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EU vs. Trump - will the Vatican get their way?: Last week in the Church with John Allen Jr. 

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@rappmasterdugg6825
@rappmasterdugg6825 4 месяца назад
I think you mean Trump presidency, not Trump papacy. Although that would be far more fascinating.
@cw-on-yt
@cw-on-yt 4 месяца назад
As a non-Catholic, Trump is canonically ineligible; and as a non-cardinal, he's relatively unthinkable even if he _had_ been Catholic! So, that's a form of entertainment we aren't going to get to see. But, man, if that _were_ possible? Pop the popcorn! It would be an endless chain of exaggerated statements of dubious accuracy, delivered via non-authoritative platforms and breathlessly-but-tendentiously reported by others according to their ideological motivations, constantly producing eruptions of hot-takes and overwrought reactions, and sucking the oxygen out of the room for every other story! Heck, the only papacy in the last hundred years to resemble it would be.... Oh. I guess I'll go get the popcorn.
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311
@mrkiplingreallywasanexceed8311 4 месяца назад
I always feel a little perkier and more relaxed after a whimsical canter through a week's worth of Vatican shenanigans by the ever sprightly and wry John Allen...😏
@douglaswilkinson5700
@douglaswilkinson5700 4 месяца назад
In ~A.D. 632 Islamic Arab armies rode out of Arabia and attacked, conquered and occupied the Judeo-Christian Holyland then subjugated the indigenous Judeo-Christian population. Christian Egypt was next in A.D. 638. Arab Muslims are not indigenous to Arabia.
@russellking1924
@russellking1924 4 месяца назад
It is the far left media that label disagreeable people as far right. The people that agree with media on the way the country is to go are centrist. Is it far right to defend yourself when your rights are being attacked by someone who believes, for political gain, that your rights are hurting them so they have to attack? So the attacker self-appoints themselves as the political boss and crusades to take away your rights by threats, use of violence, what have you. Is that centrist? No, we all have the same rights.
@Jimboken1
@Jimboken1 4 месяца назад
Even Cardinal Sarah is unknowingly captured by the 'far right' according to Francis in the latest interview book.
@russellking1924
@russellking1924 4 месяца назад
I was baptized a Roman Catholic back in 1958. I don’t ever remember being in a Church with parents ever. My grandfather must’ve felt that all churches had the same thing going on.
@TedSeeber
@TedSeeber 4 месяца назад
​@Jimboken1 if Cardinal Sarah is far right then Pope Francis worships Karl Marx
@Jimboken1
@Jimboken1 4 месяца назад
@@TedSeeber The trouble is it is actually plausible that Pope Francis may indeed worship Karl Marx........
@lorrimang
@lorrimang 4 месяца назад
@@Jimboken1 He only spoke against "unfettered capitalism" as had Benedict. Humanising capitalism with restraints and constraints is conservative.
@markgraham2312
@markgraham2312 4 месяца назад
This was probably a slip of the tongue, but at 11:08 and 11:23 John says "Trump Papacy," instead of "Trump Presidency."
@lodgelawyer
@lodgelawyer 4 месяца назад
Twice.
@Jimboken1
@Jimboken1 4 месяца назад
To be fair even Trump is more catholic than Francis.
@Michael-OConnor1960
@Michael-OConnor1960 4 месяца назад
@@Jimboken1your obviously not a Catholic but may God Bless you
@OrlandaEnriquez
@OrlandaEnriquez 4 месяца назад
I’m a Catholic and I agree.
@Jimboken1
@Jimboken1 4 месяца назад
@@Michael-OConnor1960 Wrong. Mind-reading people you've never met at a distance is never a good sign.
@abucs
@abucs 3 месяца назад
I would take a Trump papacy over a Francis papacy. I don't think Trump would do a great job but he would be better than Francis.
@BCSTS
@BCSTS 4 месяца назад
How do you propose the EU election would in any way influence D. Trump & US election.....?
@jameswilkey3926
@jameswilkey3926 4 месяца назад
Once a week, my mood brightens a bit! Thank you, John Allen Jr.!
@elviraperezayala6982
@elviraperezayala6982 4 месяца назад
❤ thanks for info
@rogerhockett6338
@rogerhockett6338 4 месяца назад
Trump papacy….yes, the ultimate vicar of Christ 😳
@Slovakson1
@Slovakson1 4 месяца назад
John Allen? "A new Trump Papacy in the United States"? Freudian slip if I ever heard one but sadly true in many American's hearts😂🤔😨😥
@galaxyn3214
@galaxyn3214 4 месяца назад
Whether it's William III in the 17th century or Trump in the 21st century, the Vatican is wary of the Orange man.
@Jimboken1
@Jimboken1 4 месяца назад
William of Orange was an avowed enemy of Catholicism unlike Trump who did more for the Catholic Church's teaching on abortion than Pelosi, Biden or any Catholic bishop.
@TedSeeber
@TedSeeber 4 месяца назад
I thought that mercy has destroyed the concept of justice. Is not a just God what Pope Francis wants to avoid?
@lorrimang
@lorrimang 4 месяца назад
I don't think so. Rather we get the choice. To St Faustina "He who won't enter by the door of my mercy must enter by the door of my justice".
@TedSeeber
@TedSeeber 4 месяца назад
@@lorrimang ​@lorrimang according to Cardinal Fernandez and Pope Francis's _The Name of God is Mercy_ there is no choice, only mercy, never justice, especially for those "false accusers" who were abused by the likes of Marco Rupnik or Cardinal McElroy
@minui8758
@minui8758 4 месяца назад
I don’t think you’ve read the text in question, there was a part where it discussed the role of hell, how Gods love allows the sinner who refuses to repent to receive the consequences of his desires. I was also deeply humbled by the idea that Gods mercy is most shown in the fact He hasn’t destroyed us - an idea I picked up from the current Pope during the Mercy Jubilee which certainly affirms the desert of every person is hell. Also his repeated condemnation of the “double life” has been absolutely ruthless, full of threats of hell to clergy who live immoral lives
@TedSeeber
@TedSeeber 4 месяца назад
@@minui8758 and yet, he refuses continually to give the victims of those living double lives justice in this life. There are victims of these sins living in hell on earth RIGHT NOW, while their abusers are given Catdinal Hats to escape prosecution. Hell in the next life may indeed be their destination, but mercy given these abusers in this life just teaches that abuse is the preferred sexuality, the way to get ahead in the Church. And don't you dare be one of those evil breeders who is causing climate change by refusing to use birth control! Actions speak far louder than words. A Pope who is only about mercy for the criminal and no justice for the victim, who is about changing doctrine on the death penalty to get clergy leading double lives out of paying for their sins in this life, is not the Good Shepherd of the Gospels. Since the Jubilee of Mercy, we have seen who mercy is offered to, and who it is not. Those who support sin, get mercy. Those who walk the narrow path, get condemned. St Peter Damien, Pray for Us!
@minui8758
@minui8758 4 месяца назад
@@TedSeeber mate - the pope has made hundreds and hundreds of statements about having children. He’s literally condemned the climate pessimism objection directly and condemned invetro fertilisation and pet substituting when people should adopt. It’s been hugely controversial and has attracted protest from the Italian left literally in the last week and by secular media almost every other month since the pontificate began The rooting out of all priests with any trace of a double life is literally impossible because more than half of all catholic clergy self report they have broken the chastity vow in anonymous surveys. One in five rural Latin American priests live openly with a women. Other stats suggest 50-60% of clergy are homosexual, with a higher proportion in religious orders and urban areas, many of whom are perfectly chaste - how you’d tell which was which and how half of Europe could access the Eucharist afterwards is not clear tho. The important thing is he’s no longer confusing sexually active clergy who break vows with consenting adults with pedophiles or abusers of vulnerable adults. In the past the crimes were viewed as basically identical creating a flourishing culture of blackmail child abusers could rely on. The best way to undermine it would be to get a big supply of straight reliably sexually faithful clergy… ie married men. I think Francis has made a mistake there On the death penalty - this is an obvious and overdue teaching. We don’t execute people in Europe. We just want the rest of the world to get to that degree of moral maturity. Also it’s no punishment… it’s a let off that releases them to the mercy of God. If we want to punish them then 30 years of jail is the most effective method And on “those walking the narrow path”. If by those walking the narrow path if you mean Burke or Muller or that ilk, these are the most rapacious and corrupt hypocrites of the Vatican. I still scream at the account of the journalist who came to Gerhard Mullers flat to find his lover of the previous night leaving. Or all those oh so strict bishops living with 20 something Philippino house boys
@HemeOnc1
@HemeOnc1 4 месяца назад
A Trump papacy? I cannot tell you how nauseating that thought is.
@Jimboken1
@Jimboken1 4 месяца назад
You just did.
@Michael-OConnor1960
@Michael-OConnor1960 4 месяца назад
It’s not a Trump papacy you said it twice - it’s a Presidentcy
@ginniej48
@ginniej48 4 месяца назад
THANK YOU!! He’s pushing his own agenda or who’s side he’s on
@Jimboken1
@Jimboken1 4 месяца назад
I share Israel's indignation response to this woeful Pope's use of genocide. And still no comment from John about Francis desecrating the memory of noble Canadian catholics who strived to help native children. That was a "genocide" as well on his usual horrendous mid-air return flight media conferences. John thought it was cool and no other Pope could have done it which is correct for all the wrong reasons.
@russellking1924
@russellking1924 4 месяца назад
Israel is not bombing the West Bank. God gave that to the Palestinians. What is genocide is saying”From river to sea, Palestine will be free.” They want to be free of the Israelis. Get rid of Israel says that slogan. I don’t like how Netanyahu handled the conflict so far but, he all the Israeli people have.
@kathleenfrancis1872
@kathleenfrancis1872 4 месяца назад
How are you supposed to defend your family when attacked without a gun?. Jesus told his Apostles to arm with swords.
@Michael-OConnor1960
@Michael-OConnor1960 4 месяца назад
Jesus tells them to buy a sword, he was speaking figuratively about imminent persecution. This interpretation, sits with love one another, when the disciples eagerly reveal that they already have two swords, they misunderstand Jesus' figurative language.
@kathleenfrancis1872
@kathleenfrancis1872 4 месяца назад
@@Michael-OConnor1960 I was kinda thinking about the crime that's going on and I believe Jesus would want us to protect our families.
@kathleenfrancis1872
@kathleenfrancis1872 4 месяца назад
@@Michael-OConnor1960 Thank You.
@lorrimang
@lorrimang 4 месяца назад
@@Michael-OConnor1960 No reason to think he was speaking only figuratively. He would have known that some would interpret his words as pacifist and explicitly spoke otherwise.
@Bluewater9
@Bluewater9 4 месяца назад
Thankyou blessings be safe be healthy ⚓️
@andrew-c1y9b
@andrew-c1y9b 4 месяца назад
John Allen Jr........any news on the Ex Cathedra statement coming from the Chair of St Peter???
@larrypicard8802
@larrypicard8802 4 месяца назад
Well nothing has been proclaimed Ex Cathedra for decades. The last two were the Immaculate Conception and Mary's assumption.
@Michael-OConnor1960
@Michael-OConnor1960 4 месяца назад
When declared it is to work around gospel subjects, not to change them but to illuminate and explain absent doctrine, which needs to be clarified.
@pbohearn
@pbohearn 4 месяца назад
Ooooohhh 😮 it is looking like a catfight with two southern Italian alley cats lol
@lorrimang
@lorrimang 4 месяца назад
With the appointment of Maria Agnessi to the chair of mathematics of the university of Bologna, appointed by the Pope himself in 1750, the Pope is arguably the father of feminism.
@ginniej48
@ginniej48 4 месяца назад
Absolutely, the US should pull back and recover from ALL the resources handed out.
@2945antonio
@2945antonio 4 месяца назад
John, I do not understand why the negotiations between the two ladies at the opposite ends of the labour dispute have any more ramifications than it would be the case had the litigants been men. Having a woman at the top of an organization or on a professional role, need not be news anymore, I submit. Thank you.
@Michael-OConnor1960
@Michael-OConnor1960 4 месяца назад
Yes I got lost on that report
@MrBillBronx
@MrBillBronx 4 месяца назад
What a weird coincidence: European centrists want stronger EU influence over defense and foreign policy. The MAGA foreign policy is essentially isolationist. The two goals fit together like a hand in a glove. But I doubt thats the intention 🤷‍♂️
@Jimboken1
@Jimboken1 4 месяца назад
Trump isn't isolationist. Quite the contrary but he isn't a warmonger. And the 'far right' in Europe want dramatically less mass immigration as their number 1 issue which is precisely what 70-80% of the populations want in the constituent countries of the EU. But the mainstream political parties in nearly all constituent countries have mass immigration policies. Funny that.
@lorrimang
@lorrimang 4 месяца назад
MAGA is not isolationist, rather non-interventionist.
@TedSeeber
@TedSeeber 4 месяца назад
@@lorrimang MAGA is isolationist. Done properly it would end foreign trade and solidify the borders until not even a jackelope or a sasquatch could cross from either Canada or Mexico. And once we had no more economic interest in foreign countries, we could recall our carrier groups to protect America only, leave the world police to the United Nations.
@larrypicard8802
@larrypicard8802 4 месяца назад
It's a contest between fascism and intelligent government.
@MrBillBronx
@MrBillBronx 4 месяца назад
EU progressive elitism (authoritarianism) versus national conservatism (culture and classical liberalism).
@Michael-OConnor1960
@Michael-OConnor1960 4 месяца назад
Personally I think the EU union is useless as is NATO
@TedSeeber
@TedSeeber 4 месяца назад
I see no intelligence in pagan progressivism.
@Jimboken1
@Jimboken1 4 месяца назад
Let's be fair on John's double slip of the tongue as even Trump is more catholic than Francis.
@Michael-OConnor1960
@Michael-OConnor1960 4 месяца назад
If your anti Catholic why do you watch - seek the love of Christ and he will set you free
@ginniej48
@ginniej48 4 месяца назад
I would say he may be more, because his wife is Catholic, she may help because of that. He is quoted as being Presbyterian, a protestant
@Jimboken1
@Jimboken1 4 месяца назад
@@Michael-OConnor1960 ????? I'm a Catholic and proud of it. Communion with the bishop of Rome is a requirement even when he's the worst pope in hundreds of years and the most Church-destructive, possibly ever. Donald Trump is not a catholic but has done more for the unborn than Pelosi and Biden who are Francis' puppeteers. Anything for the dollar.
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