EVERY FRENCH MISSILE In Detail | AA20 Nord to Magic 2 & Super 530D 

Only the french would make a lopsided missile 🫠

6:57 usually the R.511 randomly exploding isn’t actually random. If you look at its FOV, it’s 10° before *and* after launch. Anytime the missile has to lead ahead of the target, it will lead so far ahead that it can’t even see the target anymore. Basically it’s only useful in direct headons or rear aspect. If they’re angled more like like 5° off your nose it’s not even worth it.

the R511 is also found on the Mirage 3C (ik it has better missiles but technically it is also found on that plane)

A30L is best middle range air to air missle in entire game since it always ignores countermeasures

I wish we got really soon (at best next update) the Mirage4000. 10x magics 2 on a plane with twr>1.1 would be amazing. Also magic2 are still far from what they should be. Better irrcm (They use a Co2 detector to differentiate aircraft from flares), 50G, more range etc etc..

I am slightly mad Gaijin called the Nord-Aviation AA/AS 20 the Nord, it's like if I called the FIM 92 "Raytheon" or the R-27 "Vympel" Also fun fact, the ATLIS pod was accidentally made into a A/A pod as they found out during testing it could lock and track Mystere IV's The 530F had a CW seeker at first, but it was dropped due to no tracking as good as the pulse one (hence why the Cyrano III and IV had an optional CW seeker) What i would like to see is the M2K-S3 with the RDM+ radar that got a CW module to use 530Ds. It would be worse than the S5 but could mean a CW seeker at a lower BR

5:49 Friend I play with usually tries to bait people into a frontal attack with him before lobbing a Nord at them. It's surprisingly effective and he has gotten top teir kills with that strategy.

AS-30L's are brilliant in Ground RB for anti-helicopter duties since Heli pilots at that BR are so used to MAWS Flare spam defeating IR missiles that they almost never even try to dodge it.

Omg ur comment at 14:06. “No clue how Gaijin is gonna shoehorn the MiCA in with the aim120a”. You could see the future! Can’t wait to see how badly they cripple that missile to not be VASTLY better than the 120A

14:04 well they did it

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DO NOT sleep on the AA20 Nord. I finally tried it out during my G.91Y stock grind, and it actually came in really handy. Two practical uses for it, as far as I could tell. First, slamming someone in a head-on is very funny. Sadly, doesn't always work, but it worked enough to justify taking them, and got me some very stupid kills while not having to take a full-commit head-on. Second, and also kinda funny, using them from a greater distance to force someone to turn away in a head-on, giving you an opportunity for a gun kill. Less effective in a chase, but can still work.

You should totally make a "real maneuverability" video, doing the test you did with the Magic 2s with every missile in the game.

Came here after Seek's video on evading the more advanced IR AAMs. Man, what a great explanation of how the missiles work, how Gajin modeled them into the game, and the most effective techniques to counter them. That video made it into my 'War Thunder Tutorial' playlist! Well done man, well done!

This is my favorite wt content. Only vids that I watch multiple times and reference for other people who ask questions about all the weird jet stuff

Awesome video Jaek_ i cant wait for the Mica to come too. Its probly gonna be next year tho before we will get them. I love that you added the AS-30L XD. Been using them also in the Jaguar E, but since they have changed the laser lock (the green circle always being outside the aircraft now insted of on the aircraft) i would now only try to use them if the enemy tries to land on their airfield to finish them off.

If the Magic 2 gets multi-plane authority and 50G, I fully expect Stingers and Mistrals to become nothing short of HORRIFYING. Imagine NATO MANPADS as they are now, but capable of pulling around twice as hard. RIP any aircraft within 4km

I'm nearing 500 battles in the vautour (late) and had my great deal of fun with the r.511s. My advice is to take 3 AA.20s and 1 r.511. Looking at the pylons from the front of the aircraft it should be AA.20 R511 AA.20 AA.20 (yes in that order so that the weight of the wing is more distributed if you fire AA.20s first). You will get the most use of the R.511 at around 5-6km mainly going for bombers and afk climbers. (I recommend right after spawning flying straight until you reach 1000kph and then put it to a 15 degree climb until you reach 5-6km height). Also, don't forget to switch your radar to 20km range and narrow the search area to the narrowest one for easy locks. You can't exactly maintain a lock with any terrain interference, so the only kills you're going to be getting is right at the start of the match and on very distracted, stalled out targets. One last thing, when firing at a closing in target from 8km give your missile a little loft so it has that little bit of extra height in case it needs to glide a bit.

absolutely amazing video, I love your use of the mission editor? to show comparisons!

Was waiting for this J’attendais ça

Just a slight adjustment, the R511 is available on both the vautour IIN and the Mirage IIIC

Shit, that's quite good piece of content. Subscribed

My god this video is really well made

Just a great video

amazing intro

Mirage F1 so goated rn. Magic 2 keeps getting better and better. Best tech tree grind I’ve had yet

I subscribed for this video.

my le mirage detectur is off the charts rn!!

On the chaff rejection for the 530F, the last I had heard about it was they closed all tickets on it and said it is working as intended in its current form. That was like two months ago though, so I'm not sure if they changed that again. Though supposedly it has chaff rejection in rear and front aspect now, but I need to test it

Being a fan of Jaek is like being a fan of Jaek before being a fan of Jaek.

11:35 I've also heard that the Super 530F is named that because it was used on the Mirage F1, and that they went to D because well there is no letter in the Mirage 2000's name.

The r511 is also on the mirage 3 C aswell as the vautour.

The ace combat music bringing back memories

Lets go !!

I would like to see a British middle video next.🙂

On the note of ATGMs slamming into enemy planes, there's a Short by NitroxTV of him doing exactly that with Kh-38s on the Su-25SM3. Because yes.

One of the biggest benefits of the 530s is in a headon you WILL lock spool and fire faster than anything else

7:12 a (maybe not so) fun fact about missiling a tu4, because this missile has an 8km launch limit (even though the radar can lock from like 40km)+ the fact that the missile flies so darn slow, if you missile a tu4 in a headon from max range by the time the missile reaches the tu4 you are actually close enough to just have used guns instead 💀

Ace Combat mission breifing music goes HARD.

gaijin adding arhaam in june, mica with 50g, and french is gonna go nuts

Where do you get that custom mission where you can fire off 2 missles at once in the su-57 ,seems fun so I wanna try it

The magic 2s really suffer in head-on engagements, I’ve got maybe a 5% success rate with head-ons, they a very easy flared front aspect, and that 1.8s fuse delay makes them useless being fired anything less than 2km in front. They also really suffer from not have a sustainer motor, as they have very little range, and you’d be lucky to hit someone flying away from you only 1.8km ahead. Side aspect, unless you’re above or they’re flying towards you, 2km is as far as you want to fire from. It’s a huge difference from aim9ms as I’d get killed from 5+ km away with those, but at least they got the arming time nerfed

The french had more bread loaf variants than I thought

It's nice to see someone make fun of the French for a good reason, that isn't just for something being French. Thank you for doing going the extra mile on that😅

@jaek_898 can you do all AA radar missles. You can also include the IR surface-to-air missiles in the video

The way you manage to be extre,ely serious and in-depth while being beyond funny at the same is unfathomable to me. Im not sure if i learnt more or laughed more by watching the video, holy fuck

that intro was fucking gold

France has to be nerfed so people don't complain, that's the saddest statement I came to realise when playing France in WT, quite the underdog and unexpected competition but I still quite enjoy them despite all the bullshit they suffer from. Also, I know the British Jaguar has them too, but those rockets (Forgot the name...) that deploy multiple arrows like APFSDS is very hilarious to kill people in heads-on with.

the nords are LETHAL. love them in the vautor.

Chinese missiles next 🙏 good video as always

511 in on a mirage or two as well, surprisingly 6:15

"French missiles tend to have quirks" so does everything that comes out of France.

the R511 is absolutely hilarious if/when it hits a target.

Thanks for the info. What I got from this is that Pulse sucks and I got no choice currently

jaek

The r511 is also on the mirage 3c

can you do Israeli missiles next wanna know more about their tech tree cause im grinding it out

Can't believe we still don't have the AA.25 Nord yet

Anyone have any idea what has happened to the Magic 1s? I cannot get a kill with them at all now and they used to be great. Just insta flared and even chasing a mig 19 from 2km it still didnt connect.. They just feel useless now

Exocet❤

Me enjoying 4x R3R pulse missile at 8k alt in mig 21smt(10.3) 🗿🍷

+as30l are no longer usable for aa kill coz gaijin said that they turn around

R511 is on the mirage 3c

about the 511 his poor performance is mainly caused by his lead equations being trash and the fact that he flies like a plane so basically he have to roll to pull in the direction he wants

The nord is our lord and saviour

onece i killed a f5c with a as.34 on the marineflieger (the event tornado from 2022)

As a French ground main (listen, I know, I’m sorry.) finally getting to top tier air, I have no idea how to make the 530f’s work. I can never even get a lock. I run magic 2’s and 530e’s always because apparently I don’t know how to radar missile

Where do you find all the missiles specifications?

So... British AAMs next or those not worth the time/effort?

What did the tu-4 do

@jaek_ great video but the aa20 is not unique the brits also have one called firestreak

please do british missiles?

I wish the Super 530 had an IR variant.

I have to agree that the French magics are great and better than any other missiles at 10.3. The matra radar missiles are hard to get used to. The super matra is for example totally unusable against American fighters like f14 and f16 cause their radar is way better and when your missiles gets outplayed by 1 chaff it's kinda useless. The only situation they shine is against russian fighter where you aren't be seen 200km away

Didn't the magic 2 get a 8m proximity and better rate of turn a couple of days ago?

how the fuck do you have the hmd radar on the 2000 5F ? i have tested it and i can't find how to activate it

gotta b honest, my favourite missile in the game is the aa20 nords, quite literally the best weapon against helis, if you learn their speed and how far they actually are from your target, you can quite easily kill anything, they have a 15(?) if not 20meter proxy fuse and if a heli is lacking, you will get your 18k SL every time

XD

God I wish I was in high tier

MAGIC 2's PULL 50's above mach 2 nowwww

Can u pls do this with Swedish missles

My magic 2 don't work lol, they get flared very easily even from behind, hardly get any kills with them.

my biggest grief with the radar missiles france has is that the radars on anything but the f1s and 2000s are so fucking finicky. I climb high and rush to nail any americans that are sleeping but even when i see the damn contrail and im pointing the nose the radar is still blind. Any tips? also i fly a spaded 3c mirage

I knew the magic 2 was really good and not me having massive skill issue

What did Tu4s did in 2016??m

I feel like the Magic2s could get buffed by simply adding a (nonhistorical) double pylon. Like, sure, those double pylons did not exist, but for the love of god, it is not like that would make the Mirage 2k suddenly ultragood. It is a fine plane, don't get me wrong, but in comparison to Mig29 and F-16, it is not exactly that good.

5:06 um sir. toshuku heiki event. ki-48 also has manually guided missiles. debunked

magic 2 is capable for 50G But since gaijin need ton of proof the missile will stay at 35g

Where is Perennial? Is he safe, is he alright?

Didn't the magics just get a buff to 60G? Saw that in one of the last "Its fixed" changelog

So are you telling me that Italians and Germans also used French missiles? The G.91 can carry some French missiles then

Chat is France real?

British missile?

You know, you mention chaff rejection on the 530F and... Couldn't Gaijin just give it a CW seeker and be done with it? Like, for the love of god, the F1C is pretty damn helpless comared to a Mig23MLA or other, more capable planes at 11.3.

Fr*nch They fr made a R-77 (shit one) in 1960s

6:15 FALSE. LIES. IT'S ALSO ON THE MIRAGE 3C FOR SOME REASON! I'M CALLING GAIJIN ON YOU!!

Cringe: IR, SARH, CW Based: ATGM, MCLOS Video over

reject chaff, go back to plen

French such at naming stuff??? Maybe it is because you don't understand what its write. French particularly are better for naming BECAUSE it is most if the time an acronym who need mire brain to find! Ok sometimes its exegerate but far more better than use "tiger" for the 15th time or just like soviet or Chineese with type:>put a number! T for tank or F for falcon.....😂 French planes are a weather/météo effect name. Take MEPHISTO Vab: Module Élévateur Panoramique Hot Sur Tourelle Orientable need far more talent than just name it Warrior or Bradley the name of a général !!! Or magic missiles its Missile Auto-Guidé Interception et Combat. Who is exactly is définition. French is the country of poésy, and famous for be the Nation of Ideas like a well known saying said:" In France we don't have Petrol, but we have ideas"

Why are french planes so bad