Escher vs Goliath Necromunda : Underhive Mini Campaign Episode 1 

Yes, two actions but it also stipulates you get to attack once as well as a free action.

GHOST11656 I’ll comment so I can get the answer aswell. :p

Same, should I give up on using gangs for 40k chaos cultists and/or 30k militia?

SwordlordRoy I dont think they fit very well as cultists. Their weapons are a bit too advanced for my liking.

Slaanesh cultist with exotische equipment.

SwordlordRoy What about a regiment of female guard astra militarum....????

Apparently Overwatch is a Skill now, not a core rule.

Since they have two actions, two fighters could potentially pin each other down indefinitely. First shoots, hits, but fails to wound. Second fighter is pinned. The second get up from pinning with the first action, and shoots with the second, hitting but failing to wound. First fighter is pinned. And on it goes until someone either flees or manages to hurt the other guy. So I don't think it is too bad.

Storm 1030 I think if you check out the old citadel journals that games workshop used to do when they were less money centric you could find stat lines for them.

Kelly Davis The Gang War supplement re-introduces 3d combat to the game. I reckon the Underhive set is designed to not overwhelm new players with complex rules.

Storm 1030 yes. All 6 original gangs are scheduled to be released throughout 2018, as per interviews with Andy Hoare on the Warhammer Twitch channel. They can't make them all at one time.

Jsh Pk I can understand that. the two gangs released are very nice detailed models can't wait to see the others

assuming i like the models once i get my box set i plan on getting one set of each gang as they come out. even if i dont like the new rules theres always the old ones or well done homebrew rulesets like inquisimunda

Orlock are next, models got revealed today.

yeah Goliath have some really good stats since toughness is lost when you take a flesh wound they can pertinently get up more often then other gangs as well as be harder to drop in the first place, they also stick around longer with their nice cool checks. eacha have movement and initiative, im not really Shaw what initiative is for, eachas strength is probably their weapons. if they were un leveled i would give eacha a slight advantage as long as the player new what they were doing, but after that the goliaths would probably get really hard to kill and gas weapons will become less effective.

only if you roll a hit on the scatter die.

Sorry I'm wrong XD

She had more than one weapon. One of your guns running out of ammo doesn't stop you from firing another weapon or, in this case, throw a grenade.

She still gets to swing with the reaction attack :)

Such is life in the Underhive.

It's S & L on the cards, Short and Long, they guy just had a brain fart.

Yes, I saw/have seen the the card. After months of Short & Long range in 8th tho [not to mention SW:A], *brain fart* is... convenient & kind.

While we are on it, why not shout "Brae Mode!" in an autotune voice when activating her? ;p

It shares some fluff with 40k and it looks like they've expanded quite a bit on the allready existing Necromunda's background. More will come with further gangs. Yeah seems like a great game to me too.

Nagg Ash Hey thanks for the reply. I was aware of it being in the same universe. I was moreso speaking of the main factions in the parent game i love alot. Never heard much of Necromunda so gonna do some research and get an idea of the gangs and overall setting. Now to save $130 lol

same was going to start Tyranids in 40k and saw this on the first day of preorder and it looks good. Definitely a lot cheaper and easier to get into than 40k. With this I can have my parents get me the main box, gang war, and an extra gang box for each gang, and then I can use my own money to get paints and a some Sector Mechanicus terrain. A way better deal than like half my christmas being 40k rule books and the other half a few models for an army that needs a large amount of models/expensive monstrous creatures.

They are quite different games, you'll regularly see 40k games with 150+ models on a table while Necromunda usually is 12 to 20 models on a few game tiles. Dark Imperium is a solid deal, you get two good starters, all the rules and wathever you need to play. It's the best starter box i've ever seen for 40k. A full army in 40k can cost you several thousand dollars if you fancy out. But they are not the same game at all, you can only expand so much a necromunda gang while 40k can take you for day long battles, evolve into apocalypse games and such. I'm very glad that Necromunda is back, it looks well done and it's itching my wallet.

Haechi i can see that but i see elements of malifaux and warmachine being inserted into the game. There are some interesting mechanics that i may of may not like. I think part of the problem is to not to compare it to the larger 40k game because there doesnt seem much crossover. I did like what I’ve seen so far.

Haechi it may just seem klanky because they’re new to the game, my first game of shadespire took all evening but now there are people at my store who can play 15 minute games with me without having to talk to eachother.

You mean Malifaux and Warma have elements of Necromunda in their games, since most of these rules are back from old Necromunda.

I couldn’t speak to that since I haven’t played the original. But I do want to try this one.

Compared to 40k or sigmar it is but that's the point. Fewer models with more dice rolling to cover in more detail many of the actions in a shootout/gang battle.

Old Necromunda was pretty much dead, so something new a fresh to revamp it. If people preferred the old rules then surely a lot more people would have still been playing it?

GW abandoned Necromunda and all their other Specialist Games around 20 years ago, mostly because they profitted more from selling massive WH/WH40k instead of a dozen models to each player. The Specialist Games were always very popular, just ask anyone who played them back in the days. But as production of models stopped and were eventually removed from the GW webshops, how long were you expecting these games to be played? The only way to get a game going would be to pay extreme prices for them on eBay. Which people still did, btw. Me and my game group have been playing Necromunda since it came out, and we've all bought a lot of our stuff on eBay over the years - which is why I know that models there have a very high turnover, despite the prices, especially for the more popular gangs. So that's why people weren't playing it. No support, no models, no love, no players. That seems to be changing now, happily enough. Not only are they bringing back their Specialist Games, but they're making new GW always made amazing game, only ruined by their business practices. And I don't think that's a controversial thing to say. Most people who play their games know that. Let's just hope they support these games better this time around.

First up, we need to realize that guys like you and me (old timers in this hobby obviously) are not the target audience for this market any more. Where we used to take the front row as loyal fans, GW is adapting to the market of a much more ruthless company policy than we in this hobby has ever seen. I am of course talking about the board games section of the store corner. Play one game of a FFG and you will know in an instant what a money-grubbing company really looks like! In truth, GW is like a baby in comparison. But on to my point. Making money by selling a product, its as basic as it comes that a new customer spends as much as he ever will during his first year in the hobby. By the time he is a veteran of twenty years he barely spends nothing. He already has everything he needs to play, he´s learned every trick in the book regarding conversions and has a bitz box the size of a truck! And he has also learned that loyalty gives you nothing, and thus buys from other miniature makers on the market. Needless to say, he gives next to nothing to the company that wants his money, in this case GW. GW knows this, and thus now aims to take on a new crowd, the crowd that looks for a slightly more advanced board game with added miniatures. And its brilliant, as GW really makes some of the best miniatures out there when you compare them to other "board games" produced by companies like Guillotine Games or FFG, and that the market for these games are huge when you compare them to the miniature wargame hobby. And heres the kicker, It will also act as a springboard to new customers to delve deeper in to the world of GW, and giving everyone who buys a copy of lets say Shadespire or Necromunda, the chance to become a new player of the larger franchise of GW, namely 40k and AoS. I strongly believe that these type of products will be more and more common in the world of GW, and will probably greatly increase the fan-base of the miniature wargame hobby (at least that's what I think GW is hoping for).

I agree, I'm kinda worried my metal figs will decrease in value when they bring out new plastic sets. I own Van Saar in Necromunda and Sister of Battle for 40k, I'm a sucker for the old 90's models, I'm not a huge fan of plastic sets, especially flimsy models, as this guy proves by breaking one during this video haha But I am really looking forward to fresh campaigns and boards and rules. People forget the old Necromunda campaigns and rules are still there to fall back on, hell, maybe people will abandon the new rules in place of the old ones if they're so bad.

just saying the guy didnt actually break his model in the video. it just came off the base. a metal model could have done the same thing. still the metal models are sturdier. but they are also a great deal harder to customise

That is what happens when mushmouth Josh tries to pronounce names.

MWG Josh when you roll a 1 on intelligence.

Keep it calling her 'Murica. Sounds cool.

Her sister Europoor is introduced in Gang War.

Yeah, them Goliaths are moe as hell.

E X T R A H I C C

Kawaii Goliath chan.

Watching at 0.75x speed was helpful!

i think its like Necromunda lite and you need Gang War for the full game or something.

This is the 'Zone Mortalis' style, which comes in the box and represents fights in networks of tunnels and corridors (think Space Hulk). Rules for the classic '3D' style, as well as true campaign play, are in the Gang War supplement book which launches same day.

+legionaireb GW has discovered day-1-DLC...

oh i forgot the scatter templates.... loosest and sloppiest rule in miniature gaming

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