Eric X. Li: A tale of two political systems 

@@dareartes4232 must be American

@@dareartes4232 "everything I don't believe or don't understand is the devil" energy

You should move to America, you sound so much like the average American: "Everything I don't agree with is a pRoPAgAnDa hur dur"

@@dareartes4232 then you are those brainwashed victim of USA's propaganda

you sound like a child incapable of critical thinking, Mr. patience1630

The reason is that the citizens of liberal democracies have a higher expectation of their politicians. Expectations that correspond to ideals such as integrity, justice, backbone, etc. Integrity such as adherence to treaties, which cannot necessarily be expected from a one-party state like the People's Republic.

@@iche9373 Higher expectation? Come on it's not like Trump won't be a universal failure

@@zeflute4586 It's easier to follow the pragmatic way as PR China does. Liberal democracies on the other side bases on ideals/virtues. Ideals are where the stars are, you can't reach them. And if you fail, you fall deep.

@@iche9373 what stars though? human rights? one human one vote? freedom of speech?

@@zeflute4586 An ideal is something that cannot be achieved, like creating a perfectly spherical shape, because reality always deviates from the ideal. It is like trying to reach for the stars from the sky.

Absolutely. The guy’s a real patriot, truely wants Americans be better.

Me too

That guy is smart

+1

Ur videos are awesome as well. it is okay to love CN ❤

Just came back from your videos to here wow

是火锅佬!

活捉火锅大王！

Hi Nathan

Inherent racism in their analysis

„Meritocracy“ is just another word for neoliberalism to make the rich people richer.

And PR China has upgraded now its system to a 100% dictatorship where Xi rules forever.

@@iche9373 Not that exactly. Examination system in ancient China gives middle class students the chance to jump to the upper class. Indeed it still almost impossible for a student from the lower class to jump directly to the upper class, but at that time there were no better option(if you know any other better option, please reply me)

@@yiyangshao2003 Not true, even before the Shang era in Asia there were already ancient cities and town which were led in an egalitarian way, and they existed for about several thousand years. They had no kings, queens or nobles. It was egalitarian.

It’s a good thing the US is a Democratic republic then

OMMBoy no its a oligarchic authoritarian police state cloaked in a facade of a constitutional republic

@@ScipioXII let the excuses flow. It's not the formal structure that matters but the outcome. And the outcome is not democratic Republic at all. But cling to the form, not the function. That's always an easy fall back.

K M sure it is, and I’m assuming you think the jews run the world as well? If you want I’ll personally pay for a government class you can take. You honestly need it if you want to understand how governments work 😂

@@ScipioXII no thanks, I paid attention in school, but didn't stop my education there. Cf Martin Gilens, Testing Theories of American politics. Bottom 90% income earners - so 95% of eligible voters - have _zero_ impact on legislation. I know what representative democracy is, and claims to be. So you can assume everyone else is ignorant, or realize your 15 years of education amounts to nothing more than indoctrination - same as what you probably think of the Chinese.

US is not a democracy

It was never democratic in the true sense of the word "rule by the people". We've always been given an illusion of democracy in America, where owners of big capital choose candidates that will bow to their interests, then pretend letting us choose from a list of them they give us is democratic Read Madison's notes on the constitutional Congress. Read how they unanimously voted down the bill of rights at first, read how half of their debates was figuring out three best ways to insulate the wealthy elites from democracy.

Lobbyist. In the west, its legal. In developing nations, its called corruption. Big double standard there.

All these problems you just described is called democracy

@@Himmaniac666 US is a republic, in which representative "democracy". Representative democracy is one type of democracy. So yeah, USA is indeed a democracy country

China didn't move an inch from the TI rankings, still behind USA on GDP. Point 3 is still true.

Interesting to watch this video in 2020, and find Eric Li has lost all his 3 bets: 1) now it's pretty clear that China can't surpass US in GDP by 2023; 2) Chinese corruption is still rampant, and by now the world is well aware that Xi Jinping's anti-corruption campaign has been highly motivated by his intent of eliminating his political adversaries; 3) China's political reform has not only hard stopped but even backpaddled towards Stalinism/Maoism.

1) The GDP difference between China and US is still decreasing, based on current trend surpass is only time dependent. 2) Corruption is problem to all developing country, but Chinese people feel much better than 7 years ago. Xi maybe controversial, but his U.S. counterpart shows how ridiculous a world leader could be. 3) For people believe that upper decision decided by the economic backgroundand, it is easy to understand China's current political system fit China's current condition. And reform is in progress but just not in the way the west media wants.

@@wangxs LOL, As an American who lived in China for more than ten years and obtained my PHD in Fudan university. I completely disagree with you. i) the GDP surpass bet is based on America's Goldman Sachs' prediction in 2006, almost all believed that around 2012 just years after financial crisis. ii) Anti-corruption campaign has been appraised by not only the Chinese but many American think tanks (I worked for one of them for coordinating a both sides to a govt project, I knew it) and it is not a campaign to eliminate his adversaries since there are more than one and a half million corrupted people sentenced to jail, are you serious that the most powerful man after Mao need to eliminate so many people to maintain his power? It is easier for him to buy all his adversaries (given all his control of state-owned enterprises etc. etc.) without any conflicts with them instead of sentencing them all into prison. iii) If you define political reform as instant transformation into pure democracy as what Russia did in 1990s (and Russia collapsed and suffered until another strong man Putin came to power), then of course China hasn't have a political reform after 1949. But if you define political reform as changes in all respects like how to run the country, how to have more accountability, how do you improve your people's well-being and so on so forth, then by definition, there are substantial reforms being implemented, China's political reform has been incrementally occurred and accumulated year by year. I lived here and I know how enormous has the government and all other official related institutions changed their style to serve people not to suppress people, even in 4th tier city like Lanzhou, Last week I visited there, almost all govt related services are handled online (all procedures are standardised and will inform you by phone or Wechat ), if you wish, you do not need to contact or pay bribes to anyone, the digital tech can serve better).

@@watson7042 Judging by your English writing, if you were American with a Fudan PhD, I can pretend Martian.

None of his predictions came true. China is still at 65th (so some improvement, but not as much as he predicted). China does not have the biggest economy or highest per capita income. And from what I understand, Xi has started to reverse some economic reform (exerting more control over private industry like he did with tech industries). But he's right that one party control is holding firmer than ever due to Xi appointing loyalist underlings. I was very amused by his mention of term limits being a political reform. Xi removed those limits in 2018! What this guy also does not address is how China's system deals with corruption at the top. Sure, Xi is a competent leader and was appointed based on merit. But what is his accountability if/when he starts making bad decisions? I did like Eric's description of the Organization Department, I hadn't really been familiar with that before. I especially like the idea of them doing public surveys in the process of reviewing government officials' performance. That is almost as good as voting and maybe even better because it doesn't have the same campaign financing problems that democracy has. But does that performance review go all the way to the top? Is it anonymous? Can people criticize their superiors without fear of reprisal? In the US of course we have the (usually) rare option of impeachment. The legislature can censure or remove the executive if they abuse their power.

True. Nobody is very rational in online chat rooms and comment sections.

Or in political office.

As human beings, we are wired in a mixture of rational and irrational, so the voting system doesn’t necessarily lead to democracy.......in the recently years, we all have witnessed so many irrational voting events, such USA Trump as a president, Brexit, Boris Johnson as UK PM.......etc......people voted out of emotions, anger, despair, rebellion, speculation..... and so on, people are becoming less and less rational nowadays.......

and off line also...

The essence of representative democracy is not merely letting the people choose. It's fundamental meaning is to check and balance the power of the regime. All powers must be limited whether elected or not. Unfortunately, there has been no such thing in China.

You don't know anything about China, do you?

Democracy is not imposed, its selected by the nation from the nation.

is a hoax, america is not even a democracy

86Corvus If you really believe democracy is not forced, why try so hard selling it to China? If it is really a good thing for everyone, they will eventually accept it on their own.

exactly the point - and as you know, the chinese communist is the one who is disallowing any other alternative form of government ( correction - yes you can try and ask - nicely - and crossing your fingers that they will not lock you up ) - versus, in USA, we do allow communist party to run for election - but I guess the communist by its own very nature of dictatorship - see China for a very good text book example of that - is somehow not very good in convincing the people - in an open, audited, uncensored society of USA - to vote for them. They are out of their typical elements of lies, deceits, twisted facts, faked news, bribery and threats by violence.

but how about finacial & political reform in china

@@255p They certainly need some financial tweaks, though their continued success and rising fortunes allow for incremental moves. Political reform? Why would they ever bother? Western democracy has no real history there and the appetite just isn't strong enough.

What is TI ?

@@benhardsim8629 Transparency International

@@chen-qq7eg Really? That's quite a jump.

If you want this kind of thinking go.to.China and be a citizen for you to realize that you are lucky that you are not chinese..

@@romulopahuyo5542 I have been to China many times before, and I can say I would be very happy to live there permanently. And many Chinese who can live in the West choose to live in China. I personally know some of them. And not sure if you know this, there are many Westerners who want to *MIGRATE* to China!! yes, you heard right, not just live there, but actually migrate there!

@@ChinaSongsCollection Well thank you for this information.. People have different views and should be respected... It is not communism or democracy or capitalism that is evil it depends on the people how to use it to their own advantage for the common good.

@@romulopahuyo5542 yes， they killed many people to keep their regime

Good luck bro. You people deserve more respect and good life

+Jiye Ren Sorry to be rude, but, you're a new, and Eric heavily implies that the Chinese system is better, and uses humor to achieve this effect. he's right, but, that's not the reason why democracy is fail.

漢武神 I wouldn't say samplily listing the accomplishments of the Communist Party of China is prooving the Chinese System is better, afterall, western democratic systems leading by the USA had accomplished a lot, like sending men on the moon or inventing internet, just to name a few...... The main concept of this talk is still about telling people to abandon the meta-narrative so that people shall look at China in a more objective way instead of picturing it as an evil regime all the time without thinking. But thanks very much for the reply though, didn't expect any reply this soon since this is an old vedio. ^_^

Jiye Ren Americans and its Allies aren't willing to abandon their democracy even thought it means being impoverished by that very system and being unhappy with civics and politics in general. you should be _far_ more worried America's domestic policy and its culture of Global idiocy, than actually trying to disprove their arguments or respond to them with a rational discussion. America wants to enslave the world and create a population of idiots. shouldn't this worry you? it should for any rational human being. let us bring knowledge instead of death to the world.

漢武神 Still to early to say anything yet, global politics are not just about China and USA, though I'm positive about the future since there are so many issues that really requires super powers like China and USA to work together and hence reduce the tension between these two nations, such as global warming; However, though lack of data, judging from the radical comments about China, I suppose you do have a point.

Jiye Ren the radical comments regarding China is because of Mentally-retarded individuals. you have to have an average or below average IQ to believe some of the phenomena that these individuals believe in. Global warming also doesn't exist, it's a Myth. but there is change in our climate systems that includes both deliberate and non-deliberate actions from humans, specifically those from America. the American people in North America, not its Governments, are responsible for All pollution in the world, because they are consumers. that includes Chinese who have emigrated to America, regardless of citizenship. Global politics only involves one state - New York. every Major event is related to the past and actions of the United States both the public and private, because it is the Global center of Money and power. China needs not cooperate with the United States, but rather respond appropriately at the right time. it would require China to Attack the United States on a geopolitical level when the opportunity arises, if China wants to survive.

为啥国内看不到这么好的宣传啊....

@@wobhineven47 中国的体制在历史课本上都有，地方科举察举，吏部选官，宰相起于州县。

@@wobhineven47 因為你們是中共， 沒自由

@@kainson8867 : ) 但我们都相信，将来我们会有更好的自由。

@@wobhineven47 多读读历史，历史是最好的宣传。

@@burgerkingfootlettuce1880 somebody is mad...I smell insecurity

We will exterminate all you commies

@@coronavirusisacommunistchi845 wow you must be the smartest kid in school

Just develop your African Union, and let King T'Challah of Wakanda become President. Sell some Vibranium, invest it in infrastructure, Health Care, etc. Life can be so easy, no need to go the Chinese Way. Wakanda Forever.

Yes, and we, as Africans, must choose our own path. We have a completely different history ... so for Africa to become big we have to embrace our cultural heritage and make a model that works for us ...

He just tries to prove that a monopoly can avoid Dead Weight Social Loss, but he couldn't, because losing freedom, justice and corruption are social costs and are Dead Weight Loss. The costs are in our prices and reducing our income. The high price of goods and low income are living evidences.

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***** Justice and corruption are not always the cost of an authoritarian government (or "monopoly" in your language). Living evidence: Hong Kong and Singapore are two of the least corrupted countries/cities in the world. They both have great legal system. Both rank better than the U.S. in the Corruption Perceptions Index. And neither are very democratic in western perceptions. Meanwhile, India and Philippine have had democracy for 50 years and they are still very corrupted. I started to question the value of democracy when I lived in Singapore. Singapore is a better nation to live than many democratic countries. Most importantly, the simple(naive) model of "monopoly" from Economics 100 is not the omnipotent explanation for the complexity our society. Thinking only in the box of "Economics 100" or "Political Science 100" is exactly what Li was arguing against. He only wants to point out that we should not only stick with one system or one model, and eliminate all the other options. He was not trying to promote one-party or authoritarian system. He only tried to point out that other than democracy, there MIGHT be another system which better maximize people's interests. And China's achievements in the past 30 years could provide some support for this claim. People nowadays have such a faith in democracy that we brainwashed ourselves into doubt-less believers. We hunt down and eliminate any dissidents who dare to raise doubts about democracy( or Economics100 ^ ^). This is kind of like Middle Ages again, only the church is now replaced by democracy. Li was not asking us to abolish democracy, he only ask us to avoid meta-narratives. We should not treat democracy as a religion. No one knows if two hundred years later, people would not look at democracy like we look at church today. P.S. It is kind of funny that you use the model of monopoly and dead weight loss. These terms might sound scary, but they are only theoretical and really proves nothing.

wxw2105 Justice and corruption are not always the cost of an authoritarian government (or "monopoly" in your language). Living evidence: Hong Kong and Singapore are two of the least corrupted countries/cities in the world. ============================== Did you hear that in Hong Kong, a rich Chinese immigrant who wanted to pay 10K HK dollar to a driving coach to get his daughter passed for her driving test in Hong Kong? Did you see that the Hong Kong media has no difference with the mainland Chinese media now? Did you hear that Mr. Liang stated that he has no duty to report his 40 million HKD worth of income? Can you do the same in the USA and not be jailed? Singapore doesn't have a real free press, how do we know whether real facts of injustice and corruption are realistically audited? They both have great legal system. Both rank better than the U.S. in the Corruption Perceptions Index. ============================= Yes, they do, but without free press, how can we measure the truth? how can we compare? And neither are very democratic in western perceptions. Meanwhile, India and Philippine have had democracy for 50 years and they are still very corrupted. ============================== From my interviews with Indian and Philippine friends, they do believe their corruption level are better than Hong Kong. I don't know how they draw that conclusion but that's how they feel. I started to question the value of democracy when I lived in Singapore. Singapore is a better nation to live than many democratic countries. ============================= If Chinese citizens can have the welfare that Singapore people, the one party rule can last longer. Chinese people are very kind and tolerable. Most importantly, the simple(naive) model of "monopoly" from Economics 100 is not the omnipotent explanation for the complexity our society. Thinking only in the box of "Economics 100" or "Political Science 100" is exactly what Li was arguing against. He only wants to point out that we should not only stick with one system or one model, and eliminate all the other options. ============================== There are only two options, One is one party rule, the other is more than one party rule. More than one party rule is a stable situation and least costly proved by world history. One party rule cause inefficiency and sacrifice freedom, also proved by world history. He was not trying to promote one-party or authoritarian system. He only tried to point out that other than democracy, there MIGHT be another system which better maximize people's interests. ============================== He presumed that all Chinese people's interests are money, justice and freedom are not included in his assumption, because he thought justice and freedom don't worth any money. And China's achievements in the past 30 years could provide some support for this claim. ============================== The achievements also can prove that justice and freedom worth something since the growth come from freedom to do business and peasants are no longer be confined on land. People nowadays have such a faith in democracy that we brainwashed ourselves into doubt-less believers. ============================= If you are not holding on to your bias, it's scientifically and historically proved worldwide and easy to understand like 1+1=2. We hunt down and eliminate any dissidents who dare to raise doubts about democracy( or Economics100 ^ ^). ========================== Dissidents are valued in democracy, disagree with you doesn't necessarily wish you disappear. Any wild religion is allowed and valued when practice divergent thinking. This is kind of like Middle Ages again, only the church is now replaced by democracy. ======================== It's totally the opposite, Middle Ages churches were monopolies, that's why they doomed to fail, democracy encourages diversity and fair competition. Li was not asking us to abolish democracy, he only ask us to avoid meta-narratives. ========================= His main idea of diversity is not wrong, but his supporting of monopoly is backward and showed his weakness of Humanity studies. We should not treat democracy as a religion. ============================== One party rule is a monotheism, democracy is just a solution to counteract the power of a tyranny. If the one party rule is not a tyranny and doing everything right, its citizens won't cry for democracy. No one knows if two hundred years later, people would not look at democracy like we look at church today. ============================= From of our experience of market economy, we know that no one wants to go back to a planned economy, because freedom does have values to human beings. P.S. It is kind of funny that you use the model of monopoly and dead weight loss. These terms might sound scary, but they are only theoretical and really proves nothing.  ============================ These terms are the terms that teenagers in Hong Kong know their value. You can't understand is your loss.

***** Your friends from India and Philippine must be delusional if they think their country is less corrupted than HK. I was asked for bribe once when I was at Philippine airport. Can you just believe in the Corruption Perception Index, not your friends? The index is widely credited and statistically significant. Well, if you really want to talk about economics, here is a credited paper from Harvard: Monitoring Corruption:Evidence from a Field experiment from Indonesia. www.nber.org/papers/w11753 Its conclusion states:" increasing grass-roots participation had little impact overall. The findings suggest that grass-roots monitoring may be subject to free-rider problems. Overall, the results suggest that traditional top-down monitoring can play an important role in reducing corruption, even in a highly corrupt environment." This is another example showing that democracy is not ALWAYS the best tool for fighting corruption. This example is supported by numbers, not by subject perceptions. There are many facts out there which shows that democracy is not ALWAYS the best tool. I am not completely rejecting democracy, maybe you should not completely rejecting authoritarianism as well. That's all I am asking.

Hear here! He was right on his predictions. 7 years ago I would have received this speech completely differently.

So when are you moving to China?

Rotfl

You dont see how this system work like Western companies? Imagine a bad owner ruling your country and the only way to change it is to go through the owners system of selection. Good luck.

@@patrikpass2962 They apparently have an internal electoral process within the party system to vote for and elect their president. True, they can end up electing a bad president but the same can be true for Western democracies.

哈哈哈，讽刺的是，现在只有51万了。

damn bro

yes, I am also wondering, thought that I remembered wrongly

youtub twitter FB have their fine way to censor the unwished information

Youtue is deleting them slowly, and they also deleting the subscibe which looks kind of Wall, this is not American freedom.

No way this video was 8 years ago? Damn what his saying is correct.

@@inkbold8511 Yes, posted on 2013.

Which projections? I'm looking at the 3 at 15:30 China has made great strides in becoming the world's second largest economy(based on GDP), but being generous 2025 would be the earliest when China surpasses the U.S. China has made little progress at increasing their TI rating with a 2013 rank of 80, and as of 2020 sits at 78th place, so they're probably not getting higher than 70 for 2023 For the last statement I don't quite know how to measure it, but I'll say that the 1 party system is currently going strong. However with the removal of term limits, it may be heading in other directions as power gets centralized(problem he mentioned at 6:46).

@@davidspecht8043 I believe the OP of this comment meant that he predicted it. This is quite an old video, posted in 2015.

@@DrakeLimOfficial I might be looking in the wrong place then, as I'm assuming the predictions are the ones he gave at 15:30, and China is not on track to become the largest economy within the 10 year span(though they made impressive progress), nor did they make significant progress towards improving their TI ranking. Also youtube gives the upload date of videos below the title. It says Jul 1, 2013 for me, so presumably the talk had to be either on that day or before.

No, you are.

​@@datinginwest 😍 🥰 😘 😉

For sure Barrie, Eric Li tells it like it is. These older conversations and the work of the good expat vloggers is taking on more power every year. CHINA IS SPEEDING UP HISTORY. Unstoppable is being used more and more in daily conversation around the world. You and Brian used it in your recent video, Xi jinping mentioned it, and it is appearing in more and more articles about China. In regard to the West, laughable and suicidal are appearing more and more. Keep up the good work, big hug.

Logical? Whole of China is now a full dictatorship under Xi.

America has been divided badly. Each party has viewed the other as its enemy. The British style democracy is better in the sense that they need to talk and compromise to each other to form a government. In other words, to the least, they need to work together as partners.

@@dapengxiong British Democracy is still mostly a 2 party system where the main parties never compromise with each other. Although partisanship is more extreme in the US it exists in every country with political parties vying for power.

@@Andy-em8xt Thx for mentioning that. But I still believe that it should be better.

Nah, it's just that the filth got more to the surface. It has always been there.

"AMERICA IS BACK" - Biden

And the cost.

The main reason China was able to achieve this is because of US investment. Corporate greed is the downfall of the US. Right now the US has forbidden the sale of advanced computer chips to China. As usual, because of corporate greed, The US allows the sale of the machinery to make those chips to China. Despite everything that is going on right now, the US biggest investment banks are still selling Chinese-based financial products to their customers. With the war going on in Ukraine, China is buying gas/petrol from Russia and it is selling it to Europe. "Europe" is acting like "they" do not where the gas/petrol is coming from. "They" are just a bunch of hypocrites.

@@curtisalex456 Wrong. The small amount of USA investment doesn't compare at all to the direct investment that came from the overseas Chinese diaspora all over the world. That's the main contribution to China's success.

interesting point

As the saying goes, the American way is the best way. ;)

🤣🤣 It took 30 years for China to realize the failure of socialism (something that should have been extremely obvious) and implement capitalism, and then another decade or two to fully settle on capitalism. If that is the hallmark of adaptability, I have no idea what isn't.

@Sean Hard Widespread starvation did not exist before the great leap forward. Your idea that China is extremely dependent on imported fertilizers is false. Do you know the 2 conditions the US gives Iran to stop all sanctions? Stop funding systematic terrorism in the middle east, and stop the nuclear program. That is literately it. But sure...the US sanctions Iran because it wants to loot its resources... I'm curious, do you actually believe the Chinese government is home to selfless angles, and everyone else's government is home to devils? There's no difference, they are all humans. The 'evils' you accuse the west of applies equally well to China once it obtains world power. Except the fact that the CCP is unconstrained by the citizenry and a free press. If you think the west is evil now, imagine what they're capable of if its citizens and the press are not there to expose and constrain their evil. That is what China will be like after it gains world power.

@Sean Hard Not even the CCP blamed "western sanctions" for the famine, they blamed the great leap forward, the anti-rightist campaign, natural disasters and the USSR. www.gov.cn/test/2008-06/23/content_1024934_2.htm en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Chinese_Famine#Natural_disasters

Ha ha ha! Gotcha! YOU"VE been propagandized!

So true. Just look at the coming election in USA. Instead of focussing on how to improve livelihood, safety and transparency n accountability, Trump n his camp Vs Biden n his camp are both targeting China to score political points. Shocking to say the least!!!

@@teckchuonting4582 i feel so bad for the colored or minority in america. Its not even covered, president didn't even address how to rectify the problem, all he cares is rating. I mean you meant to have a government by the people for the people. That isn't showing in america right now

You must understand, the hua Xia civilization had 8 golden ages in 5000 years. We are currently in our 10

He’s correct about a lot of things, but crucially his prediction on corruption has not come true. I really admire this talk, but China was ranked as a 42 on the last Transparency Index. Corruption has not come close to being curbed yet.

@@daniellien6704 To Chinese citizen, it was improved significently.

You can't wait someone pretending to sleep. But the cold hard floor can.

@@daniellien6704 Thats exactly what he predicted. Curbed, but not eliminated, and move up 10-20 notches.

​@@daniellien6704 I don't think so,In fact, that ranking is inaccurate,Doesn’t reflect reality...Because countries around the world have different definitions of corruption,There is no uniform standard，Many countries have greatly relaxed the criteria for defining corruption,To legitimize corruption,Corruption isn’t corruption anymore.The statistics immediately became beautiful, but in fact it was not true,The quickest way to combat corruption is to legalize corruption, which is a helpless irony, but it is widely accepted，China has not taken this road, has not compromised on corruption, and the legal definition of corruption is clear,The punishment is severe and has been actively combating corruption,And further improve the anti-corruption system and continue to develop,good results have been achieved, The behavior of many countries, including the United States, is serious corruption by Chinese standards，But it's legal in those countries, In China, corruption is still corruption,，Can identify it and contain it,But in some countries corruption is no longer corruption，It’s hard to identify it, much less contain it，Although the people may be aware of the problem, there is nothing they can do,Can't be more desperate.

"According to the World Bank, more than 850 million people have lifted themselves out of extreme poverty as China's poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 0.7 percent in 2015" It really is a miracle. Those numbers are insane.

You are obviously a CCP-paid shill...or maybe I just missed your overuse of sarcasm.

@@BrandonAEnglish The only thing you missed out on is that you're obviously a fuckwit, something you've made very clear to others.

@@BrandonAEnglish Nope, false. Try again.

You are the very example why democracy can fail. It is hard to admit but some people are stupid sometimes.

You are easily manipulated my smallminded friend if you think this isnt chinese propaganda. You are a fool of the tallest order.

@86Corvus and you are absolutely the biggest hypocrite there has to be. Your self projection of US propaganda about China doesn't means China is doing the reverse in your land.

They won’t listen

The Chinese Communist Party definitely draws on Singapore's example. Their relationship is excellent.

Singapore is the size of a small city in China! Yes, it’s well run but ,with 1.4b people, China couldn’t possibly model after Singapore. Even the brightest in Singapore couldn’t possibly run China either.

@paysanfrancais7045 really good point, it's much easier to have higher GDP per capita with fewer people. This goes to show you can't apply the same political and economic system to every country, in every case the system must account for a variety of situations exclusive to them. Leaders need to study case examples and find out what works best for them. I also believe voting is better with fewer people, but then again I don't believe in everyone having a vote

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance." -- H.L. Mencken

@@wyt168 Just go to China.

@@iche9373 democracy is fucking dumb

The reason is that the citizens of liberal democracy have a higher expectation of their politicians. Expectations that correspond to ideals such as integrity, etc. Integrity such as adherence to treaties, which cannot necessarily be expected from a one-party state like the People's Republic.

The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter.

You got it.

Yeah, but China has a Problem. It doesnt want other nations recognize Taiwan as an independent nation. WHY? It's because of his EGO.

@@iche9373Taiwan is part of China. Just like California is part of the U.S.A. It has nothing to do with EGO.

@@oscarchute5702 California joined the United States because it wants the Union. The U.S.A. is a voluntary Union, and you can leave the U.S. at any time. The PR China is NOT a voluntary Union.

@@iche9373 u can also say the nationalist who went there arent chinese lmao... cpc vs nationalists both chinese, nationalist went to taiwan so they became independent? who said so? themselves? ahh thats democracy

Move to China immediately. Considering your name I guess you are from India which is so friendly with China, or Sri Lanka which soon enough will be owned by China.

Daniel Krzysiek man, you're persistent. Are you a bot?

@@apersonfromtheinternet3444 are you a bot looking for comments from same account? Airtight reasoning genius

@@danielkrzysiek Are you kidding? "Freiendly with China"? India?

@@user-ng5dp8oi5i so sad you can't buy sarcasm sense

canyocu China 🇨🇳 #1 but communism doesn’t work

Piper Pruiksma If you call this “communism” you need to study the definition of the word. Socialism perhaps, but it’s absurd to call it “communism” these days.

Piper Pruiksma China is one of the most F U CK disgusting crap in the world

Gare Accelerator poor guy

朱文彬 you are talking about yourself and go back to where you come from

Im not agreed. - China ends with the extreme poverty in all the country, being a world record never achieved for anyone else, more than 800 millions of people (data from the world bank), that cannot be achieved with high corruption. - China is currently the top country in science contribution, not only in quantity but also in quality (said by the nature magazine). - China leads in 37 of 44 technologies tracked in a year-long project by thinktank the Australian Strategic Policy Institute. (And this is on going). - China is the first economy in the world if you measure it by GDP PPP (By country) and is projected that If nothing of that is not a big achievement for a country that just 70 years ago was more poor that any African Country and also having in mind that not other country has achieve this in all the entire history of humanity, I don't know what is it.

Sounds like China people when they voted Xi :))

@@dealingdesler1737 We didnt vote Xi. We are kind of dictatorship, and most of us dont vote. But we believe in CCP's choice. And if we voted, we're more likely to elect someone who's willing blow up taiwan by force and unify china. That'll be insane.

@@wobhineven47 So how about the concentration camps, is that a good choice?

@ wob Hineven There's no need to put words into my mouth. That's just a way to evade the question: Do you think the CCP concentration camps are a good idea?

@@triplemania5550 To play devil's advocate, US also houses concentration camps for migrant detainees and forced separation of children from their parents. That being said, the answer is of course not. No country will admit to concentration camps being a good idea.

@@dareartes4232 You don't give up. Someone explains something in relatable terms and you label it propaganda. Do you read Joseph Mc Carthy every night ?

@dareartes4232 What you do is called "trolling" @

Thought it was crazy because I thought the same

YT is pathetic

Same here, when I watched it was at least 1.1 mil

You are questioning democratic freedom! you are fake news😜

It is now 0.95 million view from June 2022. And maybe this is why Musk want to purchase Twitter

Jack Me-Hoff okay loser

@Jack Me-Hoff OK muyangquan

对的，经济基础决定上层建筑，网上说来说去没多大意义。

给我上去

绝对的。随便翻一翻评论就能看到，骂中国现有体制骂的最狠的不是歪果仁而是中国人，贼难辩🤔

@@GTItoTTS 除非给他们发钱，辩论是没用的

头像是谁啊

China would have much more confident on democracy if Republicants show a little care about American value, or some sort of ability of self correction.

As chinese old saying(more than 2000 years old) when three people work toghter,other two people must have advantage you could learn.

@@qigao7339 I think you are right. Peace to you.

@@mengjiehan1331 That sounds true. Peace to you.

USA as one party republican state sounds wonderful. Hopefully Americans copy Chinese model.

Because of the wuhan virus

Wuhn virus ftw

@@kainson8867 funny mud go pee

CCP VIRUS -

Jingmin Zhou It won’t be.As long as there are still assumptions about China no amount of good that China does can change the westerner’s mind because they can always twist it.Covid 19?Blame China.Send medical aids?Claim that they are faulty.In this communicative capitalism rumors,mere expressions of affections and anger always spread faster than speeches,articles and careful analysis.This is the same in China as well.

Each of his predictions went wrong lmao.

His TED speech is a TRAP! PR China is now a 100% Dictatorship.

PR China is just an autocratic state with totalitarian elements

That is precisely his point.

people hate the truth ....

because lot of people can see through the bullshit...notice how at the start he compares the two different world views, almost as if on equal terms...chinese mentality, US mentality...then proceeds to throw in a few clips of US presidents, mocking them openly for cheap laughs. Yeah, but he didnt do same for any of chinese leaders. hmm why not? because he cant. In Chinese "wonderful" system, he would lose his job immediately and may be put in jail or even killed. He knows it full well but banking on nobody noticing. Typical hypocrisy. use the benefit of western openness and freedom against the west to undermine it and keep china afloat. milk western markets but close chinese markets off. enjoy education from the west, but supress own people freedom of thought...clone every invention of westerners and then isolate from chinese market as soon as possible. its a parasitic way, and yet....to have the nerve to stand up and boast of chinas superior single party rule over freedom and democracy. The fact the audience dont see through this propaganda, giving standing ovation at the end is deeply disturbing to me...chinese can never vote out their government for better or for worse....they enjoy growth now but in reality their situation is highly precarious.

truth is not always good to know

@@lastfreegeneration984 don,t make me laugh hahaha

Western democracies by and large have a far greater quality of life for their average citizen, less arbitrary arrest and persecution, more intellectual freedom, and a more stable economic and political order. This is observable in virtually every statistic that tracks things of this nature, and is evident through even brief observation.

@@davideaton6733I totally agree with you my dear, I am also in favor of democracy yes. But I realize that education and the eradication of poverty in China have had fantastic performances, and that many democratic countries leave something to be desired, especially my country, Brazil, unfortunately. For reflection, I would like to quote Harvard professor Lawrence Lessig's observation, "He argues that our democracy has become corrupted with money, leading to an inequality that means that only 0.02% of the population of the United States actually determines who is in power. Lessig says this fundamental breakdown of the democratic system must be corrected before we can tackle major challenges like climate change, social security and student debt. This is not the most important problem, it's just the first problem." Given this, I think that our democracy needs to improve a lot, and on several fronts. Thanks for your observation! Concordo plenamente com você meu caro, também sou a favor da democracia sim. Mas percebo que a educação e a erradicação da pobreza na China tem tido desempenhos fantásticos, e que muitos paises democráticos deixam a desejar, principalmente o meu país, Brasil, infelizmente. Para reflexão, gostaria de citar a observação do professor de Harvard Lawrence Lessig, "ele argumenta que nossa democracia se corrompeu com dinheiro, levando a uma desigualdade que significa que apenas 0,02% da população dos Estados Unidos realmente determina quem está no poder. Lessig diz que esse colapso fundamental do sistema democrático deve ser corrigido antes que possamos enfrentar grandes desafios, como mudanças climáticas, previdência social e dívida estudantil. Este não é o problema mais importante, é apenas o primeiro problema." Diante disso, penso que a nossa democracia precisa melhorar muito, e em diversas frentes. Grato pela sua observação!

@@davideaton6733 Is that why the USA has the highest incarceration rate in the world.

@@joseaglaisdeoliveirafilhoa793 The system of democracy in the West always ends in corrupted politics with the rulers being the rich, and ruling for the rich.

@@bobsmith3983 I fundamentally disagree with the way you define incarceration. I would argue that North Korea, Eritrea, etc have higher incarceration rates due to their regime's extreme control of their populations. China is a similarly restricted nation-- look at the overuse of government force in Shanghai. Are you really free if the government can suddenly and arbitrarily exercise violence against you with no recourse?

Am Indian fan....much regards n congratulations 😊😊

You fool, this is Chinese propaganda. Yes we need to eliminate the Chinese totalitarian model, it wants to eliminate freedom, and it will do so if we don't resist their attempts at destroying democracy, we must free the Chinese people!

@@DaniboyBR2 nuh, we dont need to be 'freed', never. We live a better life than most of the places in the world, and we never feel been 'ruled' or whatever. Only brainwashed westerners think like that.

exactly.

@@lizhao12345 Yes, look at what situation that great system got us all in.

@@triplemania5550 so? what situation r u talking about?

It is not democracy that is corrupt it is the people who have the position.. Corruption in China is far worse than the democratic country.. They dont even let the fishermen fish in their own country.

Romulo Pahuyo Come to China! Come to see how happy people live there! How hardworking the people are! It has a lot of problems just as other counties. However, I don’t think those problems can be solved by either one people one vote or freedom of speaking.

@@romulopahuyo5542 comment from Canada... it is not true. Politicians do go to jail in China if make mistakes include corruption or made significant loss, never seen one in Canada. I simply dont believe Canadian politicians are 100% clean and competent. They are generally more like "speech giver " than good manager. It seems to me like things will be "arranged" to protect the image of the "public serve sector" in Canada. In contrast, chinese policition are 100% accountable as there will not be election to get you a free "out of jail " ticket.

NOt compared to china they are not, are you fucking kidding?

Wow. Chinese communist system is the future. Its the most one available today. Their presidents are basically the best of the best working from ground up. Basically any chinese citizens can be a president if they have the capability and merits. The CCP is basically a big company instead of a bunch of old people fighting each other to stay in power. In most democratic countries, the citizens basically have only 2 candidate to vote from and there is a good chance both can be a total losers

@@blardymunggas6884 not necessarily true, just because communism works in China doesn't necessarily mean it works in other countries. Every country should choose its own political system that is practical and suitable based on its conditions, blindly copying other political systems will only lead to disaster.

@SH W its because their communist system is outdated like barbarians. China’s communist party have adopted a modern hybrid system. Go watch a talk on TED about the chinese communist system

"Elect and regret",hahaha

Who would actually love to be able to just throw opponents in the jail. That's what he is envious of ccp

turn the circle of election and regret into the circle of election and fear......

And the economy and his approvals were extremely high. Yes.

@@86Corvus Poor kid, even Fox doesn't believe so.

Exactly. Each country needs to develop its own modem that fits with its own history, culture and society, because every country is different.

If you know enough hard facts it is easy to predict the future

Yeah, but China has a Problem. It doesnt want other nations recognize Taiwan as an independent nation. WHY? It's because of his EGO.

@@iche9373 Do you know why the army of China is called PLA？The civil war is not ended, China is not a united country. And the Area you called Taiwan is nominated as "Republic of China". Learn more abot then history, you'll find you are deeply cheated by the western media.

@@ycj9299 China is already united. Just end the stupid Civil War by recognizing Taiwan as an independent state.

@@iche9373 You might as well count on California's independence.

@@iche9373 why? There are two ways to end civil war you know? Why not the other way? Because you don't like it?Who do you think you are LOL

可能因为时间原因，没有细展开，西方人很想知道的是中国没有民主选举，怎么把人民的意见反馈到中央，演讲者只说了政府也会做各种民调，但这只是其中一种，更多的可能要讲到人民代表大会制度和民主协商机制

@@manleyliu7975 What about opinions that they don't want to hear, can you still read that on Caixin? 李文亮： 我觉得一个健康的社会不该只有一种声音，不同意利用公权力过分干预

@@triplemania5550 公权力干预他向内部扩散的原因是“防范扩散焦虑”，这么做的问题不在于公权力介入而在于不应该介入管理专业人士的交流。 如果说问题在于公权力介入，这一片应当彻底放开不予以管理的话，口罩厂商可以每天放出“新病毒来袭”的消息谋利，别人也可以做同样的事，这个自由的巨大代价恐怕得每个人（包括政府）来承担。 预报自然灾害的自由应当保障，但仅限于专业人员。

@@manleyliu7975 我原本对人民代表大会和民主协商机制还是深信不疑的，直到没有一票反对某人修改宪法通过终身制。原来这就是个笑话。

@@windyhawk 没有终身制，中国共产党党章规定党员干部不得终身制，只要国家领导人是党员就没有终身制，只是原来定死了是两任现在可能做多一任。

Rahul Sarma hahaha

nah, thanks to our forefathers, weve get MAD with them. so, safety wont be a problem.otherwise, i cant think of a thousand things more valuable than oil for them to invade.

Fun fact: China has oil fields in Xinjiang.

Evan China has more oil than yhe Middle East, West still cant go inside China.

So Saudi should have seen democracy long ago, by ur logic?

+Critic Lee ikr

+Critic Lee Eric X LiI hope US top leaders have same opinion with Chris, that would be so wonderful for China. Sadly, they are not that stupid.

+Cai Stuart How it would be bad for China? Because we'd take our business out of that communist shithole. Which means no jobs for communist trolls like you.

Comrade Stalin you have no idea what I was saying...rude american

Cai Stuart My bad, I thought you were implying something totally different. Sorry.

A multipolar world, as Lis is postulating, tends to be more unstable and susceptible to crises. Just saying.

Congratulations on thinking radically (Literally, this(√) is the radical sign)

We will burn all of China

Shiro Ishii LOL snowflake can’t tolerant different speech! Enjoy the current American chaotic democracy. ur welcome giant baby

She has agreed to have her rights away

Sinophobic west-worshipers are MAD MAD. Lol. Childhood indoctrination is rough...

Hahahaha

I think US citizens also vote on issues at local level periodically. But the changes are slow to come by and the system is increasingly getting hijacked by elites and special interest group which do not reflect the collective benefits of the society as a whole.

In reality, officials are more often promoted for their ability to brown-nose and carry out his superiors' will. National leadership positions are available to members of the oligarchy exclusively. Ask me how I know.

PolarMhS Wise words, though as a Chinese individual I really dislike how I am bound by so much restriction in life say not being able to get an individual visa for Taiwan or online censorship because of the need to stay ‘politically correct’ so the party says

@@browseyoutube5569 I do understand how you feel. Many people in China choose to use VPNs to access the uncensored web if they really want to use it. Well, perhaps you're using a VPN yourself to watch RU-vid : ). With regard to censorship policies, I believe the Chinese government follows a "safety first" mindset, trying to keep political animosity as low as possible in the general public so that there is little risk of unrest. I don't think it's really about being "politically correct" in the Western sense (being non-discriminatory and proper when talking about others). Pay close attention to online discussions on any Western social media networks and you'll notice the trend of opposing political factions (i.e. liberal vs conservative) being continually vicious toward each other and at each other's throats, without actually voicing many constructive ideas. The political realm on today's internet is like a sheet of white noise, a perpetual shouting match where most individuals can only focus on the voices similar to their own. I think you have the right to hold thoughts of criticism on your government, but in my opinion we should also consider that the party may be trying to protect ordinary people from this kind of aggression between individuals that so often occurs in political "conversations" (although yes, civil and thoughtful discussions can definitely exist online if you look for them). On another note, if you look at the situation in Hong Kong, you'll see that having uncensored internet doesn't necessarily make people more informed. Hong Kong has no internet censorship, but local and overseas media fed the youth a false narrative: that Carrie Lam's extradition bill would allow Beijing to politically persecute residents of Hong Kong. In reality, the extradition bill revolved heavily around Hong Kong's existing legal system, making extradition possible only for crimes punishable under Hong Kong law - and only those severe enough for a sentence of at least 7 years. But as we now know, the online media stirred up an frenzy of hysteria and fear that overexaggerated the situation. To make things worse, the fact that Hong Kong has little to no legal restrictions on foreign organizations meant that anyone from the CIA or NED could sponsor and fund the most violent of protestors. First they broke into the city's legislative building. Then they blocked doors in the metro stations to prevent ordinary citizens from going to work. Then they made Molotov cocktails and petrol bombs, blocking roads and setting local pro-police businesses on fire. Not long later, the rioters stoned an elderly man to death while he was cleaning up a street. There's plenty of footage of these events, but many of the protesters there still refuse to acknowledge it. They yell and shout "police brutality" around the clock at officers who'd gotten fed up with protesters hammering them with baseball bats, poles, and umbrellas. You see, the protestors make the personal choice to focus only on social media narratives that tell them again and again that they're "oppressed" when in reality Hong Kong is already one of the most politically free places in the world. Ironically, with the lives of ordinary citizens being disrupted in such a manner, the protests have actually made the lifestyle of many Hongkongers less free. Indeed, while censorship puts restrictions on the internet usage of individuals, one thing it is good for is preventing mass hysteria and fearmongering, such as what we've seen in Hong Kong over the past 6-7 months. I mentioned the Hong Kong problem to make a point, but that aside, I think that when the West's attitudes toward China become less condescending and more sympathetic, the party might just consider reducing restrictions on travel and reducing censorship. Of course, I also believe that the party sometimes goes overboard with its restrictions. They have made their fair share of mistakes in the past as well. No government ever stops evolving, though. Hopefully the government in China will continue to adapt to societal changes in a way that makes life more enjoyable and free for Chinese people without compromising the country's security. Haha, I've written so much. Best wishes to China's future and to world peace!

previous life??

@@FirstnameLastname-ml5bp I think that person meant something else lol; they don't see to be a native English speaker

Meritocracy? The whole system is a dictatorship and Xi is now the Emperor.

@@FirstnameLastname-ml5bp Probably meant previous job.

In my previous life I was at the Port of Tianjin and its economic development zone. The level of asskissing required, bribery, partying and pleasing the bosses was so ingrained that the worst came out on top culminatining in the massive explosion that blew up part of the economic development zone. Thieving was a way of life there. Shows how your Port might have been a shining example of meritocracy in a sea of curruption.

Xinwei Sher but sadly there is no more term limits for Xi

If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. ~Elmer Fudd

@@jackjam1995 well he is not like white people so it's okay

陈涛 我严重怀疑他是穿越回去的😄

除了一条，就是国家主席终身制，虽然是个名誉职位，不过腐败是真的治理的好，重拳出击了。

@@harborzeng2037 Eric好像其实一直是很反对这个的。他给终身制写的辩护文章和别的文章和演讲比明显有失水准

陈涛 他说的预测哪个应验了？1）中国的TI 还是排名第80 （2013 年 也是第80），2）人均GDP 还在世界第65 以后，3）国家经济现在搞国进民退开倒车。4）国家主席终生制跟他说的英才制相违背

@@wujunng 这次的新冠肺炎处理结果已经出来了，你还不明白吗？----在美留学生留。