Most definitely clickers, because they dont die one shot like the runners, shooting them would give away your location, but a huge horde of runners, and you're dead.
I used to think the Rat King was the last stage of the infection but I heard that the only reason that monstrosity happened was because all the original infected were grouped up together in one room. So in other words, the Rat King is not a normal stage for the infected.
I think the situation that created the Rat King could be something that happened more than once. Especially in larger cities. So I imagine that there are rat kings in bigger cities' hospitals, trapped in collapsed buildings, underground like in the show, or maybe even some cramped caves where hordes passed through.
@@noelvillasenor3671maybe a type that is like smarter than a stalker and uses Audio to lure the humans and attacks like a stalker and a fight like a clicker
@@noelvillasenor3671 I mean it is cordyceps and that makes sense there could be like army of ants that want to eat you Or a bear with armor of a bloater but can’t hear
We really haven't gotten to see Stalkers in the show and the description in the video only describes them from the show. Stalkers are rare and tend to hide in poorly lit areas. They ambush people unlike Runners or Clickers. They are appear more in Part 2.
@@russelldeck4168 I think people are not realizing what I'm saying. We have seen Stalkers in the show, but they do not act like Stalkers in the game. Stalkers only hide, hence the name.
I hope the Bloaters will keep their status of "If you see one you run' because these things can only be dispatched I'd say with LOTS of fire or a gigantic ammount of firepower only pre outbreak millitary had
I don't believe so, I think they evolved from stalkers. A shambler has it's face near intact. If it was just a version of bloater, it wouldn't have such an intact face. Stalkers are the last stage of infected with a more intact looking face, whereas when clickers come about, their faces have been split open and split apart by the fungus, and as such so are the bloaters. That said, it's kinda unknown where shamblers come from, I think they're just another infected. It was theorized about the wet areas, but we see them in super dry climates as well (santa barbara).
@@zerodawn0994 I agree. In one of the notes you can find, the author details the shambler as “something [that] made it halfway to a bloater and took a turn”. I think it definitely evolves after a stalker through very specific physical/environmental conditions.
They tend to stick together when attacking so they can stick together when they attack so they can attack together while sticking in a group together to attack as a group Does that explain it better?
I am hopeful that the show will focus more on the conflict with cordyceps zombies rather than going the Walking Dead route and focusing mostly on dysfunctional remnant human societies.
The bloater is so weird to me. Its way of killing seems so counterintuitive to the goals of the fungus? Just rip someone's head off so they can't be a vector of infection?
And then we got Shamblers! Pretty much a bloater but instead of throwing spores at you it explodes spores from its body. Most likely a mutation from the wet climate of Seattle (Spoiler alert: Seattle has been bombed to kingdom come and now has a river running through the city)
@@levirauch4904Have to wonder how that happened. Bombs aren't usually that precise. And any sane government would have started using nukes when it got to this point
Aside from the germination stage where infected find a corner to die and spread spores, there's really only 4 main stages. But it's possible to have variations and mutations based on environment So there's runners, stalkers, clickers. If the infected is not exceptional, they find a place to die and germinate. If not, they may become shamblers or bloaters. Then there are special circumstances like the rat king.
There is a fifth stage of the infected from the last of us that also appeared in the second game just like this last stage the rat king the fifth stage is called a shambler which is zombie, which has been for I think 20 or different years when the zombies die, they explode, and they’re only killed by explosives and fire by using fire weapons
@@moneymakerhbd4710 Well I'm glad we've clarified this. I shall write it into the literature (in Latin of course) to commemorate this momentous event in television history for all time
IIRC the infected per episode 5 only had been confined underground a few weeks. Otherwise if they had been underground for years their human form would essentially be dead from starvation.
The fungus network will share the water and nutrition among the infected and we know from first episode that the fungi won't let the hosts die or decompose from within according to the interview opener, even that hasn't explained the fungus network back then. The one from Museum (Episode 2) hasn't able to sustain and survive probably for few years indeed, because it's inside a building and eventually died out. The ones that burrowed underground can live forever as long there are rain pouring down there. I am more interested how FEDRA in Kansas City manage to lure most of the infected beneath the ground and seal up the entrances. They would have continued to do so if it wasn't for the revolution of the civilians and they too are concerned about this, but the leader of the revolution has to be so hellbent on revenge while her brother is all about forgiveness. Does that last part seems familiar to you? The second game's moral of the story of Hate and Forgiveness. The first game about Love and Indifference.
If echo-location is their MO, wouldn't a device that overwhelmed that sense disable them? Maybe instead of being really quiet, you need something that's very, very loud and emits sounds of different pitches all at once. Projecting (narrowcasting) such sounds off buildings or other sound-reflective objects like sheet metal or water should confuse and distract the clickers into virtual immobility, rendering them easy to destroy. A belt of 50-100 firecrackers would also do the trick.
“Because what I didn’t want to end up with in this movie was a guy in a suit. See I grew up as a kid watching science fiction and monster movies and it was always a guy in a suit…and my fear was ‘they’ll laugh at us’. -John Carpenter
Everything isn't perfect For example, in the human there are parts that is a downside to the body but it is still there I can see the same thing happening to the bloater, especially when the body is messed up
Since you tackled "Ratking" from TLOU2, can you also describe the difference between "Bloater" and "Shambler"? Or are they just the same with different name?
What i still don't understand is where did the infected come from in that episode. It was stated that the infected where forced underground. But they were then all cleared out and we get proof of that when the main characters use the tunnels. So why did the infected come out from the ground.
They better not kill Joel in season 2 like they did in the game. Or you will have the same kind of backlash from the watchers of the show that didnt play the games.
Imagine in TLOU3 they have to create a huge like 8km+ diameter creature just like in real life to top the part 2. That thing probably will require nukes to kill it.
Environment really shapes the way infected types developed. Moisture and humidity forms the shamblers that you missed and I believe other farm’s exist throughout the world.
I’ve always thought to myself how disgusting the areas brimming with spores must smell. Like Ellie I get that you’re immune but are you sure you don’t want to wear a mask to at least protect your nose???
Noooo don't show more of the infected. It takes the freight out of the show if you see them all the time. Once or twice an episode Max. I was so shocked to see them pouring out of the ground, if I saw a bunch prior in the episode I feel like that moment doesn't hit as hard
Rat king is not even a stage. It's a special specie of fungus infection. Shambler is almost similar to Bloater. The same stage, but have some extra mutations.
How do they still have cloths if it’s been 20 years. You’ll think with wear and tear or the elements of the world would worn the cloths more than we see.
The fungus hijacks the entire body and repurposed everything. So the functions that makes the body grow and age are rewritten to strengthen the host to be more efficient to spread the fungus. So that kid would not grow physically but I wouldn't say it'd become as big as a Bloater over time, but would be a hard solid target if it's speed & flexibility erodes
I kinda wish they were just gonna do a single season of the show because my god was the second game terrible. The story should have ended with Joel and Ellie getting back to Tommy’s
Another channel is putting forth the idea that the infected cannot tell if another individual is infected. But, following from your description in this video, that would mean that in large numbers they would be as likely to attack each other as an uninfected individual. Could you comment on this?
Both versions tend to happen. The larger the groups the more often friendly fire happens because they tend to attack whatever they can partially see or echo-locate but they will also attack whatever else is in the area because the fungus's mission is to spread to whatever it can no matter the target.
@@newelljoseph5060 I would think, in a crowded situation, this indiscriminate targeting would increase chances of escape for individuals on the edges of the swarm. If you're somewhere in the middle, you're toast. I'm wondering if the use of echo location would trigger diminished response from other infected and could this be used as a shield, by generating the same sound in some manner?
@@lucusrose That has been used to handle a few at a time cause it'll cause confusion in smaller numbers. It's just more difficult it larger and more crowded areas
The way it literally splits their head in half makes it look extremely painful and horrible and the most humane thing would be to execute them at once.
Considering that this is a fungal infection, the final stage will likely be something that hasn't been shown yet in the games, but spreads massive amounts of spores high into the atmosphere, which will infect the remaining surviving humans and animals. I also expect that the original mutation was not natural but bioengineered.. possibly by an alien race that wanted to remove a future competitor without making it apparent they were involved. Parasites have little reason to eliminate their host species, as it would spell their own demise as well. This is why lethal viruses (like ebola) tend to burn themselves out before spreading too far whereas others, like influenza and corona, tend to be mild with only sporadic occasions of greater lethality. Other viruses will go dormant for years, ideally while remaining infectious, and some will even embed themselves into a species' DNA...
