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One of the worst things that happened to AEW was the integration of ROH. ESPECIALLY the titles. Suddenly, everyone had a title and when everyone has a title, your “big” titles start to mean less and less. Eric is right, it diluted their brand. Lose the AEW tag team titles? Just go for the ROH ones!
I'll go as far as to say it was the worst thing that happened to. Titles don't feel special anymore, and the roster is way too crowded. The treatment of Jay lethal alone is enough to make anyone stomach turn
@@thesupervisor3270I do disagree with that because they were at least at the start reluctant to actually show the NJPW title on tv. Moxley was US champ for like over a year and he only wore it in AEW like 2 times.
Could’ve built Roh back up on its own and super slowly built to a roh invasion of aew tony had the cash to sign stars and do some cool things but it seems he can’t
And he got a bit irritaed by it, lol. I am a mark since I am on here, yet I did not feel offended at all because it is fact. TV company guys are not marks. Some of them may be fans, but not marks.
The ONLY value ROH had was the tape library. That's why WWE's offer was so much lower than TK. Because they understood the ACTUAL value of the asset. TK's belief that he could run TWO wrestling promotions essentially MOMENTS after starting the FIRST promotion was the clearest sign that he was at worst delusional, and at best dangerously naive.
This is why I keep saying, AEW has an identity problem! What is the purpose of ROH? What is the purpose of dynamite? What is the purpose of rampage? What is the purpose of collision? Four different shows with no identity that separates them whatsoever. When you look at WWE, you can tell me the difference between raw, SmackDown, and NXT! Without a whole Lotta thought. And what championship means to their specific brand. AEW/ROH, can’t do that.
Purpose of ROH is to get those wrestlers something to do who Tony has signed out of ego and greed. Anyone saying extra revenue or development is high on Meltzer's koolaid, and naive. It's not developmental, because most of the Roh roster is in their 30s and 40s. It's not bringing revenue because they tape it before collision taping, and Honor clup has less than 10000 subs. The money they're making it from is nothing compared to what they're paying the talent to have those matches on Roh
I think he's smart for picking it up. There's a lot of ROH history. It creates a value proposition for broadcasters. It gives the video game an interesting addition. It's a way of creating content that help market the main brand. What they need is a content strategy for online that can boost the brands image. @@gohan_j
@@LtJackStone one is a 3 hour show, one is a 2 hour show. 1 has Randy Orton, one has CM Punk. They have 2 different sets of superstars, different titles, one is more entertainment based, the other is a small bit more wrestling. That’s just off the top of my head. Can AEW say the same thing with 3 shows (not including ROH)
Yes, I agree with Eric he needs to treat them like a separate company, like someone mentioned you get 2 shows for one ticket: Collision has ROH and Dynamite has Rampage. WWE does that with Main Event and Level Up but they aren't trying to make those into main shows. You need sell tickets to tapings or streaming shows of ROH not just for the PPVs cause then it's not bringing in anything just splitting all the cost on AEW.
Yup. What was the point of Tony hiring other people to run the day to day operations at ROH, if it wasn't going to be kept separate. I don't mind cross overs once in a while, but doing it frequently is not good
NXT was a well built product before anyone from the main roster came over. The people in NXT are what got it over..... not main roster people coming over.... come on Conrad you know better
@@thesupervisor3270 ^ this is the case, and it baffles me that people question the decision to move away from the "Black and Gold" identity. Up until it lost the ratings war to Dynamite, NXT was specifically booked as the "smark show". Snatched up every indy/Japanese darling that became available and won the hardcore crowd over that way. Then AEW arrived and beat NXT Black and Gold at its own game. All the indy darlings started signing there instead, so WWE ended up throwing in the towel and made NXT into what it was originally supposed to be- developmental with new, young talent instead of 40 year olds from the indies, New Japan, and TNA. Yeah, 2.0 and current NXT might not have the same match quality as Black and Gold, but the constant notion that it was a mistake or "Vince being out of touch" makes no sense. The Black and Gold audience left when AEW started. There was no winning with that approach.
"How's that game doing by the way? Have you heard? Yeah neither have I." Absolutely hilarious because it's ridiculously true. The only talk right now about AEW Fight Forever is about it's downfall and how disappointed the fans are in the overall product of that game. Eric is one of the most intelligent figures to have worked in the wrestling business and he knows when something is going downhill. From WCW's downfall to AEW's current problems that could possibly lead to their downfall.
Thank you Eric! Like I been saying and a lot of fans did not want to listen, which is that AEW & ROH are legally two separate companies, and Tony Khan need to treat them that way, with a separate roster, separate shows in separate venues (not ROH taping at Collison tapings) and a TV deal for ROH separate from AEW and Warner Bros. Discovery.
THANK YOU!!!! aew is an indie fed with a tv deal. no stories, just matches. a new title every week. a roster full of talent no one knows. i really want aew to succeed. each time i give it a try. i see bobby who cares vs jimmy 2 flips with ZERO introduction or background given.
Because its a 20 year old unknown product that only the hardcore fans are familiar with and they are the only ones that has continued will support it no matter what the mainstream audience doesn't know are its not a big enough brand too attract mainstream appeal it should ran is Developmental brand
Remember when the WWE integrated ECW? That was done way better and didn't work and was gone within 5 years, but later rebranded as NXT and used basically as a developmental promotion, but in recent years it has become a great show. ROH was dead when he bought it. He would have been smart not to buy it, because in all actuality he already has a developmental brand that sucks and its called AEW.
The reason that failed was ECW fans in general as they wanted the original ECW which was dead. So it was going to fail because it was never going to be the OG Ecw which is what was wanted of it. Once WWE noticed it wasnt going to work they moved on from it. Because that is what business minded people do. Vince at the end of the day is a business man that happened to be in the wrestling entertainment business. AEW lost its identity when Cody left. Because he was the heart of AEW he was the face of it when it started. And they have never recovered from that. Punk came in and was trying to be the man and tell them how to do things and the egos that had been there didnt like it and they eventually made him blow up and he handled it all wrong and everything that happened happened. As a long time fan of wrestling since 1993 I got a good grasp on how certain things work on the wrestling side of it all. AEW has no direction, no long term plan for creative direction. They have no identity because of ROH and incorporating New japan and triple A and impact like they have. Nothing against those brands they are putting their talents on a national tv market to expose their product and talent. They dont care about AEW really. They are using them to get exposure for their brand. And Tony Khan is the rich mark that wants to book it all because of his smart mark fan back ground. I could do the same thing if i had his money to play with. But while i know wrestling well enough to write down matches and storylines. I could not run the business end of it and manage everything that goes into TV and marketing ect. For tony its the opposite he is booking matches for the sake of matches booking for himself for that young mark in his head that grew up watching it. So he draws other marks like himself while all the casuals watch WWE because the wrestling elitist booking doesnt appeal to them. And that is why they cant compete with WWE. It doesnt matter how many 25 minutes matches they put on or what names they buy to put on the show its not going to draw anything but the wrestling marks that will watch anything wrestling. And specifically mostly the anti WWE marks that decided they want to hate Vince mcmahon or WWE for whatever reason. You could potentially justify Ring of Honor being there, but only if it is its own thing and mostly kept away from the AEW shows aside from occasionally doing a super show event. But overall Bischoff is right because ROH is dead roadkill. Only marks care about it at all or know any of its history. So its not going to draw. Its a waste of resources. And AEW itself has damaged its own brand so badly that not even Adam Copeland can draw for them. People tuned in and saw them job Bryan Danielson to Hangman page a while back and that let you know that they have no idea what they are doing. You bring in a star like him soon after he main evented Wrestlemania with Edge and Reigns and the first thing you do is establish that he cant beat a glorified midcarder like Hangman Page. I realize they were trying to build him as their champion but that was Bryan Danielson and they killed him out the gate with that booking and sucked all momentum out of him. I lost all faith in AEW at that moment. Everything that happened after that just proved my lack of faith in them right. Everyone that they have on that roster that is a legit draw with the exception of MJF was built in other companies. And the reason MJF is over is he got himself over. AEW doesnt know how to get people over. It knows how to bury them with bad creative that is not intentional burial.
@@zeromagnum2811I look at it like this... it's like Rocky..if the only thing in the story was boxing. You wouldn't care about Rocky. The story, the background, makes you care...same with the villains, you know why you don't like them because of the story. Pro wrestling at its best is like Rocky!
I’ve just never fully grasped what Tony’s vision has been with the relaunch of the ROH as a running brand outside of it just being a passion project. I could’ve possibly seen the allure if the acquisition from Sinclair had come with a multi year TV commitment that the show would have a place on the Sinclair channels for a number of years that would allow the thing to operate and then possibly be marketed for a true media deal later. But relaunching it and adding the cost to produce the content and maintain a roster for the brand that airs on a streaming platform that also adds expense to maintain and has a low subscriber count that isn’t driving anything near the revenue to substantially lessen the added costs of keeping it operating. But even more it doesn’t really make sense to be appealing because it doesn’t bring any add on consumers to grow the primary brand since it’s a much smaller product that your existing fan base is probably already a consumer of anyways. And it’s hard to see why you’d be investing the assets and time to produce PPVs for that brand that provides an immensely smaller potential return on those assets than if those assets were focused on the primary brand. Im not sure the cost comparison between putting on an AEW PPV versus a ROH PPV but if they’re anywhere close then it really doesn’t make much sense. The upside tor a ROH PPV isn’t even close to their normal performance for AEW PPVs. When a ROH show does buys in the 20K range it’s been record breaking for the brand, while being sold at a lower price point than an AEW PPV, and as we see with this one upcoming sells nowhere near the tickets either. If the cost to produce the show is comparable to the cost for an AEW show I just don’t see the appeal at all. If the investment is close why would I do that for a show that may do 25K buys and 3K in tickets when that money going into an AEW show is going to bring over probably at least 5K in tickets and 100K in buys and bring multiples in revenues. Just don’t understand it I guess in a financial metric view I guess
Tony is not a good business man supposedly the CW wanted ROH on their network but he wanted to wait for Warner and now they may ditch AEW for RAW. Idk why he thinks if he kisses up to them it would entice them to offer him a big deal only thing that matters is ratings to them which they are failing at. but his big plan was seeing what WWE is getting and thinking he could get close to them tv deal money wise which is pretty laughable. He may not even get the same offer he got last time since they have been going down ratings wise year over year.
WWE real TV deal worth is about 300m As for roh Tk said he'll use roh as development but then he goes and puts most of the wrestlers from the RU-vid show on there He could do something with roh if he put a proper worthy roster in roh then at least it could make enough money to keep rolling along there's something good things on roh but theres to little of it to get any attention or get more fans and roh is cheap to run compared to other companies roh at the moment ain't even competing with nxt roh is a development brand that got so much talent it became a known brand in its own right if tk can't workout how to restore roh's name then he can get someone who can.
Easy E spot on. Another thing they could do is an AEW brand split, and ROH goes to Collison. But he would have to do two separate rosters and cut the people he would not need. Then later, if they need a developmental, then worry about it. Everything to TK is a vanity project.
Tony could have bought ROH, used its past library for streaming and taken one of its titles and used it in place of the all Atlantic/international title for nostalgia purposes and been all the better for it. It has its place in history as many great stars of the past and present made their name in ROH but it serves ZERO purpose now and actually hurts the ROH legacy. It’s kind of funny/sad but AEW grew from the late 10’s indie boom, and in many ways is responsible for the sad shape of the indies today. So many wrestlers that should be out traveling and gaining experience working with each other on the indies are now tied up doing all of jack shit on AEW or AEW-ROH.
I agree that it's about, product differentiation, ROH needs to completely different in its presentation. Eric is right, ROH needs to be it's own separate thing. Cross-over needs to be a special thing.
yep it didnt work and its no longer a thing. first they would not drop that pg rating. imagion if the ecw brand was there r rated show. then they just started dumping all the low/mid card onto the brand.
Bischoff's correct I dont mind ROH but Tony didnt keep it separate from AEW ROH should've been a platform for their other talent but its just another extension for their main roster stars And Conrad is totally wrong with NXT. NXT built their stars and they kept growing and growing
I didn't know til I experienced it on saturday night but before collision they taped matches 30 mins prior. After collision tapings they did almost two hours of taping for it and many others left the building and kept having people come from others sections to fill in empty seats and I tapped out after 1hr 20mins.
Bischoff is right. Separate both brands. Crossover only at specific PPVs, ROH Titles should be presented on Honor Club. Build the ROH Brand with young Talents and ROH-Veterans.
I’ve always said that they should have put ROH on the time that collision on, give them the 2 hour time slot on national tv to give them the buzz, instead of making it the CMFTR show.
Harsh judgementts but spot on by Mr.Bischoff. It is a fact that AEW was at its best when they had the one show, Dynamite, and it was a laser focused effort to build the brand, AND IT WORKED. Then Tony managed to get another TV spot and they created Rampage, that marked the beginning of the decline, because, if your memory serves you well, you will remember the first Rampage shows were loaded with all the main eventers and Dynamite was almost an afterthought.
Tony is a mark with deep pockets of his dad, and he wants to sign as many people he can to self validation. And when they complain about not being on TV, he gives them shows like Roh and more fake titles. But when those shows can't draw more than 1000 people, he puts Danielson and FTR to sell 500 more tickets, but in the end damaging their drawing aura. Why Bucks or Moxley are not on it? Because they're smart unlike Bryan.
@@Keepitpush99True but he also knows he'll be welcomed back in WWE when he's done with AEW because of shield history. WWE will make lot of month with those 3
I totally understand the point that Eric was making here. At this point, Ring of Honor is essentially another AEW show. It is adding several more belts to AEW tv, which makes the AEW belts less meaningful, due to the number of people carrying belts on AEW tv. Because storylines are carrying over back and forth from both shows, it is stretching everything out even more than it would have been otherwise. That doesn't even take into account the fact that several AEW talents have been injured on ROH shows that nobody watched. For ROH to have any chance, it must be kept separate.
Oh yah banning chsIrshots and piledrivers was glorious. Right up there with bill watts booking. But of course corney had mediocre results like he always does before he has a tantrum hissy fit - like he always does - alienates everyone and gets fired…. Like always. I’m amazed he still has a such an army of mindless marks… he is a great con-man if nothing else. Always has.. cuz he reeell furney guy hyuk!!
@@onewarriornation602 the cultists don't care about the truth - nor are they capable of comprehending it. Corney waves a shiny object in front of them and they giggle. Credit to Corney, his schtick which is the timeless circus carney fast-talker still works on the masses. He could sell his followers sand.
It's not working because there's no actual ROH company. It's just another AEW show under the ROH letters. Just like there was no actual ECW revival in 2006.
ROH is Dead it Died way before Tony Khan bought it. Ring of Honor just needs to be put down like Old Yeller. I agree with Bischoff its time to put it down. ROH is Finished it would have been better if WWE bought it for the Library.
This is exactly what has recently stopped me watching AEW. I don't care about ROH and without a TV deal their titles are just as pointless as the FTW belt. What amazes me with Tony Khan is that he has decades on what works and what doesn't work in wrestling at his finger tips. Yet the past year or so he has walked into the brick wall of 2001 when WWE tried to hold WCW matches on their product. It fell flat because the fan base came to see WWE and not WCW. Vince obviously killed the project quick, yet TK extends his well over due.
TK buying ROH was the dumbest move in history. He has the brand, but INTENTIONALLY handicaps it so it can't compete with his main product, AEW. Plus, he completely ruined Gresham, who was a major face of ROH. TK is a bozo.
Tony should of someone in charge of roh and made it a developmental brand. They could of featured it on rampage . And have it it's own writers and dedicated roster
Roh has been positioned at the wrongest place possible. Instead of being either a developmental brand or a 2nd and equivalent brand to dynamite, having their titles exclusively on collision let's say, it has been presented as a lesser main brand. It's like tony has been postponing deciding what he wants it to be, and I think at this point the decision won't matter anymore.
I full agree with Eric's assessment, especially when it comes to separating rosters. ROH has to be its own thing so that AEW can be its own thing. I get that TK maybe wants to push his stars to the PPV so that people can buy more tickets, but that doesn't work in the long run, and sure as hell it hasn't done so to this day. With that said, everything is good in moderation. Conrad is correct in stating that NXT grew thanks in large to incorporation of Smackdown and Raw stars with time. But that should only happen once ROH is allowed to be its own thing. Right now, no casual wrestling fan understands what ROH is, and why should they? Their titles get defended on other shows, so why should I tune in to that show in particular? MJF and Cole won the tag championships, and still people didn't really care. Why? Because ROH is being built like AEW-lite, nothing more and nothing less. Sometimes I wish people would just talk some sense into Tony Khan about this, because most of this is just trivial, trivial to me at least.
Its working right now coz wwe wants to transition nxt from a developmental brand in Florida to a third brand like raw and smackdown. Wwe feels now is the time to reincorporate nxt into the wwe brand n not keep it separate which it has been for the past 10 years. Conrad is trying to compare apples to oranges and it makes no sense.
@@AznIntegra521 I'd be interested to see if NXT can become a standalone brand like Raw and Smackdown. I have my doubts I won't lie, but I'm definitely intrigued.
NXT built itself with ingrown talent, not by having John Cena and the Undertaker from day one ….RoH needs to built itself up with its own roster, might need to do smaller shows like NXT at full sail before trying to sell out arenas
No one cares about ROH now....Tony hides the show behind a ROH paywall if they were on a AEW streaming service or a streaming service AEW was on it might attract some new fans...but its on Honor club or whatever it is which yes hardcore ROH fans will watch but only ROH fans youre not attracting new eyeballs to ROH which is a shame because the name and the library could be a good asset
As weird/lame as this sounds, AEW i think really needs a business plan. Tony Has a LOT of money, and throws money at both his problems and his goals. For AEW to be a viable alternative, it needs to run strategically. Good corporate leadership has its advantages
I think the best description I have heard of ROH is that it's that one local sandwich shop that makes the best sandwiches in town. Its dingy and cheap, but it makes great food. But only in that location. You can't make it a franchise. Thats ROH. Its for hardcore fans and rising stars.
Eric Bischoff is right Aew needs to focus on Wednesdays and Saturdays. Eliminate rampage and eliminate ROH and focus on those two and they have enough roster to fill those slots in is going to go out of business because of Tony Kahn doesn’t know what the heck he’s doing
If I was Tony Khan, I would turn ROH into an annual bracket tournament for low/high profile indy wrestlers to get an AEW contract. ROH has good name value in wrestling community.
Actually I would turn roh into a nxt. Make roh ur developmental brand, give it its own identity. Put ur younger under utilized talent there so they can get tv time and improve on their in ring and promo skills
Tony completely F'ed up ROH from the start. He brought in random ROH matches to Dynamite and people carrying ROH titles and who knows what wrestlers were where - Dynamite, Collision, Rampage, ROH. All way too confusing especially when he books so many matches that are just random as well with no story backing them. Rampage should've been 100% ROH roster only and ROH should've become the "NXT type" development production once Collision was created. I'd prefer distinct rosters for Collision and Dynamite too so I know where not to see OC at or where I can guarantee to see certain wrestlers. If this all sounds very WWE, who cares? They have a model like that for a reason - it works and makes $. Should be AEW Dynamite with Roster 1, AEW Collision with Roster 2, and ROH Rampage with Roster 3. The last thing I would have done is that the women's divison is so weak I would have put ALL the AEW women on Dynamite along with the gimmic kinda guys like OC, Jungle Joke, Young Bucks, or Jon Moxely - that would give Dynamite the unique feel for the indy types that you could only get there. Collision would be your best WWE type impression with guys that actually look like wrestlers and want that style. You then have 3 distinct rosters with 3 distinct feels to them. You could have the 1 hour of ROH Rampage be the opening for Wednesday Dynamite so it is essentially on 2 day tape delay but takes place in front of a live audience. This stuff seems so simple but no... AEW world champ can float feuds between Dynamite and Collision. The rosters: AEW Dynamite (with Trios Champs, Women's Champ, and International Champ): Jon Moxley, Bryan Danielson, Adam Cole, The Acclaimed, Chris Jericho, Daniel Garcia, Darby Allin, Hook, Jungle Jack, Jeff Jarret, Matt Hardy, Young Bucks, OC, Sammy Guevarra, Sting, Wardlow, women's roster etc... AEW Collision (with TNT Champ, Tag Team Champs): Samoa Joe, Christian Cage, Adam Copeland (Edge), Adam Page, Andrade El Idolo, The Gunns, Big Bill, House of Black, Jay White, Juice Robinson, Kenny Omega, Kill Switch, Konosuke Takeshita, Malakai Black, Miro, Pac, Powerhouse Hobbs, Ricky Starks, Swerve Strickland and then finally the ROH Rampage Roster with (ROH World Champ, ROH Women's Champ, ROH tag champs) - Brian Cage, Ethan Page, Eddie Kingston, Jay Lethal, Keith Lee, Mark Briscoe, Wheeler, Yuta, all the developmental men and women in the pipeline. This isn't a complete list but you get where I'm going. Each show would feel unique and you would know where to go to see certain wrestlers and storylines week in and week out. The PPVs are a bit trickier to integrate but I'd say you still keep AEW as one PPV and ROH as another just like WWE does with main roster and NXT.
They honestly need to make ROH it's own separate brand... it just seems like it's "AEW... oh yeah and ROH"... Both brands need to be made special individually.
Is there a reason Bischoff doesn't do this without this guy? People complain Eric doesn't know the business, but at least he worked in and around it. The only thing tying Conrad to wrestling is marriage to one of Flair's daughters.
I hate to agree, because I used to love RoH, but I do. They were the super indy when they were at their peak, but that niche has been filled. RoH was amazing in it's time, but that time is long past.
It didn't happen in 8 months. It was years of building the brand and when Triple H became involved it raised its value. Then it finally came to light when Adam Cole came in to challenge Daniel Bryan. And Triple H and HBK coming out to support their NXT guys made it an even bigger deal.
While Eric isn't perfect he is right other than Tony watching ROH for years and not wanting it to go away I can't even see ROH being bought as a developmental brand because much of the wrestlers that AEW has and hires don't think they need to improve what they have already. But even if Tony bought it as a counter to NXT it's still wasn't a great move because AEW has a hard enough time marking their main show work why bring another show in at that point. Unfortunately Tony I think starts out with good ideas but either do to not having the full picture or just having an idea and not a plan we see it go off the rails relatively fast.
You can't get any interest in ROH. What made ROH so good was it wasn't on television. You could only see it by attending shows, buying DVD's, and a few matches on YT. Once it gets to tv it has to change. Tony basically killed that promotion when he formed AEW. Just having the nostalgia and invoking all the good stuff that came out of it isn't going to be enough to bring not just an old school ROH fan, but a 39 year fan of wrestling overall back to the product when it sucks. I got 73 events on DVD if I want to watch ROH when it was good.
Tony has 0 idea how to separate shows by identity. It's all wrestling for the sake of it. ROH just throws in the AEW roster and it muddies the waters. But sure, add another belt, Tony.
TK should've pitted ROH against AEW as a story narrative ESPECIALLY during the Punk vs Bucks fiasco. That was the catalyst event to book ROH off of AEW with a rival invasion theme. Instead he booked AEW against WWE. The intergration is weird. ROH should be the WCW/ECW/Smackdownn to AEW's RAW. ROH & AEW champs should HATE each other. Collision should be a joint show pitting the promotions against each other. Punk Samoa Joe Kingston BCC FTR Ricky Starks could've carried and elevated ROH
The reason it doesn't make sense is because Tony doesn't have to make money so he isn't running the company like a business. He's free to pursue his personal "artistic" (for lack of a better term) desires.
Conrad is right and its wat i been saying Roh should of been aew version of nxt. The small stages they use 2 perform in gave it they own stage now they just use collision set
I've said for 4 years that Aew needs a PC or now ROH could be that. And the hardcore marks always said that was stupid. Which of course they would because for being obsessed about something, they sure don't understand it.
@@RunandLift2 they got alot of talent but don't know wat they doin.Rampage is trash and worthless. Roh shoukd be aew version of nxt and why is athena on roh keeps me smh when they main roster of females are mediocre. Also this continental classic is a waste. No story lines just matches and it's doin nuthing
@@southsidetone All facts. I see zero lies there. TK and Aew hardcores want it both ways. They want to be competitive with WWE but also want the new company excuse. Tony Khan doesn't get nearly enough criticism, imo about how horribly ROH has been mismanaged. And its only going to get worse with Aew moving away from storyline, which is funny to hear, and to go more wrestling based, which is also funny to hear. Since that is basically ROh already
@@RunandLift2 last week was my last time watching dynamite. I'm starting 2 waste my time. When punk had a issue with the elite they was supposed 2 turn it into a story line and make money off it that was a blown opportunity. Let's not start on the women's division. No athena, thunder rosa, u let jade get away . Keep pushing riho who doesn't talk or anything and have her beat ruby soho 4 wat smh
@@southsidetone Exactly it's a disorganized company. Or a "sloppy shop" as old Taz would say. Dynamite has been pretty unwatchable for some time now. Obviously Tony won't put real heat on the screen because he's afraid of what could happen. Feuds make zero sense
@@frankstudentrofl!! Yes we need to develop talent … to bring them over to a place with ratings on par with nxt!!! They don’t need a developmental at all right now. What they need is to build a promotion strong enough to need a developmental stream! 😂😂😂.
