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0:00 Intro
0:24 Grind the Concrete
0:46 Color match epoxy & chips
1:16 Cleaning dust off of the concrete
1:37 Mixing epoxy primer
2:02 Applying epoxy vapor barrier
3:08 Broadcasting vinyl chips
4:33 Day two - new van wrap
4:52 Scraping chips off of the floor
5:13 Mixing polyaspartic top coat
5:20 Applying polyaspartic top coat
6:10 Picking up excess polyaspartic off of the floor
We started this project by grinding old paint off of the garage floor.
Then we applied our epoxy primer with vapor barrier properties & broadcast vinyl chips to rejection.
We came back the next day to clean up all of the excess chips, and then we applied a coat of clear polyaspartic urethane.
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@carloscortes4312 Год назад

I have been looking at epoxy/polyaspartic floors for several years now. I do not know Tim nor do I know his team. I started my business last year and was sold on one day floors. If you speak to resinous experts as opposed to product pushers, you will find that Tim's way of installing these floors is the way to go. His videos are very helpful and he explains why he chooses an epoxy basecoat with a poyaspartic top coat. Since switching to his way of installing, I have had no issues plus my floors are consistent and beautiful. It plainly and simply allows you to do a better job for your customers.

@rb8049 Год назад

Yes, got this combo. It’s the correct install!

@toadshrm 22 дня назад

Hmm it’s not a one day floor. Two day install

@carloscortes4312 21 день назад

@@toadshrm Polyaspartic floors are being pushed and sold as one day floors. I said Tim's way of installing resinous floors is the way to go (2 day floors). I think you misunderstood.

@daviddaniels162 Год назад

Thank you! I've been dying to see how your prep goes in more detail.

@TimDCVA Год назад

👍🏻👍🏻 I usually skip showing the prep because it’s kind of boring. Haha.

@rjavierr123 5 месяцев назад

Awesome Work!👌 I’ve done many garage floors myself here in South FL.🌴

@kgmoore1797 Год назад

Tim & DCVA Team - Thanks for coming out to Eden, NC and being a major contributor to our garage overhaul. Everyone comments on the floor and say it’s the best they’ve ever seen. Avoid DIY Kits and call Tim DCVA!!

@TimDCVA Год назад

Thanks Kelly! We appreciate you letting us do the job.

@Bowdoins Год назад

Looks awesome !!!

@Nuevacriatura840 8 месяцев назад

Hi looks fantastic, great job, keep doing that, the thing is the people they don't want to pay for the good work as you are doing it 'congratulations

@dadfixdit Год назад

Wow another great one Tim! I agree, the varied chip size makes a big difference. Looks a lot more natural. Haven’t seen that before. Good job!

@TimDCVA Год назад

Thanks!

@l.h.c.powerwashing7289 Год назад

@@TimDCVA hi Tim I live in Virginia myself and would like to know where I can purchase these products. ? Thanks

@apilkey 10 месяцев назад

@@TimDCVAHi how many clear top coats do you put over the flakes? Enough to fill in all the voids plus have a smooth finish like say 2mm over the flakes?

@TimDCVA 10 месяцев назад

I cover that in my course. decorativeconcreteschool.com

@TimDCVA 10 месяцев назад

We usually do one coat because I like the light texture it leaves behind.

@ConcreteBVI Год назад

Sweet new van 🚐🙌🏼🙌🏼🙌🏼

@TimDCVA Год назад

Thanks!

@kevinhall5311 Год назад

Josh Jones! Ha Ha That where I learned it! Josh is a great resource! The multi color multi size looks great! Nice Job Tim!

@TimDCVA Год назад

Yeah he really is a good resource. Thanks!

@1malakias Год назад

Please help I need to get better,just started doing garage floor ,I have problems leaving roller marks and apply clear coat,help me

@TimDCVA Год назад

Is this for a new business you started? If so, you should check this out: decorativeconcreteschool.teachable.com

@rocksteady6448 Год назад

I use a especial formulated sealer for the chips for the first coat then I use a water-based urethane for the top coat

@dirtymikeandtheboyz2570 Год назад

This is how my floors were done and I totally recommend everyone else to hire cus its not easy. Don't ever get that home depot or lowes junk either lol. If u hire someone and they want to pressure wash vs grind, turn them away immediately!!!!

@xJI00 Год назад

That’s Awesome Tim. Next time you want a working holiday to Australia 👍🏼 So hard to get good contractors who care about the job.

@TimDCVA Год назад

That sounds awesome. How big is the project? Ha.

@xJI00 Год назад

@@TimDCVA Small :| just an average size double garage. They don’t make them big here.

@TimDCVA Год назад

Haha.

@johnmoen6639 Год назад

What is that chip blend! It looks amazing. Would love to know how you go it.

@vidkidruss 10 месяцев назад

Have you met anyone in Austin,TX area that follows the same process as you? I like your method! Great video, thank you!!

@tobychalmers8103 3 месяца назад

Great video mate. If using a water based epoxy , can you hose the floor down after the grind and vacuum to ensure all loose material has been removed? Thank you 🙏

@GRUBB-MUDD Год назад

man i just did a silver/ grey sealer today it turned out pretty good, I am going to make a youtube video about it too

@TimDCVA Год назад

Nice. 👍🏻

@willrandall9046 4 месяца назад

Could use a quote for two-car oversized garage ~600 sqft. in SE PA.

@RandySavage_ Год назад

What epoxy primer are you using? Would love to buy some for my garage

@cjgropper 3 месяца назад

This video is excellent. 2 questions though. If the concrete has sawn cut control joints how do you avoid filling them while doing the rest of the floor and what do you use to fill them after the the floor is done (assuming you don’t want the floor seamless which I don’t ) Also, can you share what supplier you use ?

@systadtmauer2491 Год назад

Tim, I live in Naples, Florida. Is it possible to say approximately how much it should cost me to do a two car garage and a one car car garage?

@rogerhodges7656 Год назад

In another vdeo, I think that you mentioned a moisture vapor barrier epoxy that resisted 20 pounds of moisture vapor. What was that video and product?

@user-im1yt8nf7u 4 месяца назад

Hello, great video! We are a new company that specializes in the epoxy/flake Polyaspartic systems and we are doing our first small driveway. I was told to do a MVB epoxy, then put a tinted polyaspartic, flaking into that, followed up with a polyaspartic clear topcoat. Does that sound right? or? Thanks : )

@rocksteady6448 Год назад

Your chip comes with a recommended color ,it comes down to the prep of the floor ,it's not hard if you know what your doing

@chasefreeman8219 Год назад

I love your stuff - Do you have a product list/links for the Epoxy, Polyaspartic top coat, and the chips for us DIYers? I'd rather not use a pre-made kit that doesn't take advantage of your wonderful advice. I'm way too far to hire you :)

@TimVogel-wc1xg 2 месяца назад

any way to get a spec sheet for materials you use?

@lao8277 4 месяца назад

Any thoughts on a double broadcast Quartz system?

@carlcarlamos9055 Месяц назад

Can the flakes be deleted. They are camouflage for dropped parts. That makes them a deal killer. Thanks and take care.

@mikehall8221 Год назад

You guys want to come to Kenly NC? ;)

@-blackwindsgeography8133 Год назад

Nice video! I saw your guys alway let those flakes stay there over night. I also see there are one day kits on the market. I just wonder if there is a quality difference between these two type of products

@TimDCVA Год назад

Thanks! I made a video that explains my preference here: Epoxy, Polyurea or Polyaspartic : Which is the BEST garage floor coating? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--q8YUWBxk3E.html

@JoanMeyers-or8qy 23 дня назад

2:58 looking into having garage done in the Tricies Tn Area. Do you know any reliable companies in this area?

@SRC503 Год назад

Is there a link to where I can buy the polyurea?

@user-hf9gx9bb9y 5 месяцев назад

Your work was great. How can I order flake? I live in Iran. Is it possible to help me in this matter?

@boshao13 Год назад

Hey there! I run a epoxy coating company as well. would you share where you source your materials from? I feel like I am currently paying too much for polyaspartic from our supplier (280/kit ~ 160sqft)

@davelane1089 Год назад

How well would this work on a 1,800 sqft garage?

@JK-de8sl Год назад

Love the way you get it done man I live in Gainesville Virginia near Manassas. How do I get a quote from you? Thank you John

@TimDCVA Год назад

Thank you! The best way to get a quote is to fill out the contact form on my webpage. www.decorativeconcreteofvirginia.com/contact-us

@David-brown216 3 месяца назад

Can this product be applied in 1 day

@juanarmenta5199 9 месяцев назад

I live in Raleigh where can I get that product?

@LDavis-ll5yr 8 месяцев назад

Question: Setting the application of an "epoxy vapor barrier" aside for one moment, and ONLY looking at an epoxy base coat vs an aspartic base coat, and assuming an installer is a pro at handling either of these, is there any advantage of one vs the other? Comparing these two BASE COAT choices (epoxy vs aspartic), it seems that all the pros and cons I have found relate to the convenience of the installer. Epoxy sets up slower, aspartic faster. Epoxy requires warmer application temps than aspartic. Etc. It seems that aspartic has faster setup and is more forgiving temp-wise, but if the installation team is familiar with it, shouldn't it be okay? So, if all conditions are perfect for each type of base coat, and the installer is very experienced with either, which delivers a better floor generally? Is one outstanding over the other? Or, do they deliver about the same results and it just comes down to installer details and the applied product's formulation?

@tretatt Месяц назад

What’s the vaccuum? Dewalt hepa? What size, specs?

@JamesSCavenaugh Год назад

Any aluminum flakes? I think that would look nice and shiny.

@clevercoatings5938 Год назад

Hey Tim, Thank you so much for your videos they really help me a lot in my newly established epoxy business. I was battling for a while on the epoxy vs polyurea base coat issue and while searching on Google polyurea always came up as the better solution pitched by mostly franchises. However when digging deeper and calling up companies that have been in the space for a while, they still swear by epoxy mainly because it creates a stronger bond during the curing process. Your video just confirmed to go with the 2 day install. I have one question. Do you guys grind an opening/line where the epoxy ends below the garage door for extra anchorage and protection?

@TimDCVA Год назад

Thanks. That’s awesome to hear. I’m glad they’ve been helpful. Whenever we are doing a garage floor, we will take a straight 2x4 and place it in the middle of where the door lands. Then we will take our hand grinder and run it up against the board so that it grinds a perfectly straight line. The hand grinder is also more aggressive so it cuts the concrete lower than the unground concrete, which creates a key way for the epoxy to stop in.

@floralong5290 Год назад

Can you apply the same material to a 3” to 4” outing above the floor?

@shrodingerschat2258 Год назад

These floors are beautiful! Are you able to reuse the chips you scrape off?

@TimDCVA Год назад

Yes we can reuse them.

@shrodingerschat2258 Год назад

@@TimDCVA Nice! One day I would like to have my garage floor done. Hopefully I can find someone in my area that does a great a job as you guys do.

@gearlstrickland3365 2 месяца назад

How long does it last?

@Bearsfan33 19 дней назад

So you don’t go to the home and give an estimate you do all quotes by text or email? What if there are cracks or some kind of damage to the concrete do you fix those or just put the epoxy down?

@Thoughts_today Год назад

Hi Tim, would you do a deck off condo at North Mrytle beach, 4th floor on the beach? Do you also travel to Raleigh Nc Thank you !

@TimDCVA Год назад

We do occasionally work in RDU. It just depends on the project. We haven’t worked in MB before… but we would consider it depending on the project. We spend a lot of time in Surfside during the summer anyways. 👍🏻 Fill out this form if you want to check with us about getting a quote. www.decorativeconcreteofvirginia.com/contact-us

@rick5489 Год назад

Great videos. I'm in south Florida. How can I get info on your products?

@TimDCVA Год назад

Thanks! We use 100% solids epoxy with 90% solids polyaspartic. Most installers can probably get similar products.

@robertking5701 Год назад

How much to do an 18' x 20' garage?

@ziggy7912 4 месяца назад

In Europe we dont need moisture barier becouse we have one built in homes/garages 1-concrete 2-Xps/Styrofoam 3. vaporbarier 4. finish Concrete

@rh6761 9 месяцев назад

How many miles does it have on it?

@manoykulukoy2926 7 месяцев назад

How much that's cost double garage vinyl flakes garage epoxy?

@hoody2141 3 месяца назад

What is the name of the product your using?

@mantella284 Месяц назад

I know this is an older video but I thought I’d shoot my question anyways. Hopefully you guys see it. I’m wondering do the flakes add enough grip? Or should sand be added? If so when exactly does the sand get broadcasted?? Thank you

@TimDCVA Месяц назад

Hey! I think the flakes add enough but it is personal preference. For customers that want more grip than normal we will add shark grip from Sherwin into the top coat.

@mantella284 Месяц назад

@@TimDCVA thank you for the response! We are newly adding this scope of work so I was unsure. 🙏

@davemoore9959 Год назад

Afternoon Tim, I live on the Eastern Shore of Va and have a 28 x 32 garage with raw concrete never treated or painted. We built it in 2001 and have been holding off coating the floor due to all the horror stories about epoxy coatings. Looking for a rough idea on cost to get it done. And I guess my next question is do you service my area 23350. Thanks! Dave

@TimDCVA Год назад

Hey Dave. I love the eastern shore. I’m not sure if we’d take that on or not. Would you mind filling this out (including photos) and I can let you know? www.decorativeconcreteofvirginia.com/contact-us

@tomjones6777 Год назад

Are epoxy floors slippery when wet ? When the particles are added ( broadcast to rejection) does it make the finished floor hard to clean ( because of the rough surface texture) ?

@user-tc5ss3ud4z Месяц назад

At full rejection put your top coat down around 120 - 130 square feet per gallon

@tomjones6777 Месяц назад

@@user-tc5ss3ud4z Thank you.

@hanwagu9967 Год назад

why do you end where the garage door comes down rather than over the edge or covering to the threshold gap? I had mine coated to the threshold gap because you are rolling over the edge with your car all the time and you are leaving the possibility of separation at the edge especially if there is a higher lip.

@TimDCVA Год назад

I’ve never had any issues with the edge separating from the concrete. We grind a straight line under the door, which recesses the coating a little below the exterior concrete anyways. Also… i don’t like the way the interior floor looks outside when the garage door is down. It rarely matches the decor of a house.

@dahrafs9798 Год назад

Is it a good Idea to use epoxy instead of tiles in residential living rooms? I mean is it safe to drag furniture on epoxy?

@TimDCVA Год назад

We do epoxy basements all the time… but you shouldn’t drag furniture on any type of floor.

@kenbolick6292 7 месяцев назад

Great video! When you scrape the excess chips off the second day, are you able to reuse them?

@BeachLookingGuy 7 месяцев назад

you can save and reuse them but personally i dont like doing that because my box of flakes become full of "crumbs". it almost looks like he is reusing scrapped flakes in this video because when he shows close up on the floor you dont see very many full flakes, they are mostly all little tiny crumbs. I reclaim flakes before i scrape and then the scraps get thrown away keeping my box full of fresh, full size flakes. the main issue with crumbs is that they end up in the primer and dont allow full size flakes to stick so you end up with a weird consistency of full size flakes and crumbs. most customers wouldn't know the difference but i personally dont like how it looks full of crumbs and i instantly noticed his bucket full of them.

@TimDCVA 7 месяцев назад

@BeachLookingGuy this blend of flakes varies in size from mostly 1/16” to a few 1/4” flakes. If you would have watched the full video, you would have seen a close up and description of that.

@lordgarth1 Год назад

Too bad you aren’t closer to MI. This looks great. What would something like this cost for 850sqft?

@TimDCVA Год назад

Thanks! Probably around $5.50-$6 per foot.

@chrisbauer6505 Год назад

I'm near Detroit, I used TruTech Coatings for my garage. Try then.

@pamelacurry7515 Год назад

Loved watching and learning your process. I trust your business from watching your videos. Do you provide service for Northern VA, Burke?

@TimDCVA Год назад

Hi. You’re probably a little too far away for us… but we do occasionally work up there depending on the job. If you want to check, feel free to fill out the contact form/questionnaire on our site and we can let you know for sure.

@TimDCVA Год назад

Thanks!

@hassanabdou5374 Год назад

@@TimDCVA 1:16

@camilocanizares206 Год назад

Can you do this in a patio ( the Same process)

@TimDCVA Год назад

Yes you can but a cementious overlay would be more appropriate.

@sandspritpark 4 месяца назад

how much a square foot?

@user-kf5xl3io8b Год назад

Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t moisture vapor barriers supposed to be installed at 16 mil?

@TimDCVA Год назад

Different manufacturers recommend different things. Most vapor barriers that hold down 20lbs/ft are supposed to go down @ 100ft/gallon. This particular product holds down 8lbs, and the manufacturer recommends 160ft/gallon.

@Tsargents2 10 месяцев назад

Hi Tim. Really enjoyed your videos and the process you use. I am building a new home near Grand Rapids Michigan (Grand Haven - zip code 49417). What is the best way to find a quality installer like you? You guys come out to Michigan 😉 Also is it good to finish the garage floor before it is used at all or does it have to cure for xx months before coating? Thanks

@TimDCVA 10 месяцев назад

Hi! I love that area. I spent a few days there a few years ago. Sorry we don’t go that far… unless it’s a really big garage. Ha. I would wait until construction is finished on your home. That will give it a few months to cure. Don’t cover it with anything either… that will allow it to breathe so (hopefully) the moisture will all evaporate out of it.

@Tsargents2 10 месяцев назад

@TimDCVA Thanks. I found a place called Decorative Concrete Redources. Is it a franchise or a coincidence?

@Tsargents2 10 месяцев назад

Resources not redources 😉

@TimDCVA 10 месяцев назад

Coincidence. 👍🏻

@truthspeakerandseeker7032 Год назад

hello i have a few questions, my garage floor which was just painted concrete is wrecked. the paint is chipping and crumbling from water damage and other unsightly stains, like rust, etc. the problem is i have my water heater in the garage. do most companies like your company remove the water heater properly so the entire garage floor can be done properly? this is a dilema I'm encountering. it would make things so much easier if its a one stop shop to clear the garage to make it ready for the new flooring. i appreciate any feedback or advice. Thank you

@danglyreprap4206 Год назад

You can hand grind and brush cut in around the water heater. Prep is not as critical in low traffic areas.

@dennisc7706 Год назад

Hi can the job be done in a single day instead of two days?

@TimDCVA Год назад

Yes… if we switch to a fast cure primer. Here is an explanation: Polyurea vs. Epoxy - This Changed Everything for Garage Floors ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-FcZMx59p-PE.html

@ameehasa5504 Год назад

How long it stay good without maintenance ?

@TimDCVA Год назад

A long time. I was just at a garage that we did 15 years ago and it still looked good.

@bladeclaiborne5921 Год назад

Is there a bubble popping step with this process?

@TimDCVA Год назад

No. We don’t usually have any bubbles.

@johnoneill7485 5 месяцев назад

In your previous video you claimed that your epoxy primer could prevent up to 20 lbs of water vapour...in this one you said 8lb...am I mistaken or is there some other discrepancy which you failed to clarify? thanks...also, enjoy the tunes!

@jcorcoran6686 2 месяца назад

great work but gar floor is best when coat covers entire slab under door

@rednuhtorfa 5 месяцев назад

i know you guys are based in VA but would you come up to CT for someone in the military?

@TimDCVA 5 месяцев назад

Maybe… just depends on the season & size of the job. Contact us through our website and we can let you know. 👍🏻👍🏻

@cirioparra5596 8 месяцев назад

What's the name or brand of chip mix??

@TimDCVA 8 месяцев назад

Shale from Torginol

@jimmyqs1558 Год назад

How slippery the floor gets when is wet ......... what could you add to prevent that?

@hitsome1hard Год назад

anti slip broadcasted just like the flake after the final top coat. its like clear sand texture

@TimDCVA Год назад

I don’t think its that slippery under normal use when its wet. If let kids run across it while it’s wet, then they might slip… but I don’t think it’s slippery if you are just walking in and out to your car. We can add grit to the top coat if it is a concern.

@jbw9999 Год назад

I've noticed some local installers use epoxy and some use polyurea base coats, and I've been trying to figure out which installer to go with. One said my floor was 3.25% moisture, so I should use epoxy. Another said that's not enough moisture to need epoxy or a vapor barrier, so I should use poly. I think obviously each company just has their own reasons to use each. And then a couple installers even advertise that they use 100% polyaspartic (for base and top coats), vs. all the other installers that advertise polyaspartic, but it's only polyaspartic for the top coat, and polyurea for a base. Are polyurea and polyaspartic really different?

@TimDCVA Год назад

3.25% isn't an accurate measurement of vapor. Thats probably from one of those meters that you just set on the surface. They aren't intended to be used as an official moisture test...they are supposed to be used as a preliminary test to find trouble spots so that you can drill a hole and drop probes in to get a real reading. www.wagnermeters.com/shop/c555-handheld-concrete-moisture-meter-kit/ The problem with moisture in concrete is that, unless you know that you have a vapor barrier under the concrete, the amount of moisture in the concrete can change over time. So just because its low now doesn't mean it will be low the next time you measure it. Polyurea and Polyaspartic coatings are pretty similar...but polyurea can only be used as a base because it turns yellow over time. It costs less than polyaspartic which is why people use it. Both are pretty flexible. Both are also known for not bonding that well to concrete. I've heard that manufacturers have made some advancements to combat that though. I don't think there is much benefit to using poly as a primer. I personally prefer to use a vapor barrier epoxy with a polyaspartic top coat. It eliminates the moisture issue, and you still have a flexible coating because of the poly top coat.

@jbw9999 Год назад

@@TimDCVA Thanks a lot! Yes, the reading was just from a meter placed on the ground. And I think of all the companies I got a quote from, which were all the most popular ones in the area, any that did a moisture reading used the same method. I assume none would drill down in someone's concrete unless/until they came back to do the actual job. One company mentions using a moisture barrier if needed, so I guess that's when they would decide. The house is less than 6 years old if that matters. But even if I don't have a good reading of the moisture, it sounds like you recommend an epoxy basecoat regardless of moisture. Most of the companies I got quotes from use a poly base instead of epoxy. Is that just so they can get in and out in 1 day? Or so they can advertise that their newer poly technology is better than epoxy? Speaking of job time, anything wrong with quick-cure epoxy that allows 1-day jobs? One youtuber uses that. My 3-car garage has real wood paneling on the walls, and for some odd reason, half of it has the paneling down to the floor, but on the other half, it only goes down to a few inches above the floor, with cinder block showing. Any idea why? When I asked about coating a few inches up the walls, most of the installers I got quotes from seemed slightly unsure about how, or whether to do this or not. One said I shouldn't coat the wood, as it wouldn't stick well, and wouldn't be warrantied. What do you think?

@BeachLookingGuy 7 месяцев назад

these people are over complicating it for you, I do these floors full time with Polyurea for 5 years now as a solo worker and it's not an issue. I never do anything "vapor" wise and i grind half as much as these big industrial machines do. I do up to 900sqft in one day start to finish with polyurea by myself and never have issues or concerns of moisture. the biggest downside with polyurea is you need to use a different process because it dries so fast, so if you're not experienced with it and dont have the right process it will not be good.

@TimDCVA 7 месяцев назад

We’ve taken up failed coatings for the past 20 years and it’s always because of moisture or lack of prep.

@BeachLookingGuy 7 месяцев назад

@@TimDCVA well of course. But i think another factor is how old the concrete is and the condition. I see a lot of different concrete, some grind much easier than other and create a lot of dust. I do think in some cases concrete is going to fall apart regardless of the prep for the coating.

@yosef2979 Год назад

I was working for a day does this terrible boss can you a class on how to do this and start a business during it? Also do you have businesses in SC?

@TimDCVA Год назад

I already have an online course for how to do it. You can check it out here: decorativeconcreteschool.teachable.com We are in Virginia… so nothing in SC.