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Every MVP Winner On A Team Lower Than The 2nd Seed 

Andy Hoops
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Only 10 times in NBA history has the MVP been won by a player on a team lower than the 2nd seed in their conference. In this video, we take a look at all those occurrences and why it happened. Enjoy!
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@SuperNASCARrocks
@SuperNASCARrocks Год назад
Jordan in ‘88 was impressive. Dude averaged 35 PPG while also winning DPOY. Doing both in the same season was crazy.
@jerodtabb311
@jerodtabb311 Год назад
Crazy 💯💪
@tj5180
@tj5180 Год назад
Also carrying a horrible bulls team with pippen as their 8th man in the regular season to the playoffs. Dominated the cavs in the 1st round and faced the pistons
@traslenpatterson3478
@traslenpatterson3478 Год назад
Impressive???? That's a UNDERSTATEMENT!!....let me give you a lil insight what Jordan's 88' season was like..... ALL NBA 1ST TEAM ALL DEFENSIVE 1ST TEAM ALL-STAR ALL-STAR MVP LEAGUE MVP LEAGUE LEADER IN STEALS ( 259 ) 131 BLOCKS D.P.O Y SCORING CHAMPION ( 35 PPG ) 53.5% FROM THE FIELD SLAM DUNK CHAMPION This 👆 is the kind of seasons Jordan was having before Pippen was drafted and matured as a player. This guy said the same thing I've been saying for DECADE'S...." it was Jordan's 88' season that started the whispers of Jordan being the greatest player ever "
@aztn19
@aztn19 Год назад
‘88 Jordan was sooo good, the two best players in the world were in awe of him despite being on better teams, and one team had to become straight up villains of the NBA just to stand a chance against him (okay, Dumars then & now is a pretty good guy-he’s more ‘villainous’ by proxy. Edit: John Salley is in the same camp as Joe)!! 🐐level 🫡
@dtowndtown9232
@dtowndtown9232 Год назад
35ppg with 3.2 steals and 1.6 blocks is crazy, Jordan’s 2 way presence was unmatched
@Maxjuliann
@Maxjuliann Год назад
Nah jordan averaging 35 points and winning defensive player of the year in the same Szn is insane
@OkagaCalifornia
@OkagaCalifornia Год назад
Wasn't he playing vs mailmen?
@Theterminato2013
@Theterminato2013 Год назад
@@OkagaCalifornia Yeah like playing against twitch streamers and load managers is SO much better. 😂🤣
@traslenpatterson3478
@traslenpatterson3478 Год назад
It's BEYOND insane when you take in what he did that 88' season.... ALL NBA 1ST TEAM ALL DEFENSIVE 1ST TEAM ALL-STAR ALL-STAR MVP LEAGUE MVP LEAGUE LEADER IN STEALS ( 259 ) 131 BLOCKS D.P.O.Y SCORING CHAMPION ( 35 PPG ) 53.5% FROM THE FIELD SLAM DUNK CHAMPION The whispers started about Jordan being the goat...
@paul9299
@paul9299 9 месяцев назад
The fact that you couldn't spell out season and chose to abbreviate it to szn yet couldn't figure out DPOY instead of spelling that out says everything I need to know about your general intelligence and NBA acumen 🤣
@Axx_axx
@Axx_axx Год назад
In 2022 Jokic was the first to have at least 2,000 points, 1,000 rebounds and 500 assists in a single season. This also impacted the decision.
@darshin95
@darshin95 Год назад
Kareem winning in 1976 while missing the playoffs with a losing record is INSANE
@wasthataspongebobreference533
Another crazy stat is that every player to have won an MVP has made it to the Hall of Fame. Of the active players, the only one who’s looking like he might not make it is D-Rose
@Augustp08
@Augustp08 Год назад
I still think D rose can pull it off
@NotMeNaNaNa
@NotMeNaNaNa Год назад
@@Augustp08 doubt it. He’d have to be a Detlef Schrempf or Jamal Crawford level 6th man and he’s nowhere close to that. He might make it since it’s the basketball HOF and his 1 season at Memphis where he led them to an NCAA record 38 wins(despite losing to Kansas in the final) might be the kicker.
@Augustp08
@Augustp08 Год назад
@@NotMeNaNaNa there’s a lot of good examples of players that were plagued by injuries after a few seasons of their prime. His prime was way shorter than other players in that category, but the mvp gives him a decent case
@Wheatsolo
@Wheatsolo Год назад
​@@Augustp08 yeah maybe his renaissance isn't as good as grant hill but he's an example of a guy plagued by injuries who transformed his career. Vince Carter. Even c-webb became an entirely different player after he blew his knee out
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Год назад
Derrick Rose may not, but even if he doesn’t make it, he’ll probably be referred to as someone who might have become a consensus Hall of Famer without injuries.
@ja4309
@ja4309 Год назад
Meanwhile MyPlayer in 2k16 (MyCareer): Became MVP as a rookie while in a 7th seeded team (Don't worry, per Hall of Fame difficulty rules, said MyPlayer got swept by the Cavs 😂)
@alwayyssgone
@alwayyssgone Год назад
My player wasn’t mvp as a rookie but he was fmvp first year
@blowc1612
@blowc1612 Год назад
2k14, my player broke every record.
@blowc1612
@blowc1612 Год назад
Demolished Wilts 100pt game, 120-20assists TRIPPLE double and hit 30 3s in one game. As a rookie 😂
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Год назад
Jordan in 88 is easily the most impressive one on this list. Can you imagine a guy averaging 35 a game carrying his team not only on offense but defensively as well in today's league?
@wuwilliam2464
@wuwilliam2464 Год назад
giannis
@tj5180
@tj5180 Год назад
@@wuwilliam2464 giannis didnt carry the bucks
@pashabicepx4445
@pashabicepx4445 Год назад
Embiid
@crazyboydakota
@crazyboydakota Год назад
Offense is encouraged more in today's game with the rules too!
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Год назад
Neither of those guys are carrying their teams as hard as Jordan did their #2 and #3 options are quite better than Charles Oakley, you could argue their #4 as well.
@heritagefamilydental
@heritagefamilydental Год назад
planning, research narration are all top notch by andy as always. premium content indeed. indeed.
@kenrickeason
@kenrickeason Год назад
You can tell Andy loves what he does.. You can feel it when he does these videos.. Dude loves the sport of basketball and you can tell it and feel it.. 👍🏿❤️ Go Andy Go!
@alexmartin628
@alexmartin628 10 месяцев назад
I feel like we're watching prime Andy Hoops right now.
@dylanatkins4968
@dylanatkins4968 Год назад
Jokic should’ve been featured twice. The nuggets were 3rd in the west in 2021
@jamesv3309
@jamesv3309 Год назад
Been watching you for years. Your channel is the reason I still follow up with basketball. Thank you, Andy.
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465
@Uzair_Of_Babylon465 Год назад
Fantastic video keep it up you're doing amazing things 😁👍
@danielvasquez3758
@danielvasquez3758 Год назад
Great video Andy!! Thanks!
@DeadPlayin
@DeadPlayin Год назад
you’re the only channel where i watch every video that comes out. your format is addictive tbh, lmao. i think joel deserves this mvp cause of his late season push and because he outplayed jokic when they played each other.
@JLou1
@JLou1 Год назад
I love your background music you have in every video
@Berto717_
@Berto717_ Год назад
You know it’s a good day when Andy posts
@hoopingwithhamez
@hoopingwithhamez Год назад
Embiid is probably gonna be the first player ever to win the MVP coz people feel bad for him not winning it yet💀 Giannis is the MVP in my opinion, hes just been THAT good for so long that people just dont appreciate him as much anymore. He'll put up 25,15, and 5 and people will say that's a bad game..
@MarcoRoberto1
@MarcoRoberto1 Год назад
Nah. Joel is WAY better than Giannis.
@hoopingwithhamez
@hoopingwithhamez Год назад
@@MarcoRoberto1 You should say WHY u think that instead of just stating it bro, I'm curious. Joel may be more skilled offensively, but Giannis is the way better player overall. He's more versatile, a better defender, better passer, better team record with him, better impact. The only 2 things joel is better at than Giannis is shooting. dribbling/handles can go either way tbh
@imfrederic2312
@imfrederic2312 Год назад
@@MarcoRoberto1 What makes Joel « WAY better » than Giannis?
@Jboooog18
@Jboooog18 Год назад
I had giannis MVP as well
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Год назад
I don't feel it's highway robbery or anything all three guys in the race have compelling arguments to win.
@idealcommentary
@idealcommentary Год назад
Another banger bro
@LessGo7921
@LessGo7921 Год назад
Yeaaa no MVP should ever win on a non playoff team imo 😂
@zotanica
@zotanica Год назад
Division rules kept them from making the playoffs, if they used current rules he would've made it(Haven't watched the video, assuming it's Kareem's MVP)
@LessGo7921
@LessGo7921 Год назад
@@zotanica I wrote it before the video. I had Luka getting 1 MVP vote in mind when writing it. Must’ve been a Mavs writer
@zotanica
@zotanica Год назад
@@LessGo7921 oh I feel you
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Год назад
@@LessGo7921 Would Luka receiving a vote in his 2022 season make sense?
@kamelyan8548
@kamelyan8548 Год назад
Good job Andy
@memearmy7197
@memearmy7197 Год назад
Very good video
@lonelyojisan1988
@lonelyojisan1988 Год назад
AndyHoops is my MVP on basketball youtube content.
@Theterminato2013
@Theterminato2013 Год назад
4:22 “Moses became arguably the greatest rebounder in history!” Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain & Dennis Rodman: “Are we jokes to you?!”
@bachnguyenviet4289
@bachnguyenviet4289 Год назад
That's why there's the word "arguably'' lol
@Theterminato2013
@Theterminato2013 Год назад
@@bachnguyenviet4289 Doesn’t make it right, LMAO. 😂🤣.
@sloaner404
@sloaner404 Год назад
I believe Jokic did this feat twice. His first mvp season they were third, and for his second they were sixth.
@timoandteo
@timoandteo Год назад
You are right!!!
@jackdempsey2497
@jackdempsey2497 Год назад
I still question that mvp season of his
@aquatazer
@aquatazer Год назад
@@jackdempsey2497 how? He carried a team to the play-offs just as much as Jordan did the Bulls, but you’re gonna discredit only Jokić‘s MVPs? Crazy talk man.
@iam-12345......
@iam-12345...... Год назад
@@aquatazer The first no, the second yes. The only way for a person to get a back-to-back MVP should be 1st not only in their conference but the league. That second back-to-back should be special, you must have outrageous stats, and the best record in the league.
@aquatazer
@aquatazer Год назад
@@iam-12345...... he did have outrageous stats, and you cannot honestly tell me that if he had a semblance of a good teammate the Nuggets wouldn’t have won more. Giannis has had legitimate All-Star and All-NBA players during his career when he’s done well. Jokić has never had one, yet still was the 1 seed in the West this season. Put aside your biased judging criteria and look at the facts.
@6ix_dizzy
@6ix_dizzy Год назад
Love from Toronto 🩸
@micahheyward5342
@micahheyward5342 Год назад
In the 2020-21 NBA season, Nikola Jokic won the MVP and the Denver Nuggets were 3rd in the West
@KarlMalowned32
@KarlMalowned32 Год назад
I don’t think an MVP winner should be lower than the 5 seed. I’m curious how many MVPs also won the scoring title that same year.
@bo_g4284
@bo_g4284 Год назад
Off the top of my head: at least Harden, Russ, Steph, KD, Jordan, Iverson
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Год назад
Shaq in 00 as well.
@seize3
@seize3 Год назад
That Westbrook year was insane. KD leaving brought up the talk of he could average a triple double, most said no including myself. I just thought there's no way you can do it in today's ball then he proved me wrong lol
@ognjengaric2687
@ognjengaric2687 Год назад
18 times was the MVP also the scoring leader. Bob Petit 1956, 1959 Wilt 1960, 1966 Kareem 1971, 1972 Bob Mcadoo 1975 Michael Jordan 1988, 1991, 1992, 1996, 1998 Shaq 2000 AI 2001 KD 2014 Steph 2016 Russ 2017 James Harden 2018
@figo706
@figo706 Год назад
Yeah, you forgot someone. Jokic first MVP in 2020-2021. The Denver Nuggets finished 47-25 as the third seed.
@robertdominicceasarsalvill2221
Man LeBron vs Harden in 2018 is so close.
@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue
Not even, Harden despite missing Chris Paul for many games was putting in historical numbers whilst leading the Rockets to best record in the league over the Warriors Superteam
@tj5180
@tj5180 Год назад
@@yourfriendlyneighbourhoodvue bron was carrying a horrible cavs team to the playoffs it was close.
@knection1986
@knection1986 Год назад
KP willed Embid into this MVP conversation and ppl are afraid to buck it in order to not appear rascist...
@mairoaid207
@mairoaid207 Год назад
Nice grammar wtf is a rascist I think you meant racist
@davidjr4903
@davidjr4903 Год назад
Yup, the amount of black racists is insane
@august6281
@august6281 Год назад
the real MVP. I mean KP😅
@westbrick6393
@westbrick6393 Год назад
KP himself is a racist
@tarunganesg9700
@tarunganesg9700 Год назад
Nah embiid literally had his best month while jokic had his worth month after that
@brettgordon5640
@brettgordon5640 Год назад
How’s going Andy!
@nbapbaupdate8338
@nbapbaupdate8338 Год назад
James Harden deserves MVP, but Russell Westbrook triple double season INSANE 🔥💪🔥
@liammclaughlin1129
@liammclaughlin1129 Год назад
Andy is coming
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Год назад
Out of curiosity, who is the best player you don’t see listed here. This is every player who finished top five in an MVP vote: ABA Players (24): Connie Hawkins Doug Moe Mel Daniels Larry Jones Willie Somerset Jimmy Jones Rick Barry Spencer Haywood Roger Brown Bob Verga Zelmo Beaty Charlie Scott Dan Issel Artis Gilmore Billy Cunningham Julius Erving George McGinnis Ron Boone Joe Caldwell Willie Wise Bobby Jones Mack Calvin James Silas David Thompson NBA Players (97): Bob Pettit Paul Arzin Bob Cousy Mel Hutchins Dolph Schayes Bill Sharman George Yardley Bill Russell Maurice Stokes Elgin Baylor Wilt Chamberlain Oscar Robertson Jerry West Sam Jones Jerry Lucas Nate Thurmond Lenny Wilkens Dave Bing Wes Unseld Willis Reed Kareem Abdul Jabaar Walt Frazier John Havlicek Dave Cowens Tiny Archibald Bob McAdoo Bob Lainer Elvin Hayes Bill Walton Pete Maravich George Gervin David Thompson Walter Davis Moses Malone Bob Dandridge Larry Bird Dennis Johnson Dan Roundfield Robert Parish Gus Williams Magic Johnson Sidney Moncrief Bernard King Isiah Thomas Terry Cummings Dominique Wilkins Hakeem Olajuwon Michael Jordan Kevin McHale Charles Barkley Clyde Drexler Karl Malone Patrick Ewing David Robinson Scottie Pippen Shaquille O’Neil Penny Hardaway Grant Hill Tim Hardaway Glen Rice Gary Payton Tim Duncan Alonzo Mourning Allen Iverson Jason Kidd Kevin Garnett Chris Webber Tracy McGrady Kobe Bryant Jermaine O’Neil Peja Stojakovic Steve Nash Dirk Nowitski LeBron James Chauncey Billups Chris Paul Dwight Howard Dwayne Wade Kevin Durant Derrick Rose Tony Parker Carmelo Anthony Blake Griffin Joakim Noah James Harden Stephen Curry Russell Westbrook Anthony Davis Kawhi Leonard Isaiah Thomas Damian Lillard Giannis Antetokounmpo Paul George Nikola Jokic Luka Doncic Joel Embid Devin Booker
@tj5180
@tj5180 Год назад
Dont know
@andreisevostianov9525
@andreisevostianov9525 10 месяцев назад
5:27 I put Kareem as an MVP in 1979. Although, Moses was so close that it could easily be him. However, Gervin was only 7th, behind those two + Hayes, World B. Fee and Julius Erving.
@paksta
@paksta Год назад
Just thinking that Petit won MVP closer to Peach Basket-ball than today.
@jakehopper930
@jakehopper930 Год назад
How's going Andy?
@danilobapista
@danilobapista Год назад
Nikola deserves a MVP this season
@zemljajeravna5336
@zemljajeravna5336 Год назад
Absolutely, he is more valuable, leading in every statistic and his team is top 5 defense in the league when he is playing. Also higher seed and played more games. Also won games against teams with other 2 candidates at the end of the season.
@TheCrypticKnight
@TheCrypticKnight Год назад
He is white, so he won't get it
@nvm9040
@nvm9040 Год назад
80’s Jordan put his stats to drag his teams to the postseason before Pippen came into his own
@acdcdave1387
@acdcdave1387 Год назад
I won't be mad if Embiid wins this year but I still think it should go to Jokic. He's basically averaging a triple double, shooting well over 60% from the field and led his team to the first seed in their conference. But if Embiid or even Giannis wins, I'll be happy for them too, all three had a terrific season
@stuartmccleary
@stuartmccleary Год назад
Bron should have MVP and DMVP when he was in Miami tho
@nbapbaupdate8338
@nbapbaupdate8338 Год назад
Jaylen Brown your next video Andy Hoops 🙏🙏🙏
@lottoguy6457
@lottoguy6457 Год назад
Moses came from no where? He dominated the aba.
@AirRusher1992
@AirRusher1992 Год назад
Still waiting for 2 separate videos about the pre-LeBron Cavs and the new CBA.
@ND-OPS
@ND-OPS Год назад
What’s that?
@joshsmindset
@joshsmindset Год назад
@@ND-OPS couple years before lebron got to cleveland. 1995-2003. Then 2003-2010.
@AirRusher1992
@AirRusher1992 Год назад
@@ND-OPS I'm waiting for Andy make those 2 separate videos about the pre-LeBron Cavs and the new CBA agreed last March.
@davidjr4903
@davidjr4903 Год назад
emflopper cried his way to an award 😢😂
@TheCrypticKnight
@TheCrypticKnight Год назад
And espn cried racism so he gets his woke award.
@Theterminato2013
@Theterminato2013 Год назад
@@TheCrypticKnight I’m dead ASF, LMAO 😂🤣
@chukarec
@chukarec Год назад
🏆🏆🏆, thats what i think
@MrReese
@MrReese Год назад
Jordan's '88 season is the best individual season of an NBA player of all time, people who say Bird or Magic should have gotten the MVP have no regard for reality. And Jordan was robbed of probably at least 2 more MVPs because of the "successful team" sentiment.
@jessbactar8728
@jessbactar8728 Год назад
best individual season is anyy season of wilt lol
@MrReese
@MrReese Год назад
​@@jessbactar8728 Since most stats weren't available when Wilt was playing it's impossible to tell, but it was certainly not "every Wilt season". If you think Wilt's worst season is better than the best individual season of all time in basically every metric we know today then you are rather delusional ;).
@cuongquoc5877
@cuongquoc5877 Год назад
Lmao, Hakeem exist so shut up
@AirRusher1992
@AirRusher1992 Год назад
Russ is probably the best player on this list simply because of the triple-double narrative plus it was no coincidence he fell off after this. Malone is definitely the worst on this list. There's no way he should've won it over Timmy. No disrespect to others of course.
@tridra5714
@tridra5714 Год назад
shaq should have won mvp that year
@Cupidt9
@Cupidt9 Год назад
How tf did russ fall off? He is still good the lakers stint was bad but still would be a generational season for most players lol
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Год назад
Westbrook didn't completely fall off until the Lakers stint, he lost in the first round and he got a triple double so often it seemed normal. Add in Luka Doncic doing it often too and now no one cares about the milestone anymore.
@chuco6010
@chuco6010 Год назад
You will never convince me Kareem deserved his ‘76 mvp 😭
@jackdempsey2497
@jackdempsey2497 Год назад
I mean.. i dnt think he did but it was other players who voted 4 him
@fortynights1513
@fortynights1513 Год назад
He may have been the best player in general, but yeah, he didn’t have a very good case for the award.
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Год назад
The players at the time thought so.
@seanhallett7156
@seanhallett7156 Год назад
Division rules are gone now right?
@andreisevostianov9525
@andreisevostianov9525 10 месяцев назад
11:28 yea, that was Harden’s year. Though, Russ was close imo.
@videoanak5571
@videoanak5571 Год назад
Its most valuable PLAYER, not most valuable team member, its not his fault if the other cannot play well
@ddotmargiela8285
@ddotmargiela8285 Год назад
The NBA shouldn't have changed the MVP trophy 🤦🏽‍♂️
@Asthmarevenge
@Asthmarevenge 19 дней назад
How the fuck were the rockets even considered to be in the East when Malone played
@christianjohnson2918
@christianjohnson2918 Год назад
As a Jokic fan, I honestly don’t have a problem with Embiid winning it. His reign at the end of the season won me over.
@AustinHansen
@AustinHansen Год назад
1:40 I have to disagree. Team success shouldn’t be the most important criteria. Players can’t help it if management makes poor decisions. I get there’s an argument that they should make everyone around them better, but it’s so much deeper than that.
@tmac731
@tmac731 Год назад
3:18 those division don’t even make sense. Cavs and the rockets are in the same division? Who tf is the kings?
@kamithekamikaze8619
@kamithekamikaze8619 Год назад
Cincinnati
@DKtrek21
@DKtrek21 Год назад
Spurs and Rockets in the East. My god, it seems so fake but I remember that NBA back then was weird af.
@williamlee7672
@williamlee7672 Год назад
Don’t think anybody could argue Jordan 88 season.
@damianfonseca98
@damianfonseca98 Год назад
Westbrook also broke the record for most triple doubles in the season
@hthrun
@hthrun Год назад
1:38 Not everyone. The best player in the league shouldn't be held back from winning an individual award if his teammates aren't good.
@slimypickle19
@slimypickle19 Год назад
I hate that narratives & analytics are the primary deciding factors in MVP races. If it were up to me, it would just be a good old fashion eye test & 1 question: Who's the best damn player in the NBA. It's that simple. Jordan, Shaq, Kobe, Lebron, & Giannis would all have more MVPs than they currently do.
@irishgrahovac3024
@irishgrahovac3024 Год назад
harden should have two MVP’s, not from 2017 but from 2019. he made offense look so easy
@DFuture99
@DFuture99 Год назад
Joel Embiid has officially joined the list
@fatboy5926
@fatboy5926 Год назад
Yeah the 99 season was a weird. A bit of a bubble year feel to it real but sorta not real feeling at the time. Karl’s MVP at the time wasn’t too controversial he was still great and his numbers were impacted 1 - but the weird ass shortened season but that combined with it being 1999 meant scores were down. 2020 bubble teams playing street all almost at times scores were up. I’d say Malone deserved that MVP. I think yeah his age but being the season after MJ retired - Jazz made the finals the previous 2 years and the Jazz come out and are still at or near the top? That helped Malone too
@AngelliSol
@AngelliSol Год назад
So okay, you can get the Playoffs in the 70 era per division record not by conference record.
@marvellis6762
@marvellis6762 Год назад
And the winner of them all and Grand MVP goes to........ Michael Jordan. 23
@SadfoxGuyver
@SadfoxGuyver Год назад
Carl is Fugazi
@edwardbiglang-awa7313
@edwardbiglang-awa7313 Год назад
Jokic 3 peat
@thisisfaka
@thisisfaka Год назад
Kobe shoulda made it in 2006, trying to drag like hell those Kers to playoffs. Yeah I mispelled the name on purpose noticing how bad they were, as cheap as it gets. 35.4 5 and 4.5 an 81 and 62 in three quarters multiple 40 and 50 point games. What else? Damn
@Robinhudloom
@Robinhudloom Год назад
Where is steve nash 2nd mvp?
@KZA518
@KZA518 Год назад
I feel like the 70’s is a kinda underrated era.. there were just 2 leagues with top talent
@johnnynighthawk156
@johnnynighthawk156 Год назад
I can't comment
@theophilusjones6024
@theophilusjones6024 Год назад
Joel Embiidddddddd
@arnoldjones2435
@arnoldjones2435 Год назад
The problem I have with MVP is that, the criteria changes too much. If lower seeded team can have an MVP than. Kobe should’ve won it when, he dragged that Lakers team to the 7th seed years ago. Then with Westbrook, how is Westbrook a stat padder but Jokic isn’t? Don’t get me started on with D-Rose won the award over LeBron. That was an all-time joke.
@bradleydolphin1049
@bradleydolphin1049 Год назад
Westbrick the stat padder lol
@ST-tf4sq
@ST-tf4sq Год назад
You make great reports, but this seasons MVP is a pity MVP... Joel plays great but always plays like 50 games. He scores 40+ in blowout games when the game is over already, he stat pads a lot. His defense is great but overall, offense amazing minus the flopping, because like 6 free throws per game out of his 12 are bogus calls where he cries and yells. Giannis, Jokic and Taytum deserve it more.. but Nba i pushing for embiid for some reason, when Jokic and Giannis won, no one cried this much, now Embiid and his team, coach, ESPN cries for him. Give him his MVP and be done with it... He wont ever have a chance because he will get injured...
@commentator245
@commentator245 Год назад
Personally, I'd want Jokic to win his third straight MVP... I mean the guy led his team to the top seed in the west. But, correct me if im wrong, if Embiid wins MVP,, is he the MVP with the least amount of games played in the regular season in NBA history with just 66? Lol
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Год назад
@@commentator245 No Bill Walton is.
@ST-tf4sq
@ST-tf4sq Год назад
@@commentator245 i honestly wouldnt mind if embiid was mvp like 3 years ago, he played little but his game wasnt dependable on flopping, he was literally running through people in the paint. Now he scores more because he flopps ans yells, literally ay least 2 calls every game he plays NO ONE TIUCHES HIM, he yells like he is getting raped and gets 2 free throws... I know his body isnt strong enough for him to play like giannis, but he should have takeed care of the body many years ago, but no he started some seqsons chubby... For me, this year he isnt mvp.. and people ignore the stad padding, whats the point if u score 20 out of your 40 when there is 25pts difference and other team is giving young kids and benchplayers minutes... But everyone ignores that. Plus he always has a great team, i do not know why they havent won ring already... Few years ago with jj reddick that team was ring worthy... But embiid got injured in playoff, and he looked chubby compared to today, so its his fault he got injured...
@commentator245
@commentator245 Год назад
@@ST-tf4sq not trying to defend Embiid or anything but Jokic has always been a chubby player his entire career😐
@jugadug
@jugadug Год назад
Practically kept nagging voters to give him the award
@therealmitch3
@therealmitch3 Год назад
Embiid better send perkins a thank you basement for getting him that mvp.
@hoopingwithhamez
@hoopingwithhamez Год назад
first, havent even watched the video but i know it'll be great!
@jaguareagle7026
@jaguareagle7026 Год назад
Embiid deserves MVP
@zemljajeravna5336
@zemljajeravna5336 Год назад
Undeserved MVP only because vote fatigue and the media narrative
@jaguareagle7026
@jaguareagle7026 Год назад
@@zemljajeravna5336 Greatest scoring season by any player ever. By all the free throws it doesnt look like an mvp choice for mee
@francisharding3837
@francisharding3837 Год назад
I like your content. But you gotta get your grammar right dude. Past and present tenses should not be confused
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 Год назад
bob macadoo was kd like before kd; people forget kareeem team was so trash with out him
@tj5180
@tj5180 Год назад
Mcadoo was underrated. 6'9 forward/ center who could score from anywhere and was a good rebounder. People also forget he played on the showtime lakers in the 80s
@justtimes9257
@justtimes9257 Год назад
@@tj5180 agreed man i wish people would appreciate him more plus if u wanna see player who was the orginal stretch 4 is mcadoo
@FHTV19
@FHTV19 Год назад
2020s gonna take that crown from the 70s
@keqing311
@keqing311 Год назад
The greatest mvp of all time was jordan in 88
@AirRusher1992
@AirRusher1992 Год назад
First
@falcon176
@falcon176 Год назад
2017: westbrook deserves the MVP cuz muh triple double!!! 2018: well actually westbrook is stat padding to get the triple double (just like he was last year)
@cazu2479
@cazu2479 Год назад
No I think Jokic is winning MVP again
@nonanimeprofilepic
@nonanimeprofilepic Год назад
Isiah thomas got robbed in 2017
@user-jw5qj8kv2y
@user-jw5qj8kv2y Год назад
The Royals went 55-25 in the 1963-1964 season, but Oscar Robertson won the season MVP in 1964
@joshuaarawole8589
@joshuaarawole8589 Год назад
The bias is real. When Jokic was the 6th seed you mention the fact that the other mvp candidates had a much better supporting cast. However, regarding Westbrook, you conveniently ignore the fact that his team was significantly worse than Harden’s rockets and even worse than Jokic’s supporting cast.
@panner11
@panner11 Год назад
Not really. Before that season, it was Harden's team that was projected to be worse. But the dantoni offense with guys like Ryan anderson worked well. Russ had oladipo and adams who were thought to be good talents next to Westbrook. But oladipo didn't mesh well with Russ ball dominance. And we saw the season after oladipos breakout most improved year. Russ doesn't elevate his teammates in the same way. A lot of those players post-russ turned out well in their careers, adams a rock for Memphis. Meanwhile, again nuggets second option last year was Barton. And Barton is already a bench warmer now.
@joshuaarawole8589
@joshuaarawole8589 Год назад
@@panner11 Stop it. Westbrook’s team was significantly worse than Harden’s. OKC had Alex Abrines, Ersan Ilyasova, Taj Gibson, Norris Cole, Nick Collison, Kyle Singler, Semaj Christon, Anthony Morrow, Joffrey Lauvernge. Sabonis was a rookie, Jerami Grant was still young and hadn’t developed yet, Andre Roberson (great defender, horrible on offense), Oladipo and Adams were ok and Enes Freedom was good on offense but a cone defensively. Harden’s roster was vastly superior to Westbrook’s thunder. Adams was better with Russ than he is with Memphis, Oladipo and the other younger players weren’t in their prime so obviously they’d be better later in their careers you dullard. Also, KD, PG, and Bradley Beal all had their best season with Russ. This also applies to Ibaka, Adams, and many other role players.
@efaz4321
@efaz4321 Год назад
damn they really gave Karl Malone the MVP also known for him the Most Valuable Pedophile
@itsonlyfairtokc
@itsonlyfairtokc Год назад
The league should retire the number 23 #jordan
@gortgaming2960
@gortgaming2960 Год назад
harden shouldve been mvp in 2017
@zotanica
@zotanica Год назад
You know ball
@Maxjuliann
@Maxjuliann Год назад
Russ deserved it idc
@Chris1200923
@Chris1200923 Год назад
@@Maxjuliann shut up casual
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Год назад
If seeding matters that much than Jokic shouldn't have won last year imo.
@trevmorin
@trevmorin Год назад
Nah, real men know it's Kawhi Leonard
@ollies984
@ollies984 Год назад
Pretty much all of what you said about Moses malone in 1982 was false, he played for the 76ers at that point
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Год назад
No that was in 83.
@tj5180
@tj5180 Год назад
He joined the team in 1983 in a sign and trade
@paksta
@paksta Год назад
Harden should have won instead of Westbrook. Check everyone's predictions for Rockets when Dwight left.
@tj5180
@tj5180 Год назад
The thunder were also horrible. They would barely reach 20 games without russ. Even worse then the team russ had
@CrazyxEnigma
@CrazyxEnigma Год назад
@@tj5180 I doubt tank commander Oladipo and rookie Sabonis take that team past 20 games either.
@bowwow3991
@bowwow3991 Год назад
No offense but we all knew russ won that mvp because he had that historic trip dub season since big o, only to averaged trip dub again 3times
@goku..7
@goku..7 Год назад
Joel don’t deserve the mvp honestly
@SunilThapa-mh1yh
@SunilThapa-mh1yh Год назад
Jokic is the worst mvp of all time
@zemljajeravna5336
@zemljajeravna5336 Год назад
Best mvp of all time, best passer in the history of the mvp, most efficient player in the history of the nba.
@TempoQuin
@TempoQuin Год назад
The last two still bogus to me. Should of been Harden 2017 and one of the other two in 2022. 6th seeds losing in the 1st round shouldn't be mvp if there's clearly a better candidate.
@cameronzoellick1077
@cameronzoellick1077 Год назад
Embiid doesn’t deserve it
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