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Ep155: Which is the better pig breeding option: AI or Boar? 

Red Tool House - Homestead
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@stormyacrefarms6816
@stormyacrefarms6816 2 года назад
Those are some happy pigs enjoying their spa.
@virgilfisher1869
@virgilfisher1869 4 года назад
My main boar is the biggest ham that I have. I raised him to be very friendly. I run my sows with two boars and never have to care when someone is in heat. It does give me a constant flow of piglets throughout the year but I am ok with it. The boars do help raise the whole sounder and do not fight each other or kill the little ones. If the sounder has enough space, they do not have any of those problems. As for worrying about when they give birth, I still maintain my Laissez-faire method. The mother in question will disappear into the woods for a couple of days and eventually come up for morning chow. That’s when I count what she gave me. With a little culling I usually get 12 birthed and 12 survive to market weight.
@BramuShaman
@BramuShaman 5 лет назад
I prefer the boar method. It actually worked last year with my 20 pound miniature potbelly boar and my 700 pound duroc sow. Due to their size difference I didn't think it could be possible. But with a haystack as a boost for the little boar, they managed to do the deed! They actually had a healthy litter of 12 piglets!
@virnafarm9059
@virnafarm9059 2 года назад
I would like to have you do this again now that you have boars on site.
@robertveronda4225
@robertveronda4225 6 лет назад
Hey boar good coverage! I worked on a dairy that did AI and had a couple of Bulls in with the ladies to guarantee coverage. Seemed to work always had 99% success. I am waiting for some goats to deliver now or next month! So knowing that they should be pregnant and when would be great and not as stressful on me! The control aspect is great better than the should be anytime now method!
@robertmalis4493
@robertmalis4493 6 лет назад
Hey Troy just from my experience a bore is a pain in the ass you need to build something like Fort Knox to stop them from breeding when you don’t want them to
@PANTTERA1959
@PANTTERA1959 6 лет назад
Great vid Governor.
@Mavrck-it2kq
@Mavrck-it2kq 6 лет назад
I'd have to do ai. I did the math on 4lbs of organic feed per day and I'd be paying almost 900 to keep a boar over the year. Not to mention the annoyance of picking up, moving and feeding 1500lbs of feed.
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 6 лет назад
Organic feed definitely adds to the cost!
@IslandExoticsHomestead
@IslandExoticsHomestead 6 лет назад
To keep a boar yes you do need good solid fences with a hot hot electric fence. I've kept as many as 3 boars at any one time. Each boar does require his own pen. Boars will fight one another. I have found the boars are easy to have around, but a solid pen with electric fence is a must. I never go into the boar pen (I am female ) if it's necessary to enter their pen my husband goes in. Boars (pigs in general) have excellent sense of smell so there's no tricking them. They get to know their caregivers scent. They even react to strangers. Proper feeding of a breeding boar is important. You don't want them too fat or they get lazy and cannot perform as a stud. Also try to time breeding during cooler temperatures as boar fertility can be affected in very hot climates.
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 6 лет назад
Good info. Thanks for responding.
@c.j.rogers2422
@c.j.rogers2422 6 лет назад
IEH: How do handle physically moving your selected boar to the sow & back?
@IslandExoticsHomestead
@IslandExoticsHomestead 6 лет назад
C.J. Rogers We move the sow to the boars pen. Our sows happily follow us to the boars pen following a bucket of feed. We ensure she is hungry by moving her in the morning prior to having her morning feed. Also we time feeding the boar so the boar is distracted by food (he's busy eating ) so we can open his paddock gate and bring his love interest into his paddock. Works great for us. After a couple of days together and having witnessed a breeding or two we again use feed to move the sow and feed the boar do he's busy eating while we open the gate and let the sow out. Moving pigs works well if there's 2 people one works to keep boar busy (by feeding him) while 2nd person leads the sow along with bucket of treats (feed).
@jodysappington7008
@jodysappington7008 6 лет назад
very interesting topic today
@reddirtfarm7704
@reddirtfarm7704 4 года назад
I use both. I have a powerhouse berk. But don't use him on my gilts.
@TheZigZiggy
@TheZigZiggy 6 лет назад
So you never have any problems with feral boars making unwelcome visits?
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 6 лет назад
TheZigZiggy we don’t have a wild boar population in our area.
@thuyhoavinh5613
@thuyhoavinh5613 3 года назад
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@salmonhunter7414
@salmonhunter7414 6 лет назад
Our young boars did need some help for the first half dozen go around. Was not fun.
@mccradyfarms6410
@mccradyfarms6410 6 лет назад
I currently have two Boars in a separate lot away from my 4 females separated by two strands of hot 14 gauge haven't had no problems of them wanting to intermingle when I want to breed my females I turn them into the bore lot I haven't had to do this yet but when I need to retire my boars I'm going to have a vet tranquilize them so they can be castrated and I plan on waiting 6 months plus before they're processed when I first started I kept my females with my boars I was getting two letters each year from each female but either way I've only ever had between 8 and 13 babies at a time from each female during farrowing
@JoeHHarrell
@JoeHHarrell 6 лет назад
Why not do both? I'd assume that there's no reason why you couldn't have a boar for regular breeding and occasionally throw in AI when you're in an experimental mood or want to hold back some new sows for the future.
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 6 лет назад
That is how I would go about it if I decide to try a boar. Get some variety started then make choices then.
@chadwest7246
@chadwest7246 6 лет назад
I've been wanting to try the AI breeding to see. Me and a buddy share a boar so most of the he time we breed two times a yr. The boar deal seems to work out for us . We plan on use him a couple of yrs then get a another boar . Or borrow another buddys boar for a breeding.
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 6 лет назад
AI is very easy to do.
@bevlower6793
@bevlower6793 6 лет назад
+great monolog...thank you. but now i'm even more interested in hearing from the other side, the "natural" breeders.
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 6 лет назад
bev lower I will see if it can get a video with some other farms that do
@bevlower6793
@bevlower6793 6 лет назад
Red Tool House: WOW! Great! Thank you.
@danbreedchain2791
@danbreedchain2791 6 лет назад
My boar keeps the ladies in line as well. They can be pretty mean to each other and he will quickly break up a fight if the girls get too excited. Another note:My boar is in love with one of the girls. It's adoring to see them cuddle and talk to each other. That, alone, is enough for me to keep him and his sweat-heart together. (AGH)
@MrVailtown
@MrVailtown 6 лет назад
When a group of women are around each other full time their cycles start to match up. Does this happen in sows too ?
@IslandExoticsHomestead
@IslandExoticsHomestead 6 лет назад
MrVailtown Yes cycles do match
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 6 лет назад
Yes, it does here. They all line up within several months.
@thuyhoavinh5613
@thuyhoavinh5613 3 года назад
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@Msapere
@Msapere 3 года назад
Yeap. I have some sows and their heat cycles seem to match up especially when they are kept in close proximity for an extended period of time
@chadstrutzenberg9171
@chadstrutzenberg9171 3 года назад
Next time give those pigs a bar soap so they can get cleaned up!
@bradboyington160
@bradboyington160 Год назад
How many times do you ai in one estrus cycle? Shipleys says 2 or 3 times and I've never heard anyone in any video say that
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse Год назад
3 times is ideal but tough to achieve since you need to do the first dose right at the beginning of the cycle.
@bradboyington160
@bradboyington160 Год назад
@@RedToolHouse thank you
@austinsensenig9411
@austinsensenig9411 5 лет назад
Ever had any issues with a gilt or sow not wanting to stand? We have had that issue without a boar on sight a couple sows wont even let us near them to try AI
@justbliving5917
@justbliving5917 3 года назад
It's common for farrowing operations that ai to keep a boar to encourage standing heat
@j3r3mybarn3s
@j3r3mybarn3s 5 лет назад
If you were going to use a bore and you had to isolate them from the sows, would a single bore do well in isolation or would they need company? I’ve been told that there are animals that do better when they are not alone. Our pigs pack animals?
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 5 лет назад
I know of people that keep a boar separate. They are herd animals so they need to stay close.
@robertmcgee141
@robertmcgee141 6 лет назад
AI would allow for better genetics. No inbreeding.
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 6 лет назад
Yes, I like the idea that I can diversify and control my genetics
@ynotshowme2ur3times
@ynotshowme2ur3times 6 лет назад
If i could get up to 5+ sows i would definatly get into ai.......but up here in nothern maine ai is scarce and let alone fir pigs. I would like to learn myswlf but its not worth setting up to ai for 1 sow all year. .......so i have to keep a boar and feed it.......keep it by itself till needed then turn him to sausage and raise another ahead for next breeding
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 6 лет назад
Yeah, shipping costs to you may make that cost prohibitive. Maybe you should get several boars and start an AI source business!
@mandylavida
@mandylavida 6 лет назад
I think it completely depends on the size of one's operation. I want one litter per year from one or rwo sows. I would go AI. Ludicrous to keep a boar on my little patch. But if TSHITF, I might just keep a boar on hand. If that's the correct phrase......
@RedToolHouse
@RedToolHouse 6 лет назад
Yup, I agree. There are benefits to both depending on the size and scope of your operation.
@deanbarr5740
@deanbarr5740 6 лет назад
👍👍👍
@madboutcars1
@madboutcars1 4 года назад
Why not use a boar for 2 years and sell him for younger boar like using a bull or ram
@armymobilityofficer9099
@armymobilityofficer9099 3 года назад
As they get older they get bigger, so you would have to sell him to someone with larger (older) sows.
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