Everything WRONG with Resurrection F 

I can understand that

I definitely agree though

I feel like things have evolved from people not liking Toriyama being disrespected (which is totally fair) to people not tolerating criticism of his work in any way and using his death as a shield. I personally find this (the people using his death as a shield part, not talking about you criticizing the movie) more disrespectful toward Toriyama. Don't use his name as a shield, that's gross.

Akira Toriyama clearly forgot most things he wrote in Dragon Ball Z. Everything in Super make no sense whatsover

@@tqhung166 fair enough

Me bro I love goten but he's just a foil now

its actually so boring now. it sucks cuz gotenks is genuinely a cool character with different moves but is just reduced to fodder...

It’s funny how Goku is so focused on having Gohan surpass him, but completely ignores Goten, the youngest Super Saiyan in history, especially when Goku was already training Gohan by Gotens age

​@@UNALLOYEDSLOPhe fucked up during cell saga with Gohan as a father so he didn't make that "mistake" again

I have an idea for how to make them relevant again.

Definitely

@@Mintplayz-m8g I especially like watching the version of Cooler’s Revenge that has all the licensed American music in it

@@jeromebuck9279 If u like cooler then your gonna get this reference. COOLA COOLA NO BROTHER FRIEZA

@@Mintplayz-m8g Yeah I got the reference

i like Frieza vs Goku in resurrection F more than Goku vs Cooler tbh. Golden Frieza is a great transformation and Vegeta finally got the spotlight, I really don’t understand why people hate the fight so much.

Hopefully super hero changes that for good

Agreed.

​@@maganhassan2627Gohan admitted he secretly trains during his fight with mui goku.its incredibly inconsistent given his previous feats earlier in the movie such as not sensing piccolos ki

@mafuyu2007 well gohan always has potential even if he's rusty right? 🤷‍♂️

@@maganhassan2627”Gohan’s reached his full potential!” *gets folded* “gohan’s reached his full potential again!” They keep using the same excuse. It’s very boring, uncreative and lazy.

I can’t believe that the Piccolo in Resurrection F is the same Piccolo that squared up to Android 17, Second form Frieza, and imperfect Cell

Piccolo and tien is always weaker then gohan while they train everyday and gohan works at home

I agree every character was ridicously weak aside from frieza and his minions. Piccolo power is tied to gohan somewhat in super (anime at least) Before the tournament piccolo was keeping up whit a somewhat in shape SSJ2 Gohan

do you really think they used logic after so many years of Piccolo not fighting. You have to remember we didn't see his feets in the God movie, so this was the first time they wrote for him for a while.

Great catch I forgot about that.

Probably training to get 100 percent. Power

Tbf he never states it was during training. All he says is Goku was the first to injure him besides his parent(s)

​@@blackopspro6455 Exactly. The manga checks out on that.

Don't you also think it's weird how he developed all his techniques without training? He can lace winds with his breath, fire multiple blasts from his aura alone, trap opponents in an explosive ball of ki... Heck he even has telekinesis. Granted most of these characters from space probably never trained much since they are overwhelmingly powerful, so it makes sense how he couldn't sense ki.

Facts. The power scaling was trash. Im not even huge on it, but it even annoyed ME lol.

Minions casually being scaled around Majin Buu just released amount of dmg is wild

I agree, these guys were considered literal fodders in Namek, even the weakest Z fighter should be 20x times stronger

He trained with goten a little so it can be assumed he didn’t completely give up training. But he clearly did during that year

And he said it himself

@@tobisthebest5013 dragon ball ball super is confusing, The writers don't know who is stronger than who at all.

@@Vexatiousproblems funny thing is they don’t have to watch the anime to get caught back up on everything. There’s only 26 volumes of DBZ manga. Maybe about 30-60 minute read each. They were just too lazy to read it.

Like why would you bring master roshi before bringing goten and trunks?!?!

@@Jhappy the crazy thing is there excuse was so they don't be in danger yet Bulma is there. Now that is just bad writing

That seems like a non issue. Nothing suggests he needs to go through stages rather than his final form because then his body would just transform directly to the final form not cycle through all his forms

Head-canon wise, I view Freeza's forms as "A Shell", partly spawned from years and years ago in Budokai where he literally entered a shell to transform. The Power Limiters are all part of the same shell, but they are different layers of it. With sufficient training, it should be possible for Freeza to, at any point, power up and simply shatter the shell, going right from any Power Limiter to his True Form. However, this is only possible with training; mental, spiritual, and physical. For someone who has never trained in his life, it should take him months alone to be able to do this, never mind gain any power. And even when trained, like in the movie, it takes about 15 uninterrupted seconds. It's not instant by any means. However, outside of having training, it makes no sense for him to be able to do this. I had this long winded arguement with someone once who was convinced that because the manga doesn't have a literal countdown on it, you are supposed to assume everything is happening really fast. So, in this guy's mind, Freeza's transformations were all effectively instant. But they really, really, really aren't. They take minutes on end before his training, and also before said training he has to take the shell down layer by layer - he has to go through first, second, third and finally his fourth forms. Or like you said, he could "pull a muscle", and effectively hurt himself, greatly lower his max power, etc. I don't care if there's not a time frame on-panel in the manga. The things the characters are doing take time. No one is fighting while Freeza transforms, it shouldn't be assumed that it's really fast, especially with how agonising it seems to be for him. In short, I agree mostly, but I think that with months of training SPECIFICALLY for it, Freeza being able to go right to his final form could make sense. But then, nothing about Freeza post-revival into modern dragon ball makes sense. Honestly I feel like with a decade of Hyperbolic Time Chamber training, he should MAYBE have gotten to the point of being able to fight Kid Buu evenly. There's no world in which he should be able to even force Goku or Vegeta to TRY after a few months.

whis is allowed to time travel

That's what I was gonna comment, Whis as an angel has to be a neutral party. Allowing Goku to go back in time to kill Frieza is *very* clearly taking sides. Why is he allowed to do this consequence free and moreover, why didn't they just let Vegeta kill Frieza.

Sage has some good points. 😂 Now I was gonna keep the portion of the video when I mentioned Whis not being allowed to tamper with Mortal affairs. However, when I went back to read, Whis mentioned that FIGHTING was the only thing that would get them erased for good.

True but u gotta look at it from their standpoint they only did the 1 time favor as for their own selfish reasons cus if they just allowed the earth to blow up they wouldnt get the earth food they so fondly love so take that as wat u will lol

@@justinsden Well if they clarified it, that's my b but it does still feel a little weird to use Whis' angel powers in this manner especially when you have the perfectly fine (better) ending that is Vegeta killing Frieza.

Vegeta should’ve but he took too long and Frieza pulled out the rage quit technique

Vegeta had every right to take his time I mean Frieza destroyed his home world and became his slave but vegeta revenge wasn't satisfied to me Vegeta deserved to kill frieza not goku But hey Future Trunks which is vegeta son got to kill Frieza first so yeah

Sure but I don't think that would make the movie better, at all

"nope can't have that, Goku is our main character so he gets all the kills."

I'm gonna be honest, the writers probably forgot piccolo can change clothes.

Time traveler

Dammit kakarot, kill stealing is not cool

he had to steal the kill Frieza pulled the rage quit technique

He’s about to “get my get back on Frieza”???? Did you have a stroke while typing this comment.

Frieza got lucky Majin Boo hasn’t wiped floor with him

Lol I STILL wanna see your video bro. We all have different ways we view the movie! 🍿 I appreciate you watching fr!

I’m praying that Toyo does right by him.

Don't worry, we won't. We never will.

He does a lot in Superhero, you should check out the manga/movie if you get a chance

@@oneboxboi1091 I know, thats why I said in the future chapters, cuz we got him being smart recently and it’d be nice if we kept seeing that, thanks though!

if an enemy has a lot of weak support characters then piccolo could finally shine again.

"OhhHhHh, thank you videl for this book! This is gonna help me so much with my research 🤓🤓"

*pulls power out his ass for the nth time* yes, gohan is so back. This has never happened before

Yes, it's terrible, only the animation is good. At the very least, Gohan should have gotten frieza to gon to final form. I'd then understand freiza beating him so easily.

we don't want him at the top above Goku, we just want his power to make sense. Both cases are either too strong or too weak.

@@TheUltimateRarebut the problem is that his power didn't make sense in the movie

Everything was wrong with it. The end.

what is this bio broly u speak off? there are only two Broly movies, one in Z and one in Super

​@@sharangcooldon't watch bio broly I beg you

LOL if you guys really want that I got you.

​@@justinsdenur a legend for enduring the horrors that is bio broly

Unfortunately Trunks prolly woulda lost 😂

Future Future Future Trunks got you covered

@@justinsdencap

@@JustxLiving909 they need to have goten in the story more. they could be the best side characters

1. For marketing since if they threw a new villain each time it would get kinda old if they had no idea how to make the new villain impactful 2. Actually that one I cant say much on lol yea blue goku should've beat the absolute shit out of golden frieza hands down 3. Yes vegeta was robbed of that W so this one I also cannot say much on 4. Again I cant say much other then the staff of the series has to always have the mc getting the W's so... yea

U forgot one part: Gohan and picollo fumbled so hard, like how did they get demoted to yamcha levels

The other points I forgot about goku losing to a beam and the whole "whis and beerus should not intervene in this affair" as stupid as it is... it's been shown time and time again in the series that goku being off guard (which its dumb plz dont come at me for this blame the staff) apparently is the only way to beat him whether to actually hurt him or kill him As for the other lol its very simple beerus and whis did this "favor" for their own selfish reasons cus think about it they cant have delicious earth food if there is no earth right?

@@RealLostApoc that I cannot actually defend nor explain lol piccolo shouldve whooped all the frieza force members by himself whether he does a special beam cannon hellzone grenade or the demon explosive wave either way theres no excuse for piccolo as for gohan though.... I mean they did say he hasnt trained in some time so yea.... blame the writing for gohan's character

@@onepieceking1770 yea bcuz picollo when fused with nail could go toe to toe with 2nd form Frieza and go toe to toe with imperfect cell when fused with kami. So idk how he can’t even handle a zarbon/dodoria level soldier

Lol imo the manga is typically better than the anime. Maybe if this was adapted like the rest it would have been better there.

@@justinsdensame, hell I rewatch your Super Manga summaries more than I rewatch the anime 😂

LOL Im not even shocked

Same

Thank you bro! Whats funny is I never paid attention to it much either until I went back and really watched it. It was so strange to see everyone struggling 😂

Also this "Prodigy" boost ruins Vegeta, he was considered a prodigy since he surpassed his father as a kid, why isnt he leagues above Goku despite them training equally?

@@Collofkidseditz Well, Vegeta was just born super strong and until Whis wasn't quite training in the best possible way like Goku does taking in lessons and advice from many masters. It's impressive Vegeta could come close to Goku everything considered so I guess he's a prodigy. And then frieza is ultra super prodigy or something

@@bipstymcbipste5641 Why doesnt Vegeta surpass Goku tho by a lot? His potential should be way higher

Thank you bro!

I cant argue with the fact that it came outta virtually nowhere lol

@@justinsden Watch him stop training again in the next couple arcs

We need a super hero type film for the human fighters like a transformation only for humans based on god ki

I’ve heard this take before tbh. I like Frieza. They just butchered the approach in Resurrection F.

Thanks so much my guy! I hope you’ve been having a good day!

Lol no problem bro. Same I love Dragon Ball, but I feel like it would be a disservice as a fan to blindly give positive feedback to a movie that I know could have been better.

Was filler tho

Filler nonsense doesn't count.

Oh sorry like when Goku’s ki was surpressed and a bullet scratched his forearm. There’s also the instance where vegeta lowered his ki so Krillin could damage him on namek.

Yeah no Nobody I mean nobody wants to draws those spots on cell everytime Frieza makes more sense

Perfected black cell would’ve been dope

@@JustxLiving909why it be black cell that makes no sense

@@kaidenjohnson2624 oh no the tragedy of getting paid for a good character. Just make him full green or some bs

@@TheReZisTLust he already is green

GT ssj4 best form IMO

YESSSIRRR 🔥🔥🔥 You’re welcome! Keep up the great work!

Much appreciated my guy. Yea It was crazy cause when I watched it again I thought about it. 😂

Wdym

@@Multiversal2010not even gonna tell you

Fr

How about just enjoying the content and stop comparing other youtubers

Corny

LOL

Exactly. I also think rather than introducing Super Saiyan Blue, Frieza should have been put up against Super Saiyan God. It would have made a lot more sense for that form to have been used more. (Thanks for donating again!!)

@@justinsden NP, Thanks for putting out the great content. Also, I always wondered why they didn’t put a transformation in between God and Blue. Instead of having Goku and Vegeta go Super Saiyan Blue, have one of them use an “ascended” version of Super Saiyan God, which would actually be Super Saiyan God but the red hair is raised up like Super Saiyan 2 or something like that

I agree

Lol thank you bro 😂. I gotta be honest about this movie. I’ll definitely do more videos like this with probably every arc so far.

That's always a writing thing that's gonna always annoy me when I see it in DB. When things only get worse specifically because Goku and/or Vegeta got on their high horse again and allowed their foe to get a boost in their desperation and complacency. That ends up happening again both times in the Moro arc.

I don't even know if it's overconfidence cause Goku just doesn't wanna kill and Vegeta just wants to satisfy himself but people ignore that cause Goku got the kill, I guess

LOLLL

Then trained with king Kai Learnt spirit bomb and kioken Trained until the android saga too

Facts

He shouldn't have fucked it up then, he's the one who chose to do a cool line before dealing with him. This is just a common Vegeta screw up.

⁠@@nicholas2153 Did you forget that Vegeta is a fictional character? His actions are chosen by the people who’re making the story

@@soggybozo1515 Then why does Goku get blamed for kill stealing? Also posturing like that is totally a Vegeta thing to do

The Z Fighters surviving the Cell Jr's yet struggling with Namek fodders is insane, one Cell Jr would beat all of Friezas soldiers at once with no difficulty

You’re welcome bro! Not sure, but I’ll figure it out soon.

Lol I had it set as premiere but changed my mind. U probably liked it then. Thanks bro. This movie had so much potential. Sucks it wasn’t executed well.

@@justinsden That it was, wondering if I was losing my mind.

If there’s anything about DB that I hate, it’s the fact that people DON’T STAY DEAD. Nearly every villain comes back whether it’s as a good guy, or just back to fight again. It gets ridiculous and pretty stale. There was absolutely no reason for Frieza to come back

@@OnlyDarien I can understand that