Episode 11: Ex-Jehovah's Witness Couple Discuss How They Woke Up

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By popular request, we share our journey of waking up. We understand that everyone has different beliefs and it is not our intention that anyone should subscribe to what our beliefs are, only to share our journey with you. Everyone wakes up in their own way and the beliefs they hold after that point are hopefully based on the research they have conducted and what makes sense to them.

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@SeekChristOnly 6 лет назад

My experience when i moved congregations in the UK. I was in my second year as a witness went to the the new congregation when i moved home. I was there for a whole year and then realised no onehardly talked or got to know me. I noticed a coldness among the congregation. I called that kingdom hall the fridge. Then realised even more no one in my first congregation got to know me either except the guy i studied with. I never got invited anywhere etc etc.I even visited brother i never knew who lost his wife through blood issue in an effort to make friends and no one bothered to even hardly speak to me. I was in my second year as a JW had a good rep etc.Loved the door to door work. After that year had passed i could not take anymore and came to dread going to the kingdom hall feeling as if i had done something wrong. Doubts set in and i gradually faded away never to be seen again . No fuss, no drama, which suited me fine. No one came to check on me for months then one day an elder knocked on my door. I did not open but said to him I did not want to see anyone. His reply was "it's your choice" and disappeared, which was fair enough. It t was very painful and the feelings of being isolated were difficult to deal with but after going through that process came healing and a gradual return to normal living. Did not even touch religion for a few years after that and it took ten years to shake off the indoctrination of the WT off me. Discovered the truth in Jesus Christ and the truth about whats going on in the WT over the years. I bare no malice against JWs but grateful to have been set free. As it turns out i discover that second congegation was having real issues among the brothers about lack of love etc and the guy who lost his wife who refused blood is now in prison for 13 years for guess what yeah Pedophilia with a young girl.. It was well documented in the media here. I was gobsmacked when i saw him on the news

@johnceschiat1241 4 года назад

I was studying two and one year kingdom hall and your story is just like mine, I just didn't feel welcome. Like at the begin this hot sister was love bombing me so much I really through she was In love with me. But it was all an PLOY just too get me to keep going to the meetings. After three months the poor thing bust into tears she couldn't keep up the deception any longer.

@thomashaines528 8 лет назад

Great video. I have been out for 30 years, It is always the same, start thinking and you will leave the cult. You're no longer a sheep. Only takes one dog to control a hundred sheep, because sheep don't think much. Please keep it up. Thanks.

@miat8264 8 лет назад

Oh my goodness, I can so relate. You are me 30 years ago with respect to the depression and anxiety. It was a puzzling feeling for me because Watchtower doesn't acknowledge that anyone fully in line with the organization and Jehovah would have emotional issues. When I couldn't walk into a convention without losing my breath and breaking into a cold sweat, I knew something was wrong. I first attributed it to crowds, but I didn't have any problem going to a show or concert in the same venue? It took years to put my finger on it, but the experience sure woke me up.

@Thelmajeanne 8 лет назад

After studying the Bible for 4 years, I got baptized. By that time, I had 3 children and had many friends in the "Organization". My life was quite content and happy. I did not preach door to door. I had my hands full with my children and my home life. My husband was still in college and had been accepted to dental school at University of California, San Francisco. Our lives were still upwardly mobile and we were moving to a location closer to San Francisco for him to attend the University Dental School. I decided to have no part of the "Organization" after we moved away, since I had finished my Bible Study and gotten baptized. I enjoyed living my life, apart from the "Organization" and did not feel I was missing anything. Associating with the people at the Kingdom Hall was not the primary objective of my life. Being supportive of my husband and taking good care of my children and my home and everything that is required of attaining that end, was my primary focus in life. I had my hands full. So, needless to say, I did not miss attending the meetings. I did not discuss the Bible with my new friends or neighbors, I did not partake of any spiritual food in any way. I enjoyed many NEW friends, neighbors, and activities in the progression toward attaining life's goals and that is the way I saw it. Life was wonderful ! After 4 years of dental school, my husband received his Doctor of Dental Surgery Degree and we sold our house and moved to a different location. After 4 years of having no association with Jehovah's Witnesses, I did not feel deprived or attracted to them anymore in any way.

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

Sounds like you have your priorities in order! Good luck to you guys!!! San Francisco is awesome!

@saladoculichi 4 года назад

Prob the only comment i dont see bashing,

@jacalynbledsoe3717 8 лет назад

Christ began teaching "the last days" 2,000 years ago. Christ said that he didn't know when yet Russell thought he was enough of a prophet to guess 4 or5 times (or so he thought). Thank you for your openness and being willing to bare your souls. Praise God that you woke up!!!!

@danielwiebe2123 8 лет назад

Loved this video. I love the way your minds work!

@mariahp99 8 лет назад

I'm living with my parents...and they are very strong in the truth. My dad stepped aside as an elder because I got disfellowshipped in September 2014 I was reinstated last September for "sexting "...it's hard to leave your friends and family...but I can't be apart of this religion anymore. When I move out, I will find my own way. I'm proud of you for going your own way.

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

Thank you for sharing your story. It is difficult to see how things will improve when you first make the decision to leave (because this has been your whole life), but it WILL get better and you will find your own way. Keep us posted with how you're doing.

@mariahp99 8 лет назад

+Adventures With Robin I will. Currently I am seeing all of the False things every time I go to the meetings....I hate going. but thank you for your encouragement. It means a lot

@jamieangel3766 7 лет назад

That was probably the most damaging factor for me of growing up as a JW - not being allowed the opportunity to develop, grow and mature into an individual like a normal kid, and not being prepared by my parents for life in the outside world or outside the family home, even as a JW. Instead being completely sectioned off from the world socially, economically, mentally and intellectually (ie our education is slanted by our JW beliefs including what we choose to study, what we are allowed to accept as being true about the things we are taught say in RE, Geography, Natural History or Science), Not being allowed and thus not even learning how to make decisions for myself or think or plan out for myself messed me up. And then of course being mentally fucked up by being taught since birth till adulthood impossible things that can never physically come true, like, I catagorically will never grow old or die! Things that normal children just dont have thrown into their world in their formative years! All these things make the world a very strange place for me growing up and nothing felt real to me. I've always felt like I was floating along in a dream, watching myself experience the things I was experiencing waiting to be told what to do next, waiting for someone else to decide for me everything about myself and my life choices. I was very, very detached from my own life and still am.

@marwatson7408 4 года назад

Jamie Angel That’s one of the many reasons why I left the organization every life choice/ decision being made for you. Whether you should get married, have a family, no college, no friends outside of the organization, keep tabs on how much you attend the meetings or go out in service. I saw how it affected the children who were born into this cult. Not being able to experience the other things that children their age would experience no playing sports, or any other recreational activities. Grown Up feeling isolated, depressed, very lonely and felt like they weren’t normal. It was before I got married and had children I realized I wanted out and wasn’t going to raise my children in this CULT! I don’t think it’s very healthy or normal for children to live that much of a sheltered life. They need to go out and have some of life’s experiences.

@ZachtheArvadite 8 лет назад

With reference to the depression, after I was baptized I remember starting 9th grade in Pagosa Springs, CO and played he'll that year. At some point I almost felt like the only teenager in the congregation after most of the others had dropped out. Glad to be free of it now.

@ZachtheArvadite 8 лет назад

Pardon me, hell.

@floydkelley3 8 лет назад

Excellent video as always. Lots of good points that those still in the organization should look into and discover that they do not have the "truth" as they call it. Thanks again for taking the time and sharing yourselves with the rest of us.

@weezyslob 7 лет назад

I love your videos, so relatable, so well put together. I've been out a year now and I love videos that further cement that my leaving was the right thing to do and show how well people are doing after they've left despite the lies the organization tells about how your life will fall apart.

@ambergray4168 7 лет назад

I loved this video... ☺ And you are so refreshing, you dont swear and call everything BS, and act immaturely like some online are doing. How mature and respectful you are! The ones who do act that way will never be heard by those still indoctrinated, but i can imagine that watching your videos could wake some up! I imagined my Dad, an elder, been a jw forty odd years now, watching your videos and not being put off by swearing and ridicule. Keep up the good work yiu two, I can see you helping so many people who may just be starting to wake up. ☺

@jamieangel3766 7 лет назад

Yay! Robyn -twin nightmares! I get those too -those exact ones. Im forced to be at a convention, I know its all false but I cant leave, Im stuck back in the org again boxed in by my JW family back under control I try to say that I dont believe it anymore andshouldnt be there but I have no voice. I tell you what really honestly helped me with those and other violent nightmares I was plagued with for years after leaving.... a dreamcatcher. Honestly from the night someone gave me one for my nightmares, I havent had one since, for a good few years now. They work! I've never met anyone else who had that same bad dream s me before and Ive asked a lot of exJWs! This has been my favourite video you guys have made so far, its excellent. x PS Robyn I cant even imagine you being depressed, you are always overflowing with positive and joyful vibes!

@ZachtheArvadite 8 лет назад

With the idea of questioning doctrine; I never personally brought up questions to the elders, but from what I have been observing; the end result has been a judicial committee for a lot of people. I directly disassociated in June, 2014.

@astrids7707 5 лет назад

Thank you for sharing. You are a wonderful and beautiful couple. I am glad you make videos to help us exJWs. I am catching up with your videos and having a sobering time listening to your stories, they remind me that my family and I were not alone in thinking that there was no love in the congregations we attended.

@whatsupwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

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@pauljoyquilter359 8 лет назад

Thanks for your videos. Your waking up is similar to ours - the 607 date blew me away and opened the way for the house of cards to come tumbling down. Your reasoning about a just God sparing good people is one that I used with my wife. It was tough to leave at age 62 after a lifetime of being a JW - but our conscience would not allow us to live a lie when we had rock solid proof of a long stream of lies, false prophecies and flip flops. We are the happiest we have ever been.

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

That's so great! Thanks for you're comments!

@lilz3242 8 лет назад

i downloaded the elders book yesterday and if people read this instead of the actual baptism book, they would never join.

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

So true!

@searchingfortruth1274 5 лет назад

How do you download the book?

@TheGreatApostate 8 лет назад

tremendous video. I really feel that this is my story too. don't worry about calling it the truth, I'm out 15 years and I still say it!

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

+TheGreatApostate It's so nice to know you "get" us :) Thanks!

@TheGreatApostate 8 лет назад

Get you? I lived your life too! I had my little Armageddon plans. I told on virtually all my friends! Have you guys read any Apostate books yet? I can't imagine how you'll feel when you read Ray Franz or Penton or "Last days when?"

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

Yes, I read "Crisis of Conscience" about 10 years ago along with Seven Hassan's "Combating Cult Mind Control" right afterwards. I wasn't ready to label the JW's as a cult even then... we will probably make a video about that at some point.

@TheGreatApostate 8 лет назад

looking forward to it!

@jakemon7549 8 лет назад

Top 4 reasons I woke up. 1. Worldly people are more normal and have more loyalty and natural feelings than I was indoctrinated to believe. They're far more genuine than those in the .org. 2. The stories of the flood and creation are proven to be so ridiculous that Pixar couldn't make money with those plots. 3. I actually read "millions now living will never die" and "the finished mystery". SPOILER ALERT, there is no way jesus selected them for serving food at the proper time based on their own doctrines at the time. (It did however answer why the watchtower discs always excluded publications prior to 1950) 4. JWfacts.com

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

I completely agree! All those points, except the JW.ORG. I didn't know about that one till recently! Thanks for watching & commenting.

@JoeF480 8 лет назад

I remember being in my early teens with severe depression and being told to do more personal study and prayer.

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

Yes, that sounds familiar. In my case, I got very quiet and shut down. My parents thought I had committed a sin and that it was the guilt that was eating at me. Interesting how they didn't notice that I literally stopped eating. For months and years they didn't notice... even after dropping down to about 80 pounds at one point.

@JoeF480 8 лет назад

Oh my God. Well, you are doing good giving the rest of us a positive focus right now. There's allot of opportunity to help heal people and I really appreciate your guys positivity and lightness. On a different subject: you know that video you made about demonized toys?

@JoeF480 8 лет назад

My non JW family doesn't even believe me when I talk about that. It's so weird. It's like cults can even brainwash non cult members. The JWs have this corporate, polished veneer.. But just behind the curtains is doomsday theology, a backward way of looking at the world and superstition. But allot of people don't believe me when i tell them that.

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

Wow, hard to believe that even non JW's can't believe that story. Yes, I have many more stories like that - my sister was always concerned that some of her kids' toys were demonic and got rid of several.

@JoeF480 8 лет назад

My Mom used to always tell me there demons around my Dad (because he was Pentecostal). Another thing I was taught (as likely were you) was that if there are allot of arguments happening in the family, then a person should do a survey of their things. Perhaps something was bought at a thrift store and a previous owner had connections to the occult? Well, that's why there's trouble in the family silly! So, yeah. My Mom and I weren't getting along when I was about 13. I was told that my Dad was demonized because he was Pentecostal. My Dad gave me a writing table that was in the family for a very long time. So put it all together and guess what I did? Well, I dismantled and destroyed the table to expunge the demons, of course. Sounds disturbed when I tell the story. But it was actually a very rational response considering everything all the adults in my life were telling me.

@carllove9219 8 лет назад

Dont u guys get it? One of the side effects of being a jw is depression...

@carllove9219 8 лет назад

Marty Doc same thing with me,because we were praying to a god of wickedness,i woke up 2009 an exit slowly.

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

+Carl that I AM Everyone's journey is different. We went thru all the stages of grieving, it seems, when we left. There was still some depression for me (and eventually Mike too had some bouts with depression), but there was also a lot of anger in the beginning. We'll probably make a video about that at some point. Now we are just grateful. Every Saturday morning that we don't have to go in field service, we are grateful. Every Thursday night that we don't have to rush home and get ready for the meeting, we are grateful. I don't think there is a day that goes by that I don't feel and express my gratitude in some way for the life I have now versus the life I had then.

@user-bx2cg2ec8c 8 лет назад

Happy that you are both out of the cult I hope you will find faith in jesus and go church which is not the devil I have in past been to ex Jws convention . keep on sharing your videos.

@utubewatcher806 8 лет назад

bravo! encore! Once he is brave enough to venture into the *dissenting* literature piles, I think like myself, you will discover that it affirms those "doubts" as real, or reveals the reason why so much conflict with local leadership and the great disconnect between the higher leadership.

@VanesssaVoxx 8 лет назад

If the Supreme Court doesn't have to answer to anyone, why does God have to? ... If he exists... great point. Robin has a very interesting personality and good reasoning.

@toshay3267 8 лет назад

I love hearing how it's always something different that really wakes someone up. I honk it puts less pressure on those of us with loved ones still in because there really isn't anything WE can do to wake them, it's going to be something they open their eyes to. I've also thought a lot like you in the way that since God is way more loving than me, and I wouldn't destroy everyone who isnt a JW, how could he? I love your videos!

@khaleesio2513 8 лет назад

love your videos!

@bubblestar2314 8 лет назад

You two are a riot. I truly have enjoyed this video. (Loved it) It was very interesting to hear how you two got your eyes opened to the WTS. I personally left because of doctrinal issues, but I could also see and feel the effects of the *conditional love* that each congregation exudes before I even got my eye's opened. What opened my eyes? It was when I learned that C.T.Russells teaching that Jesus returned invisibly in 1874 was taught from the onset of the Watchtower publications, clear down past 1914,1919, and all the way down to 1929. (They didn't change that "doctrinal* date until 1929.) I could still see that they continued to teach this (from their publications)til 1929. This year (1929) is when they stopped teaching that Jesus returned invisibly in 1874. (So it is very obvious that in 1919, no one from the Watchtower Society believed that Jesus returned invisibly and chose a "Faithful Slave", nor did they believe that Jesus returned (invisibly) in 1914 either, because they were still believing that his return was in 1874. I started to practice "independent thinking" that is, being able to start thinking for myself for a change. I began to REASON on this question: How could the Watchtower Society claim to be God's channel for all those years, while at the same time taught that Jesus returned in 1874 when it is only TOO OBVIOUS that there is absolutely not one shred of evidence that Jesus began reigning in his kingdom in 1914? (whew! this was a very long question!) LOL Where's the PROOF? Where's the proof that Jesus has BEEN REIGNING for the past 200 years? This would mean that there are only 800 years left of his 1,000 year reign! But the Scripture says that ALL of the saints would rule WITH Christ FOR 1000 YEARS! But according to the WTS not all of the "anointed" are with Christ yet. (And according to them the "heavenly door is still open" in order to replace another "anointed" who MAY become apostate.) But now it is even more confusing, for the Governing Body is "GOVERNING" over the JWs while at the same time teaching that Christ HAS YET to come to choose who the "faithful and discreet slave" will be. (????) The Scriptures show that when Christ does reveal himself, (yes, REVEAL, meaning: APPEAR) it is only then that the resurrection begins and the Kingdom starts and that the nations will HAVE TO submit to Christ and his rule. We don't see any government on earth today, acknowledging Christ's rule, hence, Christ has not taken his throne to begin ruling "on" the earth yet. (The WTS own Kingdom Interlinear Bible does say "on" the earth, and not *over* the earth. Check this out in Revelation 5:9-10) Anyway this is what I have personally concluded. We are still waiting for Christs return and for the Kingdom. Thanks again guys for your very entertaining video.

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

Thank you! and Thank you for sharing your research. I hope others who watch this video will read your comment and start the process of critical thinking (if they haven't already).

@franmorrison1080 5 лет назад

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@searchingfortruth1274 5 лет назад

Love that this is such a clean video. I have a hard time listening to those that scream, swear, and are angry.

@ZachtheArvadite 8 лет назад

I also recall that the term 'apostate' is associated with the worst stigma. It is worse than being 'worldly.'

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

So true.

@achildwhoknew3751 8 лет назад

Oh definitely! Even after being df'd for years and years I was afraid of my family deciding I was apostate because that would mean there would be even a greater judgement and extreme severance - it was equated with "hating" Jehovah - it's actually been healing to recently come to understand the true meaning of the word.

@castle1144 8 лет назад

I remember asking my mum about why the JWs thought they were right when other religions did as well and she said it's our love and brotherhood look how many Catholics are in prison! Well how does that hold up now! With the amount of paedophiles JWs in prison! My own story is very similar to your own, in my early 20's I was very depressed and decided to go to college as needed to get a better job, and studied sociology, wow my slowly waking eyes sprang open big style! When I studied the sociology of religion and women in society that was it. Thanks for sharing your story all very similar thoughts I'm sure that lots of JWs have now, but we all pushed to the back of our minds.

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

+Castle Yes, I think that's why they discourage higher education so much because they know that being educated leads to critical thinking; and critical thinking leads to eyes opening to TTATT.

@RandomPerson-js3rc 5 лет назад

My high blood pressure hit hard when I was a wittness. I didn't know until I was in a doctors office but I was lacking sleep working , making meetings, trying to get up early to wittness when I was working late shifts. At some point I found it hard to get out of bed that my attendance and time witnessing dropped. Later I discovered my blood pressure was at a dangerous high. My anxiety driven life working , worring about Armageddon and not being enough as a wife, mother and JW. Brought it on.

@goodgirlkay 8 лет назад

Great video!

@evelyngibo9016 8 лет назад

I know what you mean!!!!!! love to see and hear what you have to say good job.

@floydkelley3 8 лет назад

I'd love to see a video where you discuss things you inadvertently hold on to without consciously realizing it (e.g. calling the religion "The Truth"). I know an ex-Witness who won't wish others a Happy Birthday, rather, they say "Happy Day!" Is this because of fear?

@thrivingexjw2061 8 лет назад

Floyd Kelly - I was born in & stayed 40 yrs! I've been out for 20 yrs now & I still struggle with JW terminology . It's so ingrained ! I don't love celebrating holidays, even though I decorate & go through all the motions, I feel " nothing".. No connection ! It's sad because I have kids & grandkids to celebrate with. I always dread it. Hard for me to say Merry Christmas or happy birthday to people. My family was strict JW so I was very indoctrinated! Thank goodness my kids & grandkids have a normal life!

@RandomPerson-js3rc 5 лет назад

You just described how the pressure got to my ex-husband at the time. He was very studious and so was I but eventually he began educating himself about the history of the organization and religion all together and found out the truth about the truth. That started his decline away from it and so we went down. I can say our divorce didn't happen so to that. I started fading some myself but the things he tried opening my mind about stuck with me so for that I appreciate his reasearch . Within the last two years now I started my own reasearch and it blew away the whole thing for me. The good news is I found Jesus because he is the only person in all the scriptures who was a good person. Everyone else was screwed up!.

@annderby6295 3 года назад

Love your "last days"(TM) reasoning! We've been in the last days for the last 2,000 years......from Jesus' time until now. Your reasoning about God allowing Satan to challenge His sovereignty is superb!: "God has existed for eternity, how do we know He hasn't done this before? How do we know that this is the first time He is doing this? Love it!

@whatsupwatchtower 10 месяцев назад

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@RandomPerson-js3rc 5 лет назад

That song always confused me because they teach the soul is the body. 🤔

@RandomPerson-js3rc 5 лет назад

Amen. I AGREE! A JUST GOD IS GOING TO SEE OUR HEART Not JUDGE US BASED ON HAVING ALL THE RIGHT ANSWERS . TO SAY GOD CHOOSES ONE GROUP OF PEOPLE OVER OTHERS IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS WORLD.

@comanche66100 8 лет назад

Great presentattion!

@darlenesmith1432 8 лет назад

Glad you guys are out of the cult! Blessings

@jamessteel1740 8 лет назад

...absolutely right about happiness. What I keep saying to my fellow members of the congregation (I am an active JW) is this: "if you are not happy here, something is wrong". I am happy because I conditioned my mind not to be obliged to do things, simply because the majority are doing them. For example: at the moment I am studying the apocalyptic synoptic gospels' accounts of the times of the end and obviously I cannot prepare the bible reading for the week, which is Psalm...so what? I like having my personal Bible programme to fulfill my spiritual needs and besides I do not need to study all the wt articles for Sunday if most of them, not all, are rehash info which I know already. I believe that many are unhappy also because they suppress themselves and think it is all right not to pursue personal pleasures by sacrificing their lives or part of it to do what they do not like.....So, readers, be happy to do what it makes you happy also inside the org. Jehovah is happy and you have the right to be happy and at the same time remain in the org. Do not worry if some criticise you, God knows your heart.

@WoWNimblybimbly 8 лет назад

I'm happier not using a created name for God, following Jesus, partaking on Nisan 14, loving my fellow man without group restrictions or biases, not associating with those who embrace double lives, away from misogynists, away from hidden pedophiles, free from men whom presume to speak for God, and having the real freedom Jesus said I would have in real truth without religion as he set is free from Law. You should try it sometime, it's quite peaceful without the cocktail of fear, shame, and guilt that Watchtower dishes out in their publications and talks. Take care. :)

@tangelaallison3651 8 лет назад

I see all the ones doing these videos and they are very blessed to have found a good person to have married.. I on the other never did I guess I fell in between the age where everyone my age was already married ... it would have been a blessing to have found a mate and then when u leave you have a friend.. cause single like I you really are alone.. enjoy your videos...

@rowdyboudy 8 лет назад

+Tangela Allison Yes I always felt sorry for the sisters there always used too be so many single woman and really good woman too.

@gmsgadsson 8 лет назад

I can't say that I'm an "ex" J.W. because I was never baptised, or even gave an "talk", but I was born to J.W. parents, my father was an elder for years, how with my behavior was he allowed to be I don't know, but he told me the other day to look at these videos, (he's no longer an witness, maybe 20yrs out) but I must say ex J.W.'s are beautiful people, it's like their the same minus the cult teachings and practices.

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

Wow! Thank your father for us, lol! Perhaps he could share his waking up story with us sometime.

@nicholasstarks6724 8 лет назад

Hey guys! Love your stuff! Quick question: Do you guys still believe in God? I was a witness born and raised but I got out as soon as I could. I'm now agnostic cause I just can't get enough proof from anywhere any god out of hundreds of gods exist so I find myself just not caring after such an annoying religion experience with everyone always in my business. Maybe you could make a video on your current religious views! :) Hope to hear from you guys. :)

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

Hi Nicholas, I can only speak for myself, but I suppose I do consider myself agnostic as well. I cannot say without a shadow of a doubt that there is no higher power out there. My beliefs are sort of like the waves of the sea - they come and go. I'm open to many beliefs and at times do feel the Universe is conspiring in my favor, but to believe in the God of the Bible seems naive and very limiting.

@bjohnson5322 8 лет назад

Hey Nicholas. I have a long story I could tell you about my witness experience, but I won't. Suffice it to say that I started waking up in my late teens(I am almost 64 now) and stopped going to the hall when I was in my late 20's. And it wasn't because of something 'worldly' I wanted to do. I found myself more and more remembering something I'd read while doing a research paper in high school. Karl Marx said: 'religion is the opium of the people'. I can't say I totally understood it but in my mind he seemed to be saying people are drugged by religion. They get their high from it, they crash because of it, they get stupid from it, and get desperate from it and they will do anything to themselves and anyone else around them to get it. Lie, cheat, steal. . . .kill. I didn't . .and still don't want. . any part of organized religion. I think religion and God are two completely different things. I took the 'religion' out of God and remembered that the times in my life that had been the hardest I'd prayed and had gotten help. So I knew for myself that he did help if asked. I just didn't feel worthy enough to ask very often. I did continue to 'pray', but looking back most of my prayers were just words. . .you thank you God for your blessings, blah blah blah. . Every now and then I actually talked to Jehovah in a heartfelt manner. . .like when I had a big problem. It took me years to realize that whenever I'd done that he'd always answered me. And also looking back, I realized the help was not in a way I would have thought it would come and it wasn't until later I could see it had truly been a blessing. Jehovah's Witnesses, from my experience, are not people that are taught that Jehovah loves them. Yeah, it is said, but if you think about it the 'blessings' are in the form of something related to the organization. Like: 'I was blessed to talk to 2 people in the service today'. My youngest brother told me a couple months back that he did a search on Illinois CAsh Back. . .or whatever it is called; and found they owed him $2000. He really needed it because he'd lost his job. He said 'I guess you could say it was a blessing." You GUESS! ??? If I use the word 'bless' or 'blessing' around any of the JW family, they look at me like I am crazy. But this is the thing that helped me. I found this guy by accident called Andy Stanley early one Sunday morning while surfing stations of TV. I found him and have listened to a lot of his sermons. I don't go along with everything he says, but one thing that really stuck out to me was: he helped me appreciate how much God loves me. My mom used to tell of all the time: 'God loved the world so much, he gave his only begotten son. . . ' but I never really thought a lot about it. This guy helped me SEE it. He compared 'faith' or belief to you and a chair. He took a chair and sat on it. He explained that without much thought a person has complete confidence that when he sits down on the chair and leans back. . maybe even puts his feet on the rails. . that they chair will hold him. He doesn't have any reservations about it NOT holding and supporting him. But think about that chair . . the one with the wobbly leg or broken back. You are hesitant to sit on it.(my niece has a chair like that . . people ask is this the broken one?? so they know they can't just lean back in it and they have to set down carefully). God is like that. You can completely depend on him. Andy has done many many lessons on how the Apostle John and how of all the apostles, he was the one who knew Jesus loved him. Not that Jesus didn't love the other apostle, but John was the one that knew it. It made a enormous difference in his life. Now I read the bible and it touches me. And yeah, the NWT translation is screwed up, but I read a lot of other bibles too. But I am more familiar with the NWT and that is the one I've written so many notes in. . .corrections. You ever hear of Anne Rice? Maybe you saw 'Interview with a Vampire' with Tom Cruise and Brad Pitt ???? She wrote the book. She had been CHristian but then stopped, then came back then left again. OK. . so what. . .well I loved what she said about it: www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=128930526 '"For those who care, and I understand if you don't: Today I quit being a Christian. I'm out. I remain committed to Christ as always but not to being 'Christian' or to being part of Christianity. It's simply impossible for me to 'belong' to this quarrelsome, hostile, disputatious, and deservedly infamous group. For ten years, I've tried. I've failed. I'm an outsider. My conscience will allow nothing else." So again. . it's organized religion. Look at how people fight or doctrines. Why fight over a cross versus a stake? Or is hell hot? No one in history(though I guess on the internet someone will say it) disputes Jesus lived. In Acts it says he appeared to hundreds of people before he ascended. So back then, 2000 years ago there was a guy. He did a lot of miracles and the religious leaders of the time hated him. He dies. Oh wow. . bummer. HIs followers scatter, dejected, rejected, disillusioned. BUT HE COMES BACK!!!!!! Think of that!!! That's what the Good news was. That's what they preached. Their guy, Jesus had said to love. You don't cheat, or lie to steal or covet your neighbor's wife if you really love your neighbor. You don't kill your neighbor, if you love your neighbor. You help your neighbor if you love your neighbor. In the hours before his death what does he tell his guys to do . . . he didn't tell them to preach. . .he told them to love. Sure, he'd said before the end 'this good news of the kingdom will be preached'. . .but it wasn't a command. What were the two commandments he said were the most important? Love God and love your neighbor. Love is so underrated. And yes, he did say before went up to heaven: Go, therefore, and make disciples of people of all the nations, baptizing them . .. .and teaching them to obey all that I have commanded. . " What had he commanded them to do: "LOve one another as I have loved you". When you fall in love. . .or even when something really good happens to you, don't you usually tell people about it. Isn't that what preaching is? heralding something? Telling someone about something that happened. Back then it was. Jesus was resurrected! And they told people about that as they healed the sick and cured diseases and did other miricles. Me: well I've prayed for some things that I KNOW only God could have done for me and when I pray I make sure I include Jesus. I appreciate and thank him for his sacrifice. It is HIS name, the bible says, is above all others. It is in HIS name we pray to reach the father. And . . . Jesus said we can call God FATHER. He never said to call God by his proper name, Jehovah.. which by the way isn't his name. But you can look that up for yourself. I didn't mean to write so much. . . I just wanted to tell you. God is soooo real. Jesus is sooooo real. Look at God the way Jesus said we could. . as your Father, your Abba (Daddy). That puts him closer to you. It's like you can walk in a school yard full of big strong bullies and you are just a little skinny kid. But your dad is Arnold or The Rock. . no body is going to mess with you. You even have a little swagger of confidence in your walk. Well, my Father is God! And when you KNOW he loves you it makes a heck of a difference.

@franmorrison1080 5 лет назад

try originalgospel.blog

@rowdyboudy 8 лет назад

I found this very comforting. I really liked the point Robin made about the ark and how the hell did all those animals spread themselves around every continent if they landed in one spot ? Huh your brilliant Sherlock.

@dcfarmer-in-waiting4587 8 лет назад

I love your videos. You seem so happy. You still look like witnesses. :-)

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

Hilarious! I guess that's true!

@adventureswiththerobin 8 лет назад

+DC Farmer-in-Waiting Oh if you only knew, LOL! We keep it clean (so far) on our videos. Even since I was a teenager I talked like a sailor, haha! But we realize that there may be kids watching our videos, so we don't want to isolate anyone in our audience. Thanks!

@deborahmattern5660 8 лет назад

Let's also be clear..When the WT says believe in what they have to say regardless if it seems right from a human standpoint or not..That is NOWHERE in the bible..The WT...has made this up and God says something completely different in the bible...DO NOT OUT YOUR TRUST IN MERE MEN

@hillel70 8 лет назад

I understand your concerns related to the organization. What I want to know is whether or not you continued to believe in the Word and in G-d?

@zaphenathpaaeah5779 8 лет назад

The Bible said: theres a time 4 everything & every 1 ( Ecc 3:1-8 ) Yall come out on time, N the rest will 2 in due time. 1 Love

@jmalko9152 8 лет назад

Liked it!

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

Thanks John, love you're movies!

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

+What's up Watchtower? Haha

@carlaifera5254 6 лет назад

........bro......keep downloading the baggage from this season with the JW........God has preserved within you a man of strength/stability/wisdom.........persevere........the road to redemption can be tedious/exhausting........yet, brings forth a man of excellence.........stay the course........ \o/

@whatsupwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

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@crumpfamilyvalues7935 8 лет назад

It's great that you had each other. So many people that are married and 1 person wakes up are all alone. Fortunately I have a non believing husband so I have him and our kids. Phew, I'm so happy that I never got baptized and I only took my boys to the memorial every year so they don't remember a thing. Check out my channel when you get a chance. 👍👍👍😉😉

@jacoblieberman7492 5 лет назад

n 1969, the Watchtower published a reference book called "Aid to Bible Understanding." On pages 884 and 885 they explain that the Jews used to insert the vowels of "Adonai" into the Tetragrammaton "YHWH" to remember to say Lord (Adonai) instead of God's name while reading the sacred texts. The two words put together read: "Yehowah." In the year 1270 a Dominican Spanish monk by the name of Raymundus Martin published a book called "Pugeo Fidei" in which he wrote in the latinized form of "Yehowah" as "Jehovah". He was the first to do so. Today, the Watchtower will only tell you part of the facts. They won't tell you that Raymundus misread 2 words as one. In other words that Jehovah is a mistake. They will tell you that vowel points were inserted to try to find the correct pronunciation of God's name. The Watchtower soon realized the error they had made by publishing this information and quickly replaced "Aid to Bible understanding" by an other work called "Insight on the Scriptures, Vol. 1 & 2," © 1988 in which they removed that entire explanation. The mention of the book is also not available on the Watchtower CD Rom when searching for Raymundus Martini. Therefoire, Jehovah's witnesses continue to believe the lie that Jehovah is really God's name and the explanation that Jehovah is the English renderring of Yahweh when in truth, Jehovah is the LATINIZED form of a mistaken understanding of Hebrew practices of ancient times. If Jehovah's witnesses would know this then the entire religion would fall appart since they wear a false name since 1931 and give witness to that false name wherever they go.

@whatsupwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

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@jeffscanlin7826 2 года назад

From what I've experienced and have heard from others,if you are really paying attention you cannot help but realize the organization is a sham.Wanting to do something about that knowledge is another matter.

@whatsupwatchtower 10 месяцев назад

Yup!

@Jesusandbible 7 лет назад

Can you tell us about JWs and salvation by works? The Christian gospel is 1 Cor 15:1-4, and Luke 24:44-48, So how do JWs reject JESUS SAVES and add salvation by works? What do they believe the "do" to add to salvation and in effect earn it themselves, reducing Christ to a semi Saviour. How does this work? What brings about salvation to them?

@andreabryson2240 6 лет назад

I have nightmares about conventions too! Hahaha :D

@whatsupwatchtower 6 месяцев назад

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@RandomPerson-js3rc 5 лет назад

I always thought it was cruel that Abraham was fooled into almost sacrificing his son and then told "Just kidding !" Those things got me thinking too.

@RandomPerson-js3rc 5 лет назад

It was like a sociallight club where everyday you feel on display and judged. Its could be likend to a drama television show that reminds me of the office

@jamessteel1740 8 лет назад

...for an analysis of Luke 20:34-36 I suggest to study W 2014 Aug 15, p 29-30. I do not know if you are still a believer in Jehovah and the Holy Bible, if so read that article and the gospel of Luke 20. It's all about the 'marrying in the resurrectio'

@aaronenglehart5551 7 лет назад

I liked the "Draw close to Jehovahs" book

@mkultra7940 3 года назад

You know, it's the nitpicky stuff that really triggers me so hard. Like harassing my husband for having a beard, a beard which Jehovah put on his face. Once we got a great deal on a used Volvo that looked pret-ty nice, and a comment was made by a brother , half jokingly about "materialism". Then my husband told him that the car cost 10 grand and the guy was like, "Oh, wow, sorry" As if they have the right to dictate the price and modesty of your car, and since the car wasn't really all that expensive, then we get the pass. I like to make dresses and I have some that are downright fab-oo, I make and wear beautiful, mid century style dresses that make me feel like a million bucks(oh no, does that make me materalistic, too🙄) I have nowhere else to wear these frocks but the hall. It's downright discouraging when you're hearing from the grapevine that some sisters didn't think I was modest because I dress "too fancy" and "who does she think she is?" . There's no need for such micromanaging. But it's a huge and discouraging part of witness culture.

@whatsupwatchtower 10 месяцев назад

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@RandomPerson-js3rc 5 лет назад

911 triggered all fears in Armageddon for me and I was two years into my disfellowshiping at the time.

@emicast1018 6 лет назад

I peeked at their website and they actually have a part of their website to tell healthcare workers how to do their jobs???? Like I would not any information from those psychos on how to do my job. If their information was actually legitimate it would be published in my nursing school textbooks.

@whatsupwatchtower 6 месяцев назад

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@janejas7488 8 лет назад

From what I know of the bible, God/Jesus doesn't REQUEST/WANT/ NEED the same praise as when he is Heavenly Father.

@jayleneellis9308 5 лет назад

Eh I was the 3rd grader who told people that My MOTHER was a JW and she didn't want me to participate in the activities at school. I don't remember ever buying into the cult.

@jayleneellis9308 5 лет назад

I also hated how mother always had to stay and talk to everyone after the "meetings". Everyone seemed fake, boring, hypocritical... At least the adults did but most of the children were not interesting either. I got a game boy color, and got kinda in trouble for playing it AFTER the meeting. One of the other kids said that the game I was playing was violent and bad, it was Mario or Pokemon. These people could say that chess was bad because it was actually a war game. Bunch of Hippocrates too...

@jayleneellis9308 5 лет назад

I remember people shit talking about other 'witnesses' and one talk that compared gossip to poison or something. That actually made a lot of sense to me, and in a way still does. But I think I might have missed the point. I am not going to talk behind your back, I will tell you to your face what I think. And if I hear something about someone, I will ignore it, or go ask the person it's about if it is true. I always hated how back stabbie the people at the hall were.

@whatsupwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

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@whiteorchid1957 8 лет назад

I was similarly depressed and it began as a teenager. When I talked to an elder about it at the age of 15, he told me it was because I was secretly dwelling on sex. WTF? I told him nope but he was sure I was not being honest. As an adult and my elder husband decided he didn't want to be married anymore, an elder told me it was because I was not sufficiently rendering my due. Mind you this elder was an old "friend" in another congregation and had never talked to my husband to understand his thinking. They get off on talking about sex with young women.

@RandomPerson-js3rc 5 лет назад

I started dropping attendance because the negative fear based teaching about armageddon. The negative affects that had on my mental wellbeing was not beneficial to me.

@jessicacopland7382 8 лет назад

You guys. I wanna be your friend!

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

Get in touch with us... whatsupwatchtower@gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you.

@Conmezzo 7 лет назад

Do you ever wonder what became of the CO who emphasized Jesus?

@carlaifera5254 6 лет назад

.........soft-spoken/gentlemanly husband.........easily on the ears.........kindly toward his wife.........wife obviously lives in a loving/nurturing relationship........women benefit from reviewing their youtube vids........just sayin'........:)

@whatsupwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

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@JehovahsElijah 6 лет назад

@37:00 if i had a wife and someone said End Of Discussion in my house i would begin to beat them bloody saying YOU do not end my discussions in my house. But then that's why they play the rule card of come into our house the HALL. Still i would beat them if they ever took my son or my wife to counsel without me. And then i would make sure it goes to court knowing a jury would say these elders should be beaten if intruding on family with the semantic games in words they play.

@whatsupwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

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@exjwflatearther6554 8 лет назад

jahweh sa crazy angel, not the creator and he was definately not the father of Jesus. Jesus and Jahweh are opposite characters.But ur questions about the ark are eazlely answered, just google it. About a third of the ark was used for animals, the space was surely not an issue.

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

OMG, are you for real??

@lourdesmicallef1918 3 года назад

So I’m curious do you believe in God nowadays ?

@whatsupwatchtower 10 месяцев назад

We are spiritual in our own ways... we'll talk about it soon in a video

@janejas7488 8 лет назад

Go to church and See how those preachers live and how funds are demanded there. THEN you would have something to talk about.

@whatsupwatchtower 8 лет назад

At least when you give to a church, you know the money is going to that congregation and that preacher. How many witnesses know that their donations are used for legal fees and payouts to victims of child abuse.

@ericbulman1752 Год назад

Churches don't go after children's ice cream money and piggy bank money and they don't tell their members to only give to them and no one else and they don't go after members life insurance ,or 401 k , or their houses and other materials like the governing body

@myjwstory9654 8 лет назад

I call it the truth all the time lol

@JehovahsElijah 6 лет назад

@30:00 you do not understand what sovereign means. It doesn't mean in control. It means should a POTTER use a pot for what he design it, or should anything you make then control YOU and tell you what you have to do next for them. The idea of freedom to people is do anything you want (to other people) making you Master in your freedom and all other people or things a slave or something to destroy or vandalize, do as YOU wish as if YOU are the GOD. The issue merely answers, should God have started over? This question is there even if Satan is not an angel-person but just the bad in all people.

@whatsupwatchtower 6 месяцев назад

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@VAI-to3hb 8 лет назад

Well, it's good to see you have gotten out of the Watchtower organization.. But it's sad to see that you have become what appears to be atheists.

@VAI-to3hb 7 лет назад

randyp070129... "Why"?.. Well, it's sad to see they have become what appears to be atheists simply because God is real even though the Watchtower religion is nothing but a cult.

@vusimngomezulu2500 3 года назад

If you love Jehovah's witnesses u love Jehovah God and Jesus christ John 17:21,Isaiah 43:10-12,Reve 1:5,and the truth John 8:32,17:17,1thimoty 2:3-4.

@ericbulman1752 Год назад

That's just your opinion . Loving jws is not loving God and Jesus

@whatsupwatchtower 10 месяцев назад

Not the same thing

@janejas7488 8 лет назад

Cheat on each other. You can CLEARLY TELL THAT IS ON THE GENTS MIND. I SEE IT COMING. I, having NOT been protected growing up, can read men like the back of my hand. Take your ass to college like I did. Take my goddamned student loan debt while you are at it.

@dllivery7 Год назад

I like you guys

@JehovahsElijah 6 лет назад

There must be a Devil a Satan because every precise exact truth has an opposite LIE and somehow just how does that happen. How are deliberate opposite lies created fro everything by everyone. Thomas didn't doubt the resurrection, he was doubting 10 other apostles telling him. How many proofs do you need if OTHERS do have that proof to show you and prove it to you. Thomas is not an example of blind doubt because the others had already seen Jesus.

@whatsupwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

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@eloiseramsey9276 4 года назад

Jesus finished work on the cross marked the beginning of the end of life as we know it. We don't know what that look like, it's not the pictures that jw show us. To accept christ you have to accept your a sinner jw want to believe they are cleansed of their sins through the organization.

@whatsupwatchtower 10 месяцев назад

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@JehovahsElijah 6 лет назад

Trust in Jehovah are words opposite of actually trusting in him. YOu trust in him for answers by seeking and finding the answers. Trusting him means being able to throw the false answers out. The problem with pretending to be JW is the idea to stay stupid and then curse anyone who is learning TRUTH. The lazy are saying YOU MAKE ME LOOK BAD as if your true efforts are an intent to look better to these stupid jealous ones. Waiting on Jehovah and trusting in him are not the same. Waiting means wait for his answer, but that means to find answers and wait for the proof of which answers are true. YOU do not wait by doing nothing because that is the wicked that James wrote to and said i will show you my proof i have faith by the works i do seeking to prove all that faith. You have no faith it is dead if you pretend to have it and seek nothing. People claim faith in Jehovah and yet believe dinosaurs are 65 million BC. People claim faith in Jehovah that they will survive armageddon to stay married forever while they buthole pack-crap the wife. Faith is a lie if you cannot prove what you have faith in and how yo prove you have that faith. Then being dead faith means its a lie, you do not have it at all, you lie to yourself. Anyone tossed from this lie as faith to that lie as faith back to this lie claimed as truth then proven another way claimed as truth can find truth above and beyond WT lie without going to, and accepting the world's lies. Truth is not dump one org for a different org. Nor is truth the new fabricate anything you want so you do not have to tolerate any org at all. I have NEVER controlled anyone who i have taught truth to. My truth is free, because i get it from God Jehovah free. No copyrights here. All people twist whether it is copyrighted or not. I said this on the hone to WT when given the big copyright warning, I said Jehovah gives free, so i also give free, and you should too! i said to them, i have no copyrights for what Jehovah gives me. Wish i had said DO YOU?

@whatsupwatchtower 6 месяцев назад

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@JehovahsElijah 6 лет назад

@7:45 it is not MAN rules, it is not woman must be subject, you have plenty of power by saying okay honey these are the facts, make a decision what we will do together as a couple. Rebecca did not march into Isaac and say hey you're gonna give it all to Jacob not to Esau. Instead man to man she sent Jacob into Isaac. I understand that wicked JW elders would justify annulling the blessing by Dfing Jacob for lie and fraud. But it is not Jehovah because where do you see sons of Esau but rather you see all the Jews the sons of Jacob Israel. Thus the future was predictable by a woman Rebecca. What she did was not usurp her husband, because she didnt make the confrontation.

@whatsupwatchtower 6 месяцев назад

Wow

@JehovahsElijah 6 лет назад

I know things disproving evolution by mere historic fact. The Shar or Sar, 4th ruler or Czar from Methuselah's birth is the angel who married a woman and gave her a Nephilim child. HIs name is Kichunna and he lived near Enoch in the city of Larsa (El-Lassar), confusion exists whether Larsa is the city of Enoch or Enoch's city is a suburb of Larsa. After the Flood, Noah and his family forbid they build on the foundations of Larsa, and so there was no Larsa until 2020bc when Noah died in 2021bc Dec 25. The 260-year kingship of Larsa measures in 360-day calendar a span of 257 years 2020-1763bc. The reason Larsa was forbid to build is because it is where Enoch cursed the first ruler Czar Alulim for passing the throne to Kichunna despite this killing of a man as "justice" then giving the guy's wife a son. Alulim the angle then struck Enoch in the name of God as being a rebel of God and with anti-matter Enoch standing in the crowd beside people and he dematerialized into the air. Tus it was agreed God took him, but most said took him for daring to oppose the elders (from heaven, the older brothers of humans) while Enoch's whole family down to Noah were taught God allowed this (took him) to end his suffering by the selfish angels. It is the same issue the whole 6000 years.

@whatsupwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

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@carlaifera5254 6 лет назад

........please........lose the laugh.........spoken in love.........hugs.

@whatsupwatchtower 9 месяцев назад

Never

@janejas7488 8 лет назад

Of course they are annoying knocking on door and out there with their mags. But you all are making me want to really look into that religion because I as a young person had NO guidance and would have LOVED someone to warn me about life's pitfalls. INGREATS!! Leave if you don't like it. Tired.