9:35 I think the reason the suit-up scene retains so much "umph" is because we get to truly see the hero being self-created in front of our eyes. Others like Thor, Hulk, yaddayadda are usually introduced with "they ARE super." But Tony created his super. gosh i love this movie
I mean, the only reason we didn't get to see the creation of the Hulk in the MCU is because Ang Lee's Hulk had already done it. Though Bruce didn't intentionally turn himself into the Hulk.
Hulk was not introduced as super... this Hulk is a continuation from Hulk (2003, not produced by Marvel) with his origin story followed up by a soft reboot in The Incredible Hulk (2008) which was produced by Marvel, Abomination from The Incredible Hulk is in Shang-Chi, the only big difference is that Banner is now Mark Ruffalo and the new ones have much better graphics.
You guys acting like Tony's ascent to superpower was all his doing is the saddest/funniest thing I've seen all day. Reading the Forbes 30 under 30 must be a BLAST for y'all.
Yinsen: "Don't waste your life..." Tony 16 years later: *sacrifices himself to save the universe from the threat of Thanos once and for all* EDIT: 15 years later. Miscounted and my little brain can't handle numbers.
Two things you missed: The music that plays at the casino is an instrumental version of the 1966 Iron Man theme When Tony is under attack in the Humvee (shortly before he stumbles out of it and hides behind a rock), he asks that the soldier guarding him give him a gun, presumably to protect himself. This is an important moment-rather than duck and cover in cowardice or break down then and there, he wants to fight.
RogueVector Or Harley. I'd love to see either, both, or Rescue. Also, damn. Already with the spoilers😂. Not even a week, but if I were to watch it again, it would be my eighth time seeing it.
Something I admired so deeply in MCU's portrayal of Stark was his character development, you can actualy see, REALLY CLEARLY how he changed from IM1 to 2, to Avengers, to 3, Age of Ultron... Basicaly, you see Stark going from the egocentric playboy to someone scarred, careful and slightly paranoid but also traying his hardest to be responsible with such great powers in his hand.
a suit of armor thats stand as a small army on it's own, a generator on his chest with enough power to light up a city, several AI robots that are individual iron men on their own, the semi-leadership of a team of demigod-powered, yet unstable, people...
Omega Zultron And he's directly responsible for Ultron, who nearly killed everyone. He's at least partially responsible for Vision, a being whose power we haven't seen properly tested yet but he's pretty godlike. He has been on the point of saving and killing the entire human race in the Avengers movies so I think it's fair to say he holds a lot of power in his hands.
And in the Spider-Man Homecoming Trailer (second one), Peter says that he wants to be just like Tony, yet Tony says that he wants Peter to be better. Meaning he's learnt that he's more than the suit, and he wants Peter to learn that he's much, MUCH more than the suit.
@@Kendricklamarglazer17 arnim zola saved the universe by creating bucky who then killed tony's parents which then lead to tony creating deadly weapons which lead to him being captured and obadiah forcing him to make the original suit which in turn helps tony down the path of sacrificing himself to save the universe
biggest win: if this movie didn't do so well the entire MCU would of never existed, it would of been looked at in the same light as the X-Men and Fantastic Four movies, instead now we got a massive cinematic universe and it saved Marvel
Totally agree. That’s why to me, Blade and Iron Man are the two most important comic book movies to exist. Blade showed that you could adapt a story without it turning out cheesy and over the top (even if Deacon’s last scenes were a little hammy) and succeeded where adaptations like the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen had failed. Iron Man showed that you could create a Cinematic Universe unlike anything anyone had ever seen.
@@dancingcarapace I think Deadpool fills the third throne here, it's not the first r rated comic book movie, Blade wins that title, but it did popularize it.
And the sound of Tony hammering that metal for his first suit has lived on for 11 years to be synonymous with Iron Man. Even down to his last moments on screen
Yeah, I love how such a simple yet satisfyingly metal (pun intended) sound effect so perfectly encompasses an entire character to the point that the theatre started weeping again when they heard it.
"We're only here for a blip as it is. So make your time count." The MCU has been here since 2008 yet it feels like just yesterday that I first saw this movie. Time gone with a blip.
honestly, i'm a little disappointed by *"Tony Stark built this in a cave!... WITH A BOX OF SCRAPS!" "Well, I'm sorry... I'm not Tony Stark."* not counting as a win
I like this line and I’ve never forgotten it. With just a short exchange, it drives home just who Tony Stark really is-something that Obadiah had clearly forgotten. He’d gotten used to pulling the wool over Tony’s eyes. But this line reminds Obadiah Tony's more than just an overgrown brat with some talent. Tony's brilliance is undeniable even against odds like being in a cave with a bunch of scraps. When that engineer responds, “Well, I’m sorry. I’m not Tony Stark,” for me, it just reveals that underneath everything that the world has judged to be an excessive waste of talent is a man who can do the incredible. Even Tony’s enemies credit him for that. There are many gifted people, but few are stronger than their weaknesses like Tony has proven himself to be. He doesn’t make excuses for himself when he knows he’s in the wrong. He shoulders the blame and actively tries to make things right. I think that’s part of his ego, but in this case, the ego is channeled toward conscience and accountability. Dare I say it? Tony’s ego, ironically, helps keep him on the side of good, even if his vices and virtues overlap. And what a fighting spirit! I can say the same about Cap, but Tony’s a builder, not a natural soldier. In fact, I think his cockiness and his sense of humor is an extension of the fight in him: he suffers from anxiety, guilt, and paranoia, and yet he can still crack a joke. It takes a lot to take him down, but it takes so little for him to get back up (so far). He’s Tony Stark. He’s Iron Man.
I think that's part of the thing, Obadiah has never understood what tony was capable of, his goal has always been to exploit Tony's genius and Howard's legacy, and as such he has in many ways limited Tony sought to keep him distracted. Tony doesn't just create the ironman suit he creates a whole new technological paradigm, in the marvel universe he is the the greatest technological game changer since Michael Faraday. Except maybe Wakanda all the high tech in later movies derive from Tony Stark's designs. Ha the last king of Wakanda got to have been pissing himself when Tony Stark pretty much caught up with 90% of their technological superiority in less than a decade.
None of that technology was used how it was originally designed. They wanted him to build a Jericho missile out of less advanced missiles that they already had. He then took those missiles, dismantled them and made them into a completely new technology. He took chemical propelled guided missiles and created a prototype nuclear fusion powered armor, in a week, with a gun to his head, and only a medical physician as his assistant. Tony Stark miniaturized a nuclear fusion tokamak and invented an entirely new military technology, in a cave in Afghanistan with no computers and some stolen standard military tech, in a week. Obadiah was complaining that with the full resources of Stark Industries at his disposal that engineer couldn't just miniaturize the already existing giant size arc reactor.
@Servine Except with Cap's case. Still crazy how we all were tricked into thinking Steve was the who would die because Chris Evans was leaving. But what we got was COMPLETELY unexpected.
“Doesn’t look like we’re getting iron man 4 any time soon” Actually, I choose to believe that Endgame is Tony’s 4th movie. A lot of it does revolve around him. He had a family and was roped back into the fight to save everyone, he solved time travel, got some 1 on 1 time with his dad and gave his life for the universe. A lot of Endgame revolves around Tony so I’d say it’s his movie just like how Infinity War was Thanos’ movie.
@@bansheeara yeah he did solve time travel, It was scott's idea but Tony was the one who figured out how to manipulate time in the quantum realm so they could go to whatever time they wanted.
I love that last line. "I am Iron Man." It completely pokes fun at every single other superhero movie, AND it's a really great character development for Tony.
That's one thing that I've found interesting about the MCU. It doesn't get hung up on all the "secret identity" trope that so many other comic book movies do. Everyone knows Tony Stark is Iron Man, Steve Rogers is Captain America. Even when it's not widely known (like Ant Man), they don't make a big deal out of it.
Experiments in Insanity That secret identity gig is a joke now anyway. In Dark Knight Trilogy they made it a big thing, "to protect people they love" and stuff then Batman had Rachel killed and had his house burned 2 times. In Batman v Superman both main characters and Lex were aware of secret identities without any explanation.
Reeves has not made Supes his own... he's the current face :P RDJ did make IronTony his own, You can't think Ironman or Tony Stark without thinking RDJ. You can't say the same for Reeves as Superman. Honestly, saying Superman is more likely to make people think Tom Welling vs Reeves.
Mike Dubo Wonder Woman certainly should not be included on that list because ANY talented actress could have done what she did. I'd even argue Gadot didn't do that good of a job in the movie. Patty Jenkins purposefully gave Chris Pine more lines than her so he could carry her. That would not happen if she had confidence in Gadot's acting chops. In conclusion, Gadot only got the part because of her looks and even though she was a serviceable Wonder Woman, many other actresses could have done just as well, if not better.
Fun for when you get to part 2 of Endgame (spoilers). "Is that Axe body spray?" "Yeah, I had a can in the disc for emergencies, relax." Continuity win to when Pepper had to stick her hand in the disc and her main comment was "Ew, it stinks!"
He said "I had a can on the desk", not "I had a can in the disc". I don't think he's particularly interested in making the inside of his body smell better.
I love that throughout the movie we see little bits where Tony forgets seemingly important things, like Pepper's birthday, a girl he once slept with and in following movies things like Pepper's strawberry allergy. It is also a common fan theory that Tony only remembers the board of directors by derogitory nicknames/division rather than their actual name. But then, during the interview after he gets home, he looks down at the reporters in the front row and nods to a guy inn the middle "Hey Ben." This is not a scientist he's been fangirling over (Dr. Banner), nor a woman he has slept with or is trying to sleep with. it is an ordinary MALE repoter and remown playboy Tony Stark, who can't remember his PA's birthday or that the one thing in the world she is allergic to is Strawberrys, shows he remembers this unimportant guy's name. it hints that he only pretends to forget things, as then is shown in IM3 when he pretends not to remember Maya Hansen until Pepper asks about her and he remembers he was doing something with plants despite his being so drunk Yinsen said "If i was that drunk i would not have been able to stand" Tony cares more than he wants us to think he does.
He does care more than he wants to let on. I think that's because that's safer. Because when people find out he cares about something or someone, that can be used against him.
Yinsen is definitely one of my favorite characters. I mean with no future ahead for him he helps a man regain his life for several lifetimes and tells him to do good with it. For me this is one of the best tony stark moments as he realizes that there is more to what he had but a man with nothing could give so much an opportunity c: great character there.
Nah man, it's just gonna be an entire film of pre-Iron Man Tony just bullshitting without an arc reactor or a suit for two hours straight, fucking around with Happy and just living his day to day life. I would actually pay to see a two hour movie of just Tony Stark being Tony Stark, and making dumbass jokes and flexing on everyone. ;D An origin story of an origin story?
God, looking back on this movie, I just want to give huge prompts to Jon Favreau for getting RDJ casted as Tony Stark/Iron Man. If it wasn't for him pushing so hard for this casting, the MCU would either look totally different or completely flopped with this movie. And Tony was a character not many would have called their favorite back in '08. But Tony really was the best character to start this whole journey with.
Especially with a lot of fans’ justified hang ups with Earth 616 (Main Universe) Tony Stark from the comics. He was known for being overly arrogant, completely full of himself and selfish. Tony Stark was never a truly good man. RDJ changed who Tony Stark was. Who Iron Man was. Much like how all the MCU cast has added layers to their characters that never existed before. Loki’s underlying yearning for Odin’s affections, how he was never truly villainous. In the comics Loki caused Ragnarok out of pure spite.
I really enjoy the Science/Engineering aspect of this movie. Being able to see a design and engineering model come to life and see the suits perform as designed is an engineers wet dream.
It did, he had a good reason to look forward to the interplay between Spider-man and Iron Man in Homecoming, Infinity War and Endgame. They had a great dynamic, even in the first half of Endgame (somehow).
That first Iron Man suit up is still so EPIC. So much better than all the future suit ups, even though they're more technically advanced. I could literally watch it 100 times in a row and not be bored.
I also love the special effects. Primarily the Iron Man suit. What many CGI artists will praise about it is the "grunge detail" on it(scratches, fingerprints, smudges, etc) that really help sell the illusion of a battle tested suit of armor. While the overall rendering isn't quite as good by today's standards, it still holds up really well because of little details like that that make it seem more real.
But wait I thought the watcher was only supposed to watch? Not actually interact with people. Wouldn't it make more sense for the viewer to be the watcher and Stan lee to be the one above all?
Can we just talk about how Clark Gregg, as Agent Coulson, turned the most 1 Dimensional character ever into 4 movie appearances and 7 seasons on TV. That’s impressive as hell
Iron Man was the only comic book I ever read. And when this movie was announced, me and my friend who also read the comics went to see it. And I LOVED how they modernized his origin story without really loosing anything. I loved this movie and I never fell out of love with how Marvel told Iron Man's story in the MCU.
Iron man loses someone close to him after going through a hardship, tries to solve a solution to a problem after being faced with a new grim reality, uses that solution to right the close persons death, has his power slip through his hands as his enemy takes use of it, fights said enemy, and sacrifices himself to save others. Iron man has had the same plot in both his beginning and end. We love him 3000 RIP
The fact that he is constantly handed things to sign before he becomes a prisoner and after he changes to “I don’t like being handed things” is such a small but amazing detail. I love that we can see that Tony’s imprisonment affected every aspect of his life and that’s such a ringer for how devastating and far reaching trauma is
It's really fun looking back on this film, knowing what it would lead to. It led to the rise of Marvel Studios, saved RDJ's career, paved the way for the MCU, introduced the shared cinematic universe concept, made Iron Man an A-List superhero, and made Marvel super heroes mainstream. This one film accomplished so much.
Fun fact about that product placement bit near the end: Downey Jr has said that one of the events that got him to clean himself up and get help was having a really awful burger out of Burger King while under the influence. Likelihood is that Burger King was included in there for that reason, but who knows.
"Definitely doesn't look like we're getting an Iron Man 4 movie anytime soon." "I'M REALLY LIKING THIS DYNAMIC BEING CREATED BETWEEN IRON MAN AND SPIDER MAN THOUGH"
*SPOILERS AHEAD* I didn't realise Happy Hogan was in Iron Man... I just thought he was a new minor character in Spiderman Homecoming. Now the quote " I've been carrying aroung this engagement ring since 2008" makes more sense... I'm an idiot.
@@isdrakon9802 I feel they are trying to compensate for losing some of their best actors and actress. Since Tony is gone their trying to bring in Riri Williams aka Iron Heart. Aka the terrible attempt at Marvel trying to be diverse
Listen to all the wonderful noises that the suit makes from 9:30 to 10:25 The sound design in this film was utterly magnificent, and it deserved the Oscar nod it got.
When I watched Iron Man after Endgame that part always makes me laugh because it reminds me of a video I watched of a man sat on the toilet get dragged through the wall just like that scene
Having spent the last few months constantly geeking out over audience reactions to "I knew it!" and "On your left...", I am so, so thankful for this movie, that started it all off. What a story MCU has told. What. A. Story.
Last month, Iron Man was added to the National Film Registry. A library preserving the absolute apex of American cinema. And I'm so glad that this happened. The MCU has officially been recognized as a significant part of cinema history. Iron Man's now up there with the Wizard of Oz, Psycho, the Lord of the Rings, Snow White, Shrek, Gone With the Wind, Star Wars, and countless others as among the greatest films of all time. And it's so cathartic seeing Iron Man up there. Who knew that the film would be the catalyst for arguably the biggest franchise in movie history when it came out? But here we are. And for its efforts in laying the groundwork for the MCU, Iron Man deserves its status. Also, it gives me joy to see Iron Man be inducted into the film registry at the same time as the Little Mermaid.
My choices: 1. Captain America 2. Dr. Strange 3. Deadpool 4. Iron Man 5. The Avengers Honestly, they are all close, and there aren't any "bad" ones that come to mind.
I'd go with: 1. Captain America: Civil War 2. Guardians of the Galaxy 3. The Avengers 4. Captain America: The Winter Soldier OR Iron Man (Both equally good in my mind) It's hard to pick, honestly. I like them all.
You know what I just realized I like especially more about these videos than the sins videos? At the end of the videos, you give general thoughts that relate to the movie as the whole. You don't limit yourself to individual moments and scenes like Sins does. It feels like a genuine review.
one thin i don't know if you knew but during the scene where RDJ leans how to fly upon building the Mark 2 the director said that instead of putting the cables on his wait where his center of gravity is, he put them on both his wrists and ankles to make the struggle of flying more believable
When I took my oldest son (11 at the time) to see this on a Friday night we were blown away , Saturday he said “Dad , let’s go see IronMan again” I was all like ,,,, OK
I think you should do the Amazing Spider-Man films and here is why: 1. It's only two movies, so you will be done quicker. 2. The Amazing movies are more recent. 3. The Raimi Trilogy gets more praise anyway (except for SM3), while the reboots get much more negative backlash as I noticed, so I think the Amazing movies need some positivity, while the trilogy already has the nostalgia.
2:56 "MCU tony is more devil-may-care than comic tony" *Cut to the comic where comic tony literally fires a fucking nuclear drill into the earth just because he wanted to see what was at the core*
Also at 9:44 I absolutely love this suit up scene simply because it shows just how much of a genius Tony is. He trusts his equipment because he knows that he made it to perfectly fit him. All it would've taken for this to end poorly for him is one body part an inch off course, one flinch, one wrong number in the programming, or even just a slight head tilt and he would've been seriously hurt. Tony knows and trusts his technology because he made it himself, and it shows alot for the character.
The Barneys ex girlfriend Nora comment was perfect and it was exactly what I thought of when I saw her there. Love it. Plus CinemaWins watches How I Met Your Mother. Anybody else hear the ding of the win count going up there.
Man, watching CinemaWins is such a relaxing retreat. You get to enjoy the movie more at times, but most importantly, the voice of the narrator fan-boying over some good cinematography is just a pleasure to hear and watch. Compared to CinemaSins, although some snarky remarks about the movies are funny, Cinemawins just gives more light and positivity to the subject. Thank you for your hard work and please continue making more of these.
I love this film and it will always be my number one MCU film, no matter how good any of the future MCU films are. Robert Downey Jr. is Iron Man and I wouldn't have it any other way. One of my favorite moments of the film that CinemaWins didn't win was when Tony says "How did you solve the icing problem," cause in that moment Tony truly gets to rub in Obadiah's face about how his suit had something that Obadiah's didn't, especially considering how much Obadiah was bragging about how advanced his suit was. I love the win where Jeff Bridges gets credit for being a menacing, or at least a creepy villain, by invading personal space. I especially was LMAO when CinemaWins enfasizes that with the shuddering sound. In my personal opinion, this movie gets a win for introducing me to the Audi R8, which I had never known about until I saw Tony driving one. It is still to this day my second favorite car ever. I also have a slightly off topic comment about Agent Coulson. Throughout all his time in the MCU films and Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Coulson has barley changed in terms of his personality and overall character. I like how the writers and Clark Greg himself have kept the character as one of the most consistent in the MCU, despite all the change going on around him. I'm not saying that I completely hate change or that I completely like it either, but it is nice when you can get some consistency with some things, or in this case people. And even though Tony has changed quite a bit since this movie, he still has some classic elements to his character that I never want to change, such as that sarcastic, dead-pan, sense of humor, that he keeps up during all his MCU appearances. Please MCU writers, never change that about Tony.
OG Raimi series. And defending the awful dancing down the street is easy - Peter Parker is a socially inept nerd, he has no idea what being cool is and without any social development gains ridiculous levels of confidence, so does what he thinks is cool
That's what I always thought when watching this scene and I think that's what they wanted to pass. I know everybody in my theater laughed at it and can you really ask more?
I still want to see HOW he can defend ASM, especially ASM2 with it doing the very thing SM3 was criticised for; ASM1 was a bit more similar in that like SM1 and SM2 it had a single villain, so I'm interested to see how he might justify the sudden implosion of plot that led to them going from just 1 villain in a movie to 3 within its immediate sequel (besides simply wanting to set up the never-made "Sinister Six", that is...)
+Cinemawins 8:32 Actually the theory is that Stan Lee is playing the roll of "The One-Above-All". An infinitely powerful god who could erase thanos in the blink of an eye, who also happens to look like Stan Lee and is blatantly just self insert. This theory was confirmed for me personally when Stan Lee made his cameo in deadpool, because he didn't make deadpool; Rob Liefeld did.
It's not about characters Stan Lee created, he gets the cameos because he's the one who (along with Jack Kirby) created the _whole company_ of Marvel. In a sense, that _does_ mean Stan Lee is literally the One-Above-All for the Marvel Universe, but that doesn't mean that's who he is in the movies, and him having a cameo in Deadpool certainly doesn't confirm anything.
That's entirely a fair point, starting with the heavy hitters of marvel like Thor and iron man was a logical starting point along with being characters he made so he could very well have been in them as "the guy that made marvel" not just "the guy that made these specific characters" and I wont deny for a second that these theories are grasping at straws but isn't that what makes them fun?