Etho Plays Minecraft - Episode 311: Pigmen Overload 

Xisuma knows it all!

Lol, I thought I was wathcing a video by you now.. Loveya

xisumavoid : The new version of Minecraft 1.7.4 seems to be producing more lag than 7.2, the spikes are worse. I am wondering if the entities have been piling up when the little chicken-jockies despawn, leaving the egg-layers (chickens) everywhere to hold other mobs (mainly zombies) standing around with eggs... thusly, the spikes are increasing because these mobs in turn are held in memory and have to be fed into uploading anytime there is a chunk update? Consequently, these mobs only increase as they will not despawn. So, when a player moves around, there are chances for this to occur, anywhere they have been, thought it may not happen often, when it does, there will be a trapped problem festering until it can be discovered, and who knows how long that could be? If you do not ever find the pocket, it can be possible for the pocket to take up the full 80 entities, and no new mobs would spawn elsewhere. Its a theory, I would be happy to know if I am wrong.

@@ThimbleStudios yeh guys 1.17.1 can be laggy, lucky the 1.18 pre releases are getting better

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That's not the case with me. No villages nearby to make my game latent. haha.

I am definitely getting this too, even in Peaceful worlds with very few friendlies around. It seems to be worst when loading entirely new chunks and is eased when I'm around chunks that I've loaded pretty often (i.e. my base and such). A lot of other people have been reporting similar things with 1.7.3, but it is much worse with 1.7.4. I'm assuming it has something to do with the bugfix fixing improper chunk loading distances, as versions up to 1.7.2 using the new numeric-selection loading system (i.e. being able to pick how many chunks to load exactly) bugged out for selections from 9 to 16 chunks and would pretty much only load 8 for the most part, which is what gave earlier 1.7 versions that weird black haze out in the distance while standing under shade. I've been dropping my chunk loading back down to 8 or 9 down from 10 to 12. It helps a bit, but even that is fairly bad. Below that is fine. So something in the chunk loading code is probably causing all the tick lag, or that now since that the code has been fixed, we are actually seeing real performance on our computers for the first time. However I may be missing details. That's as far as a few hours of observation and research have gotten me.

That entire piece of research you did there. I can confirm that all of that applies to my worlds as well. I also thought it was because of world size, entity count, ect. All of those didn't seem to effect the latency. The Nether is rather laggy in the sense of frame dips. I've also noted it's not a computer problem on my end. Let's players with relatively good computers are having those frame dips as well.

ToryK13 It turned out that after improving my computer's performance, it works as beautifully as it did set to a chunk loading radius of 8 in 1.7.4 as it used to when set to 16 in 1.7.2. So I can definitely assure you it is because of new chunk loading code in 1.7.3/4. And yes, I did notice other LPers were having those problems, so it is definitely not computer spec dependent. So it should be that there are problems with loading chunks with a render distance greater than 8. We might have to wait until 1.8 for an update to that.

1.3 with the introduction of client/server emulation in single player was where it all went downhill. Even in 2022 these problems still persist whereas before 1.3 the game was very smooth.

yeah, u can still break bed rock with the Dark Oak trees. i did it in my survival. :)

I would rather have chickens than lag.

Titanium Zane I'm year latter, but I have to say this was funny :D

mrZcr4fter you need to stop making those evil robot or meet you understand me where are you recording me hello Lala Lala Dr. Smith in church at the church and I didn't

1 block in the Nether is 8 in the Overworld, that would be a very large overworld portal

Squed no it's 10

Weird cool that u noticed

I thought the "Speed Mining" episode was really good too.

he might be partnered

Or you could work on reminding yourself to like the video.

Luis Bonano that's not the point

You can use instant health though.

Narky Clarky Yeah

He knows that, he will use regeneration potions and health potions.

You *CAN* use poison potions on pigmen. Also Etho didn't say damage potions, he said HEALING potions.

Piny regeneration does nothing to undead

NO!!!

Etho has already confirmed he is never using mod at least in THIS Lp series.

no, no no no no no no!