Ep. 184 | Minimalist Diets (with Rich Roll, Dr. Paul Saladino, and Dr. Tommy Wood) 

Happy for you. Yet why so absolute? There is many space inbetween vegetarian and carnivore. I’ve tried both too but realised human evolution mainly points towards an omnivore diet. Just curious, not attacking or anything as I have been there too.

Same

@@GbizzGrassfed meat, raw organic honey, organic fruits, and raw grassfed dairies. Way to go and very sustainable

Strange that people who follow a carnivore diet don't look healthy then

Same here, although I don't regret eating whole plant based foods for two years, it just didn't work for me. I'm eating meat, animal fats and of course vegetables (low glycemic vegetables) mostly green and I feel incredibly better, now I sleep very well and overall feel absolutely great! In my experience it has a lot to do with your nervous system type. The common denominator is removing junk food from your diet, seed oils, all kinds of sugars and flours. Before trying any diet remove junk food completely from your diet.

a free instant pot for every household! i LOVE my instant pot!!

What about “love people and use thing” ? I thought that was way more insightful in comparison lol

Aajonus Vonderplanitz would disagree.

@@loccdogg3965 Of course, that too.

So thick we could cut it with a knife. Yet, everyone practised diplomacy & respect. THAT is what a great host generates & supports. Excellent conversation!🏆 Bravo!

This is such an important issue. Both environmentally and financially. I have been trying to live by this recently, and there is only advantages to it.

Seriously goals, that’s so awesome!

Soooo cool!

But he denied he knows Professor Bart Kay, they have spoken many times, and Professort Bart Kay put a youtube video dedicated for him, which is a must view.

It must be hard speaking out in a room when you know you’re wrong about everything you believe in, and you’re speaking to people who truly know what they are speaking about.

Going vegan is not about health, its a ethical stance. You can be vegan and live off of chips and Oreos. If you want to change for health you must do whole food plant based. I suspect your vegan friend was not doing it the healthy way.

@@sevnhana2898 There is no point in being vegan if your health is compromised. I've done veganism the roght way for 2 years and it still didn't work for me.

Rebel Blossom I almost died on a vegan diet. No, it wasn’t done incorrectly unless the nutritionist and doc I worked with were idiots. No, I didn’t survive on Oreos and crisps. Within a year, I became deficient in iron and calcium. Oh, and ruined my thyroid. But those are facts that some vegans are unable to accept and you are apparently one of them.

I can pretty much guarantee he was iodine deficient, vegans have to supplement iodine, most people don't seem to be aware of this.

@@ines.IR.rieger Absolute fucking lie lmao there is no way to become clinically deficient of calcium in a year.

He really is!

Have you seen what he looks like now?

Not really, many vegans look far better, he looks wrecked in comparison

​@@burger101fulcuz he is eating isnane amounts of fruit and honey. Those are high in fructose which speeds up aging. Its not the meat

@@BarabasCsaba7 Nah its him being white as hell and living right on the equator 🤣🤣

These guys are famous since at least 2015..

You just had a bad vegan diet. When will people actually eat a balanced vegan diet?

@@samvandervelden8243 exactly!

@@samvandervelden8243It doesn’t exist.

Yup, if I go vegan, and abstain from meat for a long period, I start to lose hair....

You weren't vegan. You were just following a bad diet. Stop spreading no sense

They clearly aren’t irrelevant, because food and diet can involve higher and direct suffering, or lower and indirect suffering. Where suffering is concerned, lower is clearly better. You can choose to wilfully ignore this, but it is ridiculous for you to try and look down on those who aspire to lower suffering. If it all doesn’t matter, then stop being so vocal about it and just live your life 😂

Mello.B33 - I’m not actually a vegan, just someone who recognises truth. You care an awful lot about this, which baffles me when you state that you believe life is all about suffering. In that case, think of yourself only and ignore the rest of us. You sound like you’ve had a rough life, and I’m sorry to hear that.

i think eating carnivores would be most beneficial to me.actually

@@mello.b3373 I love how you can't provide a single peer-reviewed scientific study on the level of a cohort study or meta-analyses of randomized controlled trials that shows a whole food plant based diet increases your risk of all-cause mortality. All you're doing is talking out of your ass and arguing from nature and tradition. Our ancestors raped and shit in the woods. Why don't you get off the internet and live in a cave if you really care about our ancestors and what they did that much? We're opportunistic eaters. We can eat a variety of things from both sides of the spectrum and not necessarily die right away. That doesn't mean we don't still have an optimal diet for longevity. We aren't in an ice age right now or foraging for food anymore wondering where our next meal is coming from. How come you carnivore lovers don't eat road kill like a vulture or see a squirrel running in the road and tackle it? You are such cherry-pickers with this shit.

Mello.B33 ...Because that was a great comeback to support your argument 🙄 Really shows your maturity & knowledge 👏🏻

Every other living species has one specific diet that they thrive on - but humans don’t? I mean I guess that’s possible, but idk.

What do you think the animals eat? 😂 We produce more plants for livestock than humans. Choosing vegan is choosing to do the least harm; most vegans I know realize it's impossible to be perfect.

70% of that corn/ soy are fed to the 80 BILLION land animals we breed and kill EVERY single year

But monocrops are incredibly BAD for the planet. A store-bought vegan diet is more harmful to the planet (and animals and insects) than a 100% organic, pasture-raised carnivore diet ... just as a store-bought carnivore/omnivore diet is way more harmful than an organic, plant-based harvest grown in your own back yard. The food INDUSTRY is the culprit, regardless of what anybody eats. If carnivores and vegans got together on THAT message, then we could really change things.

@@mello.b3373 dude you are so dumb. You can't just spout out things saying there is zero evidence when there absolutely is. Like wtf?

You are attracted to caffeine because you aren’t eating carbs. Go back to whole food plant based

Pls watch biolayne

​@@adamawakening4551Have you been on the "one optimal diet" and what has been your experience? Since you mention Dr. Chaffee, I assume you think Carnivore is the optimal diet. I agreed as I have been on it for 9 months. I got on the train from watching Paul, Frank, Chaffee, Mykaela, and a few doctors. I don't think it's a bad diet, I just don't think it's the best diet. And some of the hardcore Carni advocates will straight out warn you about it. I have developed gallstone pain, electrolyte issues, rash, and itchy skin due to bile dysfunction, and frequent urination that irritates the shit out of me. I'm a generally healthy person and when years ago I was on a vegetarian or low-fat diet, I did have unpleasant health issues on the same scale as Carni but just different. I notice my body doesn't do well with carbs and fats (separately or together). No one size fits all diet. Although I am not a fancy academic like these doctors or a smarty pants like you, I know what I know at least anecdotally.

A very wise observation. I’m sure all 4 of the gentlemen in this video can attest to the benefits of eating locally and growing your own food.

Most vegan docs don’t want a debate, especially those in the limelight and against Saladino.

I sure they could find a vegan doctor

Yes because plant based is complete bullshit 😅

Exactly, Paul radiates health. Case closed.

I think the fact he's eating more fruits is part of the reason why his health is great! Fruits alone are very healing, and have so much nutrients.

Are you still vegan?

@@CScott-wh5yk YES! It’s awesome to have you remind me of my comment. I’m actually moving to a high raw vegan now. My husband became mostly plant based, kids are vegetarian and vegan 🌱 after they told me they would never change. Thanks for asking!!!

Yeah that’s was protein does for you. If you didn’t know, meat contains protein which is crucial for muscle development. Protein can also be found in nuts and seeds, if you want meat alternatives.

Agreed. The contributors weren’t given the space to contribute.

Well I’d argue that the overall health of our environment should take precedence above literally everything else considering it impacts everyone’s health.

Except for when you cheat and eat sugar in the weekends

Right, grass just decaying on its own releases methane.

No. You're wrong. Not only is saturated fat and cholesterol not bad, but you're obviously biased towards meat and think of it only as mass-produced low quality meat, when that's not what any carnivores promote. We promote high-quality animal husbandry, keeping animals on their natural diet in good conditions. We don't have ruminant digestive systems, we have carnivorous scavenger digestive systems. It's literally that simple. We have evolved away from breaking down vegetation, it's the whole reason we evolved. Humans have had animal-based food for 2 millions years and have only very, very recently had access to huge amounts of plant/carbs. The Inuit and Massai on their ancestral diet have zero modern disease. Zero. All they eat is animals. Funny how people on purely meat diets have perfect health, but western people who eat the almost completely plant-based (SAD diet is plant based) are in shit health. I've been vegetation, vegan, keto and carnivore. Carnivore trumps them all by far and has literally cured life-long issues such as; Chronic anxiety, depression, skin rashes and acne, neuroticism, chronic life destroying gut pain is totally gone, all PCOS symptoms. My life is unbelievably better after going carnivore. Meat heals and you're ignoring real evidence if you say otherwise. You also didn't listen to the people in the podcast at all who had great results removing plant material.

@@trashukun3787 is a moron. Look at the peer review research, facts on leading cause of death in US and other countries that adopt high saturated fat diet, is heart disease from cholesterol as a result of saturated fat. All cultures and populations will longest living people, over 100, and high quality of life, eat little to no animal product, and have low to no heart disease, diabetes or strokes.

trashu kun Says the one who just spewed a shit load of bias 🙄

@@megkathleen Facts mate, only empirical substantiated facts. I refuse to have a battle of wit we with an unarmed person (you).

@@labbott3933 You're looking at epidemiological studies, not interventional. Epidemiology can be a terrible way to prove causation as it merely accounts for correlation. Saturated fats and cholesterol have been misclassified as bad because of the correlating foods that go with it. You may be able to blame a patty but in reality, the french fries, buns, and soda are accounting for the true cause of disease. Interventional studies (actually scientific and measurable) prove that animal-based foods are nutritious and whole. Plants on the other hand have evolved to produce toxins that can lead to chronic disease. If you look at it from an evolutionary perspective, apes and humans separated at the time that we began predominantly eating animal foods when plant foods became sparse in Northern Africa.

Keep dreaming. Its unsustainable and killing this planet. Only reason why 8 billion people could have meat is with factory farming. Grandma isn't going to go out and shoot a deer. Neither are urban dwellers.

@@cobbb11 People don't necessarily have to hunt wildlife in order to avoid factory farming. Pasture-raised animal agriculture is sustainable and the animals can graze land that isn't suitable for plants. Also, if you watched the entire video, what's your rebuttal to Paul Saladino's response to greenhouse gases from animal agriculture not being a topic of concern?

@@benkimmel not sustainable for the whole planet, and still not ethical. And since Saldino is basically bought and paid for by the meat industry, why would I expect him to say anything even slightly critical of his cash cow (no pun intended)

@@cobbb11 Do you have sources that confirm that Saladino is bought and paid by the meat industry? Also, you didn't answer my question. What's your take on the data he brought up from the EPA and FAO?

@@benkimmel how about the fact that he is a psychiatrist and not even trained in a field that deals with nutrition and health? Send me a link to the references he claims. Don't feel lime googling right now.

#metoo Ryan, and how any monoculture sterilises the environment to grow only one product be it dairy, beef, honey, bananas, water, plants etc.. To misquote Rich we, individually and collectively, are reductionists and are easily misled into thinking reducing our intake by/to any one thing, will be our saviour. Humans, as biological beings, cannot exist on one 'product', we need air, water, food, connections etc. so what makes the growers assume their product is any different. I have seen quite a few documentaries now where the farmer 'gets out of the way' and encourages the land to regenerate naturally which allows the natural symbiosis of different species to occur thereby improving all aspects of the final product. And AND! a side benefit was that the farmer wasn't left broke trying to control nature, and didn't have to work as hard to get his 'new and improved' product to market. If only the consumer could be educated to prioritise healthy eating in the household budget and willingly pay the real cost of real food. To misquote Michale Pollan Eat real food, mostly local, not too much waste. Lead from the shopping trolly? Work with nature, not against it?

I couldn't agree more. As a hunter i get to hear all the ways I personally am cruel and killing defenseless animals. Then I kindly remind them that nature is far more cruel than I am. Weather eaten alive by Predators or starving to death, hunting them is Humane in comparison. Plus hunters fund conservation. Fees from the licenses pay for it.

Jo-anne, I don't disagree with you. I never suggested otherwise. In fact, I'm very much in support of Biodiversity, reducing monocropping, and regenerative farming practices. My point is that you can't eat anything, vegitables or meat, without sentient animals dying. So the ethical argument proposed by vegan advocates is vertually mute. In fact it could be argued that eating meat might be more ethical when calculating and comparing the number of sentient animals destroyed in the processing of meat and vegetables.

Troy, Preach it brother!

I’m carnivore and I wouldn’t say this.

Gross

@@Adamimmune Tasts like a vanilla smoothie. Has hardly any sugar. Perfect nutrition. Dont't have to worry about cooking. I east a regular dinner and I have a HUEL shake at lunch. 2 meals a day. Feel great.

@@DerrenBrown100 the soiboy life ain't for me derrennnpc.

I was reading yesterday that the nutrition drinks (powdered types) arent subject to the same rigorous testing as other foods, as it comes under a different category. I would be careful and maybe get some of the powder tested independently if it is your main source of nutrition, just to be on the safe side.

@Pepsi Jacksonyou’re ignorant ..

@Pepsi Jackson if you say so…..you should really learn about nutrition and the human anatomy before you go and spue out incorrect information,……

I disagree, I have read through both. Roughly 90% of GHG emissions do not come from food. Paul is correct in this statement.

@@star-warsienblaming livestock is a cover up created by Big Oil. That’s why people like Bill Gates are also heavily invested in fake meat and plant based foods. Fossil fuel companies put more input into monocrops-synthetic fertilizer. People are unrealistic about what food is available thanks to global food supply systems. Eating local is best. Ethical hunting and fishing is best. Growing some stuff is good but good luck doing that in the winter or keeping pests away in season. Plants don’t have a detox system like animals do. Even with all the crap livestock in animal agriculture get put in them they can detox. Pesticides on plants stay on the plants and get into the body. We’ve been psychologically conditioned by industries over the years through commercialization. It creates a mind/body disconnect. Walk around in nature anywhere. Do you see fruits and vegetables growing or do you see animals and fish? Saladino has more medical training and he’s considering anthropology. Yes, doing things like our ancestors does make sense. Everyone else in the room seems to be speaking anecdotally. Roll had a health scare and went vegan. The mediator looks weak and skinny. The other doctor? He seems fairly biased. I admire Saladino’s conviction. He’s also tried more different diets than the others for the sake of experimentation.

China study book is a complete lie, if you take the published report numbers it shows the inverse relationship between meat intake and all cause mortality. The numbers used to publish that book was a subset of the data and was cherry picked to support their view. Pure propaganda.

Thanks for your opinion. These books have helped me tremendously with my health complications. I’m now living an infection and pain free life thanks to their advice on nutrition, exercise and lifestyle. So grateful to be on this minimalist journey. Thank you J & R 🙏🏻

@@bishamuesmus301 how can that even be possible? And whatabout all other data we have on meat being linked to heart disease? I think you’re just uncomfortable with the idea of giving up meat and have scoured the internet for arguments against obvious data. There’s literally an argument to be found for literally anything on the internet. It’s a wild place. There’s people who think the earth is flat, that Australia isn’t real, that vegetables are bad for you, etc. I find it easy to believe plants are healthy due to. 1. Data 2. A comparison of our bodies vs that of our closest ape relatives who are all frugivores 3. The unethical aspect and grotesque nature of the meat industry. 4. The environment. Whatever Paul said in this is conplete bullshit. Cowspiracy was a bit off but a 2018 peer reviewed meta analysis found that eliminating all animal products would reduce global emissions by 28%

Big time Carnivore MD’s: SALADino, Dr. BERRY, and Dr. BAKER. Carb names LOL.

have you heard something called age :)

The problem is, gullible idiots see one video of a psycho farmhand ground and pounding a calf, and the light switch in their brain turns to "bad" and that's it.

Does being cruel to an animal (or torturing an animal) only happen before the killing? Or does it not happen during the killing as well? One can vote with their dollar on less cruel practices to get the same nutrients and calories by not paying someone to torture/kill someone who did not want to die.

Why?…