Every turret versus the Core | Mindustry 

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@@ee-kk9wr what do you mean? He used coal, and not piratite

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And he didn't use coolant or an overdrive projector and dome to speed up the damage

It was for a fair comparison

It's very funny, i put surge walls close to ripple bateries on the campaing and they just waste ammo while i build something to counter them

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Ikr for Spectres thorium is literally cheaper (more accessible) than graphite, yet like a million times stronger :p He's evil.

Graphite is more for when thorium is unavailable

@@ZymerBoy you need to redo this video Use the best ammo better placement for some turrets

@@ZymerBoy evil!

Cyclones fed with surge and with a wet target have the highest DPS of any turret in the game

Stonks

@@notBeWitchy yep, although it's not exactly very cost efficient and overall it's better to just get spectres at that point since cyclones have less range and surge is expensive while thorium isn't

I've used nothing but cyclone and meltdown/spectre. Spectre is my favorite for gaurdians and the surge cyclones (usually cry-cooled with a overdrive projector not dome) melt hordes.

@@trulers8713 yeah that works

The core is Gonna get destroyed

Cuz using cheap, easily produced, and thus commonly used ammunition for the test makes the most sense. Not a person in the world uses Duos with pyratite/blast, there are way better turrets for that. And then there's surge alloy, the most extremely expensive material of Mindustry, you'll be happy if you ever get enough produced, kinda. Thorium... It's not much more expensive than titanium but still, titanium is more accessible. Completely understandable why he did this the way he did. This is what gives accurate, actually useful data for players on attack/campaign maps.

@@hunormagyar1843 I think that if you have a spectre you should have enough resources to put thorium ammunition

@@lautarobertoluzzi1477 Yeah then I saw that he not only used worse ammo for the Fuse, but also the Spectre... I completely agree, thorium lategame is literally cheaper than graphite, yet way better than it as ammo too. Graphite is just, "sh*t I need any garbage to throw at the enemy attackers immediately", there's no single turret in which graphite shines. It's really only used cuz laser/airblast drills are what's expensive, but once you have a single watercooled thorium-mining airblast on the map, you can abuse thorium to all hell, it just shoots outta the drill in huge quantities, practically can run everything on thorium that accepts it.

@@hunormagyar1843 i mean, you're so incredibly wrong with what you said it's kind of funny, consider using water and cryo to boost your turrets, and PLEASE, NEVER, load your spectres with graphite, that's a huge waste of surge, dps, space and you lose crowd control bcs no pierce. Also, why would you build a salvo and load it with copper? Thorium salvos have one of the best dps/block-used in the game while being cheap, and you are also not considering the combos by using only cheap ammo, blast on ripples has a much better damage than graphite, considering it's just the coal you'd already use with graphite but with a bit of lead and sand (considering maps where sand is more easily available) and blast has a 4x ammo multiplier on ripples, meaning two shots per blast. And the blasted debuff combos with cryo tsunami to slow down and crack land tier 4's and 5's open. Also, blast compound does much more damage than metaglass on Ciclone, and AGAIN has a better ammo multiplier of 5x, without the 0,8 firing speed, and you you are wasting sand and lead on metaglass to be shot out of a ciclone, might as well combine those with the always available coal to deal that extra dps on a less messy frontline. You just gotta learn how to transport that blast safely, no big deal I bet you don't use surge and plastanium walls bcs you think they are expensive lol

It's ok... Things happen...

It's ait, Z. Just chill

Lol Parallax

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Sublimate is scary dude

I have thorium for my spsctre its cheap and the laser drills really help as airblast substitutes

​@@exa0710you know 1 airblast can fill up spectre with adding water and boosted by overdrive maybe 2

@gigachad1925 yes, but I was going for a budget here

And also anti clickbait! Thumbnail was present in the vid, very nice :)

swarmers only accept good ammo

@@AxoCatWasTaken but all other turrets also accept that same, if not, equivalently good ammo, why not balance the filed by giving everyone that access?

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You a dum dum, let me explain: Yes, good positioning makes them great anti swarmers, but their unaccuracy doesn't come into play against ground tier 4's and 5's because they walk slowly and have big hitboxes, so you can use ripples to anti swarm and lancers to anti heavy AS WELL as anti swarm on good positions, and they are very good anti land t4,t5's just look on youtube comparisons between cryo'ed lancers and croy'ed meltdown Seriously, a had a defence with spectres, lancers and ripples, and the spectres where suposed to the anti heavy, but the lancers (on unoptimal spots) just stole the spotlight and vaporized the reings Also, i don't think they cost too much energy to fire, so if you got a good silicon production and are having problems with land heavies, you should just spam away imo Also, you must cryo-overdrive all your turrets cus 2~3 is crazy few

wow, using the lancer literally like you would a polearm hide behind a shield while holding it out and let enemies walk into it definitely not a coincidence

@@dadmitri4259 Yep

fuse on it's maximum dps

@@ee-kk9wr not the fuse, something other turrets that doesn't use maximum power

Thats cool, But who asked

Yes

Yeah, I pretty much messed up the ammo usage here in this video. Might plan making another video, but every turret will get the maximum damage that they could, so it will be fair

he said most commonly used

@@ovencore2549 so you telling me that you and most people use copper for ammo

@@glowingplutonium3345 maybe cheap ammos. Notice he uses graphite for spectre, metaglass for cyclone and titanium fuse. Spectre and salvo wouldve been faster with thorium though.

Tbh, this one part of the video is very confusing. It been a while since I have played with other players, so I didn't really exactly have a clear idea about what is the used ammo for turrets. So yeah, I apologize for that

@@ZymerBoy it's fine, Z, if you want to know then here's a list: Salvo: Newer players will use copper. Average players use copper and maybe thorium sometimes. Better players use thorium always. Spectre: Newer players will likely use thorium but on the off chance they don't understand that thorium does more damage then they'll use graphite. Average and better players will always use thorium. Fuse: Newer players will usually use titanium despite generally not being a good idea. Average players will use thorium but sometimes they'll go with titanium if they haven't read how much better thorium is. Cyclone: Everyone uses metaglass unless they want to make surge+water. Scatter: Newer players will use scrap or lead, not knowing about or too lazy to make metaglass. Average and better players will use metaglass. Ripple: Newer players will use graphite, maybe using silicon until they realize it's horrible. Average players use graphite and occasionally plastanium but usually no. Better players use plastanium. If any of this is wrong I apologize, I am only speaking of personal experience and watching other ppl play also a lot of this is outdated considering I haven't touched this game in the past 1.5 years so yeah, I apologize for any wrongs and if I somehow offend anyone.