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EVE Online: Re-designing the Cormorant Destroyer 

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CCP Acid Burn gives an insight into the process of redesigning ships in EVE Online. In this interview he takes us through the process of choosing the right design for the new Cormorant.
Originally aired on the O7 Show, 22. February 2017
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@MidnightWyvern
@MidnightWyvern 7 лет назад
Just as an additional piece of info, the Description for the Cormorant has always listed its design as provided by an undisclosed 3rd party. While the old design looked like anything else produced by the State, the ship now looks like that 3rd-party was Murya Mordu of Mordu's Legion, which effectively means this redesign strengthens the lore tie-in.
@ZcaptainAdder
@ZcaptainAdder 7 лет назад
now we playing Redesign Online. Why? Old models are best. Where new content? Pve/pvp? redesign all mthr fckrs..
@baconcatbug
@baconcatbug 7 лет назад
Artists don't overlap with programmers
@UKFreedomFighters
@UKFreedomFighters 7 лет назад
I love how this guy went through his thought processes on the Flycatcher! As well as the Cormy in general. This is his first ship redesign? Hats off to you sir! Not only are your desgins beautiful, you actually put decent thought into them! EVE players love that. o7
@Osseron
@Osseron 7 лет назад
Lovely redesign on one of my favorite destroyers! Thanks for sharing the work that went behind this CCP Games; I would love to see more of these in future redesigns!
@RealmRiftGaming
@RealmRiftGaming 3 года назад
Never knew it took that much time milling a design over and over again to get it perfect. Brilliantly done, I'm flying one right now on the sisters of eve epic ark. It's gorgeous.
@PeanutButterFender
@PeanutButterFender 7 лет назад
Always a joy to listen to a master of his craft. o7
@sindrax
@sindrax 7 лет назад
I like it, now how about the Imicus/Helios that has been in dire need of a redesign.
@ryankoh917
@ryankoh917 7 лет назад
sindrax YES. YES. YES: Said every gallente explorer EVER
@waffle911
@waffle911 7 лет назад
Osprey first, please. It's like, what's even going on with that thing, it makes no sense. Surprised the Cormorant is getting one first, it isn't nearly as bad as Osprey or Imicus.
@thebudgieadmiral5140
@thebudgieadmiral5140 7 лет назад
waffle911 Yes please.
@thebudgieadmiral5140
@thebudgieadmiral5140 7 лет назад
waffle911 Yes please.
@BulletMagnetMan
@BulletMagnetMan 7 лет назад
I really like where these ship redesigns are going. Lots of moving parts gives a great 'working ship' feeling. Very good work. FYI CCP - The Proteus nose was still in need of some HD skins when I last looked at mine. It's pretty low-res in some places.
@UltraCow
@UltraCow 7 лет назад
Really awesome to see this! Hope to see more of the game design of Eve Online in the future CCP!
@inconstancyvex3629
@inconstancyvex3629 7 лет назад
Great job. One of the best redesign ever!
@paparagnarok4224
@paparagnarok4224 7 лет назад
YAAASSSS!! I've been wait SO LONG for the Corm to get a facelift (like many others), and this is such a beautiful redesign! Caldari have always looked the best, imo, and these sleek designs only solidify that! Well done, bud!
@maxkaplan
@maxkaplan 7 лет назад
This looks great, nice job!
@TheSharkman64
@TheSharkman64 7 лет назад
how nice work. I don't know anything about design et stuff but I love the process explaination do not hesitate to share more :)
@KaiserFriedlich
@KaiserFriedlich 7 лет назад
Such a great work!
@GeekDadMan
@GeekDadMan 7 лет назад
Great work, CCP Acid Burn! I'm loving the design, and it makes me want to fly the Cormorant again just for the look.
@Skyfox94
@Skyfox94 7 лет назад
You made one of the (imo) best looking small ships look even more badass - thanks dude. Now i gotta skill Caldari.
@Puzzoozoo
@Puzzoozoo 7 лет назад
A talented man in an equally talented team.
@sachadavid
@sachadavid 7 лет назад
this man has the single most awesome job on earth right now, imo.
@PsychoSubSandwich
@PsychoSubSandwich 7 лет назад
I know some people dislike the new Caldari designs, but I'm really a fan. The State has always had some of the most bleeding edge tech in New Eden and its cool that their ships are starting to mirror that.
@MegaPartyVan
@MegaPartyVan 7 лет назад
10/10 CCP Acid Burn. Can't wait for this redesign!
@danielpopescu3716
@danielpopescu3716 7 лет назад
Amazing! Good job man!
@DoktorJeep
@DoktorJeep 7 лет назад
Great work!
@Akselmoi
@Akselmoi 7 лет назад
Looks great! Wouldn't mind seeing Kestrel some re-designing either.
@RoidWalker
@RoidWalker 7 лет назад
Very nice! keep it comming.
@TheBienator
@TheBienator 7 лет назад
looks great!
@McStebb
@McStebb 7 лет назад
You did a great job! But the old cormy design will always be classic to me... I'll miss it
@DarkskiesSiren
@DarkskiesSiren 7 лет назад
Just beautiful
@jimlore78
@jimlore78 7 лет назад
I wish we could see the redesigns of the thrasher, i mean i want to see it in game, but the beauty in the designs that WEREN'T chosen are stunning as well, perhaps a tier 3 destroyer? (tier not tech) having the role of fleet support perhaps, (cap, drone, specific fleet bonuses or even salvage duty destroyers to be fit as a heavy dedicated salvager? but regardless, beautiful job with the cormorant, it NEEDED it
@AssassinSoldier101
@AssassinSoldier101 7 лет назад
so if you could do more segments like this showing the designing process that'd be great :)
@kenteek5010
@kenteek5010 7 лет назад
My advice is to design details that makes sense. For example if you like antennas, put it on an exploration ship, an ECM ship, things that emits rays/radiation. To put it on a cormorant doesn't make sense just because you like them. Skirmish ships should be more sleek than boxy. A rotating satellite dish when scanning is activated makes so much sense.
@AnimeSummit
@AnimeSummit 7 лет назад
as someone who loves the flycatcher, this makes me want to resub...
@TheForceOfBluescreen
@TheForceOfBluescreen 7 лет назад
EvE is free2play atm, if your character is Caldari you can fly a normal t1 Cormorant to look at the style. (as f2p alpha account you can only fly t1 ships up to cruisers from your own faction)
@AnimeSummit
@AnimeSummit 7 лет назад
bluescreen yeah but I don't like the cormorant. I like the flycatcher.
@jibisjib
@jibisjib 7 лет назад
More of these videos CCPlease, It's cool to get an insight into the design process :D If you were to start a mini series of these videos on various elements of behind the scenes design and trouble-shooting and stuff, that would be great :)
@cosmic_cupcake
@cosmic_cupcake 7 лет назад
after the thrasher took so long, I was already figuring that we would see the other old destroyers redesigned as well. awesome job!
@PhoKingHell
@PhoKingHell 7 лет назад
Ayo CCP Acid Burn this is a sick redesign!
@marcuselias4412
@marcuselias4412 7 лет назад
The Corm redesign looks great. My opinion: Put CCP PointyBits in the closet, and take away his god damn tablet. The new Blackbird and Griffin are complete ass. They're literally just a trash heap of polygons with bicycle spokes sticking out everywhere. The new Caracal looks like it was made without any thought. Just made a new model for the sake of making a new model. I like that the new Corm retained its original motif, while making it sleeker and obviously improved. Now just take away those stupid antennae or put them in spots where they make sense instead of at 45 degree angles at random corners. Last note: Glad to see someone is finally keeping variants in mind with the remodels. A huge criticism I've had of every single redesign since the Moa has been that every variant of a new model is completely the same. Zero unique features. Case in Point: Executioner. Crusader and Malediction used to have fins. Ramp it up a little bit, instead of just giving it a minor detail like a ramming guard on the front end. And stay the hell away from my Punisher and Omen.
@ColdCutz
@ColdCutz 7 лет назад
Yeah Crusader and Malediction 'redesigns' really pissed me off. The old models had sleekness and distinct fin layouts that nicely set each apart from the other.
@RanaRandom
@RanaRandom 6 лет назад
I adored the old Caracal model, the new one seems a little bit odd. Feel free to disagree.
@Straswa
@Straswa 4 года назад
Nice redesign, I really liked Eve's destroyers when I played years ago. Maybe its time I returned to Eve Online.
@Durangedkitten
@Durangedkitten 7 лет назад
Why are you remaking the Corm when there are ships like the Helios in the game. Im so confused.
@ColdCutz
@ColdCutz 7 лет назад
Yeah, it's almost infuriating how they're going in the opposite direction and leaving most of the ugliest ships for last...
@seabronc2484
@seabronc2484 3 года назад
New corm hull still holds up. Still looks great
@SirJambo14
@SirJambo14 7 лет назад
Looks great, but thought the angled overlaping fins/flaps looked really good, much more interesting than the flat blocks on the side. Still looks nice though.
@fraznofire2508
@fraznofire2508 7 лет назад
That looks cool
@UberDAHnooB
@UberDAHnooB 7 лет назад
Looks great even though I always liked the original. Reminds me of something that would be in Warhammer 40k. I can't wait to see what you guys do with the Heron!
@jalex4746
@jalex4746 7 лет назад
awsome! basi is next i hope
@Theonlypayne
@Theonlypayne 7 лет назад
Ferox and Myrmidon would be awesome redesigns
@Arjunvandemataram
@Arjunvandemataram 7 лет назад
CCP, You guys are the frikkin best !!!! Keep up the great work and keep designing cool ( Caldari ) ships please :D
@karni60
@karni60 7 лет назад
thanks CCP I cannot wait for my new cormy !!!
@GalileoAV
@GalileoAV 7 лет назад
Oh my goodness that's a sexy ship. Also more like this. I enjoy the development videos.
@vitalik648
@vitalik648 7 лет назад
the red sight light on every time you say "wing"
@hamfisted7863
@hamfisted7863 7 лет назад
Awesome! Now it just needs that 8th hardpoint.
@cafi739
@cafi739 7 лет назад
tbh I don't think the cormorant really needed it but it does look a lot more modern Osprey/basilisk next plz
@Islacrusez
@Islacrusez 7 лет назад
A beautiful design, but it's missing something, it doesn't capture the aesthetic of the original cormorant. The cormorant was, and still is in this day and age, a beautiful ship. It feels traditional, military; always felt like it had the bridge up front and barracks or pods behind it. It was segmented out but still had a sleek shape. This new design, while sleek, doesn't capture those things as well. Put the bridge up front, don't give it a flat beak - the original is chunky, not flat. It's not a speedster frigate, it's a destroyer, a punchy piece of military hardware. It needs less sleek and more oomph. And give it the pods back, make it look like they can be refitted in dock and would house barracks (cormorant) or ewar computing and projection equipment (flycatcher). In short, bring it closer to the original shape, because somewhere along the line it slipped and it doesn't look right. But keep this design for something, because it's not bad in its own right and the design skill behind it is solid. It's just better for a new design than a redesign of the cormorant. She's a beloved ship, do her right.
@SpaceElf
@SpaceElf 7 лет назад
It was supposed to be blocky. It was supposed to look like a soviet apartment building flying through space to harshly contrast with the huge organic curves of gallente ships. It was supposed to depict what Caldari were like, just as gallente, minmatar and amarrian ships depicted what they like. Instead every single faction is getting generic flat panel knife edge remakes like a generic near future military shooter combat knife blown up to 1km long.
@Islacrusez
@Islacrusez 7 лет назад
I think I've figured out the specific aesthetic of the Cormorant that appealed to me... And that was that it looks like a freighter; a cargo ship up-gunned and up-armoured. It could just as easily be a great military shuttle, dropship, troop transport, or any of those heavy lifter type ships. That's what the redesign has missed so hopelessly.
@tryazeve9420
@tryazeve9420 7 лет назад
looks nice! too much of the old cormorant lost imo: I was attached to that hull
@nyleen
@nyleen 7 лет назад
Slicer redesign when? I want some of those sick Executioner animations on a slicer. :D
@theevilways2064
@theevilways2064 6 лет назад
Well, everyone I know likes it. Also, I would like to add that we would like to see more videos like these.
@fraznofire2508
@fraznofire2508 7 лет назад
I think it looks good
@gustlightfall
@gustlightfall 7 лет назад
So can you show us next the artist with the obsession with Phallus shaped ships?
@pingurage2460
@pingurage2460 Год назад
What I always wanted to know, why are critical ship infrastructures always unprotected like engines or weapon platforms? E.g. like at 2:48 The design at 2:15 is much better, there the weapon platforms look much more stable. There is no drag in space, they don't have to be sleek. Caldari ships are actually designed for frontal flight, the thin front silluette to fly directly towards the enemy, which makes no sense in game, but in real life :D What I mean, they can be a bit beefier. I also never understand why antennas for sensors always have to be so fragile :D I mean these are warships. Why do they not have simple armored domes for the sensors & co. Similar to modern radars, even if that is not really armor. Desing 6 at 0:45 is a cool destroyer design by the way, with a bit more armor it could replace the Corax submarine, although that is actually quite nice. By the way, it would also be cool if ships are not simply overwritten. Leave them in & so you have older models over time, this would make special ones stand out & some probably become very rare, collector's items :D older versions could also be optimized & cheaper to produce. So that a noob, rather times the 2-3 generations old cruiser uses, instead of the latest generation, which is super expensive :D Wars would also be funnier, because you can throw more resources into the room. There would certainly be cool fights, from obsolete fleets against high end fleets or so :D Design 4 is by the way good as a Caldari drone ship :D I know the video is now old & has changed a lot. But still ^^
@I2obiNtube
@I2obiNtube 7 лет назад
badass more please more please
@Sniggwaffles
@Sniggwaffles 7 лет назад
Where are the redesigns for different races and for ships people actually use! I would love a new scythe/scimitar or a new aeon model.
@DillaryTrumpton
@DillaryTrumpton 7 лет назад
I'll miss the front end of the current Cormorant. Other than that, looks great. I like the fins on the T2.
@bytesabre
@bytesabre 7 лет назад
Cormorant apparently redesigned by the last of the Brunnen-G
@sarwarn2107
@sarwarn2107 7 лет назад
I hope they put all that textures and details of the illustrated design on the ship because when they create the 3D version, they always reduce the details.
@acyticz8738
@acyticz8738 7 лет назад
I wish Dust 514 was on ps4 I remeber the good old days of Dust 514:PS3.........Good times
@ColdCutz
@ColdCutz 7 лет назад
3:00 Yes. Also can you redo the Executioner hull again, and make the Crusader and Malediction hulls actually distinct like they once were?
@sw-gs
@sw-gs 7 лет назад
So every Cormorant will be change or some that was made before change will stuck into old look. Although they could add this look to "Refit" ship with same stats but different look. I really need get back to game. But new ship looks **** AWSOME. I see that you are defnitly inspired by ships from Star Citizen.
@ccpgames
@ccpgames 7 лет назад
Every Cormorant changes to the new model once the change is deployed. Maintaining two different hulls for the same ship means double the load on QA and general maintenance so it's not a viable approach. Come back...it's free now ;)
@D0pam1n
@D0pam1n 7 лет назад
Doesn't look anything like SC but OK.
@NinjatoBlade
@NinjatoBlade 7 лет назад
sw gs every redesigned ship makes old model go away, it's no like redesigning cars lol. Also, I'm pretty sure he was inspired by the original corm, then the look of the caracal , like he said. It's been in the game for like, 13 years after all.
@sw-gs
@sw-gs 7 лет назад
CCP Games If I play, that would be only on Omega account to support you guys ^^ Edit.: Just bought PLEX and check out changes.
@mizuxdt
@mizuxdt 7 лет назад
Good Job
@DerKopfsammler666
@DerKopfsammler666 7 лет назад
So by "re-design" they mean "complete overhaul"? It just isnt the Cormorant anymore... But i like it, alot really... o.O I like the idea of having the cockpit on the top/middle back of the ship rather than the side now, the old one on the wing just looked awkward and vulnerable.
@theyremykidstoo1642
@theyremykidstoo1642 7 лет назад
Interesting video, thanks CCP! I would like to see more like this, let us players know what's going on in CCP headquarters. I very much like the design, I do agree it looked outdated and was a required improvement, however maybe it's not the most urgent one, Helios/Imicus and all the Gallente industrial ships look terrible, also (unpopular opinion ahead) Omen/Zealot and Maller/Sacrilege/Devoter need a bit of love. o7
@ZeroWalker26
@ZeroWalker26 3 года назад
I rely love the redesign of the cormorant and the Caracal and MOA is a favorite redesign. But there are so many ships still that is in need of redesign will CCP ever get their hands out of the butt and do that ?
@donyo187
@donyo187 7 лет назад
Please CCP make more Artsy videos like this
@stfalx
@stfalx 7 лет назад
when can we expect to see this in game ?
@mechanicalhorserider2512
@mechanicalhorserider2512 7 лет назад
When will the new models go live?
@TheCwpan
@TheCwpan 7 лет назад
did anyone else notice the dramiel back end of the new cormorant
@killrathy
@killrathy 7 лет назад
Man oh man thats a nice drawing pad.
@buk1237
@buk1237 7 лет назад
Did that ship really need redesigning?
@buk1237
@buk1237 7 лет назад
I'm all for textures and animations but it was never really a ship that was offensive to the eye or didn't make sense
@haplopatryn9648
@haplopatryn9648 7 лет назад
It's not about needing redesigning. It's about improving. You can always keep old designs and stuff but do you want the game to go stale and therefore more boring or do you want a stream of improvements that will deliver a better game experience for you and the new player.
@SpaceElf
@SpaceElf 7 лет назад
It was supposed to be blocky. It was supposed to look like a soviet apartment building flying through space to harshly contrast with the huge organic curves of gallente ships. It was supposed to depict what Caldari were like, just as gallente, minmatar and amarrian ships depicted what they like. Instead every single faction is getting generic flat panel knife edge remakes like a generic near future military shooter combat knife blown up to 1km long.
@SpaceElf
@SpaceElf 7 лет назад
Chiriac Puiu >Hur dur if you don't like something you're bitter! Idiots actually believe this! It's almost like you can update a design without throwing away its distinctiveness and purpose, you numbskull.
@SpaceElf
@SpaceElf 7 лет назад
No, they didn't keep the look. THey made a modern military shooter combat knife, where before it was a soviet apartment building. You're tonedeaf.
@luthoriousOG
@luthoriousOG 3 года назад
4yrs later I’m still wondering why they thought they could make caldari look any better.
@alexandertm66
@alexandertm66 7 лет назад
великолепно!
@utweakermolotov142
@utweakermolotov142 7 лет назад
when will you redesign the ishkur?
@Fjsouth
@Fjsouth 7 лет назад
thats nice
@JosephWiess
@JosephWiess 6 лет назад
Nice.....Please redesign the Mining ships so that they don't look like box cars.
@oP34CHx
@oP34CHx 7 лет назад
#BringBackOldScorpion2K17
@PaTrick-pr7sg
@PaTrick-pr7sg 7 лет назад
Whatever happened to the Chimera redesign?
@tw0t0n
@tw0t0n 7 лет назад
Caldari ship encased in armor. LOL! But looks good though
@eBilVastard1
@eBilVastard1 7 лет назад
can a redesign be too good? now i want MORE
@cezary150199
@cezary150199 7 лет назад
Why... You redesigned Zephyr? ;_;. (changed color from white to gold)
@bukueOner
@bukueOner 7 лет назад
Are you guys making Eve 2.0 yet? If so, will it have station walking? Also, please make it an Xbox 360 exclusive. Thanks.
@UKFreedomFighters
@UKFreedomFighters 7 лет назад
I have one very slight concern, while I much prefer the art dirction these days compared to the tradition historic designs, I think CCP should be very careful not to make all races generic and always tick the "ooo pretty" box. While some of the old designs are hideous, I dont want to see everything new look all sleek and samey. It is headed that way just a tad..... Either way overall I am happy.
@magnatasen319
@magnatasen319 7 лет назад
EVED DUST REGRESARA A PS4 O SU NUEVA ENTREGA SERA LA QUE LO REMPLAZARÁ?
@lowsec5780
@lowsec5780 7 лет назад
The Celestis and Arazu look truly awful. They're like some weird throwback to the 1980s. Please please fix. The Scythe is pretty bad too (as someone said below). Any chance that non-Caldari cruisers will get some love soon? awesome work on corm btw.
@NdcintOne
@NdcintOne 7 лет назад
Yeah kiwis leading the way. Nice work o7
@WaveForceful
@WaveForceful 7 лет назад
They should redesign the coercer.
@platypusbillduck9773
@platypusbillduck9773 7 лет назад
Oh look, it's change. Give me a minute to find my torch and pitchfork.
@pscheuerling
@pscheuerling 7 лет назад
cool
@cragzuk
@cragzuk 7 лет назад
Of all the Caldari redesigns i've seen this is the only one that gives Caldari a sleek looking ship. Why did the others like the Kitsune etc just end up like shit looking metal bricks with antennas ?
@SagaraUrz
@SagaraUrz 7 лет назад
T2 ships should have a totally different design, not the same as T1 with a different color.
@russmanYT
@russmanYT 7 лет назад
they shouldn't be "totally different" because they are still based on the t1 hull. they should be different in details though and not just a skin..but it takes these guys decades to fix fugly ships anyway so maybe in 2027?
@edwinchenoweth4251
@edwinchenoweth4251 7 лет назад
Russell Smith I agree, In most cases I don't think they should be totally different. I like how the cerb and Ishtar at first glance look almost identical to their t1 counterparts. Like a Ford Mustang compared to a "t2" Saleen Mustang. However, in this case I'd prefer a more noticeable difference. In the case of dictors and other ships that have a specific unique function, I would like to see a level of visual difference closer to like the Breacher/hound. Completely different function/strengths should = a more pronounced visual difference.
@MartinMeier1234
@MartinMeier1234 7 лет назад
Give us all UI-colors for alphas... plz... :((( After that i play again... ;)
@EximiusDux
@EximiusDux 5 лет назад
I never played with, nor have I ever seen the old design before this video, but I love the Cormorant for the way it looks. The moment I saw it was the moment I wanted it. I would rather fly a small Cormorant than (as an example) a gallante cruiser... Those things are just too ugly (personal preference).
@digibluez
@digibluez 7 лет назад
people still play this? How many are there online now?
@charkvaror2112
@charkvaror2112 7 лет назад
Impressive. I wonder how many workhours this represent though.
@ianosf
@ianosf 4 года назад
Please so moar of this video! I need it, I need it sooo baaaadd.........
@AdrianAyala
@AdrianAyala 7 лет назад
about time they got rid of that stupid fighter wing-thing that was on the port side
@jasongalente5370
@jasongalente5370 7 лет назад
Great, now give the Corax better speed :)
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