Come join us as we go into one of the Crew Berthing areas and into the Chief's Quarters. We will also talk about the first Chief of the Boat (COB) for Nautilus - Leroy Ingles
Me too, plus I’d feel like a sardine! Plus I can’t swim back to land from the subs. That sealift requires a special breed of person, certainly not a claustrophobic.
I live here in groton conn and go by the nautilus every time but never had the privilege to go on board to see this historical submarine. Respect all the sailors who have served. Thankyou.
Was enjoying this video then realized I went to high school with Commander Boyd. Looking good Brad! Thanks for the tour. This is great. Hope you are well.
Outstanding CMDR. Telling it like it is. The Enlisted ranks get it done. And the Chief is the link between the Officers and the deck plate. Retired EMC(SS) here. Great series. You tell it like it is. Work hard and fight the Ship. Thanks.
I went on board the Nautilus as an SK in 1971. During that time we spent most of our time in the North Atlantic chasing the Russians during the Cold War. Never did like the North Atlantic in the winter!
My father served 25 years in navy. He made chief petty officer and in the 90s they had something called the tiger cruise were the sons or daughters of the enlisted men take a 3 day cruise on the ship. I was able to sleep in the chiefs goat locker and eat in the chiefs mess and explore the ship with my pops. We shot the 50 cal torrents and machine gun. Im disappointed with myself i never joined the military
On they intrepid 1970 we did a dependence cruise a day out in the ocean got out in the blue water hit a bad storm three days later they got off mader than hell
That was very interesting. I was on a Gearing Class Destroyer starting in 1968 and had a lot more room to spread out. BUT, the sub that you just gave a little of had more room in it than I expected. It was well laid out. No, "Hot Racks?" Pretty good. I though it would have been the other way around. Not racks on that boat and no hot racks on modern boats. I did not expect that. Thanks for the interesting and very informative video. Barry
I deployed on LA class and Permit class boats. I had the same reaction about the "loads" of space the first time I toured Nautilus. It really felt spacious to me.
It’s fascinating to me that has submarine technology advances, that were actually going back to hot bunking. I thought that was a thing of the past, and I can’t honestly see that that’s going to help recruiting.
That's why I liked the Air Force. Once I went to flight crew (EC-121, same thing as the Navy's WV), as an E-2 I had a one man room and it ALWAYS had air conditioning. And if the A/C didn't work, we didn't fly... crew rest requirements.
What a terrific presentation, Commander. I thoroughly enjoyed it, and actually learned a few things, such as the fact that there was initially an exam for SCPO & MCPO. One very important duty of a Chief that was missed is the training of junior officers.
I toured the Nautilus... even by submarine standards, the enlisted berthings were extremely tight. One short passageway to a six-pack was only about 18" wide
After standing watch, doing your regular job, and several collateral duties, one is too damn tired to worry about my bunk. I never had any trouble sleeping in the sub's CPO bunk room, except maybe when the skipper was doing angles and dangles. CWO4 USN Ret.
Even more impressive than serving and living in the boat is designing it. Every f-ing piece of sheet metal must be considered for all the nooks and cubbies.
Back in 1965 the Navy offered me submarine school if I would re-enlist. I declined and that was one of the best decisions I ever made in my life. You can exist on a sub but it really isn’t much of a life. Can you imagine living like that or worse for the junnior enlisted. For months at a time. People in jail have it better than that.
What exactly is the purpose of the camo uniform? I get why a tiny number of naval personnel have a requirement for camo (SEALs, medics attached to Marines) but what exactly is the purpose of camp on a submarine?
We only wear them in port. At sea we use a version of coveralls. The camo uniform became a standardization of uniforms between services (although all of the differ slightly).
@@maxsdad538 I am a Marine 1966,67, 68. I once saw our 1st Sgt. E8 Tell a butter bar, "sorry sir I did not hear you knock before entering my office" the butterbar gently learned a custom that day. LOL
My father was a sonarman on the Nautilus when it went to Antarctica. I would love to get some record or information about his time on the Nautilus. Anything would be great.
When I was in I wore dungarees. They were supposed to be the uniform you wore when you had to do dirty work and you didn't care what happened to them. Honestly most of us didn't like them. But wearing a camo pattern uniform on a ship is just silly.
Only Marines, Seals, Master at Arms, or EOD should wear cammies on board. Swabbies need to return to blues. I almost forgot the Corpsmen. They earned the right too. Semper Fi to all my brother Shellbacks.
You forgot to tell them the most important thing when using the head!!! Gotta make sure they're not clearing the tanks, you open that ball valve its gonna be a disaster !!!!😁 But they shut down the head when they're doing that.
LOL. I remember on the 599 a dude was half asleep and went into the head, took a piss and opened the valve while we were blowing sanitary tanks. Jesus the smell. LOL. So long ago...
No chance of showing anything in the Engineering spaces? Hard to believe it would still be classified more than 40 years post decommissioning. I understand the Engineroom was similarly equipped with plexiglass panels when prepped as a museum boat and even that the lighting was improved in the Enginerrom this last drydock period.
There was also another Deck House for the After Section as well. I was attached and the ER and Reactor Compartment are actually kind cool. But you are correct its classified even to this day.
You need to slow your camera movements down. I couldn't count the number of racks in that berthing space. Was it 6 or 8? Either way how is that 10 people sharing the space?
Tighter quarters than in prison. These folks sacrifice so much even in peacetime time. No room to stretch out. No privacy. No opportunity to go out with friends to blow if steam on Friday after work. No seeing family for 6 months at a time. Not seeing their babies' taking their first steps or their birthdays or spouse's birthdays. So repsect to all military.
Not always - they would have at least 12, sometimes more. In the case where they have more chiefs than racks in Chief's berthing they would have the most junior Chief(s) sleep in junior enlisted berthing until a more senior chief rotated off and they would move to that bunk. Same practice today.
Since space is limited, and there are no offices per say, for a Chief; do they use an Ipad or a Laptop computer to do their business such as keeping track of personnel actions, etc?
In Your opinion, what is the most important quality in a person that makes them a good fit for a sub crew? I would imagine that Navy is focusing on the mental shape more vs.physical?
@@greg5023 yeah you fieldday that head forever. The sad part is that the instructions are posted and they put signs up and someone forgets. People who haven't been on Submarines has no idea
Definitely would be hard for a person who was addicted to drugs to do their thing on a sub. No privacy at all except bathroom and maybe pulling shades up in your bunk. Are there random drug test on a sub?
So if you were fortunate enough to serve a long time ago you got your own bed but now in modern America you have to share a bed? Incentive enough to "NOT" volunteer for submarine duty.
At the very least, the presenter is not familiar with enlisted life on board a boat. I'm not even sure that he has served on a boat regardless of the insignia on his uniform. Most likely a wep-o or other coner. On Henry Clay SSBN625 the chiefs ate at 2 reserved tables on the mess deck not in the goat locker. The lockers in the berthing were not generally used for 'shower stuff'; that was usually in the bed pan or drawer. The locker was for uniforms or no crush items. Of course an individual sailor could stow his gear where he saw fit in his personal space.
Where the chiefs ate depended on where and what the layout of the quarters where. On Los Angeles class, Seawolf class, Virginia class, and Ohio class there definitely is no meal service in the goat locker. Everything is eaten on crew's mess with one or two tables reserved (depending on the size of the tables on Crew's mess), none of those stationed here at Nautilus have been on any other class of submarine. We have had Chief's onboard Nautilus tell us where they ate - sometimes it was on crew's mess and sometimes in their locker area. All depended on what was going on and if they wanted to have a working meal out of the crew's area. Given their proximity to the crew's mess it was an option for them the way it really isn't onboard modern boats. As for the lockers in berthing - you are correct - it could be whatever they chose to put there. On a 688 class submarine there typically weren't any lockers outside of the bedpan (maybe one per 4 or five people - and then not consistently - depends on whether you are in forward berthing, aft berthing, 21-man, or 9-man and 9-man was a mix of JO overflow berthing and enlisted). We should have consulted with Nautilus crew members as to what they used it for, but our own enlisted serving here didn't get their own lockers typically (with only a handful of exceptions - the ones stationed on Ohio Class submarines). What went into the locker was usually the no crush items as you said. In many cases dress uniforms would be combined in a divisional stowage area for deployment. Thank you for serving and pointing out where you and your crew would typically keep things. As with every boat in the Navy, things differ depending on storage and berthing constraints, and how sailors banded together to come up with innovative stowage solutions.
@@submarineforcemuseum1739 Thanks for your reply. Yes, the amenities on the different classes varied; and sometimes varied greatly within a class. After leaving the Navy I worked at Newport News Shipbuilding (non-nuclear carrier piping engineering) but got to witness the process by which identical ships soon become nonidentical. One datum for your consideration is that most of the enlisted (at least 1st and below) kept their dress uniform (cracker jacks) laid out between the mattress and bedpan. When the uniform was folded properly this became a self-pressing storage method. I was taught that by the old timers who came from diesel boats, so I would imagine that Nautilus crew would have known it too. I always preferred the outboard areas of main crew berthing lowest rack. That was it was an easy in to the rack when returning from the beach and easy out during drills and casualties. The downside was that bedpan stowage was limited. I'm enjoying the remainder of the series (have to ration myself to one per day max lest I binge) and do find it interesting how more recent boat-people experienced life (I work with a fair number of guys whose EAOS was late 90s to just a few years ago).
Thank you - some of our crew would store their uniform between the mattress and bed-pan, but really only the senior 1st class could do that on a deployment. Everyone else was subject to hot racking or berthing shifts as guests came onboard. On 688's the fan room was the common storage spot for many of the divisions junior enlisted. Radio always managed to find room in their outboards for their divisions... Glad you are enjoying the series!
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@@Menaceblue3 Yup. I concur. It's pretty sad because I'm sure his mother had high hopes for him. If she's still alive I hope she doesn't see this video.