@ace942
@ace942 5 лет назад
Vivian Pough yes he was excellent in both dramatic roles as well as comedic roles.
@MrDavidh4
@MrDavidh4 5 лет назад
He should've been nominated an Oscar for his role. Then again, he STILL might've been beaten out by Ben Kingsley for his role in "Gandhi", that came out the exact same year (1982).
@gutez
@gutez 5 лет назад
Montalbano's performance was so good that I was surprised he never received a Supporting Actor nomination the following year, at least a Golden Globe.
@ForceMaximus84
@ForceMaximus84 5 лет назад
Best thing about it is that he never acted with Shatner. All of Kirk’s lines were fed to Montalban by a script girl, and he STILL turned in a fantastic performance!
@losangelesrams3472
@losangelesrams3472 5 лет назад
He was fantastic in this role. Great actor and an L.A. Rams' fan to boot!
@ronniejdio9411
@ronniejdio9411 4 года назад
Horner's is on another level here. Just perfection of an score
@feelx92ger
@feelx92ger 4 года назад
Horner connected script and emotion so beautifully, yet kept the epic structure due to his organized, structured signature. He went off to space too early...
@alegriaho
@alegriaho Год назад
Interesting to note, Horner was chosen for the score because they couldn't afford Jerry Goldsmith, who had done ST:TMP. Horner was way less-known at the time and therefore much cheaper. Thank heavens for tight budgets! I love Goldsmith, but the score from ST II & III are my favorites of the whole series of movies. Especially this scene, Battle in the Mutara Nebula & Genesis Countdown.
@coolcat6303
@coolcat6303 Год назад
@@alegriaho The funny thing is that after Horner did Star Trek 3, he also became too expensive. So they got a different composer for ST4.
@vwlssnvwls3262
@vwlssnvwls3262 Год назад
Movies like this one prove that it is not required to have amazing special effects to make a great movie. All that is required are engaging characters and great storytelling.
@RaijinKaze
@RaijinKaze Год назад
Not to mention a totally baller soundtrack and music producer who knows what they are doing
@dchegu
@dchegu Год назад
Great movie always had engaging characters n great story telling. Sfx is just additional seasoning.
@Ericwvb2
@Ericwvb2 Год назад
This film had amazing special effects for when it was released and it sure wowed me in the theater. The Genesis proposal was the first full length CGI sequence in a motion picture AFAIK.
@fastertrackcreative
@fastertrackcreative Год назад
I thought the sfx were well done for the time. The ships really had this feeling of battle of the titians
@Elthenar
@Elthenar Год назад
@@RaijinKaze I am glad that was the first response. The legendary music was half the battle.
@azraelangelofred
@azraelangelofred 9 лет назад
Ricardo Montalban did not play Khan. He freakin' MADE Kahn and no matter what great (or horrible) actor you try to replace him with or how great (or awful) a script you give for him to be in, it will never be the same. RIP Mr. Montalban, you were underrated and amazing.
@Darkphoenix007A
@Darkphoenix007A 9 лет назад
***** You BETTA PREACH!!!!!!
@OverlordZephyros
@OverlordZephyros 9 лет назад
***** thats your fanboyism talking, any actor can be replaced by another better... nobody is infallible
@matthewmauran9453
@matthewmauran9453 9 лет назад
***** AMEN!
@azraelangelofred
@azraelangelofred 9 лет назад
Lord Zephyros Blow me.
@OverlordZephyros
@OverlordZephyros 9 лет назад
***** oh an insult ... nice. id slap you, but that would be animal abuse
@emperorjames794
@emperorjames794 5 лет назад
This is still my favorite Star Trek movie. Everything about it embodies an excellent drama. Even though I've seen this movie too many times to count, this scene still had me on the edge of my seat. I remember seeing this with my father in theaters when I was just a young pup.
@clone1eighty7
@clone1eighty7 5 лет назад
I can watch this in my head I dont need a screen
@craigmanning2439
@craigmanning2439 5 лет назад
This was at the local dollar movie house when I was in the 8th grade. Rode my bike to go see it with my best friend. We watched it 20+ times over the summer of 82.
@georgemartin4963
@georgemartin4963 5 лет назад
My only criticism is that Kahn usurped a Dakota to saying for a Klingon one.
@chitterlingsrtasty
@chitterlingsrtasty 5 лет назад
Emperor James agreed!
@kieranlindsay1220
@kieranlindsay1220 5 лет назад
great film
@jt0n
@jt0n 4 года назад
"Stand by to receive our transmission" Kirk's smug grin when he says this is beautiful, he knows he's already won
@mikegallant811
@mikegallant811 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, you could say Jim took Khan (figuratively anyway)by the nutsack and yanked, hard!
@83Roboto
@83Roboto Год назад
Arguably the best Star Trek film. This scene is one of it's best moments.
@hot2warm
@hot2warm Год назад
Arguably? It's clearly the best. In fact, without it, there probably would be no others, as ST:TMP was a big disappointment, and they really needed this film to succeed in both box office receipts and with fan and wider audience interest.
@michaelsullivan339
@michaelsullivan339 9 месяцев назад
It's not even remotely arguable. This isn't just clearly the best Star Trek film, it's arguably the best sci fi film of all time.
@travisbashore
@travisbashore 9 месяцев назад
its best* Possessive vs contraction. Look it up.
@VainEldritch
@VainEldritch 8 лет назад
I'd forgotten how achingly lovely Kirsty Ally was. What a beauty.
@Steve20127
@Steve20127 5 лет назад
Quite. A real looker.
@Preyhawk81
@Preyhawk81 5 лет назад
butt than she got realy fat. ….. Thats why dont marry ;-)
@devox3291
@devox3291 5 лет назад
Many wanks were attributed to her back in the day!😉
@NameCallingIsWeak
@NameCallingIsWeak 5 лет назад
"I'd forgotten how achingly lovely Kirsty Ally was." BELL-EEEE-SEEE-MA!!!
@TheJosep70
@TheJosep70 5 лет назад
Yup discovered her in Masquerade and fell in love.
@Trendle222
@Trendle222 5 лет назад
for 1982 this movie STILL kicks ass imo =)
@Zachomara
@Zachomara 5 лет назад
Off the top of my head, I can't seem to come up with another movie quite like it.
@jonathandonley3299
@jonathandonley3299 5 лет назад
It's not opinion. It's fact.
@plastique45
@plastique45 4 года назад
On top of that, it was low budget even for an 80's sci-fi movie made by a studio with known actors. Everything they pulled off on that production is remarkable.
@xaviercross917
@xaviercross917 4 года назад
For 2020 this movie is untouchable!!!
@SiriusMined
@SiriusMined 4 года назад
It's a kickass movie for ANY time!
@SGTBizarro
@SGTBizarro 4 года назад
A great depiction of Kirk's edge being dulled by sitting in an office for so many years. As soon as Spock said "Their shields are going up", Kirk should've seen what was coming and raised the Enterprise's shields. That small moment of indecision cost his crew a lot.
@Foxhound3857
@Foxhound3857 Год назад
His experience with three-dimensional combat made up for it in spades later though.
@hairyrichardson8921
@hairyrichardson8921 Год назад
should have acted when Saavik mentioned regulations
@hairyrichardson8921
@hairyrichardson8921 Год назад
of course then the movie would have been much duller ;-)
@deadponic117
@deadponic117 Год назад
i mean in his defense, he did order yellow alert, and the defense fields did go up in some capacity which prevented the ship from being completely annihilated.
@80s_Boombox_Collector
@80s_Boombox_Collector Год назад
@@deadponic117 What's the difference between "defense fields" and shields? If the word defense is used, it implies full shields. Doesn't make sense.
@GR8TM4N
@GR8TM4N 4 года назад
I remember watching this in a VHS cassette together with my dad back in the 80s ... And I recall how captivated my old man was by this scene with the Reliant and Enterprise going side to side so when captain Kirk says "raise shields" my father stood up from the chair shouting "too late you idiot! too late!!" :D ... oh well. R.I.P dad
@Admiral8Q
@Admiral8Q Год назад
I still have it on VHS tape. No way to play it though if it would not snap, heh!
@DoroteoVilla
@DoroteoVilla Год назад
Great stuff
@luigivincenz3843
@luigivincenz3843 9 месяцев назад
haha same with my Dad. VHS tape too! When we were kids, we knew he was into it when he kept saying "Kirk the effing greatest captain!". For which he is (F PICARD)
@mikeandrews9551
@mikeandrews9551 7 месяцев назад
Dad’s always seem to know best, don’t they.
@TheBathrobeWizard
@TheBathrobeWizard 5 месяцев назад
Same. Rip dad. You great khan you
@manco828
@manco828 9 лет назад
An amazing fact is that Ricardo Montalban is saying all his lines to a script girl, he never was face to face with William Shatner in a single scene.
@dougsholly9323
@dougsholly9323 5 лет назад
In my opinion, Wrath of Khan was the best Star Trek movie ever made.
@westonstevens3239
@westonstevens3239 4 года назад
Your opinion is shared by most trekkies. And I would definitely concur. First Contact the second best.
@Alan-tr5uj
@Alan-tr5uj 4 года назад
I feel the Wrath of Khan is right up there, surely it represents some of the best of Star Trek. I don't feel First Contact is or has ever been in the running for 2nd best Trek film... I would agree it's a solid 3rd place; the Wrath of Khan and the Undiscovered Country duke it out for 1st & 2nd-- I certainly feel the Undiscovered Country is better than ANY of the next-gen movies; by a huge margin. The only trek films I dislike are the motion picture, and 5
@westonstevens3239
@westonstevens3239 4 года назад
@@Alan-tr5uj Final frontier a very underrated movie, had a lot of great acting in it. The story and the special effects were what weren't so great about it. The motion picture was a work of art, when you think about it all modern star trek is based on choices that were made in that movie.
@danielmarinucci7708
@danielmarinucci7708 4 года назад
And he wasn't the best khan too.
@Alan-tr5uj
@Alan-tr5uj 4 года назад
@@westonstevens3239 For me, Final Frontier seems like it wasn't a completed work before they started filming. I can get past the lower budget special effects, BUT I simply cannot get past what I feel is an incomplete story; it seems like what we got was like a 3rd draft- and they said good enough... It needed to be tweaked- a few more revisions at minimum.
@A65Driver
@A65Driver Год назад
i remember watching this in the theater in the early 80s, and the audience was literally on its feet shouting and cheering during this scene.. James Horner's score, like that of the original Star Wars, made this movie come alive..
@lonniecraig5186
@lonniecraig5186 Год назад
The scene from 4:09 to 4:19, with the music as the Reliant is circling around, just leaves chills in me. Truly this fight is a classic submarine vs. submarine battle in space. Such an awesome scene in an awesome movie.
@yellofury
@yellofury Год назад
that and inside the nebula where it shows the the ships passing over each other in between the flashes on light
@johno1544
@johno1544 Год назад
Music was so good in this scene
@tomy.1846
@tomy.1846 5 лет назад
Makes me think of a sick day from school when I was in the 7th grade way back in 1984. I had the house to myself and this was on HBO around 10am. I wasn't that sick and enjoyed this movie thoroughly! Some good times back in the 80s!
@sitdowndogbreath
@sitdowndogbreath 5 лет назад
You should have snuck a girlfriend over and play doctor with her you have one hell of a story to tell
@daveyboy_
@daveyboy_ 4 года назад
small memories are the best . One of mine was in 84 or 85 the school lost power , heading home , brand new on the shelf was Police Academy. Me and my buddy laughed our asses off
@robertmorris8997
@robertmorris8997 4 года назад
slacker
@mattrodgers4878
@mattrodgers4878 2 года назад
Your story and mine are VERY similar. I was 10 years old at the time, home sick, but healthy enough to watch this movie. I had always watched the the original series on TV, but this was my first exposure to the movies. I’ve been hooked ever since.
@theessentials450
@theessentials450 5 месяцев назад
DId that many times. Too sick for school, but NOT HBO movies!
@rossarmstrong6731
@rossarmstrong6731 5 лет назад
I swear Montalban absolutely relished his part. When I was a little kid I saw Khan as a genuinely scary character. Looking at it with grown up eyes, you see how he really made this part his own.
@patrickturner6878
@patrickturner6878 Год назад
The TOS episode where he is first found is like one of the greatest displays of acting on a TV show of all time.
@s727r
@s727r Год назад
Absolutely, I was genuinely scared of him. Legendary actor.
@kirbyculp3449
@kirbyculp3449 Год назад
I liked the part when he sings 'Volare, oh oh...'
@Shadowkey392
@Shadowkey392 4 года назад
"Khan, how do I know you'll keep your word?" "Oh, I've given you no word to keep, Admiral. In my judgement, you simply have no alternative."
@geoffwilliams4478
@geoffwilliams4478 4 года назад
"I see your point. Standby to receive our transmission."
@djdemondude6593
@djdemondude6593 4 года назад
@@geoffwilliams4478 Now Mr. Spock.. Spock enters the combination and then cut to the first officer for Khan: Our shields are dropping. Khan with the most surprised look says, Raise Them!! What a great great scene.
@aarondashiell3488
@aarondashiell3488 2 года назад
I remember watching this with my mom as a kid dreaming of the future. I just want to go back to the past at this point
@mikeleo1
@mikeleo1 2 года назад
I think everyone wants to do that.
@Dorpmuller
@Dorpmuller Год назад
Amen to that!
@danielhaire6677
@danielhaire6677 7 лет назад
No body could deliver a line with as much threat, rage, and sheer class combined as Khan. Probably one of the greatest villains in SciFi history.
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 5 лет назад
Khan wasn't turned into a brooding double-turncoat emo like Vader was. Not even JJ could wreck the character.
@Jurgen123445
@Jurgen123445 Год назад
@@pwnmeisterage LOL, JJ absolutely did wreck that character like everything else he touches.
@TheIndianaGeoff
@TheIndianaGeoff 10 месяцев назад
That is what made Ricardo Montalbán so good in his Fantasy Island role. He would talk to you with a smile, giving you what should be great news meanwhile you got chills when he said it from the threat in the delivery. He would have been a great Bond Villain.
@RobertTC009
@RobertTC009 10 лет назад
A big part of why that sequence works is James Horner's great music. It really builds the suspense and excitement: "Time's up Admiral!" "Here it comes." Looove it.
@MrDavidh4
@MrDavidh4 5 лет назад
RIP James Horner.
@markfrancis6508
@markfrancis6508 5 лет назад
RobertTC009 very true.
@anonone2175
@anonone2175 5 лет назад
"Get ready to receive our transmission" 😏, my favourite star trek movie by far!
@artloverivy
@artloverivy 5 лет назад
Now Mr. Spock 🖖🏼
@wayneyoung2216
@wayneyoung2216 5 лет назад
Got that right, James Horners music made these films,oh and aliens aswell
@carlhenryjr
@carlhenryjr Год назад
Masterclass in film making right here. Every part is expertly done- flawless. Even the special effects hold up to this day. Modern day Trek directors need to re-watch it (or watch it for the first time) and take notes...
@frederickburke9944
@frederickburke9944 4 года назад
38 years and I never get tired of this scene. The best part is the way the music comes in when Spock says "Reliant?"
@rleague685
@rleague685 Год назад
The music is perfectly brilliant
@jonglo52
@jonglo52 4 года назад
3.08.. where the trainee is screaming he can't breath and you hear Scotty shouting 'Use your respirators' Love that little moment showing the difference between an untested trainee and a veteran.
@aaronbays4
@aaronbays4 5 лет назад
Love the score in this scene. "And its very cold in space . . . ." Cuts to a shot outside of the ship in space, the horns and strings shriek so violently, makes the hairs on your arms stand up and gives you the chills.
@UXSpecialist
@UXSpecialist Год назад
Well put. On a long journey away from home, as a young man, I had space for only 1 movie on my device to keep me company. I chose this….
@martinjp1
@martinjp1 Год назад
8:13 "In my judgement you simply have no alternative" said with such charisma!
@Greatermaxim
@Greatermaxim Год назад
And Khan is wearing one glove like Rinoa in FFVIII. That is the sound of one hand clapping.
@akgunkel
@akgunkel Год назад
Unquestionably the best of the Star Trek films. This is the film that introduced the Kobayashi Maru scenario and this scene shows us Kirk's character and why he was given special commendation for cheating on the test: James T. Kirk never gives up. Here he is totally beaten in a surprise attack, forced to beg for mercy, but he's still fighting, still leading his crew, still trying to win. And then he does win and Khan is forced to retreat. When later Kirk says to Savok "I don't believe in the no-win scenario" the audience knows it's true, because we've seen it.
@toddwalker4301
@toddwalker4301 4 года назад
That head on close up of Reliant is stunning! These models were so well photographed by ILM in this film.
@hamhockbeans
@hamhockbeans 4 года назад
Those models had extreme detail. From every litte window to the bridge. So when they zoomed in and out it looked real.
@Valen-xu2wy
@Valen-xu2wy 4 года назад
Now they are clouded in "Shadows and Dust", by that idiot JJ. So sad. The art is gone. No more beauty passes. Just confusion until you realise you wasted your money.
@dizdozpurpleproductions
@dizdozpurpleproductions 5 лет назад
One of the finest film sequences of all time, a combination of an incredible music score and performances from all contribute to an amazing performance. The line "Here it comes" is delivered with chilling understatement...
@gkroll8467
@gkroll8467 5 лет назад
great line thanks for the reminder you watch it again and you appreciate it more with all this other crap the remakes of star trek star wars going down the toilet the original cast wil always be great
@PP-nl8ue
@PP-nl8ue 5 лет назад
Absolutely. The interesting thing about that line, according to Nicholas Meyer, is that Shatner kept doing take after take telegraphing the line like "Here it COMMMMMMES!" until he finally got bored with it and just said it in a matter-of-fact way.
@gkroll8467
@gkroll8467 5 лет назад
amazing a guy like meyer who wasnt even a fan of star trek could pull off such an excellent film@@PP-nl8ue
@gkroll8467
@gkroll8467 5 лет назад
excellent film easily the best with the first crew@Galen Joyce
@soundtracks94
@soundtracks94 4 года назад
@@gkroll8467 That may explain why this movie played so well for people who don't even like Star Trek. Every time I run into someone that makes fun of the franchise but willing to give it a shot, I show them Wrath of Khan, and they immediately want to see the story continue with ST3.
@michaelwharton3447
@michaelwharton3447 Год назад
No matter how many times i see this film, when spock calls kirk his friend, just before he passes away saving the enterprise always gets me, pure emotion, 😢
@djdemondude6593
@djdemondude6593 4 года назад
I still watch this in amazement to this day. I can recite this scene word for word before the words are spoken. This was perfect and the Score of this scene is also phenomenal. The music really builds the tension during Khan's attack. I have watched this many many times and I love it.
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 4 года назад
The editing is masterful. _"...it is very cold...in space."_ And smash cut to the two ships powering towards each other, Khan's motif roaring. And cut to Kirk, beginning, too slowly, to realize something's amiss, as his own motif, the movie's theme, rises in the score in response.
@AmericanThunder
@AmericanThunder 7 лет назад
The best star trek movie of all. Epic.
@damnadat
@damnadat 7 лет назад
You got that right.
@blazer666del
@blazer666del 7 лет назад
Hell Yeah..
@Thatslifebro_
@Thatslifebro_ 7 лет назад
Second best beeing either "First Contact" or "The undiscovered Country" in my opinion.
@shaqm0bile
@shaqm0bile 7 лет назад
first contact is best imo. though i think we can all agree that its a real bummer that so many of the star trek movies were pretty garbage. sigh.
@Thatslifebro_
@Thatslifebro_ 7 лет назад
shaq mobile Jup. Mainly the next genearations movie besides First contact were all pretty much garbage. i like them anyway but they are not very good movies. TOS had it better in my opinion.
@BigDaddyJinx
@BigDaddyJinx 4 года назад
Still one of THE best cinematic duels ever put to film.
@shujin12345678
@shujin12345678 4 года назад
and this scene is just the opening.. there's the starbase subterfuge, ending with the chase into the nebula, and the tense "hunter becoming the hunted" drama ...
@minimalistwriter401
@minimalistwriter401 4 года назад
My favorite sequence of any Star Trek production. The special effects were not as good as Star Wars at the time, but the intellectual battle, the exact detail that allowed the Enterprise to escape, and the subtleties of character make this sequence just epic. I loved it as a kid, and I still love it today. And the music - it could not have been better.
@Laeadern
@Laeadern 4 года назад
Despite being from 1983 this movie still absolutely stands up in the visuals. Ive always loved how star trek phasers look impacting a hull.
@Wonderboywonderings
@Wonderboywonderings Год назад
TNG phasers, otoh, look fake.
@seanbyers6916
@seanbyers6916 Год назад
This movie was from 1982!
@Laeadern
@Laeadern Год назад
@@seanbyers6916 You are correct sir...i should have been more careful when typing.
@davidhazel5854
@davidhazel5854 Год назад
There was a sweet spot with visual effects, when they started to look realistic, but before everyone went CGI-crazy. During that period, good storytelling and acting were still the essential ingredients of a good movie. Nowadays, CGI is often used as an alternative to a good, coherent story. If this film were remade now, it almost certainly wouldn't be anywhere near as good.
@Wonderboywonderings
@Wonderboywonderings Год назад
@@davidhazel5854 yes! And, your thought experiment is verified since they did make it again--and it's not nearly as good.
@luissandoval6509
@luissandoval6509 6 лет назад
"Don't insult my intelligence, Kirk". Badass line and Ricardo's performance.
@whiteknightcat
@whiteknightcat 8 лет назад
And just before he appeared on the viewer, Khan exhorted his crew, "Smiles, everyone, smiles!"
@chickensandwich77
@chickensandwich77 8 лет назад
thanks... I just sprayed beverage all over my keyboard...
@emmanuelwilliams2323
@emmanuelwilliams2323 6 лет назад
whiteknightcat Freakazoid!
@nickmitsialis
@nickmitsialis 6 лет назад
Laugh with me, laugh with me!
@nickmitsialis
@nickmitsialis 5 лет назад
Ah-ha! Another Freakazoid Fan!
@Moose6340
@Moose6340 Год назад
Y'know, the chaos in Engineering after the Reliant's first phaser hits on the Enterprise, the airtight bulkheads slowly closing, the engineering crew and Scotty donning respirators...it's among the most "naval-feeling" scenes in ST history. It's the engine-room crew of a World War II cruiser that's just taken a torpedo hit and is sealing off watertight doors to prevent flooding and struggling to keep up steam and electrical power and keep the ship afloat and fighting, while the men frantically scramble not to get caught on the wrong side of those doors lest they die. ST's very rarely gritty and realistic but that scene is about as close as they ever got.
@deaddropsd1972
@deaddropsd1972 8 месяцев назад
So true. Big budget. I think we all know television has to keep it simple and makes space less dangerous. Have you watch the television show “the expanse”? I really like their depiction of how dangerous it can be in space
@colinmontgomery1956
@colinmontgomery1956 Год назад
Everything here is perfect. The performances, the dialogue, James Horner's absolutely brilliant score, etc. But, what I think really makes this, is the editing. The cutting is flawless. The seamless transitions, they perfectly highten the tension. Couple that with Horner's perfect score, and you have a damn near perfect scene. I especially like the shift in tone as Reliant's phasers start to slice open Enterprise's hull. Like her arteries are being opened. You can feel her bleeding.
@innerspirit3373
@innerspirit3373 8 лет назад
Ricardo Montalban is amazing... And made this one of my favorite Star Trek movies ever... Epic!
@markhall7646
@markhall7646 5 лет назад
"We are one big happy fleet".
@sitdowndogbreath
@sitdowndogbreath 5 лет назад
Yeah right, raise Shields and Engage now!
@Axess-sv8nq
@Axess-sv8nq 5 лет назад
It is very cold in space.
@uselessmedia858
@uselessmedia858 5 лет назад
FIIRREE!!!
@theQuestion626
@theQuestion626 4 года назад
Khans cocky sarcasm was so smooth.
@dancastro4732
@dancastro4732 4 года назад
@@theQuestion626 Ricardo was badass but so is Cumberbatch though I see Benedict Cumberbatch's Khan more like Grand Admiral Thrawn from Star Wars's Timothy Zah novels
@franzhaas5597
@franzhaas5597 4 года назад
I WAS 15 YEARS OLD WHEN THIS CAME OUT. I DREW THE ENTERPRISE ALL WEEK AFTER SEEING THIS MOVIE. THIS AND ST3 ARE AWESOME.
@williamburroughs2273
@williamburroughs2273 11 месяцев назад
This whole scene is so perfect. The acting, the story, the effects, the brilliant score from James Horner.
@jeepanco880
@jeepanco880 10 месяцев назад
Hitchcock like tension took it from good to great to Epic! Stakes are high, options limited and the suspense builds minute by minute.. Great writing and acting... No need for over the top chase scenes or fights... The battle is in the mind and this is a masterclass in how to do it!
@mrspidey80
@mrspidey80 9 лет назад
0:37 when Reliant comes right at the screen with that furious music playing...absolute perfection!
@ulphil08
@ulphil08 8 лет назад
+mrspidey80 I have that music as a ring tone.
@RobertTC009
@RobertTC009 5 лет назад
I love it when Kirk tells Khan, "Here it comes." The ultimate wink and a nod FU.
@randolphtolbert3825
@randolphtolbert3825 4 года назад
RobertTC009 as Kirk adjusts his reading glasses😂
@rbrtck
@rbrtck 9 месяцев назад
Delivered with a deadpan voice and poker-face.
@ryanarment5393
@ryanarment5393 Год назад
The fact that it was Spock who shut down Saavik when she was quoting the regs is mind-blowing.
@mikegallant811
@mikegallant811 6 месяцев назад
I can understand why lieutenant Saavik tell Jim to turn on the shields
@andreasu.3546
@andreasu.3546 4 месяца назад
@@mikegallant811 The captain is well aware, now, of why he should have raised the shields.
@Captain-Cosmo
@Captain-Cosmo Год назад
What a wonderful film. I saw an unfinished work print of it several months before it was released. Expectations were not high, given the mixed reception of the first film and the fact that this picture was on a lower budget. It had a temporary soundtrack, the viewscreens were all blue (or green, I can't recall exactly), it had a temporary soundtrack (Brainstorm, some Prokofiev, and even some Superman cues, if my memory is correct), and many special effects scenes simply had storyboard art in its place. At the time, the ending had not quite been worked out. At the point where Kirk tells Scottie that they've got two minutes before Geneisis blows (or whatever), the screen went blank. Only a few people were in attendance at the small screening room and all were blown away; we knew it was going to be a big hit. You can imagine, however, the anticipation of being teased with its incompletion and 15 minutes of its ending completely absent! The picture played alongside Rocky III and Firefox in the early part of what ended up being a fanstastic summer at the movies. It thrilled audiences who came back to see it multiple times and became one of the highest regarded films of the franchise. I still get chills seeing this scene.
@rex-racer
@rex-racer 11 месяцев назад
What a great comment/commentary, packed with insight. “Fascinating,” as Spock would say.
@Kujakuseki01
@Kujakuseki01 8 лет назад
Might be the best 10 minutes in Science Fiction film history.
@bone81able
@bone81able 8 лет назад
deffo
@blazer666del
@blazer666del 7 лет назад
Best dam Science Fiction Film Period... !
@mayamanign
@mayamanign 7 лет назад
Kujakuseki01 I'd agree and up it to one of the best things filmed in the history of the universe. When Kahn barks "FIRE", The rage, goose bumps.
@reginaldstyles3129
@reginaldstyles3129 5 лет назад
U are absolutely Correct💙😇😁😀
@adityaagrawal5385
@adityaagrawal5385 7 лет назад
Khan's face when their shields are lowered.
@MrDavidh4
@MrDavidh4 5 лет назад
He sure acted his ass off didn't he??
@luthermcgee4412
@luthermcgee4412 5 лет назад
Aditya Agrawal , yeah, that was priceless.
@eddywells5689
@eddywells5689 5 лет назад
WTF!!!!!
@atrociousconsequences4432
@atrociousconsequences4432 5 лет назад
So-called genetically superior lackey has to be told to raise the shields, sure seems not very bright after all..
@warreng675
@warreng675 5 лет назад
What?
@rabbitbully1810
@rabbitbully1810 4 года назад
Absolutely the best 10 minutes in Star Trek history....
@RNemy509
@RNemy509 Год назад
To this day, the score for this movie still gives me chills! A true masterpiece of a film with an epic score
@blazer666del
@blazer666del 7 лет назад
Be FAR and STILL the best Trek film to day, why the hell can't they get it right now???? RIP James Horner - Should of got an Oscar for this score.....
@Greatermaxim
@Greatermaxim Год назад
Did he like hot dogs?
@leftcoaster67
@leftcoaster67 7 лет назад
I don't care if Ricardo was over the top. He was awesome.
@yegfreethinker
@yegfreethinker 6 лет назад
leftcoaster67 that was his strength _strong, drenched passion_
@johnnysunday402
@johnnysunday402 5 лет назад
Khan as a character IS over the top. An artistic madman with the capacity to rationalise any horror if it benefits his agenda.
@CaptainSpalding72
@CaptainSpalding72 5 лет назад
That's the point. He was pissed off and had 15 years to stew about it.
@pwnmeisterage
@pwnmeisterage 5 лет назад
Montalban seemed adequately vengeful. But Shatner was over the top.
@stevejoshua1995
@stevejoshua1995 5 лет назад
Who said he was over the top ?
@kirkhenry3867
@kirkhenry3867 11 месяцев назад
This scene is an all time favorite. Excellent actors. Compelling storyline. Building up of tension. Amazing music perfectly captures the mood or feel of the scene.
@ScyllaWyrm
@ScyllaWyrm Год назад
Almost ten minutes of goosebumps, from the acting to the twists and Horner's superb score. This bit sums up what makes Star Trek's space battles so fun.
@tuataratrev6551
@tuataratrev6551 7 лет назад
ricardo montalban shouldve got 500 oscars for this role
@robertthomas5196
@robertthomas5196 6 лет назад
He made a great Capt. Ahab.
@greggallagher3131
@greggallagher3131 6 лет назад
Robert Thomas kirk was a great whale😀😀😀
@ASMRMuzz
@ASMRMuzz 5 лет назад
500? Hahahaha No. 650 bare minimum
@marcosvfilho8687
@marcosvfilho8687 5 лет назад
His face when the reliant shields dropped
@hippiechick19
@hippiechick19 7 лет назад
I cannot watch this enough. This movie rocked!
@mj6258
@mj6258 4 года назад
One of the greatest movies ever made , sci-fi or otherwise.
@roughrider1568
@roughrider1568 4 года назад
The scariest part is, I read that Ricardo M. was NOT wearing a muscle suit. That was his real physique.
@feelx92ger
@feelx92ger 4 года назад
Aye, it was. Funny think is,Tarantino wanted him as Bill, but he denied (afaik due to health reasons) before that. I'd have loved to see our ultimate villain as Bill there. Btw pls keep Quentin away from Trek, it just is not his world. ;)
@Greatermaxim
@Greatermaxim Год назад
Even nerds can be macho men.
@jameshaynes7062
@jameshaynes7062 Год назад
Ricardo Montalban did 1,000 pushups a day for most of his adult life.
@paulgerber6723
@paulgerber6723 Год назад
He was one good looking dude. He was already old when fantasy island was on. Tho old 60's stuff is what you want to watch
@Greatermaxim
@Greatermaxim Год назад
@@jameshaynes7062 Maggie and I make 1000 Chess moves a day.
@roberthaworth8991
@roberthaworth8991 10 лет назад
Best of the Trek movies. The great, suave, foreign (and thus, to Americans, innately sinister) actor Ricardo Montalban chews up the scenery as 20th-Century megalomaniac Khan Noonien Singh. Seeing he and Shatner together on-screen is a real treat.
@Ragitsu
@Ragitsu 6 лет назад
Oh look: another xenophobe emboldened by a shitty presidential administration.
@DefCon1966
@DefCon1966 6 лет назад
+Ragitsu Oh look, another brainwashed libtard that slanders people with namecalling bacause they don't agree with them (and yes I called you a name and it's deserved judging from your comment). So what BS name will you call me eh....xenophobe, racist, sexist, bigot, all of the above? That crap isn't working like it once did on people and it will never work on me no matter who is in the White House so go fuck yourself.
@geoffhoppe2878
@geoffhoppe2878 5 лет назад
When I think of Geoffrey Rush or Gerard Depardieu, my mind doesn't exactly go to "sinister" as the first adjective...
@DrJReefer
@DrJReefer 5 лет назад
@@DefCon1966 Decries name calling. Opens with "libtard" Self awareness isn't the strong suit if easily triggered racists is it?
@DefCon1966
@DefCon1966 5 лет назад
Turnabout is fair play so take your sanctimonious blather to someone who gives a damn snowflake or crawl into whatever hole you call a safe space.
@jseeker1867
@jseeker1867 9 лет назад
Despite it's slow tempo, this is one of the tensest moments in all of Star Trek.
@Helbore
@Helbore 9 лет назад
Everything about this is perfect writing. Its not just the combat, but the idea that Kirk in his prime wouldn't have been caught out by this. Kirk is old. The Enterprise is old. The crew is inexperienced. This isn't the ship that we saw during TOS. They took the risky route of moving things on and showing the crew in a different time of their lives. They made the good guys weak and the bad guys smart. Then they gave the good guys an escape that made sense and one that the bad guys couldn't be able to predict. This film is rightly considered a sci-fi classic. Its not just the action. Every scene in this film has a narrative purpose. Nothing is superfluous. It only more films were made like this today.
@LordGreystoke
@LordGreystoke 9 лет назад
jseeker1867 The tempo is not slow. It's called build-up. It's what creates tension.
@chadlpnemt
@chadlpnemt 9 лет назад
***** Technically, there was a federation on federation ship attack if you go back to the M5 episode.
@4keysman
@4keysman 9 лет назад
chadlpnemt Yes, that was the episode "The Ultimate Computer".
@johnmckenna5782
@johnmckenna5782 4 года назад
I love this scene. No matter what anyone says about these ships you can see that they serve double-duty as WARSHIPS. Both ships have a great deal of toughness and firepower.
@christopherpackham732
@christopherpackham732 11 месяцев назад
What I loved is how it showed that raw intelligence isn't a substitute for training and experience. Khan knows what he should be doing at the strategic level, but he has no real clue how Reliant really works. An new, but experienced captain might have changed the prefix codes, and known how to override the console to get Reliant under control. Khan didn't even realise that it was possible to using the computer to take over another Starfleet computer. He didn't realise that every second he gave Kirk was one more second for Kirk to get Enterprise to do things still beyond the obvious weapons/running, and every second was a second that Scotty could use for damage control. If Khan had more experience, he would have realised just what a dedicated Starfleet engineering team could do. In contrast, once they get their heads back in the game, Kirk, Spock and Sulu quickly understand what the plan is and how to execute it.
@n.w.1803
@n.w.1803 6 месяцев назад
That, and by luxuriating in his opportunity to gloat, and by getting greedy and allowing his mission of vengeance to creep into demanding the Genesis project files, he opened up the communications channels and allowed Kirk & Spock to use the prefix code ploy in the first place... ..if Kirk hadn't baited him into receiving the transmission ("No unencrypted transmissions over an open frequency!"), they wouldn't have been able to access Reliant's computer, presumably.
@sauron158
@sauron158 5 лет назад
James Horner's score to the scene elevated it to classic status for sure.
@defenstrator4660
@defenstrator4660 4 года назад
One of the cool things in this battle is the way the ships are capable of taking abuse. Even with the shields down they don't just blow up. It takes sustained damage to disable them, making it a battle of tactics and attrition.
@josephastier7421
@josephastier7421 4 года назад
This is how we build warships in the United States.
@grast5150
@grast5150 4 года назад
This is because in Roddenberry's mind ; Starships were extremely large battleships. It was only the current generation of crap director's like JJ which do not understand anything about Star Trek.
@renegadeoflife87
@renegadeoflife87 4 года назад
@@grast5150 Exactly. Starships were a battleship chassis with peaceful exploration features built on top of it. They could give and take damage when called upon to do so, but the Federation preferred to not have to use that capability.
@Valen-xu2wy
@Valen-xu2wy 4 года назад
Realistic weapons for non-combat type ships. They lose the plot now with more weapons than a ship could possibly carry. Also the chaos of no discipline.
@Krahazik
@Krahazik 4 года назад
Federation ships have no armor to speak of so without their shields they are like shooting cardboard, but yup, unless you hit certain specific spots, they can take a beating. Punch them full of holes and they keep going. Just don't hit the warp core directly or the anti-matter pods or plumbing. Hit those and this goes boomb.
@ThomasHoward-yj3te
@ThomasHoward-yj3te 4 месяца назад
I was born in 1999 I will always love this version of khan better. Old star trek just had the best stories and great acting by actors.
@williamhaynes4800
@williamhaynes4800 2 года назад
I remember how awesome it looked on the theater screen when Reliant passed over Enterprise, seeing the shadow passing over the saucer section almost made me flinch. BEST TREK MOVIE EVER!!!!!
@roman14032
@roman14032 5 лет назад
i remember the feeling in the theater when the enterprise started firing it was a feeling of elation it was like everybody knew the franchise was back BIGTIME THIS WAS STAR TREK THE WAY IT SHOULD BE
@Spacegoat92
@Spacegoat92 4 года назад
I wish i was old enough to see and appreciate these films in the cinema. I feel i really missed the Golden Age of movies. Especially with the crap that's coming out now...
@terrimichaels3018
@terrimichaels3018 4 года назад
Forever Star Trek
@perfectionbox
@perfectionbox 4 года назад
sadly it led us down the pew pew slope and away from exploration and meeting new life forms
@MegaZeta
@MegaZeta 4 года назад
@@perfectionbox Nearly every single episode of the original '60s TV show had a gunfight, a fistfight or a starship battle. _The Motion Picture_ was a departure, if one I appreciate. _Wrath of Khan's_ mix of sci-fi, action, horror and humor was a return to form. It's in part because the writer-director was new to the show and sat down to watch it with fresh eyes. Without pop culture blinders, he saw it for what it was.
@paulcavigliano6388
@paulcavigliano6388 4 года назад
Yup👍 Discovery gargles donkey balls compared to this.
@MantisCFS
@MantisCFS 9 лет назад
What can you say, such a tight piece of film making. Shatner the Ham putting in his most subtle performance (despite the KHAAAN!) and Montalban chewing the scenery in all right places. Its a real theatrical film. Its what annoys me about the efforts to recapture it (Nemesis, Into Darkness) they attempt a literal translation of a space battle in a nebula and a grudge without bothering to consider the emotional motivation. That and Montalban quoting Moby Dick and Paradise Lost is just badass.
@OpenMawProductions
@OpenMawProductions 5 лет назад
That last one is probably the most important in terms of subtlety. Khan is not simply quoting those books just to sound like he's well read. He's quoting those books because for 15 years those books were all he had and all he knew. They molded his hatred for Kirk and gave it a strange symbiosis. The later forms mentioned are like a poor Xerox with no depth to them because they don't understand that you have to give your characters proper context and motivation for the things that they say and do.
@jcq1961
@jcq1961 5 лет назад
Where would Kahn have learned that Klingon quote?
@marileestetson737
@marileestetson737 5 лет назад
Nicholas Meyer said he had to keep shooting it until Shatner got bored and gave the performance you saw: "Here it comes. . . now."
@VideoMask93
@VideoMask93 5 лет назад
I find it interesting how the hammy "KHAAAAN" is basically *Kirk* hamming it up, not Shatner.
@MrChristian331
@MrChristian331 4 года назад
This is the best movie of all the Star Treks in the original cast, the next generation and the re-boot Star Trek. The same director came back and did Star Trek 6 Undiscovered Country, which is also very good.
@stanleybroniszewsky8538
@stanleybroniszewsky8538 Год назад
There's Star Wars, then there's Star Trek. There's just something about Star Trek that clearly overpowers anything Star Wars can throw.
@hughkingsley8631
@hughkingsley8631 Месяц назад
Agreed. Had a hard time getting into Star Wars but Star Trek kept my interest.
@geoffreyandemma
@geoffreyandemma 11 месяцев назад
This is perhaps the absolute best scene of any Trek story, and one of the best battle scenes of all time. Never give up, never surrender.
@michaell.8938
@michaell.8938 7 лет назад
One of the best space battles ever put to film.
@RoninDave
@RoninDave 10 лет назад
What's great about this scene is seeing two old adversaries using their cunning and experience to get the better of each other rather than just slugging it out. Each one makes moves and mistakes that are understandable and not plot contrivances. Kirk is too trusting at the beginning and gets hit whereas Khan in his haste for revenge overlooked changing the codes or learning everything about his commandeered ship.
@GoSolar
@GoSolar 10 лет назад
there's no great explanation though for why he didn't raise shields. What's the possible downside?
@RoninDave
@RoninDave 10 лет назад
GoSolar fellow federation ship - understandable oversight.
@sentimoko
@sentimoko 10 лет назад
They only raise shields right before an attack. Don't ask me why, considering their power source is infinite and there's episodes where they've kept them up for days at a time.
@SiliconBong
@SiliconBong 10 лет назад
MrBlackSwan Why does Kirk need to tell an experienced engineer to go to auxiliary power?
@GoSolar
@GoSolar 10 лет назад
MrBlackSwan Exactly. there's really no reason not to do it. (I guess except when someone's beaming somewhere)
@Roughrider77
@Roughrider77 Год назад
This movie is simply perfection!. From the story telling, to the acting, to the special effects, to James Hormers Incredible score!. This is how you make a Star Trek movie and to introduce a forgiving villain!.
@1FokkerAce
@1FokkerAce Год назад
I love how they ended this scene with “Enterprise will wait... she’s not going ANYWHERE!”. That really re-emphasizes for the audience, after Kirk’s comeback, just how badly damaged the ship is.
@BuceGar
@BuceGar 5 лет назад
GOD DAMN! One of the best space battles ever put to film.
@raven4k998
@raven4k998 4 года назад
they are raising shields they are locking weapons
@djdemondude6593
@djdemondude6593 4 года назад
I've deprived your ship of power and when I swing around I mean to deprive you of your life.
@seantape6628
@seantape6628 8 лет назад
Khan: "Oh Kirk, dear Kirk...don't you know I've already won? Because I am the MOST MEMORABLE VILLIAN IN ALL OF STAR TREK!"
@351cleavland
@351cleavland 4 года назад
"Time is a luxury you don't have unlike Rich Corinthian Leather, which is very luxurious."
@Stay_at_home_Astronaut81
@Stay_at_home_Astronaut81 Год назад
The musical score for this movie, and Star Trek III, is incredible.
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