Episode 113 | Getting Real with the Enneagram: Nine - The Peacemaker 

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Yesssss. That's been my whole life- just seeing every direction I could go and feeling paralyzed

Me too brother, me too. Now I am 31... I guess I need to get to work

I am facing same problem.

@@thedebriefpodcast I need five dollars to buy a jumbo box of Mr. Freezies

Same. I am an extremely busy and active procrastinator.

Have you watched his sermon on the 9? It is such an eye opener. I am a 9 as well. It all makes sense. My life makes sense now!!

Same lol

9 here, and I agree. I paused the video, grabbed a pen and paper, and wrote them down. As someone who is hesitant to tell people they might need to do something differently these sentence starters are a great way to soften the advice if I feel the recipient might take offense.

Totally agree!!!

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Totally agree with this statement. Someone needs some humble pie.

Thank you for the warning. Will skip it. People who dominate the conversation- so annoying and selfish.

Totally! An 8/3 who hogs the stage and “hates” on 9’s dilemmas is the wrong person to interview them. They deserve the gentle kindness they give to others. He says people who are not self aware drive him crazy at the same moment he is unaware of his own hogging their time!

Thank you, Yes! Republic of Malawi and the country of Tanzania; and not 'because they're white' the belief was their parts have special powers bringing wealth/good fortune

LOL That's because type 9's like to let other people speak and listen before we speak - one of the few types of people that are OK with a little dead air in the conversation we don't jump into the conversation immediately and it makes other types talk more.

The other videos are like that, too. It isn't just a 9 thing; it's more to do with the "layout" of the podcast.

Yes, its just fascinating that there is so much talk about declarative statements, but then the pastor will make them for the nine's without asking them if they believe that to be true about themselves. Such great content, but as a 9- it hurts to listen to their nuggets of wisdom be looked over and them to spoken about rather than too.

That’s because the guy who isn’t a 9 is an 8. They LOVE to be heard, to be center of attention, to be the “authority” in EVERYTHING. I dated one (a very unhealthy one) for a long time. Now I can immediately spot them and, unfortunately, am repulsed by their personality.

I am 9w1 too. Do you know jiddu krishnamurti? I found him to be authentic.

@@lokeshparihar7672 I dont, currently I am watching videos by Gelong Thubten.

Thinking the same.....

This is classic. The 8 pastor takes charge and monopolies the conversation. He’s the expert on what it means to be a 9. The 9’s here are such good listeners. Although we all want to hear from them, not the 8, they are polite, back off and let him have center stage. Funny when the pastor tells the 9’s how they feel and how they see life.

Yea as a 9 I like the topics and discussion but sometimes it's hard to see the forest through the trees. Leaders in christians circles tend to really default into leading when sometimes they should follow.

The force is strong with this comment.

That witch doctor comment was in regard to a Bob Goff story.

You don't understand the wings either: "It is highly likely that Riso tried to avoid the criticism that it is unlikely that people would nicely ‘fit in a box’ by pulling a switcheroo: claiming each type has a “wing” of the adjacent types. Much to my delight, this adaptation of the theory was tested by Edwards (1991) and found to be wrong. Of course, one can switcheroo ad infinitum, and that is exactly what Riso did: he later wrote that it is possible for someone to have a ‘wing’ of a non-adjacent type. Okay, so any type will do now. Right." - (Vermeren, A Skeptic's HR Dictionary, 2019). The wing theory literally failed the test. For being such an "ancient wisdom tool", it sure did need to be twisted and altered to try and make any sense (and even then it still failed miserably).

Nines can make great therapists because they can see so many different sides of the issue. I would also argue that deep conversation and hard conversation can be very different. I would love to go deep with someone and get to know them way better and ask intentional questions; however, the thought of trudging through something that includes conflict and hard conversations where I know people will be upset, hurt, and angry I don't want any a part of. Also, 9's are known as the crown of the enneagram and can usually on some level identify with all other types. There is a part of us that resonates with each individual one since we sit on top, this can be great but I have heard it said that sometimes 9's will identify with everyone but other 9's. As far as not being passive aggressive, I am super passive aggressive but I think it's the overall idea - 9's struggle with anger and letting it out in a healthy way so maybe you are not passive aggressive but I would look inward and see if there are other ways that you unhealthily let out anger.

'That's very interesting. Thanks for writing! I am going to think on that!

Personality tests dont and can't ever actually define a person. People are too complex to be reduced to a number.

I’m a 9 and I’m not passive aggressive and I love deep conversation. When you are a healthy 9 you don’t always have unhealthy traits manifesting in your life.

Where can we take the test please?

You can only be one enneagramm type. Of course you will have a little bit of others, but the intentions that move your decisions have only one root. Wings from 9 are 8 and 1. Which of both wings has more influence in your personality. The arrows are 3 and 6. They stands for growth and development. It's interesting that both man's 9 are married to 6 types.

speak the truth in love, you shouldn't lose them! :) practise will make it easier:)

For the sake of what's right.

Loved the whole series expect that part of the comment as well. Sometimes western cultural lens believe/think the ways to understand other cultures is only through their own

@@heliTg so we shouldn't want to protect people in other countries? I don't really know much about Bob Goff.

Like A Grape Oh no, this not what I meant at all! We need to call out things as they are! Call evil for what it is and good for what it is! But it’s very important as ppl living in the west(North America) to be aware of our we tendency to say what is right and wrong form the lens/perspective of out western world instead of the lenses of those who practice it! The comment about “Africa” is one example! Africa is not a monolith but it was described as one when he mentioned/talked about albinos in “Africa”. Context matter when talking about issues particularly in the global south

@@heliTg I'd agree that we do have a tendency to think of Africa as just one big country. Although I think that bad things are still bad no matter what culture is doing it. Just because a certain culture says that something is ok doesn't mean that it is. Human life should be protected in all cultures.

The book is Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Peter Scazzero!

I don’t know what they took but I took mine on enneagram institute website

The Enneagram Institute is New Age. Look up Melissa Dougherty, Doreen Virtue, Steven Bancarz and Marcia Montenegro for why THAT'S BAD. Come on.

Andrew Cramer understanding personalities is helpful. I’ll go with good fruit anyway.

I'd just read a book about the types.

There is no such thing as an accurate test. The types can change depending on which New Ager you're asking. Mark and avoid it.

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They're not though

I dont believe you can be an 8 3 there are no lines between them on the enneagram nor are they adjacent to each other to be wings. They are frequently confused however because both are assertive types, they make things happen, they direct other people and both have lots of energy, however they have different underlying core fears, desires and motivations. This is the difficulty of learning on test results, it may not increase self knowledge which has to be grown to correctly discern the self.

Right...

If you watched his Enneageam sermons at his church, you would know that he is a type 3 and has a lot of 7 tendencies. Its not a major ego, it’s just his personality to be naturally more bold and cracking jokes

A lot of great opportunities to leverage the Enneagram teachings, no?

I'm scrolling through the comments reading them and I seen that comment more than once about his ego LOL