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@silva81
@silva81 3 дня назад
The tier list arc 🤫🧏🗿
@Begeru
@Begeru 3 дня назад
Activate the Obelisk felt so broken to me back in the day. I think it was hated so much because players felt punished for reducing their opponent’s health, since that allows them to heal it back and progress the quest.
@ShuckleShellAnemia
@ShuckleShellAnemia 3 дня назад
Is that why MarkMcKz calls it toxic quest
@Gematria009
@Gematria009 2 дня назад
​@ShuckleShellAnemia most likely yes
@lelandrozier7012
@lelandrozier7012 2 дня назад
I remember seeing it a lot in rez priest too. Still gives me the ick when I see it.
@Bob_Bobinson
@Bob_Bobinson 3 дня назад
not putting the demon seed and defend the dwavern district into yuck is a cardinal sin
@masonberg4188
@masonberg4188 3 дня назад
quests are my favorite cards in the whole game !
@noanimationexpert3843
@noanimationexpert3843 3 дня назад
I’m sure we’ll get a neutral quest/quest line so every class can either pretend it’s 2015 or it can speed up the game. Unsure which but there will be complaints either way
@shlad1470
@shlad1470 3 дня назад
The Reno Seed
@emilydopicadinho7803
@emilydopicadinho7803 3 дня назад
Open the Sunwell
@ShuckleShellAnemia
@ShuckleShellAnemia 3 дня назад
The Caverns of Sapience
@emilydopicadinho7803
@emilydopicadinho7803 3 дня назад
I have a fun story, one of my favorite cards was King Phaoris, because I always liked to play with cool bad cards, and the funniest thing was that I was playing with shaman with a lot of trash cards in it, I don't remember what reduced the cost of my minions but I played OMEGA MIND and King Phaoris agains't a full board and pulled a Il'gynoth with an Elemental Destruction in hand, was the most unnespected, satisfying and Omega mind otk ever, so to this day that card still goated for me.
@DJarr216
@DJarr216 3 дня назад
Your outro is how i feel about twist currently. There's like a handfull of decks with near infinite resource generation and mana cheat and the rest play like they're stuck in 2018
@GamePlayMetal
@GamePlayMetal 23 часа назад
Why did Blizzard think it was a good idea to bring a better version of Even Shaman to this format is completely beyond me
@NandkumarKhobare
@NandkumarKhobare 3 дня назад
OMG thank you for these rankings, keep 'em coming!
@angelalawter2663
@angelalawter2663 3 дня назад
This list was GOATed. Huge nostalgia vibes when you talked about some of the old quests. Mt big wish is that someday making mummies can be good. That's all I want. I wish I was better at homebrewing because I would make a deck for it even if it was bad.
@oliverklozov
@oliverklozov 2 дня назад
These videos have been amazing, and doing them prerelease is giving me hopium for all the quests I've kept.
@albinscott
@albinscott 2 дня назад
This video was quite a journey... Thank you, Marshie!
@ph1lny3
@ph1lny3 3 дня назад
Some thoughts on these: I think my favorite version of Seek Guidance is the "oops all minions" version. Was a fun deckbuilding challenge, and using Abbess made getting your wincon off much more trivial than the conventional list (at the cost of binking yourself hard by not running any spells). I liked that QL Shaman had two approaches: heavy burn, or plop big stats with spores/echoes. My favorite part of Bazaar was the weird interactions like Secret Passage to only require one burgle spell to complete, plus I liked having (at least conceptually) consistent face dmg that trades the infinite dream of Spectral Cutlass for being easier to highroll and fight aggro boards and being much less susceptible to weapon hate. Huge rant because Caverns Rogue was the reason I got into Wild: I think Caverns Rogue now is pretty easy to pilot, but back then you had some unusual lines and routes back when it was in rotation. I remember in high elo discussion there was consideration of mulliganing quest and coining Brewmaster as ways to survive early game against aggro. I actually tried mulliganing quest when playing Getmeowth during barrens meta and beating his Odd DH, though it helped that I got secret passage to find it pretty soon after. The archetype was my first legend in Wild too, I did a little mix of stuff I picked up from Chinese offmeta players and some of my own ideas. Back then, Caverns was really bad, requiring you to play 5 of the same minion, getting 4/4s, and Sonya recently got gutted so she was bad post-quest. I found pen flinger helped get quest done consistently at a time when you needed three bounces for flysail. It goes without saying, but with how tedious quest completion was you rarely had enough bounces left (unless you ran bad cards like ferryman) for charge to lethal opponents, so I opted for a secret package with Hanar. Post-quest, Hanar made scary boards with summon secrets, and cheat death was a scuffed shadowstep. The other thing I ran was recurring villain+Umbra as pseudocharge. I was so excited when it got reverted and getting octobot+field contact. It actually became kind of skill-intensive again. Oh, and it was actually really good v aggro because of flinger and t5 0 mana sky pirates + broom thanks to octobot.
@ShuckleShellAnemia
@ShuckleShellAnemia 3 дня назад
Your philosophy is interesting. You want the requirement to have synergy with the reward. I always felt that it was way more interesting to make the reward strong enough to warrant building your deck around 2 different synergies.
@MartianBuu
@MartianBuu 2 дня назад
Thats how it works with waygate, the reward is busted but also flexible, you can do a lot of stuff with it. Lets you build to activate it but also leaves room for a way to make use of the reward. Rise’s rewards are inflexible, strong but you must build for recruits. To make the reward worth it your deck has to be recruit focused, but to activate it your deck needs to be mostly 1-costs. Each side is too demanding, they need to have more synergy.
@ShuckleShellAnemia
@ShuckleShellAnemia 2 дня назад
@@MartianBuu yes, I know the strongest quests work that way, I just mean as far as how cool or interesting a card is, it’s better to make it choose how much you want to devote to completing the quest vs how much you want to take advantage of the quest’s reward.
@athenaadams8341
@athenaadams8341 День назад
Demon Seed and Waygate and Crystal Caverns are so "love me or hate me, you watched"
@ShuckleShellAnemia
@ShuckleShellAnemia 3 дня назад
Command the elements goes into Yuk tier for being oppressive and boring in Duels: The hero power was passive: you cannot overload. So the deck was just point cards at your opponent’s face until they explode, and you didn’t even interact with overload as a mechanic, which imo the unlocking the mana crystals on the first reward was the most interesting effect of the deck in constructed.
@lucaslorencini3453
@lucaslorencini3453 3 дня назад
To complete the tier list arc, we need a tier list tier list, so you can rank the ones you had the most fun doing
@haroldlabarre9990
@haroldlabarre9990 3 дня назад
The queen marsh is underated, the card got a huge buff, and its kind of an aggro deck with late game potential with raptors and you can make them charge with the 5 mana rhino for a potential burst. It got some good tools over the time but people didnt noticed mutch
@kbreviews7785
@kbreviews7785 3 дня назад
In wild history, my favorite deck used to be odd taunt warrior with dr. Boom hero card and fire plumes heart, what a time
@CountFab
@CountFab 3 дня назад
I think that The Demon Seed is actually a super interesting card, that I would love to just be jank. Unfortunately, Crystalliser lets you complete the quest with no downside, and Giants (or the 0 mana 4/4 from Titans) let you fight for board, so with a good highroll you even beat aggro.
@lighterraptor7607
@lighterraptor7607 3 дня назад
Tier list time! More pls :D
@badwalter_
@badwalter_ 3 дня назад
i wish they made more of these, as someone who only plays standard currently i feel like i missed out
@tayxsl
@tayxsl 3 дня назад
Man, questline mage in standard was definitely the most amount of times I just conceded
@trixmtll1393
@trixmtll1393 3 дня назад
The goated quest for me was raid the sky temple for mage. It was the first and only quest I opened and owned for a long time lol. I always enjoyed value and random decks.
@lavlavnder
@lavlavnder 2 дня назад
not you cheekily putting the last kaliodsaur in the yuck section before replacing it with the right quest
@sathrielsatanson666
@sathrielsatanson666 3 дня назад
I agree with Kibler, all the quests are Yuck design-wise
@milessiegfield5323
@milessiegfield5323 3 дня назад
I remember really getting into HS during the Corrupt the Waters reign. I had been playing a lot of solo content up to that point like Dungeon Runs and the whole League of Evil arc really cemented my love for the game. Fun times... I also spent a lot of time trying to really bump up Awaken the Obelisk and Making Mummies but those did not pan out so great. Someday (tm)
@ZAYKONN
@ZAYKONN 3 дня назад
A weird memory I have with Unite the Murlocs was of when it came in a Tavern Brawl specifically for it, I had came back to HS after a break so that expansion was still fresh. I swear, I looked at Megafin and said "This is just Neptulon", because I remember back then that Neptulon used to fill your hand with murlocs, but apparently one day he got nerfed to just 3 or 4 murlocs and then they gave that effect to Megafin. It's kinda fucked up seeing a nice card get changed just so that they reprint a new card with the same effect a couple months later.
@MartianBuu
@MartianBuu 3 дня назад
Nep was always 4, its never been nerfed. That was just a lot of refill when he came out.
@cuecrunch
@cuecrunch 2 дня назад
7:40 pretty sure vampiric blood was in March of the Lich king which came before nathria
@essurio
@essurio 3 дня назад
For next april first I want a tier list of all daily, weekly, and event quests.
@fam3871
@fam3871 3 дня назад
ngl it wouldve been cool if you added the related cards to the screen like nether portal
@Nexusv3
@Nexusv3 3 дня назад
As a bad player who could only get to legend in the trivial system using questline pirate warrior, I feel attacked.
@MartianBuu
@MartianBuu 3 дня назад
Im sorry 😭 The fine print of that statement is first Legend is still hard and getting to Legend with any specific deck doesnt take away from the achievement. Even playing a comparatively easy deck is still playing a turn based strategy game that can be done well or poorly, so good job! The way the star multipliers work for returning to Legend is the part that ruins this system for me.
@peshomighty5051
@peshomighty5051 3 дня назад
Makking mummies is like soo easy to do and your reward is a heropower that makes a 2/2 minion. To easy. So yeah. About galvadon and librams it should be in standard(the core set) Yeah give paladin hey no matter what expansion you can still play 5mana dinosaur battlercry get removed by your opponent. Like atleast give it elusive. Darn.
@juridicopable
@juridicopable 3 дня назад
34:59 i remember really enjoying the corrupt combo deck from Darkmoon Faire in Standard, but it WAS pretty bad (my deckbuilding didn't help either)..
@narkle9723
@narkle9723 3 дня назад
Once you're done with all your tierlists. Make tierlist of all the tierlist videos
@essurio
@essurio 3 дня назад
Lakkari Sacrifice needs to play itself when discarded, and would have been so much better back in the day, when that effect didn't just kill the enemy.
@eamonmulholland3159
@eamonmulholland3159 19 часов назад
You come back here and put my sweet baby Supreme Archaeology in GOATED right this instant Mr. Martian!!! Just kidding, glad it ranked so highly. I missed quests entirely, but as I've slowly been crafting wild stuff I'm interested in, I'm trying to play every Rafaam card in one way shape or form, and this quest was the first quest I crafted.
@AlfiansyahHendry
@AlfiansyahHendry 3 дня назад
Rise to the occasion is also ruined by cariel's hero card because it replace your hero power in standard
@bingus2464
@bingus2464 3 дня назад
Standard open the waygate was fantastic, honestly goated, too bad its broken outside of that limited card pool.
@bingus2464
@bingus2464 3 дня назад
Especially the eye for an eye tech people would do to counter the ice block and the counter tech with a one off voodoo doctor
@musiccommands8615
@musiccommands8615 3 дня назад
So based. Can't wait to Martian to blow up so we can get a Tier list of Martian Tierlists
@dannylight7022
@dannylight7022 3 дня назад
Raid the docks is yuck and demon seed pretty cool? Yeah, pretty cool reason for me to not touch wild till blizzard nerf that deck but for now they only buff it :)
@nesdenon4612
@nesdenon4612 2 дня назад
Marty you should make a tier list for every card that chat tells you you should run more than you should actually 😂 gotta see your opinions on sticky fingers
@Gematria009
@Gematria009 2 дня назад
Another riveting tier list of Chumbostone
@LukaLukonators
@LukaLukonators 3 дня назад
nooo my corrupt the waterinioo....
@vitordarksider
@vitordarksider 3 дня назад
I also hate The Demon Seed for what it did to Darkglare, but not only that, ever since then the majority of GOOD Warlock decks in both formats all have to do with self damage (discard being the only big exception). It cemented Warlock as a combo class, making both aggro and control strategies unplayable in comparison.
@Discerned_
@Discerned_ 3 дня назад
My favorite card is brazen zealot. Is it goated, very cool, pretty cool, mid or yuck?
@MartianBuu
@MartianBuu 3 дня назад
Goated
@Discerned_
@Discerned_ 3 дня назад
@@MartianBuu 🥲 thank you.
@sathrielsatanson666
@sathrielsatanson666 3 дня назад
Well, comparing Queen Marsh and Paladin Questline... Paladin QL wins because the reward is stronger and that's why it was run in an actual competitive deck.
@gldenkappa5359
@gldenkappa5359 3 дня назад
i have only one question: why “mid” isn’t in the middle of tier list?
@MartianBuu
@MartianBuu 3 дня назад
Its in the middle of things I have a positive opinion of and a negative opinion of.
@Jmt1000XD
@Jmt1000XD 2 дня назад
I'd like to ask a question, I hope you can answer MartianB. I notice that when people who play a lot of wild, Roffle, you and Zeddy and they talk about the quality of a card or cards, you usually talk about it in such a way where it's quality is always based on it's efficiency rather than the effect itself. Case in point, you talked about Corrupt the Waters being bad, NOT because of the effect of the card itself, but because of relative power. So, a card is impacted by how effective other cards are in its most efficient deck. Is that the best metric to judge a card on? Is a card's quality only based on win rate? Or can the card be judged better by synergy, isolation, or ease of play? I get that all of this is a metric of quality, but when I hear you say "Corrupt the water is bad because it wasn't the best version of a deck" I wonder. My thought is if you are planning to make a deck with good cards and they are all battlecrys and they are all high quality cards with decent synergy, and you can naturally complete the quest, would it not be at least decent to good card?
@MartianBuu
@MartianBuu 2 дня назад
Well I mostly talked about that quest that way, most of the rest of it was me talking about how fun I thought a thing was. I made a big deal out of how Corrupt the Waters is bad because I get barraged with people telling me its a mistake not to play it. I think it fan be really fun and Ive put it in lots of stuff for that reason. Shudderwock builds of the last couple years can naturally complete the quest, its true. However, it does not fulfill a role that increases the winrate of the deck. For general doubling purposes, Bolner is much better in a lot of ways. When it comes to guaranteeing Shudderwock bounces you have to also include Tour Guide, which is largely useless outside of that situation. You also dont need to go infinite with Shudder the fast majority of the time. Then theres just doubling battlecries regularly. Dirty rat is a good example of when this can be helpful, but again you have Bolner already. A Loatheb on 7 blocks most of what your opponent can do already, doubling it doesnt accomplish much. When I say a card is bad I dont really just mean the power level is low, I also mean synergies this might have with a deck are not worth its inclusion. This is especially important when it comes to a quest, because they always start in your opening hand. If a quest doesnt have a meaningful impact on a decks success, its like having -1 card in hand every game. CtW is only helpful in niche situations, and because its superficial synergies seem so intuitive its one of the biggest bait cards of all time imo.
@Jmt1000XD
@Jmt1000XD День назад
@@MartianBuu Hmm, I can see that. And I think it's a fair point. It just always takes me out when something is considered bad because it's in a bubble, not because it's an objectively bad thing. I recall that a LOT of cards are good in Hearthstone especially compared to how good cards used to be, but not all of them are viable for play because there are just stronger cards. At the very least, it's good to have a context. Not asking you to change your entire rating system, but it would be good to say something like "This card has a good effect, but it's the biggest Shudderwock bait that shouldn't be considered, etc." Have a fantastic day Martian!
@MartianBuu
@MartianBuu День назад
I think efficiency and how good a card is compared to other cards is 100% of what makes it good or bad. War Golem could be a broken card if you eliminated enough of the other cards in the game, context is everything.
@KrivitskyM
@KrivitskyM 3 дня назад
Sorcerer's Gambit had an awful playstyle. Everything in the deck was either removal, freeze or draw. Everything that the opponent played would be used by Mage to progress the quest. Therefore, most matches against Sorcerer's Gambit were artificially prolonged, because the best way to play against that bs was just not to play any minions, so they can't point at them or freeze them. It felt miserable. I hate that card with passion. During Stormwind I unironically included Robes of Protection into all of my decks just so Questline Mage (and Questline Hunter) could fuck themselves.
@NeoTiamat
@NeoTiamat 3 дня назад
Man, Raid the Sky Temple would be so much better if it discovered. It may be my favorite quest...but it really is so darn bad.
@SeanH80
@SeanH80 3 дня назад
Ultimate Quest: Get Marshie to enjoy Wild again Sadge I feel really bad for enjoying HS when Marshie isn’t, even though that is such a non-Marshie-approved sentiment
@MartianBuu
@MartianBuu 3 дня назад
Watchoo playin right now 👀
@SeanH80
@SeanH80 3 дня назад
A little of everything! Some Reno, some tempo, some combo, feel like the mode is OK. But I haven’t been playing it constantly for years shrug
@Banelock
@Banelock 3 дня назад
Open the Waygate in goated is a crime. Probably bottom 2 in regards to how fun it is to play against along with the rogue Ungoro one but at least that one was bad so wasn't played as often. Not being able to play around the random generation , reward being a spell so you cant dirty rat it , the deck completely revolving around this pretty early noninteractive OTK , and to top it all off the recent versions (which were nerfed thankfully) completely stopped even pretending that hs is a 2 player game and started skipping all the opponents turns with the infinite turn combos. If you ask me its yuckier than all the things you put in yuck.
@thecheezeiestofmen2355
@thecheezeiestofmen2355 2 дня назад
Yet another marshterpiece
@R2C2_
@R2C2_ 3 дня назад
Just a friendly reminder that Paladin, despite all its sins, is the only class who hasn’t had a quest be at least tier 2. Just putting that out there.
@guapopescado88
@guapopescado88 3 дня назад
Wonderful list martian. On another note man its so sad the state the QL warlock is in. For all the good it provides the meta it should be buffed to be a tier 1 deck again. The meta is in the best state when all of the control decks are being suppressed for the health of the game. Less dissruption more inevitablity. That is a good meta.
@MartianBuu
@MartianBuu 3 дня назад
Real and true
@dannylight7022
@dannylight7022 3 дня назад
this must be an ironic comment, thats the most untrue statement about hs ever... Game is not fun when you know you going to lose no matter what you do... Playing control decks feels like that when you face Demon seed warlock... Its just bias on your part, warlock is broken and somehow you are not happy.... game will be even worse if they will balance the game towards people like you. Control players will stop running dissruption cards if combo players will stop playing free win decks that win no matter what you do....
@mattsonepiece-
@mattsonepiece- 2 дня назад
“Good meta is when control bad.” What a boring statement. All three should be in a healthy balance, theres been an influx of disruption cards because there’s so many must-be-stopped cards in combo decks and the like. A healthy meta is not one where you don’t have to play around disruption and can reliably get your combo off without any sort of negation or disruption effect, just about every single card game has these mechanics and hs shouldnt be exempt from them.
@mattsonepiece-
@mattsonepiece- 2 дня назад
@@MartianBuuMarshy nooooo! Please tell me you were saying real and true to only the first half of their comment; I thought you hated people saying boring blanket statements like “aggro should be bad” or “this deck shouldnt exist” blah blah blah.
@Bob_Bobinson
@Bob_Bobinson 2 дня назад
@@guapopescado88 people are falling for this bait lmao
@clovergannon
@clovergannon 3 дня назад
Could make an argument for all of them being in yuck for turning every game of Hearthstone into involuntary games of solitaire when they get played against you.
@goliath5122
@goliath5122 3 дня назад
Worst tierlist
@MartianBuu
@MartianBuu 3 дня назад
D:
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