Ep. 216: IFR Flight Planning | How To

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In this video we'll cover how to properly complete an IFR Flight Plan, along with a helpful checklist below to cover all the steps!
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@abbieamavi 3 года назад

*I'm 2 weeks out from my IFR checkride, and I'm feeling overwhelmed kind of like I did for my first couple cross countries in Private. I think I always over complicate my planning to be honest. 😂 Great video summary!*

@7ZeroProductions 5 лет назад

We use our manual E6B to calculate the last time a girl talked to us... taking wind direction into account of course

@Taurineg 5 лет назад

7.ZeroProductions 1989?

@youhavethisnametoo 5 лет назад

Free ground, this is so awesome!

@GunshipGlare_1 Год назад

Learnt a lot from this

@djbprogrammer 6 лет назад

Very useful. You've answered a lot of questions that usually don't get address in early training. I really like your thoroughness. Thank you.

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 6 лет назад

Glad it helps! Be sure to share us with your friends on FB and around the airport!

@lukespreeman1557 5 лет назад

Great stuff John! remember to check those NOTAMS and TFRs first so you don't waste your time planning everything and then find out the RWYs closed haha.

@coryvazquez2200 2 года назад

Great video! I was listening to this at work so I may have missed it. The one thing (I think) you missed is to explain the unusable radials of the VORs in the IFR Supplement. Definitely an important consideration in planning an IFR flight using only VORs!

@blakebaumgart8259 6 лет назад

Great video man, really helpful and relevant

@UnusualAttitudes 4 года назад

Great video, Jon- valuable information here!

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад

Of course!! Happy to help

@mxcollin95 4 года назад

Excellent instruction. 👍

@danieldillon9225 3 года назад

Thank you for doing this and all the videos you do.

@MDFRfiredriver 6 лет назад

Always great educational videos

@guygnm2771 Год назад

Great video when looking it for the first time

@radamdrake Год назад

Very helpful video, passed my instrument checkride!

@jherrod561 6 лет назад

Very nice. Great job. Helpful. I'm over in West Palm Beach.

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 6 лет назад

Glad it helps! Share us with your friends!

@bulamoves2987 4 года назад

Hey Jon, im very appreciated of this video as it helped me understand so much more. But is it essential to include a victor airway? Thanks

@robertspitaleri9790 2 года назад

great video. Thank you so much. I am half way through my IFR training. F

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful!

@robertspitaleri9790 7 месяцев назад

Thank you for great video and excellent teaching

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 6 месяцев назад

Glad it was helpful!

@chandrashekharthakkar8020 4 года назад

While planning alternate to Daytona beach, you planned direct - that would require GPS, which you said you don’t have. Also you went through restricted airspace without checking it’s limitations

@emilschaffroth6247 6 лет назад

great video! i have a lot of questions about all the acronyms you used, im new to instrument flight training and would be nice if you explained what they mean during the video. ie star sid oroca

@DragonPhlyy 5 лет назад

would you list direct to each VOR like you have in flight aware? Or would you put the name of the victor airways youre going to be on in the flight plan?

@JoshOnGuitar 5 лет назад

Hey Jon. Couldn't you just switch VORs at the halfway point to stay on that airway from PIE to GNV?

@DragonPhlyy 5 лет назад

Wouldn't you also have to plan your alternate via non direct route since youre /U?

@bayernrekordmeister344 3 месяца назад

Great video. The Flight plan form is outdated since this video made. Make sure you use ICAO form now..right?

@officergregorystevens5765 6 лет назад

Is there a policy of 80 miles max between VORs? Didn't know that, esp for IFR flights. like to adjust my sim flights to be as realistic as possible heh. So I flew a few times lately KALB to KBDL using the route STELA HADUX I think... Hadux is the first ILS intercept for runway 33 at KBDL though :)

@nickgresla234 3 года назад

Now can we just use the routes in ForeFlight or skyvector or is that not recommended

@philmoredennie526 6 лет назад

Awesome realy enjoy your video. ...am an old school pilot ..but rusty pilot been out of aviation actively for 12 years would like to spool up to speed with the new flight planning soft ware available..what do you recommend for flight planning soft ware and hardware product ..regular android tablet or ipad..

@southernpilot 5 лет назад

Take a look at Foreflight.

@ECAstack Год назад

What are some good flight planning and W&B apps to buy?

@allenmetz3293 2 года назад

So question you add the IAF as a waypoint on your flight plan and then add the airport as your last point?

@1PickJesus 4 года назад

Thanks Jon. What if you want to fly a touch & go approach and then go to another nearby airport for practice approaches on one IFR Flight plan. Do you list the airport of intended touch and go in the route portion of your plan and then the nearest nav aid and put the succeeding airport for your destination?

@1PickJesus 4 года назад

oh! I got my answer when I scrolled down! Der!

@runforitman 6 лет назад

Sky vector is literally a godsend

@officergregorystevens5765 6 лет назад

So is iflightplanner.com and its aviation maps section which is used whether you're planning or looking at the weather/briefing for weather. www.iflightplanner.com/AviationCharts/ type in a route string at the top and you'll get it shown... :) it'll show you real time or close to real time nexrad composite, or mrms not sure.. difference is mrms uses the various nexrad stations and adjusts their presentatio to show you the lowest possible precipitation level, and things like that. variable products.

@richardphillips2405 5 лет назад

I liked your video. But, there are a few things I need to learn about first. One thing I did not quite understand is about making your final destination a fix or vor rather than the destination airport. If, for some reason, you can't land at the destination airport, why can't you go back to the fix.

@stevenbernstein1978 3 года назад

I'm confused. You added NITTS (fix) to the route to cut down on the mileage between KPIE & KGNV but earlier you said that you don't have RNAV onboard & cannot go directly to a fix.

@richelefloyd2397 4 года назад

Am I somehow missing the checklist link in the description?

@randytrivette6618 3 года назад

You and me both

@marcelolipas Год назад

Same here... :-(

@mattmckeon4359 Год назад

Never plan to transit through a restricted area, and preferably not through a MOA either, while enroute to an alternate. You could get jammed up by ATC during the divert and if NORDO you don't want to be bumbling through a hot restricted area enroute to the alternate.

@fobypawz418 Год назад

Am I understanding this correctly? It seems most of the principles around IFR flight planning besides the method of navigation and reduction of airspace limitations seems to use VFR flight planning principles and foundations as far as regarding a majority of safety procedures and weather considerations.

@mattbasford6299 4 года назад

I've flown nearly 500 hours VFR with a lot of cross country. You said that hopefully we would recall from a VFR flight plan. I have never filed a VFR flight plan...ever.

@harveymanfrantinsingin7373 3 года назад

yeah.. there's LOTS of bad pilots out there.. They just don't normally announce it. If you were paying attention, you'd realize he was referring to west-even, east-odd..

@freakfly23 2 года назад

I never file vfr flight plans. Ever. I do, however, get flight following. Unless it is denied, I always get flight following. If flight service was worth their salt, I would consider filling a vfr flight plan.

@kneecaps2000 2 года назад

@@freakfly23 At least if you file...there is a chance SAR might be sent to find you......

@freakfly23 2 года назад

@@kneecaps2000 It will be hours before SAR even starts looking for you. First, you have to be 30 minutes overdue. If you go down shortly after departure on a 4 hour trip,, you do the math. Then they start trying to call you. Then they call your destination airport, departure airport, and all airports on your route. When they do finally launch, they look 50 miles on either side of your route. If you get flight following, you're radar identified right away and talking to atc. If anything happens they send people to look for you almost immediately and they know where you are.

@kneecaps2000 2 года назад

@@freakfly23 Agreed flight following is better if it's available...but none of those reasons are compelling enough essentially not bothering to file a VFR plan. I suppose it's a personal choice though.

@kenellis2410 4 года назад

Notams?

@mmathews1976 6 лет назад

Hi Jon, your video(s) are very informative. I am a low hour private pilot (60 hours) and am interested in taking longer cross country flights which would require refueling which you speak a lot in this video. My home airport 76G invoices me monthly for fuel purchases, however I am not aware on the common practice for purchasing fuel at other airports. This is not a topic that was discussed during my flight training. Short of piecing together this information, I though I could see what your experience has been for purchasing fuel at other FBOs (fuel Card, Credit Card, Cash)? Also, my FBO is self serve, how would I purchase fuel at another fbo that is not staffed full time (self serve)? Hopefully this is a valid question, thanks - Mark

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 6 лет назад

Pretty much every airport with self serve gas has a credit card reader. Same as at the gas station for your car, swipe and fill it up!

@southernpilot 5 лет назад

Do your homework on fuel prices and FBO fees. It can get expensive fast. I normally call new or unfamiliar FBOs just to make sure they are going to be open, have fuel and such so there are no surprises.

@mxcollin95 4 года назад

Quick question: when you’re filing a victor airway and it has two numbers associated with it ( say V195-295 ), do you file both numbers after the “V” or just the first number immediately filling the “V” on the route section of the flight plan?

@stephenbordano5974 4 года назад

Did you figure out that answer, because i have that same question

@sabrinaclift1180 2 года назад

I'm only an Instrument Student, so take this as a NON-expert answer, but I think it has to do with overlapping Victor Airways. So the one you use is based on where you're ultimately going. If there's an intersection where, say, V195 goes off to the northeast and V295 goes due north, and you're planning to go northeast after said intersection, you'll be using V195 in your flight plan. I've noticed that airways overlap sometimes and then split off elsewhere. This seems to be especially true in areas where it wouldn't make sense to have two Victor Airways run parallel to each other when it would be fine to have them overlap between two intersections.

@CyrilDeretz 5 лет назад

Hello. I am learning to fly and found your video very useful. However, I somewhat can't get t display arrival and departures as you do on Skyvector. What is your secret?

@ayonsaha7963 4 года назад

Cyril Deretz just hover mouse over airport and it should have all the charts in pdf format.

@BillCipher1337 3 года назад

Sadly only usa is supported

@davidnorman4396 3 года назад

what must you report to ATC when not in radar contact? Where is this explained in the FARs or AIM?

@alexkleiber2875 3 года назад

Aim 5-3, Far 91.183 and Far 91.187 Also, pilots cafe is a great study resource to utilize. It has most information you'll need, and the far/aim section associated with it. Good luck!

@elunico13 6 лет назад

How do you file IFR with multiple approaches at more than one airport? For example the student required IFR cross country 3 IAPs at 2 different airports?

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 6 лет назад

Just file to go to multiple airports, you don't actually "file" an IAP on a flight plan, just the route and destination

@elunico13 6 лет назад

FLY8MA.com Flight Training I guess a request is made upon arrival for the desired approaches. Same with requesting IFR for approaches at the departure airport.

@rn2811 6 лет назад

I just filed three separate flight plans.

@CertifiedTrans 4 года назад

Where do you go to get this lift index report or is it in foreflight?

@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 4 года назад

No, it can be found from various providers on google

@CertifiedTrans 4 года назад

@@fly8ma.comflighttraining199 which one do you prefer

@1shARyn3 5 лет назад

?? LAL V157 OCF ??? 2 nm shorter

@mohammadsujon8048 6 лет назад

Please make your video with writing description. So that we can understand easily.

@nickyoung1072 6 лет назад

do we need a degree in engineering to become a Flight Planner? Can you get the job if you study Aviation Management?

@alexmelia8873 5 лет назад

aicraft dispatchers work for large airlines and do this for pilot before their flight. There is schooling for it, im not sure if its standard degrees or what

@jonthepilot6924 5 лет назад

I'm pretty sure that all you need for the license is the FAA dispatcher certification, but you may be more employable if you also have a bachelor's.

@lionheart082766 6 лет назад

This is ok for learning the basics in a basic aircraft but in reality these days most flights try to plan gps direct. The main problem here is that chunk of controlled b airspace and the restrictions you will have. Altitudes and being vectored for traffic. The great thing is being ifr they will deal with you as opposed to very they most likely will not want to. Question is how good are the controllers there to vectoring you or assigning an altitude so you can take the most direct route? Good thing your not in wash dc or nyc airspace. A small aircraft is restricted on speed which is another problem. Your too slow. It might be advantages to just go around b airspace altogether.

@BobbyChastain 2 года назад

The checklist seems to have disappeared.

@marcelolipas Год назад

Can't find it either

@jimburford4535 3 года назад

no flight plan was filed out too much talk . fill out the form.

@superskullmaster 6 лет назад

Looks like you added a gps waypoint anyway

@TheRue26 6 лет назад

NITTS is not a GPS waypoint. It's identified using crossing VOR radials or a VOR radial and DME.

@BillCipher1337 3 года назад

as far as i have unterstood this tutorial that waypoint is optional

@gregpodrasky110 2 года назад

Probably easier to do a quadruple bypass blindfolded....

@artwright3128 5 лет назад

Slow down a little on the speech rate??

@SuperEddietv 3 года назад

"Find yourself a 6 seat airplane to take your 4 friends and go get checked out in that." -Doesn't exist in the rental world

@pauljason3478 3 года назад

At 19:50 when you say "there's no way for us to get to the IAF if we file to the airport"...a student will probably think "why not just enter the IAF in the GPS in hit the Direct To button? Isn't that a way for us to get to the IAF?" Now I know what you're trying to say, but when you're dealing with students, you really gotta choose your words more carefully man. Saying there's no way to get to the IAF isn't the most clear way to make your point. You're going to confuse a lot of students by wording it that way. And btw on a side note...yes you should follow AVEF lost comm procedures...but in reality if you file to an airport (and not an IAF), ATC is going to see you on the radar, they're going to know you're squawking lost comms, and if you go direct to an IAF, they're going to know what you're doing...and frankly it will create less hassle then if you fly to the airport like you filed. Just saying. That may have been relevant in the days before GPS, but nowadays it doesn't feel very practical. I feel like this whole you-should-file-to-the-IAF argument is something that flight instructors say who don't really have any real world experience flying long distance flights either part 135 or 121. And another another side note...what if the runway you filed an IAF for closes, or the winds change and favor the opposite runway, etc? Kinda surprised you mentioned nothing about circling during your planning.

@trade_design23 10 месяцев назад

So your alternate.... will take you thru a restricted area (R2906) / (R2907 A) and a MOA(Palatica 2) ??? And this video is about best practices for flight planning??? Quit watching at 9:20 in. Are you going to mention that you need to check weather - TAF at your alternate at time of possible arrival to ensure your 'alternate' is indeed valid and not another below minimums airport ??? SMH