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Val-Zod, President Superman, Sunshine Superman?! Who are these black Supermen? Well, I have the complete history for you!
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Tyler Kowalchuk, Fredy Benitez, Bonnie Davies, Jonathan & Megan Pierson, Cody Plourde, David Adler, Milton Appling, Ralph Braganzan, Ethan Dannen, Yoav Haimovitz, Stephen I., LookWhosFhtagn, Casper Qvortrup, Andrew Shaffer, Talentless Hack, Vydal
Edited by Troyoboyo17
0:00 Intro
1:45 Vathlonians
4:15 Sunshine Superman
5:05 Earth-D
7:03 Calvin Ellis
10:31 Val-Zod
Tags: #Superman #ValZod #comics

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Комментарии : 952   
@driveasandwich6734
@driveasandwich6734 3 года назад
The implication that racial troubles being referrenced in Superman's Black Mercy hallucination was a result of Clark's sub-concious incorporating elements of Earth culture into his view of Krypton is really interesting.
@dracosfire7247
@dracosfire7247 3 года назад
That… huh.
@theavastark6463
@theavastark6463 3 года назад
All these black supermen, yet they turn and slap black paint onto clark Kent
@dracosfire7247
@dracosfire7247 3 года назад
@@theavastark6463 and most of them have some variation of Kal-El as their name. His name must be super common on Krypton.
@theavastark6463
@theavastark6463 3 года назад
@@dracosfire7247 idk, general zod, val zod, they sound the same to me, it's almost like alot of people have matching names
@dracosfire7247
@dracosfire7247 3 года назад
@@theavastark6463 Yea, naming conventions exist, but most of the Supermen we've seen are variations of Kal-El. And even if it wasn't common, alternate universes could name their one Kal-El with no issues, that's one of the neat things about multiverse stories.
@AbsolXGuardian
@AbsolXGuardian 3 года назад
I like how Val-Zod isn't just a black superman, but a black Kyrptonian with his own personality and story. He just has the same powers as Superman because all Kyrptons could become Superman on earth
@somerandomidioticnerd9769
@somerandomidioticnerd9769 3 года назад
It's a shame that people that know nothing about comics look at him and just call it pandering
@matti.8465
@matti.8465 3 года назад
@@somerandomidioticnerd9769 He's black and Superman, of course they do that. What do you expect them to do, read the comics?
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 года назад
@@matti.8465 they call it pandering because dc has been consistently saying that this isnt val zod or cal ellis or anything like that but a black clark kent but not henry cavill's clark kent recast to be black
@someone_one_one
@someone_one_one 3 года назад
@@donb7519 that is what im scared of, instead of showing someone we know like cal ellis or val el, someone new shows up and confuses non comic readers
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 года назад
@@someone_one_one thats literally what they said in press releases this isnt someone we know its an alternate universe black clark kent
@edgartinoco9572
@edgartinoco9572 3 года назад
Of course captain carrot is something i’d love to see
@biggimmicke
@biggimmicke 3 года назад
liking to show public support for cappn carrot.
@dusktoad4072
@dusktoad4072 3 года назад
I love captain carrot he’s a super bunny
@henryhill7932
@henryhill7932 3 года назад
Yes please he sounds amazing
@rustybroomhandle
@rustybroomhandle 3 года назад
In fact, a whole Zoo Crew episode would be great. I remember being particularly a fan of Pig Iron when I read those many moons ago.
@TheSirAnthony
@TheSirAnthony 3 года назад
I read a story where Harley Quinn had to fight Captain Carrot so she kept making up powers and scaring him, really funny
@delaneymiller5822
@delaneymiller5822 3 года назад
"Every Black Superman" but no Steel.....He's Superman to me dangit.
@eanrollins3443
@eanrollins3443 3 года назад
But he's not Kryptonian. He's still a badass though
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat 3 года назад
@@eanrollins3443 the rules specified superman, not kryptonian
@eanrollins3443
@eanrollins3443 3 года назад
@@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat I stand corrected
@SeekerLancer
@SeekerLancer 3 года назад
To be fair he doesn't like being called Superman himself. He's the only character from the Reign of Supermen who didn't lay claim to that moniker. He wanted to live up to the title, but not appropriate it.
@rodrigomateodelgadodelacru8154
@rodrigomateodelgadodelacru8154 3 года назад
He is still one of the best supermans
@TubiTuesdays
@TubiTuesdays 3 года назад
All Calvin has to say is "You think all black people look alike?" And people back away.
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259
@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 3 года назад
bruh
@cantthinkofaname5046
@cantthinkofaname5046 3 года назад
Bruh
@LunarJD
@LunarJD 3 года назад
Modern problems require modern solutions
@richjuin9504
@richjuin9504 3 года назад
This is actually genius
@diegodreossi1458
@diegodreossi1458 3 года назад
Its sad is true!
@WickedCool23
@WickedCool23 3 года назад
Re: Calvin Ellis’ secret identity “Oh sure, the President of the United States is really Superman….🙄”
@bubbles784
@bubbles784 3 года назад
"Oh sure, the most powerfully political man is also the literal most powerful man. Sure buddy. Next you'll tell that he has a secret base in the oval office."
@redhood7650
@redhood7650 3 года назад
@@bubbles784 "what next! Batman is Bruce Wayne??"
@CuppaLLX
@CuppaLLX 3 года назад
@@redhood7650 I know right, all these conspiry theories "The president is Superman! Batman is Wayne! Shazam is 5 kids fused together!" what's next "the green lantern is gay," come ooooooon
@kenlieck7756
@kenlieck7756 3 года назад
@@CuppaLLX A President of the US being named Calvin is pretty out there, too!
@omechron
@omechron 3 года назад
@@kenlieck7756 It's pretty far fetched, but it's an idea with some coolidge to it.
@JellyFilledEmpanada
@JellyFilledEmpanada 3 года назад
This is interesting, I'm letting you know in the comments because it really helps!
@deadpoolnerd
@deadpoolnerd 3 года назад
So if Krypton never really had racial issues does that mean on krypton you wouldn't be identified as a black kryptonoan? You're just kryptonian like everyone. I like that notion a planet of just one people. I would like to see more history of krypton showing other families outside the standard Zod or El family.
@kennethrobinson7177
@kennethrobinson7177 3 года назад
See and comments like this is why I still have faith in humanity thank you brother
@stephenhinds3160
@stephenhinds3160 3 года назад
NICE!
@Boyslim826
@Boyslim826 3 года назад
i mean even black americans are just americans. I'd rather see us all as americans instead of this goofy politics shit. white american, black american, asian american, latin american, who gives af. we're all americans 🙄
@officerspider7996
@officerspider7996 3 года назад
Seeing that the only problems the Kryptonians had was that their Planet blew up, color really doesn’t matter when you’re at the peak of life
@latieraeve
@latieraeve 3 года назад
Noticing differences is natural for all living creachers. Its what we do about it that matters. Kripton may have names for those with darker skin and different hair, but it's not a big deal outside of where it matters...like idk hair dressers? Absorbing more sun?
@darryljack6612
@darryljack6612 3 года назад
My favorite is Earth 2 Val Zod. His character works on so many levels, and when I first read it and saw Kneel Before Zod, I nearly died.
@raminard7084
@raminard7084 3 года назад
Me too
@manwithamoustache4803
@manwithamoustache4803 3 года назад
I feel like John Henry/steel doesn’t get much love as he is basically a black Superman stand in. All he gets is a bad Shaq movie
@DJmouchi777
@DJmouchi777 3 года назад
I feel like it's because when he came in during the Reign of the Supermen, he was explicitly not trying to replace Superman like Cyborg Superman, Superboy, and the Eradicator were. He was just trying to honor the legacy of Superman.
@blue6erry268
@blue6erry268 3 года назад
You should watch the CW's Superman and Lois (it is far better than normal CW shit btw lol)
@olivermutalemumba2913
@olivermutalemumba2913 3 года назад
Steel is in Superman and Lois on the CW. Its very good
@jadenbryant9283
@jadenbryant9283 2 года назад
@@blue6erry268 seriously if I did not know it was from the cw I thought it was a show on hbo max
@MyZ001
@MyZ001 2 года назад
@@jadenbryant9283 I think it is an HBO max show. CW just gets to air it, or some shit like thta
@deeksbogard6137
@deeksbogard6137 3 года назад
Are you gonna do a video talking about the latest DC controversy in regards to heroes (Batman in particular) not being allowed to go down on their lovers?
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 3 года назад
Stay tuned and ring that bell. ;)
@AbsolXGuardian
@AbsolXGuardian 3 года назад
He is the comics sexpert
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 года назад
@@ComicDrake Make sure manscape sponsors you
@gvendurst
@gvendurst 3 года назад
Me, having absolutely no context whatsoever: WTF did I just read?!
@bamaboyz8978
@bamaboyz8978 3 года назад
@@comixproviderftw_02, no, Adam & Eve
@PhatGirlLuvr68Comix
@PhatGirlLuvr68Comix 3 года назад
I'm just happy that the Milestone Universe is making a comeback.
@silverion5643
@silverion5643 3 года назад
I love the idea of Kryptonians being of any skin color, just like humans (because on Krypton, they were basically humans), and I do like the ideas of Val Zod and Calvin Elis. I don't like the more recent push for Clark Kent to be made black, or portrayed by actors of color. Instead of changing the race of a character, a new character can be created and given focus to become their own character, similar abilities and backstories are fine, but changing a character's race is hard to do correctly. Another issue is race swapping a character for no reason other than to make that character a different race, just for diversity.
@AegisValentine
@AegisValentine 3 года назад
I personally would love a Val movie over a race swap Clark I really liked Val as Superman & wanna see him in a movie
@dariendarkhouse8538
@dariendarkhouse8538 3 года назад
I lost it when you realized Calvin Ellis was a play on Kal-El... Because I never noticed, hahaha!!!! Also, totally stoked should a Captain Carrot video come.
@keelanbarron928
@keelanbarron928 3 года назад
I'm honestly surprised that people didn't put two and two together. (This video is the first time i heard thst name and my first thought was "ah, i get it. A play on "kal-el".)
@kenlieck7756
@kenlieck7756 3 года назад
@@keelanbarron928 And get this: Rabbits eat Carrots, hence a rabbit character that’s named Captain Carrot! Wild, huh?!? Yeah, I’m being a duck*. Sorry... *(Spelljacker did that, but in context I thought it was pretty funny!)
@princepalus3134
@princepalus3134 3 года назад
GIVE US CAPTAIN CARROT
@dcmarvel6035
@dcmarvel6035 3 года назад
Captain Carrot Will be forever Goated
@deru7720
@deru7720 3 года назад
Captain carrot !
@tyronechillifoot5573
@tyronechillifoot5573 3 года назад
Unironically I'm surprised you never touched on the Stuff with Tyroc and Legion of super heroes
@kingdragoonmk10
@kingdragoonmk10 3 года назад
Makes me even madder now, them wanting to Race Bend Clark kent, when they have the perfect chance to rework theses versions like they did Miles Morales in Into the spiderverse!
@dvader518
@dvader518 3 года назад
Who cares? It’s a completely different version of Clark Kent. It’s not like they’re race bending an already existing version of Clark Kent. No reason to get mad.
@BlackyChan2.0
@BlackyChan2.0 3 года назад
@@dvader518 Not to be a dick, but it actually is a problem. Coming from a black person, companies always talking about how they care about black people then doing the bare minimum to give us something original gets kind of annoying. Mind you, i’m all for different takes on characters, but if you’re catch “This character is now black”, they’re doing it to win points. It also shows you how little they care about these characters if they didn’t decide to use originally black superman mythos characters simply because they didn’t do a little research.
@dvader518
@dvader518 3 года назад
@@BlackyChan2.0 Why do people assign value to race anyways? We are all humans.
@jackdrake1487
@jackdrake1487 3 года назад
@Xbox One I understand your point of view but why dont they just use val zod in the movie? Making a white character black is like saying a black character like val zod isn't worthy of a movie.
@BlackyChan2.0
@BlackyChan2.0 3 года назад
@@dvader518 I feel that way too. Race isn’t everything to me, it’s more so about authenticity. People need to understand that we are different, and there’s nothing wrong with that, but that doesn’t give someone the right to treat each other like shit because of things like race.
@skorpione10
@skorpione10 3 года назад
Jump To: 1st One: 1:45; 2nd One: 4:16; 3rd One: 5:05; Calvin Ellis: 7:03; Val-Zod: 10:31 That's all.
@kingdavid8657
@kingdavid8657 2 года назад
Goated
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 3 года назад
I still don’t understand why we can’t get a icon movie
@kylethefan6062
@kylethefan6062 3 года назад
I know there are so many characters that dc and marvel can use but they just switch the characters and give them the names without earning them.
@usser1138
@usser1138 3 года назад
blue marvel better
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 3 года назад
@@kylethefan6062 sadly that’s highly accurate
@user-oz2pd9ye6z
@user-oz2pd9ye6z 3 года назад
Rights issue mainly, DC can produce the movie but they won't have a say in anything that the creators of Icon do with it
@squelettefaineants4359
@squelettefaineants4359 3 года назад
@@TevyaSmolka I think big studio are scared to take risk which is sad Honestly.
@WarmLillie
@WarmLillie 3 года назад
The multiverses is so huge there sunshine for a ton of different Superman to get some sunlight as well.
@xxdirevice.9832
@xxdirevice.9832 21 день назад
Yea true and idk why ppl complaining so much when it makes more sense for him to be black than white cuz he literally gets power from the sun
@nathancarter8239
@nathancarter8239 3 года назад
It's a shame that this video wasn't conducive to discussing New Super-man, Kenan Kong. His book was *far* more interesting that I thought it would be, touching simultaneously on what and who Superman is, as well as a dose of Taoist Philosophy and politics.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 3 года назад
Don't worry, I'm also a fan of Kong and want to do a video on him in the future.
@theunwantedcritic
@theunwantedcritic 3 года назад
OK I’m an African-American comic book fan for more than 50 years. If they make a movie about Calvin Ellis , or any other black superman that would be cool. I don’t want them to make Clark Kent black. It’s completely unnecessary it really won’t change anything about the problems of writing a Superman story.
@thekingofcookies4877
@thekingofcookies4877 2 года назад
It annoys me that they are once again just relying on the popularity of Clark Kent's Superman for TV and Movies, I've basically had enough of Clark Kent and Bruce Wayne carrying almost everything DC outside of comics, let other characters have a go and even better, let these lesser known characters have the spotlight.
@drewalexander6024
@drewalexander6024 3 года назад
Captain Carrot!!! Hell Yes I want to see more Captain Carrot!!
@greyworld6242
@greyworld6242 3 года назад
All this and yet their just going to literally race swap the OG superman. Hollywood you deserve what comes after this!
@TheStarBot
@TheStarBot 3 года назад
How do you know they are just "gonna just race swap the original Superman?" Wasn't there rumors that it's literally going to be Kal-El?
@vincentfranklin17
@vincentfranklin17 3 года назад
Drake, by all means, do something on Captain Carrot! I love Cap and his team, the Zoo Crew!
@alexgrey7972
@alexgrey7972 Год назад
Calvin Ellis not having a disguise is amazing because if someone questions him he can just go “oh so we just all look the same to you” and walk away 🤣🤣
@EinDose
@EinDose 3 года назад
I can't throw stones at the Clark Kent disguise once someone pointed out that everyone keeps telling Tony Hawk that he looks like Tony Hawk. All Ellis had going on was that people kept jokingly asking him about the fact he looks like Superman.
@ndem658
@ndem658 3 года назад
We need that captain carrot video.. because comics! Thank you for making this video, and it should be a reminder to folks comics are so vast, and so many stories are out there.
@josearistizabal1015
@josearistizabal1015 3 года назад
I don't think anyone is upset about a black Superman, it's just the fact that DC just wants to reboot everything when it doesn't turn out well for them instead of, idk, making decent movies than can even compete with Marvel's?
@darryljack6612
@darryljack6612 3 года назад
Honestly thats what people should really be complaining about.
@blue6erry268
@blue6erry268 3 года назад
Respectfully, I think there are A LOT of people upset about a black Superman
@Tharja-iBW
@Tharja-iBW 3 года назад
@@blue6erry268 respectfully I think that's bull, people are upset they made a legacy character like Superman: Clark Kent, the very first superhero, black after almost 100 years, its a disrespect to the existing black supermen and a disrespect to fans of his character.
@CreativePulse1
@CreativePulse1 3 года назад
Absolutely, totally agree!
@WickedCool23
@WickedCool23 3 года назад
I remember Captain Carrot came out in the early 80s, after the cult success of the Howard the Duck comic, when the Big 2 had an resurgence in their “funny animal” IP’s. Rocket Raccoon and Peter Porker the Amazing Spider-Ham debuted around the same time. All were very fun, lighthearted satirical books meant to appeal to an All Ages crowd
@EscanorDNobunaga
@EscanorDNobunaga 3 года назад
Anytime you can talk about Captain Carrot and the Zoo crew is gonna be a great time! Please give us that video!
@benjaminmuratore9341
@benjaminmuratore9341 3 года назад
Yes please for a Captain Carrot video! I actually think that he's one of the better candidates for being the DC comics equivalent of Spider Ham.
@RariYork
@RariYork 3 года назад
I am hyped to see and hear you talk about that buff bunny. Honestly it would be nice to see another animal superhero video like your Spider Ham one.
@Abominatrix650
@Abominatrix650 2 года назад
"Buff Bunny" almost sounds like a Playboy superhero
@JcgLounge
@JcgLounge 3 года назад
I don’t mind a black Superman. I embrace it. What I don’t like is a race swapped Clark Kent. Which is what the new black Superman movie is gonna do.
@jackdrake1487
@jackdrake1487 3 года назад
Yea. I totally agree. Like they could use val zod. It's like making a green lantern movie and making hal jordan black... like why not use john stuward
@jairusjackson7799
@jairusjackson7799 3 года назад
You are right good sir, they have options that could have made this work, but chose to just be lazy and dip Clark Kent in brown paint.
@redhood7650
@redhood7650 3 года назад
It's JJ Abrams,the guy doesn't understand fan favourite male characters,never forget what he did to Han solo!
@yoder6162
@yoder6162 3 года назад
Or just use Icon and present him better. Static is not the only Milestone representative. He's shown to be just as strong as Superman, if not stronger.
@JcgLounge
@JcgLounge 3 года назад
@@yoder6162 Yeah I actually think JJ Abrams should go with Icon instead of Superman. Use an original black character instead of changing a white one.
@EdEmJuPe
@EdEmJuPe 3 года назад
Val-Zod: The Last Brother from Krypton
@ManiacX1999
@ManiacX1999 3 года назад
*Non comic readers* - BLacK sUpeRmAN? EveRY oNE iS tOO wOKe NOwaDaYs The average comic reader - Oh hey, thats a character who's been around since the fucking 70s!
@justingarrett2239
@justingarrett2239 3 года назад
Factsss
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 года назад
the bigger thing is its black clark kent not black superman
@Liqo315
@Liqo315 3 года назад
Facts bro everyone is to woke now these days and it's getting annoying
@redwayne4282
@redwayne4282 3 года назад
I would love a comic series on sunshine superman with like a scooby doo vibe
@gamesseg
@gamesseg 3 года назад
YES! Do Captain Carrot please !!!! XD
@caliken10
@caliken10 3 года назад
Captain Carrot and his Amazing Zoo Crew is well... AMAZING! I want an animated movie
@MetaSynForYourSoul
@MetaSynForYourSoul 3 года назад
😆 Don't know why I'm laughing so hard at my own incompetence but I felt the need to share so anybody else needing a quick laugh can feel free. I spent the first minute of the video wondering why Drake was talking like he was barred out, like legit everything coming out of his face was incredibly slow. I'm like, "Oh shit! Did the algorithm finally break my boi and he's on some substances?! Wait, RU-vid...this thing has a playback speed doesn't it...yep, there's the problem. Sorry, Drake." Yes, I apologized out loud, to a RU-vid video. 😆
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 3 года назад
I save the substances for off camera. ;)
@MetaSynForYourSoul
@MetaSynForYourSoul 3 года назад
@@ComicDrake Like the true professional! 🤣 Thanks, Drake! Your videos are grand, man. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
@solvemproblerstudios5889
@solvemproblerstudios5889 3 года назад
Most of these guys are so cool, plus Steel too. Wish Calvin or Val Zod were getting the movie.
@nightynight1479
@nightynight1479 3 года назад
Ya know it would be nice to see Val-Zod in the comics again. It could be a nice side story to have going along side Jonathan Kent (Superboy) now taking up the role of Superman while his dad is away.
@andrepartridge1179
@andrepartridge1179 3 года назад
Yes!!! Please do a video all about Captain Carrot & The Zoo Crew!!!
@qpauline100
@qpauline100 3 года назад
I'd like to see a captain carrot video lol
@silvercomics3517
@silvercomics3517 3 года назад
“As white as redoing a bad high five” was amazing
@zeendragon7
@zeendragon7 3 года назад
they need to make a black super man movie.thank u drake 4 doing this video.
@thekingofcookies4877
@thekingofcookies4877 2 года назад
Pretty sure they're doing it but instead of using these characters who deserve to show up on the screen, they're just making Clark Kent black and calling it a day.
@huttmuttbutt
@huttmuttbutt 3 года назад
Hey, can you do a video about "Spider-Man turn off the dark"?
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 3 года назад
It's definitely on my list. :)
@huttmuttbutt
@huttmuttbutt 3 года назад
@@ComicDrake Nice
@nubworthycigars6682
@nubworthycigars6682 3 года назад
Val-Zod is amazing and earth 2 was just a great storyline.. until it wasn’t, but there was a good long time there where it was the best outside main continuity story imo
@StareachValcin
@StareachValcin 3 года назад
Before this video, I had only heard about the black Superman from an alternate universe. After this video, I must admit that president Superman and Val-Zod are interesting characters.
@toonblade4231
@toonblade4231 3 года назад
I'd love to see my man Captain Carrot in the spotlight! Awesome video, as always, Drake!
@luigiboi4244
@luigiboi4244 3 года назад
A video dedicated to Captain Carrot? YES PLS.
@anitanielsen1061
@anitanielsen1061 2 года назад
“This show also features black Kryptonians” AND IT CUT TO AD!
@one_pumpman6064
@one_pumpman6064 3 года назад
''Kryptonian Wakanda'' LMAO WHAT
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 года назад
That sounds awesome
@one_pumpman6064
@one_pumpman6064 3 года назад
@@comixproviderftw_02 it does but it was funny asl
@comixproviderftw_02
@comixproviderftw_02 3 года назад
@@one_pumpman6064 KRYPTON FOREVER!!!!
@samuraiforever9120
@samuraiforever9120 3 года назад
I am glad someone talked about the black superman since when ever I tall about black super men I am met by annoyance since many people consider non stream line dc as weird or dumb. it's good that we get a side canon movie it the black line dc movies such as the Batman, joker, and the new superman reboot.
@mahiyatsafiyullah7103
@mahiyatsafiyullah7103 3 года назад
Krypton the show is awesome and should be renewed.
@TheCreepypro
@TheCreepypro 3 года назад
really cool to hear about these other supermen that no one talks about let alone give enough credit to
@WinglessMoonstone
@WinglessMoonstone 3 года назад
This was a really interesting video, Drake! As always, I learned a little something knew, as you had hoped. :)
@chrispaulson65
@chrispaulson65 3 года назад
I know he’s not technically “Superman” but icon is my favorite black Superman type character. His origin story is so interesting. I wish he got more appearances outside of the comics
@donb7519
@donb7519 3 года назад
sadly all dakotaverse/milestone characters are currently stuck in that legal shit show
@chrispaulson65
@chrispaulson65 3 года назад
@@donb7519 agreed, but I think static is getting a new book or show so hopefully we can get some more of those characters being represented!
@8gatesproductions.760
@8gatesproductions.760 3 года назад
Drake, thank you so much man❤️ your vids are my comfort content
@AmasterWhatifs
@AmasterWhatifs 3 года назад
Let's go I want a hour of just captain carrot.
@DylanScottDavis
@DylanScottDavis 3 года назад
I love Val-Zod, from his character/personality to his costume. When it comes to non-Clark Alternate Universe Supermen Val is probably one of my favorites, Superman from Justice League Gods and Monsters(Apparently it's a version of Lor-Zod), and Kong Kenan. I don't know too much about Calvin Ellis unfortunately, I should change that!
@olgertmagilaj2551
@olgertmagilaj2551 3 года назад
yes please - a cpt. carrot video!!!
@NightwingSkywalker
@NightwingSkywalker 3 года назад
I would love a Captain Carrot (and his Amazing Zoo Crew) video. From the old series to the Oz-Wonderland War to all of his assorted other appearances, it would be great to wander down that *ahem* rabbit hole.
@neoflashjf
@neoflashjf 3 года назад
Black superman is fine, but I'd rather more stories/movies/tv shows about the milestone character Icon! His back story is way more interesting and though not a kryptonian, he is basically a black superman
@kingofthebis1068
@kingofthebis1068 3 года назад
Nice black Superman my favorite hero and my race. Might as well add me to the cast list.
@mattwo7
@mattwo7 3 года назад
Yes I would like to know more about Captain Carrot. I'd also like to know if there's been any references or crossovers between Earth-C/Earth 26 and Marvel's Larval Earth/Earth-25
@dero_oan
@dero_oan 3 года назад
I always thought Earth-2 really was the New 52 JSA. But then Rebirth happened and the Wonders got demoted to alternate Earth Justice League again
@ky-gp4sz
@ky-gp4sz 2 года назад
I don’t know if you’ve done a captain carrot video but as someone that collects the amazing zoo crew comics I would love that video!
@loriswilliams5481
@loriswilliams5481 3 года назад
Captain Carrot is a super bunny 🐰 I love Captain Carrot 🥕
@shealupkes
@shealupkes 3 года назад
Alternate title: I spend 15 minutes explaining why wb has no excuse for casting Michael b Jordan as Clark Kent
@hector3810
@hector3810 3 года назад
Why not? Being black doesn’t change his origin or anything so if they like Michael Jordan for the role who cares
@shealupkes
@shealupkes 3 года назад
@@hector3810 why not cast a white girl to play Sam Wilson or Tchalla? Why not get a man to play Natasha romanoff?
@hector3810
@hector3810 3 года назад
@@shealupkes T’Challa’s character cannot be white as his origin and creation are very explicitly tied to his race. You’d have to bastardize it to make sense of a white T’Challa. Wakanda was not colonized. It’s an all black nation in East Africa untouched by foreigners. You’d have to change Wakanda’s history to makes sense of a white T’Challa. Clark Kent’s origin however does not need to be changed because of a black actor who happens to be playing him. There are black kryptonians as opposed to an all black, African nation of Wakanda. The Kent’s would still take in a black Kal El and his story would still proceed as usual. You can’t have that with a white T’Challa. It would be a totally new character. And in the movies his powers are partly based on lineage. And even outside of comic storyline, Black Panther was black rep. specifically. It’s like characters such as Icon or Static. You can’t change their race either because there’s a very specific story to be told with their characters that focuses on black issues and black representation. You don’t have that with Superman. I mean the guy is an “illegal alien” lol. If they think Michael Jordan will be good for the role, they don’t need to change his origin or character relationships or anything like that. There are obviously certain white characters that wouldn’t make sense to be any race but white (because of their origin, like T’Challa) but there are many that are like Superman. Some of these characters were made during a time it was unlikely black superhero’s (or any minority really) would ever get the spotlight which is why you see black hero’s made to combat that later on but I guess black actors don’t want to be regulated by just those characters. Michael Jordan isn’t a bad looking dude (very obvious) and I’m happy to see how he does with the character. 👍 You could have a black girl play Black Panther since we know Shuri has been black panther in comics and will probably take up the mantle of black panther. And I’m not familiar with Black Widow but I assume some of her storylines wouldn’t make sense if she were a man. I’m not very familiar with Sam Wilson either but from his Wiki page and the TV Show, his origin and eventual title as Captain America (struggle with it) would have to be changed if he were white or it just wouldn’t make sense. +his history as black superhero, being an early one without black in his name and one of the first in mainstream comics (for obvious reasons), again wouldn’t make sense. Characters like Black Panther, Static, Icon, Falcon, and John Stewart are again all classic examples. Integration of black people into comics faced obvious issues and is why (from my knowledge) you don’t have black mainstream superhero’s that were created the same time Superman had been. Superman was partly created white because that was the default. It makes sense for the time and obviously the depiction stayed. No one is arguing that we permanently change the race of Superman in comics because I don’t think anyone cares that much about it, but a black actor playing him shouldn’t be that big of an issue, especially since I have not heard of his origin being changed if he truly will be playing Clark Kent.
@shealupkes
@shealupkes 3 года назад
@@hector3810 making Clark black creates the justification for a resentment Clark simply isn't meant to have, even if his parents are the perfect symbols of morality like they are normally described the same cannot be said about the people of smallville or metropolis and especially not for the rest of the world. Making him black whether we like it or not recontextualizes his upbringing in a way that does not fit the character
@hector3810
@hector3810 3 года назад
@@shealupkes Racism has already been something we’ve seen Superman fight against though. He’s fought racists and xenophobia and seen the worst in people but he still holds the consensus that people are good and to see the best in everybody (in most iterations). Sometimes that xenophobia (don’t know if you’d still call it that in this situation) has been directed at him about how he’s not from Earth. He’s always been an immigrant on Earth who grows up as a farm boy and a Boy Scout. That’ll still happen with Michael Jordan. Even if we assume he saw racism or xenophobia more up close, considering that it’s already been reported that they’re sticking with his classic origin and story. I don’t think we have anything to worry about. This is obviously not the first time a character from DC has been cast as another race and I haven’t really seen this be this type of big issue character wise. I think you give DC too much credit to actually engage in that sort of thing on the big screen. They might for all I know (and I do realize a lot of this would be done for money) but I doubt anything like that would make or break Clark’s core character. I think it would strengthen it even if they decide to go that route. Man is both an undocumented immigrant and black but still believes that people deserve a second chance and that we should always see the best in everybody? Sounds like Clark. He’s not naive but he protects the world because he believes in it regardless.
@omarmansuri7099
@omarmansuri7099 3 года назад
Vak-Zod would make such a cool movie.
@Excellsion
@Excellsion 3 года назад
Yes, Captain Carrot video, please and thank you sir.
@TheeKingRayzor
@TheeKingRayzor 3 года назад
It seems like everytime I've heard there is a black version of something, I always think it's just one.
@DragonXD2
@DragonXD2 3 года назад
Wow they have a lot of choices, can pull a ton of Superman or Superman like heroes that are Black in the comics; And the movie that's coming out straight up Frank Castles Clark Kent. A Chance to revive an interesting character or universe, and they blow it.
@SmokeyOwOs
@SmokeyOwOs Год назад
Val Zod is probably my favorite of the "black" supermen
@Michael-hw5wk
@Michael-hw5wk Месяц назад
Val-Zod has the BEST Superman costume, and I hope to eventually see the character in James Gunn's DC films.
@somethinginteresting8407
@somethinginteresting8407 3 года назад
Your the only one I can believe likes their sponsor
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 3 года назад
Yeah, I only take sponsors that I like.
@somethinginteresting8407
@somethinginteresting8407 3 года назад
@@ComicDrake omg u replied
@TheLoadingCrew
@TheLoadingCrew 3 года назад
"as white as re-doing a bad high five" might be my quote of the week
@grocker27
@grocker27 3 года назад
Val Zod's uniform colors ❤❤❤
@quazirej1998
@quazirej1998 3 года назад
Great video. Really appreciate it. But I noticed that you didn't say anything about Harvey Dent, the Black Superman of Earth 9, formerly Earth 19. Dent hails from the Tangent Universe and seems (at least to me anyway) like what Seigel and Schuster had originally intended for the character of Superman.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 3 года назад
I strictly wanted to focus on black Kryptonians for this video, but that's a great observation and could be the basis of a fun dedicated video going into the pre-DC history of Superman.
@atester1
@atester1 2 года назад
Good call was expecting to see Tangent referenced in the video. Figured I would check the comments before posting. The SuperMan in those books are very different from the Kryptonian history of main DC.
@VacadoRay
@VacadoRay 3 года назад
Technically Steel should count
@mrchavodel8121
@mrchavodel8121 3 года назад
Cool now make vidoe on every white black lighting oh wait How about evey white black panther oh wait How about evey white storm oh wait
@matthewgleason7495
@matthewgleason7495 3 года назад
What's your point?
@mrchavodel8121
@mrchavodel8121 3 года назад
@@matthewgleason7495 double standards buddy
@chidaluokoro9104
@chidaluokoro9104 3 года назад
@@mrchavodel8121 ya true
@beanieboi7743
@beanieboi7743 3 года назад
Well those for characters being black is a part of there character while superman looking white isnt. I honestly dont mind race bending as long as it works but I prefer original characters
@darryljack6612
@darryljack6612 3 года назад
@@beanieboi7743 excatly
@VoskiEdwards8744
@VoskiEdwards8744 7 месяцев назад
Thank you!
@lavalamp2344
@lavalamp2344 3 года назад
Im hoping that the new superman movie is an icon film in superman sheeps clothing. Hes the the idea of a black superman done with creativity and its more than a black version of clark who also deals with race sometimes. I dont mind that but icon is more intresting in my opinion.
@b2crazyeye
@b2crazyeye 3 года назад
Too political, unsubscribing.
@ComicDrake
@ComicDrake 3 года назад
Awesome. Please don't come back. :)
@alexanderroberts9373
@alexanderroberts9373 3 года назад
I keep seeing people say "you should use original black characters" and one of the examples they use is john Stewart. You know, an already existing super hero
@TupocalypseShakur
@TupocalypseShakur 3 года назад
If only John Stewart actually had comics that sold well. Or comics in general.
@fictionarch
@fictionarch 3 года назад
Wish WB weren't such cowards. It sounds like Vals character would make for a good superman movie.
@FrenchieCorndog
@FrenchieCorndog 3 года назад
Captain Carrot vid in the future please!
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
@elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 3 года назад
Thank you homie!
@DeFaulty101
@DeFaulty101 3 года назад
I know it's supposed to be literal super men, but I do know about Steel, who was introduced as one of 4 "Hey look, maybe this is superman?" characters after he kicked off the tradition of characters dying, and coming back to life. Hancock from the movie Hancock was basically "What if superman was black?" and then the Blue Marvel was Marvel's attempt to make a superman character, but edgier because he belongs to a disenfranchised minority group!
@alexquinones232
@alexquinones232 3 года назад
Oh I ABSOLUTELY wanna see a Captain Carrot video
@thelowbudget7364
@thelowbudget7364 3 года назад
If we don’t get a captain carrot vid I’m gonna sue
@gabealexander8878
@gabealexander8878 3 года назад
Love the green screen effect on the leaf pin. Don't know if it was intentional, but it's cool. Also, would love an episode on Captain Carrot and the Zoo Crew.
@xHx23x
@xHx23x 3 года назад
Captain Carrot. Go for it. And Batman's lack of eating cat would also be fun, comic sexpert.
@kenansavage11
@kenansavage11 3 года назад
I ABSOLUTELY need that Captain Carrot video !
@Zeil_tha_dragon
@Zeil_tha_dragon 6 месяцев назад
Gotta see people like icon,and blue marvel someday
@brendancorey7831
@brendancorey7831 5 месяцев назад
I would love to see more earth 2. Hell, I'd love to write for it someday. Its such a good series to me.
@aka.r4z0r
@aka.r4z0r 3 года назад
If you get the hello fresh sponsor again, it will be the PERFECT opportunity to talk about Captain Carrot, while you present a recipe with carrots..
@justiceboy4546
@justiceboy4546 3 года назад
no one thinks a black superman is weird they think a black kal el is weird
@rossman8919
@rossman8919 3 года назад
we need more captain carrot
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