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Welcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2023 experiment video Every team gets promoted or relegated in the English Football League, causing absolute chaos in FM23.
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4 июн 2023

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@bababababababa6124 Год назад

MK Dons getting relegated from the National League is pretty much how I expect their next few years to be 😂

@gui18bif Год назад

Let's hope

@huntungriffle8121 Год назад

Up the fucking dons

@archiesmith6023 Год назад

i hope not mate

@AtomicSpino Год назад

Im a dons fan and we had a dreadful season, literally last season we got third then we place 21st? They're not fit to wear the shirt

@core_russell3869 11 месяцев назад

@@AtomicSpinoas a Newport County fan, it's the same here, we were in the play offs the other year and now we're crap

@M4tth3wH1 Год назад

As a Leicester fan seeing this after we actually got relegated irl, watching us finishing 6th in this is just so painful 😂😭

@TomFM Год назад

Maybe you'll manager 6th in the Championship next season? 😂

@M4tth3wH1 Год назад

@TomFM maybe haha. Got to get the recruitment right on and and off the field before we start thinking about getting back up. Great video btw, keep up the good work 👍

@neffersonjickel3901 Год назад

This was an interesting experiment! I'd love to see one where the English pyramid gets 0 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, and 3 points for a loss. The worst teams would rise to the top, get Prem/European money, get better and then start getting less points. Cups, Europe, and Internationals would stay the same as they are in real life.

@Sirjohnfootball Год назад

What a f*cking stupid idea

@NathanHeaver Год назад

Yes that will be fun

@TomFM Год назад

Great idea!

@timokarff6162 Год назад

@@TomFM Based on that: What would happen if a win and a draw both get you 2 points, and 1 point for a loss?

@Will_Flatt Год назад

@@TomFM come on Tom we should do it

@Koeienmelker09 Год назад

Fulham did very well, 3 Europa League's, 2 Champions league finals and 1 conference league Final. (This was nice to see as a Fulham fan)

@DefensorLF Год назад

Tom what if you made it so top 5 euro league teams had to play with south american nation rules (for example, all english clubs get put into brasil , having to play with brazil's selection rules and calendar, spain into argentina's calendar, italy into chile ect) and the other way around (brazil teams into the prem, argentinian in la liga)

@BuckledFrame2187 Год назад

That would be sick.

@kaironogueira5604 Год назад

Super!

@christianlenik5307 Год назад

Phew Sevilla, Eintracht, etc. Vs Al Ahly, Zamalek

@Theepicgolem123 Год назад

6:39 i cant imagine the amount of cleaning that spurs did to that dusty trophy cabinet to fit in those league cup trophies

@liamthomas9622 Год назад

I'd love to see the English leagues have the "Belgian playoffs" and see if that affects what happens up and down the leagues

@fabianbailey488 Год назад

UP THE BROMLEY BOYS 🎉🎉🎉

@bababababababa6124 Год назад

2nd best club in London (after the mighty hammers ⚒)

@Dutchintheheart Год назад

@ZvenoGaming Год назад

@@Dutchintheheart yes

@jakedavies5899 Год назад

Hereford on top

@loganclark1206 Месяц назад

Just got promoted into the Efl through playoffs

@zHawkC Год назад

The strangest thing about this is how consistently low the goal difference is. Would expect the prem teams that stay top 8 to all have massive GD vs the yoyo teams. Also saw some league winners with only +20 GD which seems really odd

@bensquires2819 Год назад

Missed Newport County being stuck in the conference and Southend going up.

@erethjallsen8819 Год назад

You’ve been killing it with the cool ideas recently! Love it Tom!

@daansaras138 Год назад

Hi Tom, I like the idea and I'm curious how the teams in The Netherlands will do. Do you have a shortcut how to easily change the competition rules? Thanks in advance!

@OzgurOri Год назад

@core_russell3869 Год назад

This needs more attention because I need to know now

@gumpastee Год назад

This is a really good idea. I'm impressed by your originality

@Noname-uo2oz Год назад

Really loving the videos for a while now Tom, you deserve the 100k🔥

@TheKoesti123 Год назад

Can you change the qualification spots for Europe? What if all second leagues of a nation (so Championship, Ligue 2, Serie B, Bundesliga 2, ...) get all the qualification spots for Europe?

@GYFC420 Год назад

Idea:in the first szn only 1 team gets relegated but 1 more team gets relegated every season until every team goes down except for 1st place and then they would win

@stephenfrankland485 Год назад

love to see this as just the top and bottom 10 change, leave a few open spots for maintaining league

@gracielynn9623 Год назад

I love to see you make a video about what if you replaced the bottom eight English championship sides with the top 8 USL championship sides from last season. Could be quite interesting.

@SpoopyGamer Год назад

FA Cup "nobody out the ordinary won it" Bruh, a small team like Everton won it twice

@senanjackson3364 Год назад

Since when are Everton small?

@SpoopyGamer Год назад

@@senanjackson3364 Always were, Always will be

@senanjackson3364 Год назад

@DomRawR ah well that definitely isn't true, they're a big team. Big team doesn't just mean the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool, sue even Newcastle are big

@rogercrane1767 Год назад

Must have started watching in the last decade, or joking. everton are historically massive

@SpoopyGamer Год назад

🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣

@guismodrum78 Год назад

Very entertaining, thank you Tom

@vangoal172 Год назад

Tom thank you very much, your content is really cool, sending you love from Tunisia 🖤

@TomFM Год назад

Glad you enjoy it! Love to Tunisia!

@joshualiley Год назад

I think it would be more interesting with an 8 up, 8 stay, 8 down model so that teams could get a foothold and have the chance to spring up without having a massive dwarf in class all in 1 go

@villabear Год назад

Fairly new subscriber here. Love the content. I’d like to see a completely random football league. All 92 sides get randomised into their league. Probably a lot of work but interesting to see how quick sides drop and the cream rises to the top.

@Fizzydog77 Год назад

This would actually be really cool, I second this!!

@flak509 Год назад

CHAOS! I love it Tom 😂😂

@ah_effe Год назад

You should do a save with reversed prize money in the top 5 leagues and europe too. (Like 1st in england get the least amount of money)

@Bcfc2011 5 месяцев назад

At the start when he said it’s not looking good for the blues I’m like ugh cuz that’s my team and FRANK LAMPARD OH HELL NAH luckily we got prometed back up

@Ant_FM Год назад

Get in! Stoke won the conference league 😊 that has made my day! If only if it came true. Brilliant video Tom that was a great one.

@MNFM21 Год назад

thanks for doing my suggestion xD

@Rugby0nTop 6 месяцев назад

I love how Burnley just did not change the entire video

@EuanBCFC Год назад

6:24 I mean, Yeovil have literally done exactly the same as Scunthorpe irl, but in a shorter time period

@frog605 Год назад

hi tom, good vid. can you rank all of the FM games that you have played

@samtyler689 Год назад

59 year old be celebrating a European trophy in Portugal would be nice! (Also just nice to see Charlton doing well in a save, we’re usually rubbish!)

@aaronroberts291 Год назад

Do a rebuild of Newport County from their European stints in the 80’s. Every video nowadays they go from L2 to the 7th tier and would be good to see them succeed

@jamesminor8576 Год назад

That 2026 League One season was MAD!!!

@cameronlinley96 Год назад

"Wrexham seem to be the biggest Yo-Yo club of all time" THEY ARE ALL YO-YO CLUBS TOM

@TomFM Год назад

You make a good point...

@GenericZac Год назад

Doing this experiment with all ten tiers of English football would be mayhem

@user-iw4ue8zz1n 5 месяцев назад

I loved that my club (Bath City) did appear in this video 3 times 😊

@mhdk677 Год назад

10:20 what's the background song? Sounds so much like a Danish song. Have tried looking up if it's a sample but can't find anything

@englishdragon88 Год назад

I’ve only recently discovered your RU-vid channel and I’m already a big fan of it I was just wondering how you’re doing videos like this? Is it from the steam workshop? If not where? I currently play FM23 and I’ve got the English league to the combined county leagues I can’t remember what step that is on the football pyramid but I’m going through that I’d love to play through the game with your mods that you have showcased and would like to know where you get the mods

@S1NON54 Год назад

he is using in-game editor, than he just simulates seasons and makes saves to check them in the video

@danmoody8244 Год назад

Interesting concept would love to play this as mod in fm

@christianlenik5307 Год назад

0:08 "ELITE" Lincoln 😂

@TomFM Год назад

Got to represent

@christianlenik5307 Год назад

@@TomFM On My Manager Savegame, Lincoln won the FA-Cup... ...while being relegated to National League...

@copious983 Год назад

I think if you had a prom/rel play-off between the leagues it might have looked very different

@ellibod1 Год назад

Is this available on the steam workshop? The all team’s promoted or relegated thing

@Billymortzz 10 месяцев назад

Need to redo this but with every single league in England, would be very interestint

@Ted_RBLXoff Год назад

You should try a reverse table. 20th win the title 20-17th all get Champions League 16-15th Europa and 14th Conference. Those in 1st, 2nd and 3rd all get relegated.

@caseyjennett7446 Год назад

Interesting one for you. The most successful team in the European competitions each season get relegated to the national league (or equivalent). Should spring some interesting results me thinks

@72Reiss Год назад

Love that experiment!

@andylindress Год назад

How do you do this Tom in the editor? Have you got a video you can share or a link?

@cundsmobile4540 Год назад

I have a idea give a random no legue team man citys team and see how long it takes them to get promoted or if the players leave before they get to a champions league

@llSuperSnivyll Год назад

6:22 It could be worse, such as getting relegated anyways when there are only 4 relegated teams.

@harrytmm Год назад

someone needs to make a datatbase of this

@ryancheung2399 Год назад

What a great experiment. Curious to know how many managers got sacked because of the relegation

@brentton2 Год назад

2:05 you’re wrong there as Halifax Town, Bromley and Southend United got promoted instead of Stevenage, Harrogate Town and Newport County

@waveringvermin2102 Год назад

York promoted to league 1, all we have to do is wait until 2062 and hope someone in the FA has an aneurysm and implements these rules. The dream is alive…

@samuelmarron5875 6 месяцев назад

Middlesbrough actually came 7th in the 2004/05 season to qualify for Europe the second time around…

@JayStanTheMan Год назад

What if you moved the MLS, the entire league, to England and placed it right in between the Championship and League One? MLS teams could be promoted to the Championship or relegated to Leauge One and I’d be very curious to see where they ended up after 50 years!

@nadzmipaktam Год назад

Hi Tom. I have an idea. You can build a league with the all champions team from UEFA Coefficient ranking 1 to 20. You also can do vice versa by using last place team to see who's team the worst 😂.

@S1NON54 Год назад

West Ham after being relegated to championship and promoted to Premier league every year: I`m movin up and down, side to side like rollercoaster

@BigD4ddy4G Год назад

MK Dons in 2062 getting relegated from the National League 👌🏻

@nickysturzu Год назад

Maybe you can create an experiment like the Super League, but with promotion and relegation, like Super League A, Super League B and so on...

@nhantnt Год назад

1:46 LOL Also Gillingham is one of my favorite teams, it's great to see them in the Championship, then the National League, then the National League again, to League One, to League Two. Never a premier league though ;-; And as a red, it's funny how Man Utd was relegated in their first season :V

@austinberwick4927 Год назад

watford loved coming 9th in the premier league

@GingerTwat1 Год назад

I just subbed (at 99k) reloaded and you were then at 100k 👍👍

@GingerTwat1 Год назад

Also you hit 100k

@jacobthompson5697 Год назад

You should do every team is in the promotion playoffs next

@crowreligion Год назад

Lets expriment this Win - 3 points Draw - 1 point AND add 0.1 to k unless k is 2. k is 0.5 when each season starts. k has a minimum limit of 0.5 and maximum limit of 2.0 Lose - all your points that you have currently collected gets k times itself. Also, if k isnt 0.5, reduce 0.1 from k. Additionally, to get more draws, there is no overtime.

@BhlackBishop Год назад

The top prem clubs probably poached all the good players that got relegated hence getting stronger and stronger every season. That sweet first division money must be well shared across the country by now.

@jeffreyboggleton Год назад

9:26 LET'S GO WE IN PREM BOIS

@lewiswoods2012 Год назад

PLEASE HELP ME, where in the pregame editor can you chnage the promotion and relegation spots i have looked in keague standings etc but cannot find it anywhere

@einarjuel Год назад

You've successfully simulated a two-party system

@mclark8857 Год назад

mental that in the first season Man United got relegated and qualified for the UCL at the same time

@oscarscadds36 Год назад

Weymouth (my local club) got to league one lol like that’s ever going to happen ever

@MOONPSLA Месяц назад

South Shields is where I am from!!

@emmadestcroix9079 Год назад

Up the blades

@nazgulcanellas3047 Год назад

How you did it? I have the editor and i don't see this type of options

@Gavin8708 11 месяцев назад

Yeovil Town did what Luton Town did but backwards💀

@YTVossy Год назад

You should turn the money around. So national league teams are earning premier league money and vise versa but for all the divisions.

@davidarends668 Год назад

I wonder if any of those Conference League winners were playing in the Championship when they won

@noddyjoe Год назад

Ah yes, Tranmere fan here - seems we dropped out of existence entirely!

@GamingTimeNL Год назад

Do an experiment before the Bosman Arrest, so every team in Europe can only play 3 foreign players

@John-hh8lq Год назад

SUGGESTION #1: Is there a way to change the game where the team get the amount of points per how many goals they get in a match? e.g. Arsenal 5 - 3 Spurs... Arsenal get the 5 points (obviously) but Spurs would still get 3 points although they lost? SUGGESTION #2: Start all teams in all the divisions in alphabetical order or TOTALLY randomise all teams in all the leagues and see where they end up over 50/100 years? SUGGESTION #3: Incorporate a Draft system like the USA do in NFL where the best players are picked from a list?

@gdparry2727 Год назад

Imagine if it went back to only champions go in champions league like the early 90s.

@natashaabdu 10 месяцев назад

0:07 Bro actually put Lincoln at elite

@frankshaw6243 Год назад

Can you do a vlog at chesterfield vs Matlock

@noah45675 Год назад

would be more interesting if you focused on the prem/championship clubs

@austinberwick4927 Год назад

chaos meant to be

@Trollolmen Год назад

Hey Tom, the experiment was really interesting! We would like to try this with a friend, would you have a link to download the database ? Thank you in advance

@thetrainhub390 Год назад

Is this a mod I can download on Steam?

@LordWay Год назад

Relegating Exeter is something i'm taking personally 🤣

@dillon2493 Год назад

newport were actually the first team from league 2 to be stuck in the national league

@justzaxx7150 Год назад

Love seeing Gills get some love in a video

@TomFM Год назад

They had a superb start! Wouldn't be surprised to see them promoted next season irl!

@justzaxx7150 Год назад

@@TomFM As a Gills fan I hope so too, hopefully we can face Lincoln again next season!

@Mr1nv1s1ble Год назад

Anyone else notice that at the end of the 2041 season, Newcastle went down but had a UCL spot? Did they win it and finish 10th?👀

@charlespickering1416 Год назад

Probably won the europa league

@Mr1nv1s1ble Год назад

@@charlespickering1416 I did also think this after posting 👍😆

@Mr1nv1s1ble Год назад

@@charlespickering1416 also, why can’t your name be Ronnie?😂🤣

@charlespickering1416 Год назад

@@Mr1nv1s1ble Ronnie has done so much damage to the Pickering name...

@Mr1nv1s1ble Год назад

@@charlespickering1416 who?

@Founder_YT Год назад

Swindon promoted to league 1 in every decade 😂

@archieplays03 Месяц назад

Can you do a tutorial to simulate 100 years into the future?

@svokxz6435 Год назад

Imagine this happened in real life.

@NaNa_waffler 6 месяцев назад

Charlton in the prem and winning the conference league 🤩

@jameswg13 Год назад

Wonder what this did for manager hirings and firings every season

@joshlucas4867 5 месяцев назад

Think this is the first fm video that morecambe have actually been mentioned…ofc not for a good reason

@Cideo.Vids1 Год назад

app?

@joeelliott4820 Месяц назад

What if 19 teams for the premier league were relegated every season (the other leagues stay the same with the exception of the 19 championship team who are pomtiated