Australian here. I just want to say is that I’m highly against these new emissions engines. The best engine ever sold here was the Signature 600 Cummins. The X15 isn’t reliable, you have to rebuild them every 500,000kms because they do liners
Truck topia - NONE of the Above are the BEST Truck engines. as BEST ICE Truck engines are only 15 - 25% EFFICIENT , most is wasted ENERGY in form of HEAT , and the Combustion process causes DAMAGE to engine parts , Requiring more than 60% more Maintenance than a BEV Truck. you Damage your Rig every time you Start it. and MOST Energy is Wasted while Idling, waiting for your turn. BEV consumes ZERO power when Idling, and does not have Tailpipe emissions. the BEST Electric truck motor , is the Tesla PLAID Drivetrain , it can haul 82k Gross UPHILL Faster than any ICE Truck , and it only uses 1.7kwh/mile at Highway speeds , with just ONE Traction motor. it has a Total of 3 Traction motors for Accelerating . Tesla semi can haul FULL LOAD 82k Gross for 535+ miles. Tesla motors are 95% Efficient thanks to a SUPERIOR Thermal system & DUAL Heat pumps. Tesla semi operate with 65% less Maintenance. they Drive like a Tesla car , can be operated by anyone in 30 min of Training.
Fun fact: the suburb of Wacol in Brisbane, where Mack and Volvo have their assembly plants, got its name from the combination of the words "weigh coal" (and is pronounced as such), because it's the place where the coal trains heading to the port would be weighed.
As a truck driver in Australia, I can easily say that Cummins and Mack engines are the dominant choice, you will also find a lot of Cat C15's in older trucks
The Volvo D16G had a 3 power specs, 540 (2650Nm), 600 (2800Nm) and 700hp (3150Nm), but it hasn't been in production for over a decade. It was replaced by the D16K which produces 550 (2800Nm), 650 (3150Nm) and 750hp (3550Nm).
After owning several Scanias, I founds their parts way too expensive and got rid of them, Kenworth with Cummins has given me the best run and I’ve had all the brands except for Mack.
In my experience growing up around trucks and occasionally working on them now is that CAT, Cummins and Mack are by far and away the most popular, especially for long haul/rural transport usually fitted to KWs, Macks and Western Stars. Quite a lot of them reaching the 2-4 million kilometre range despite the abusive conditions. The euro gear usually appears in the cities, mostly as rigid bodies or semis. Shoutout to the old girls still trucking out there, like the Whites, Leylands and Bedfords
We have experiences and have the SCANIA V - 8 engines in several configuratians end they serve very well. Fuel efficiënt and reliable engines. World wide in long distance and heavy hauling. ❤😊
The video was well done but, the best engine is the one most Truckies put their hard earned money into. There are a lot of fan boys regarding engines, at the end of the day it is a choice for best success for the actual owner. Local dealerships are the real source of "did I make the right choice". The quaility of service from them really drives an owners profit margin not the name on the truck.
The Mack and Volvo 16.1l are the same motor. The Scania v8 is the winner though, the fact it has nearly 4000nm of torque which is almost double the Cummins, well, that makes it most powerful in a great chassis unlike the Kenworth chassis's. But the x15 is easy to work on and isn't as hard for aftermarket computers to plug in an diagnose. The d13 is better than the paccar 13l in that class, though Scania now have a 3000nm 13l 6 cyl too.
4000nm isnt needed unless youre pulling really heavy loads, most semi in the US cant pull more than 80000lb, so a straight 6 with 2500nm is plenty. Id say more fuel efficient compared to the Scania V8. Latest models of inline 6 can get up to 8-11mpg
@@nipponsuxs well tbh, as of 2024, Scania is still behind Volvo as Volvo has put out the D17K 17.3 liter 780 hp, 3800 NM the size of the pistons is quite absurd
Mack V8 thumper from the seventies my favorite....92 series 430 Detroit a close second..... hey hey hey from the USA my down under Brothers. Stay healthy safe travels 🥾
Mack V8 was more or less the same engine as the Scania V8, Scania and Mack has worked together since the 1960’s, but Volvo put a stop to that when they bought Mack.
I don't think they even offer that engine outside of generators and massive farm tractors/machinery. It is an impressive torque monster , however, it's still behind the Volvo d16k in both peak torque AND how low the rpm needed for that torque.(D16k with 3550 nm @950 rpm vs MAN D4276 with 3400 nm @1200rpm)
What's your opinion on MAN engines in general? We have a MAN 24-420 converted into a motorhome. It's got a D2866 12 litre 6 cylinder turbo with close to 1 million km on it. A one owner pride of the fleet that was fastidiously maintained.
I drove E9 V8, and 3208 Macks but the Scania V8 is easily as good or better, actually Mack and Scania V8's have similar development, heads, howeverI think firing order is different.
Great as always. But the climate of Australia is hot and the trucks have problem with warm weather. You must review the trucks for long time and check the engine durability.
@@jamesrichardson645 I have this idea that American trucks have a cheaper maintenance but I don't know why they don't like to change the category for buying their trucks in EU
In Europe it´s common to buy a truck that has a great service station close to where you haul your goods. I know a truck company with about 50 trucks that started to buy another brand when their local workshop was sold and got worse. The scania engies is today also made of compact grafite iron. Sins o couple of years.
For my choice, Scania have the better, quieter motors on the market. Proved this to a Mac salesman about 15 years ago. He took me in a cab chassis 8 X 4 truck for a drive. He got caught in a newer subdivision; not able to get around a corner, and had to back out! I noted that the cabin noise was louder than my old girl. When we got back to the yard, I offered to take the sales rep for a lap of the block. With the windows up, my 1977 truck was quieter than the 2008 Mack! He also could not get over the grunt as was loaded, grossing 28.5 tonne. A few years earlier, come out of a yard in the HIlls. Company truck went out behind me, gross of 42.5 tonne. I was at 33.5 tonne. Company truck was a Sterling, Cummins 460 hp. Mine, Scania, 296 hp. Got away from him on the first climb. Over the top, my practice is to ride the exhaust brake, running up to top speed of 85 km/h. Company truck went past me, leaving me in his dust. Company truck had a 1 km lead on me going onto Germantown Hill, a 2.5 km climb at 6%. I kept at it, and got past him about 1 km from the summit of the climb! Due to the low gearing, the old truck could and often did climb walls! Much to the annoyance of the flashy truck owners!!!
They are dependable engines that are also serviceable (on the rare occasions that they need servicing) and supported by an extensive dealership network (Cummins are active in 190 countries).
Well, yes and no. The Mack engines use their own turbo and ECUs. - Fun fact; A lot of older Mack trucks used Scania inline 6 engines, and Scania's original 14.2 V8 was built with a Mack V8 block. - We shipped a 1976 R-model Mack to Tanzania from our shop last year. The hood was stuck shut, but when we fired it up it sounded (and smelled!) like and old Scania 110! It had a Mack 10 speed behind the Scania. - Back in the late forties Scania didn't have any integrated buses ( buses without a hood/bonnet), so Scania was licensed to build Mack Metropolitan/Cosmopolitan buses for the European market, and in return, Scania supplied Mack with modern direct injected. turbo charged diesel engines, that Mack didn't have at the time.
@@laiderilex5370 Scania needed a motor that was more than what they had offered back in the day and because they (Scania) had already supplied Mack with the DS8, it was the natural choice for Scania to collaborate with Mack on a brand new engine. The 14L block was casted @ Mack Trucks, then shipped to Sodertalje for final assembly. Scania had issues in the beginning because the block was set up for SAE fasteners, not Metric, therefore Scania had to kinda "figure" it out for themselves, which they did. Low and behold the DS14 was born with a 350hp rating, while Mack Trucks had the ENDT866 rated @ 325hp. The only difference between both engines are the internals and the cylinder heads. Scania used individual cylinder heads, 8 in total, while Mack Trucks use a total of 4 cylinder heads covering 2 cylinder banks per head. Scania kept with the DS14 for quite awhile longer, while Mack developed a brand new V8 motor, the E9, a 998cid block (16.1L) with ratings up to 500hp (North American specs). Years later, The Australians then got ahold of the motor and pumped it up to 610hp (EA9-610), which was not only the highest rated V8 over 600hp at the time, but was also electronically controlled as well. The kicker to all of this is, Scania collaborated with Mack, also supplied Mack with engines, many years later got bought out by Scania's arch rival, AB Volvo... This is why you no longer see a V8 underneath the bonnet of a newer Mack Truck this very day. 😀 👍
Scania all the way for Power and Reliability,the Cummins engined vehicles I have driven have been nowhere near as reliable as the Scania V8, Cummins are good but in my experience not a patch on Scania,reliability comes standard brilliant vehicle.
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Also as someone who works for a PACCAR Agent in the Midwest of Western Australia, We see very little in the way of Paccar engines, Most of the C509, and T909 are all X15 Powered. Also, no Peterbilts in AUS unless they were imported from the states. Can't view their build sheets and PACCAR Australia won't offer any support for them. On that note currently trying to source diff parts for a Canadian Import C500, So If any Canadian PACCAR Employees can offer a build sheet or microfiche please hit me up.
Is it true that there are trucks there running with a cummins K19 engine in them? Didn't realize an X15 had enough Horsepower to pull a roadtrain? Do you have to run aftertreatment to meet emmissions like here in the states?
We run KW with X15 performance engine and a partner company that runs with us has volvo and scania. Weight for weight the KW will climb hills better and on an Adelaide to Melbourne trip the KW will arrive between 15-20 earlier. I driven both other euro trash and their 700+ advertised Hp is not 700hp. I think their 700hp is Shetland ponies while the 600 in the X15 are the proper ponies aka mustang ones. Oh and KW don’t catch fire like the Volvos do. Come to think of it our old N14plus give the euro trash a run for their money.
The reality is you're probably changing manually with 18 gears on the kw and the Scania or Volvo is auto shifting with 12. They can't fake the HP and torque claims, they just run less gears. If you put a 12 speed on the x15, the Volvo and Scania kill them. Also you're safer in a crash or not having one in the first place with the disc brake European trucks.
@IThinkAnAdsComing We are all Cabover KW ‘s except for a lone CF DAF rigid. Long wheel base pantech with a lazy axle. She does the night runs and electrically we have had our problems. Alternator failure. Alternator main fuse. Serpentine belts shredding, ESC fault when it rains, Airbags forget to raise and then randomly just lower for no reason??????. The funniest issue it has is when the LED light bars are turned on the cruise control drops out. Turn off the light bars and just use high beam , that’s not an issue. Use light bars and the accelerator pedal goes dead. We have tried everything to cure the high beam issue , independent relays, second sets of batteries, remote switches. The only thing we can come up with is the RF from the light bars interferes with the canbus system. Low coolant ,when it’s full. Low oil when it’s full, cruise control activates and works perfectly one trip turn the key and the engine won’t crank. Reverse light refuse to work if the washer is fitted to the reverse switch.Then again she has done 1.8 million Km on the original engine , gearbox clutch and diff . Had to replace a complete tailshaft assembly because the original was bent . One set of pads and rotors all round , no suspension work . The mechanics love servicing it as there is only 4 grease nipples. Besides the electrical gremlins , she has been a solid bus. We may go for a XF this time .
@@alpharaptor7510 I agree and they sounded better, I was conscript chief engineer on a Swedish UDT vessel, the main engine Scania v8 14L was in stalled in the 80s
@@S3pra Apple is the best seller in the United States, being the most expensive and not for that reason it is the best product... Mainly it is custom, Australians have grown up on kw and mack, it is normal for new products to take longer to succeed.
The MP10 used to be available in the United States but 2016 was the last year in was available on the North American market. The Detroit DD16 is available in the USA
I know what a cab over truck is but I'd never heard of a bonde truck, now I've heard of bonded shipments Which are shipments that transfer from one country to another country by way of the middleman country That you have to pass through to get to the Country of the final destination.
CAT good for going up hills Cummins good for going down Hills GM's (Detroit) good for Fuel Mack good for Fuel and go going down hills V8's good for going Up hills
😂🤣😂 Great video but as an Aussie who’s lived in the outback good luck getting EV trucks replacing diesels specially when you look at a very large percentage of roads being dirt, the rainy season and the fact that the red dirt in the outback gets into everywhere and would kill an EV battery in no time. Also remember EVs aren’t really designed for towing as they become overly inefficient. You’d also have the fact that a lot of isolated communities and even cattle stations can be several hundred or even thousands of kilometres apart so there won’t be the infrastructure or even the power supply to recharge trucks.
Can you guys not just bounce between units lol. Maybe just subtitle in the metric units while talking, goes from hp and ft lbs to hp and nm lol . Plus its a aussie vid and no mention of tonnes
Because CAT dropped out of the Truck ENGINE market. They knew the the DEF systems would be too costly for the firs 10 years. Turns out they where right after 16 plus years the DEF systems are still prone to breakdowns and not ready for primetime. Who’s laughing now!
@@kevinarchbold3704 Yeah Kev I got ahead of myself in the pronunciation, been through the assembly plant, Volvo on one line and Mack on the line next to it.
4All these engines prove one thing. Engine designers are like donkeys going along the same track. They have no imagination. The internal combustion engine was finished fifty yers ago. All they can do is prop up some system and turn it into a scrap iron jungle so complicated they have forgotten what they are doing. A Mercedes with an eight speed auto transmission that probably costs more than the engine to build. Steamers wouldn't need a transmission up to ten tons..Ted pritchard was the gutsiest guy I have ever known. He told the world where they were going wrong and they couldn't handle it. Australia let him down. We should be ashamed of ourselves.
