@@Donaliam USA outlawed whaling in 1971.....a world-wide ban on whaling was effected in 1986 (although ignored by some countries). ST IV "the one with the whales" was released in 1987....topical and good timing considering the world-wide ban of the era.
It's been stated that it helped quite a bit actually. Bringing the plight of the whales to the forefront of world awareness. But laws are what laws are.
The scene with Scotty at Plexicorp has been an inside joke between my dad and I for over 30 years. Dad stills picks up a mouse and says into it “hello computer” or whenever he sees a piece of plexiglass or acrylic he taps it and exclaims with a surprised tone “transparent aluminum?!” I’m 44 years old and can’t stop giggling.
"You mean I have to die first in order to discuss your views on death?" Always loved that line! Bones was always funny throughout the series and the movies!
@@centuryrox It's still one of my favorite lines. Bones had a way of cutting to the heart of things with humor, or sometimes exasperation, that never fails to make me smile.
what@@FlameOnTheBeatsaid. I remember growing up hearing about how all these whales were endangered, but look them up now they are "least concern", so something must've worked!
@@FlameOnTheBeat Yep, I heard of an incident back in 1986 where a spaceship buzzed a whaling ship in the Bering Sea, now whalers the world over are too scared to hunt. Hence the survival of the humpback.
The exterior scenes with the aircraft carrier were of the USS Enterprise, but the interior scenes were filmed on the USS Ranger. My dad was assigned to the Ranger during the filming and got autographs from the cast.
15:58 To be fair, in TNG Scotty admits that he would often exaggerate the time he needed to fix something so he would look good when he completed in less time than estimated. I think Trekkers called it the "Scotty Principle".
I am very happy and want to thank you, Jeremy, for turning your sights on more classic movies, instead of digging up the most obscure current ones. It is more fun to know the story and reminisce with others in the comments about the movies that shaped us.
Yeah I enjoyed this one a lot more than all the recent movies they've done that I didn't know existed because they mean nothing to me. The outtakes on this one are brilliant too.
You know, the best part of the Doc Brown "outtakes" you tacked on is that both time-travel movies are using a vehicle (previously) owned by Christopher Lloyd.
Y'know, it's funny: in the original script, the transparent aluminum thing was going to be one of the questions the computer asked Spock to prove his memory was intact, identifying the guy Scotty was talking to as the one who invented it, before they went back. One little funny cut that should've probably been left in,
And my girlfriend was never a trekkie loved this movie! Showed me years later " guess what they invented? " ...wait for it... Transparent friggin aluminum!!!
@@sandal_thong8631 The novels are made with material not only it was in the movie, but was cut from the movie. noticed, the novelization isn't as funny either. they weren't going to have it. be funny but that's the last couple of movies and looking at the situation enough, well... the topic of work the comedy in and make it good. and they did.
20:02 All she says about her new post is "science vessel." She doesn't happen to specify "space vessel" or other. I always figured they gave her a specialist post on a boat to follow the whales around. (Or maybe even a low orbital vessel is well-suited to the job.) If that's her uniform tunic, note it's not too close to any Starfleet uny we've seen!
This movie came out when I was a kid and I have seen it countless times and never once did I think Scotty’s comments about Klingon food giving him a sour stomach meant that he actually tried eating their food. Considering Klingons eat living creatures, I always assumed looking at them and the idea of eating them made his stomach feel sour. But your idea is interesting too. 😉
As a true Scot, he has eaten haggis, so he figures a bunch of heathen Klingons have nothing to teach him about dodgy food choices. Besides, sometimes if you're marooned on the moors, you may have to eat your bagpipes, so again, he should have had nothing to fear.
James Doohan was a guest on a local morning news program when he was making an appearance at a local convention. Same morning they had someone showing off various recipes using Spam, including "Spam sushi" (which we now call musubi). Doohan, still hanging around on the set, was shoveling the stuff into his mouth with both hands.
@@dadoctah I saw him at a convention and he stated how much he couldn't stand William Shatner. Also, his favorite Scotty line is from this movie: "Admiral, there be whales here!" I got to hear that live.
Back when I was in the Navy I talked to a lady, a dependent, who had been there when the cast and crew were filming this movie. She said that William Shatner was a really funny man. She also told me that everyone you saw that were extras were ordinary people that the production studio had to include in SAG so that they could be seen in the film.
There is the story about the one woman who does talk to the crew when they are looking for the navy base it was an adlib part she wasn't meant to say anything she was only there because her car got towed to make room to film and she needed the money to pay the ticket
@@TheFallenFaob Funny, in a 'making of' vignette the crew said they were filming Nichelle and Walter interacting with the extras and the lady who said the missiles were probably in Alameda was not an extra; she was a woman on the street who said a funny line. The crew realized she was NOT one of the extras and had to run after her with a release form si they could use the line in the movie!
I think anyone can be extras as long as they don't speak; I used to have friends that would show up as extras for filming around D.C. SAG shouldn't have anything to do with it.
You missed two amazing scenes involving Bones: one involving him meeting the lady on kidney dialysis and the other when he’s listening to the two doctors in the elevator and says it sounds like the Spanish Inquisition
Also the one scene where he explains to the doctors of the past in medical terms what the problem of that patient is and when his comrades ask he just says she has fart-problems, that shit is goddamn hilarious since you wouldn't expect such a cheap fart-joke in Star Trek, which makes it even double-hilarious xD
@@Justforvisit Regarding the scene where they roll Chekov out of the operating theatre and the guards are confused as to the patient's changed mentioned gender: I don't know whether it was in the us version but in the german version either Bones or Kirk quips that they did a gender affirming surgery on the patient (they called it differently then probably)
I love how all those ships and space stations lost power, but somehow the artificial gravity still worked. This is the most popular of the Trek films with non-Trekkies. With actual Trekkies, the most popular films are Wrath of Khan and First Contact. But all Trekkies love this one, too.
Not to mention life support and maneuvering thrusters, since without the thrusters the space stations would've been sucked into the planet's atmosphere by the gravity well. Also, apparently the probe was seriously messing up Earth's magnetosphere, causing that bad weather. But they seemed to ignore the fact that, without the magnetosphere functioning correctly, Earth would be bombarded by highly lethal radiation. So we would've either been killed by the radiation, or suffering from severe radiation poisoning. But hey, movies right? I love the movie, just as long as I leave logic at the door. Which, admittedly, I do for 99.9% of the movies I watch.
@@ChakatStripedfur The probe did do something to the ships' life support though. In an earlier scene, the captain of the USS Yorktown speaks to Starfleet command. He mentions (in the background while the president and admiral are talking) that non-essential crew were given sedatives to slow down the consumption of oxygen reserves and that their chief engineer was trying to deploy a makeshift solar array to generate power for their life support. On that note, why aren't starships already equipped with PV arrays on their hulls for this kind of situation? **ding!**
@@ChakatStripedfur Actually the space stations are in a presumably stable orbit, so while they would've had issues eventually, depending on the orbit they could've gone years, decades, maybe centuries without crashing into the planet. Skylab for example went unmanned and unfueled for 9 years before crashing from its relatively low orbit. Also, this is Star Trek, any non-lethal dose of radiation is like the sniffles.
My favorite sin not included in this: Kirk's forethought with his broken glasses. But why would Kirk even have his glasses... think about it, after the battle(s) with Kahn his glasses were broken. Then upon returning to Earth and disembarking from the Enterprise (which was to be mothballed - so take your personal effects) these glasses would have ended up in his home on Earth... however he, for some reason, decides to take these broken glasses with him while stealing the Enterprise. Takes the glasses with him when beaming down to the Genesis planet, fights a Klingon with these glasses on his person (remember the Enterprise has exploded in orbit). And then must have somehow brought them with him to Vulcan. For whatever reason Kirk then decides to take these glasses with him into San Fransico and then decides to sell them for money. This is by far my favorite sin, and it exists across all three of the films.
@@jonathanmarkoff4469 That pair of glasses only exists, then, in a causality loop, never having been manufactured in the first place . . . just coming into existence when Kirk (et al.) appear in the '80s outta nowhere, sells those glasses to the antique shop, where McCoy buys them (with newer replacement lenses) in the 23rd Century to give to Kirk, who brings them back into their Past in the '80s, etc. etc. It's a paradox!
Possibly Kirk had the lenses repaired sometime between Ii and IV, and that was when the lenses came into existence, so only the frames are a paradox. Note that Kirk seems to realize that he is creating a paradox, as indicated by the line, "And the beauty of it is, they will be again."
Also, how do you not take at least 5 sins off for this being one of the best Star Trek Films ever made? Also, the reveal of the Enterprise-A deserved at least a sin off. My older sister saw this film in the theater and nearly cried when that happened.
@@imkluu The only good Star Trek movies were Wrath of Khan, Voyage Home, and First Contact. All the others are filler, and J.J. Abrams never put his his lens flare in a Star Trek film.
Is anyone else disappointed that in "The Big Bang Theory" when Leslie called Sheldon a dumbass he never once said "Double dumbass on you!"? He supposed to be a Trekkie and never thought of that.
Okay, so they already have evidence that advanced beings (sometimes called the Preservers) have taken species from Earth and seeded them on other planets. They also have a theory of parallel planet development (see the episode Miri). So it's not that large of a leap to think Humpback whales (or a similar species) might exist on another planet.
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I thought Kirk was asking if there were whales on other planets because maybe a whale breeder took whales with them to another planet, or created them with genetic engineering or something. Might as well ask before time travelling!
My mom worked at Domino's and I can back this claim up. Although a lot of customers added sausage also. Which was laughed at because they had single letter abbreviations for toppings, so it was a PMS.
The transporter beam that's intended for 1, but another person jumped into the person's arms and gets transported actually happened on TOS episode "The Enterprise Incident" w/Spock and the Romulan Commander.
Exactly. The transporters of the Bird are at least good enough for a Klingon boarding team, so 2 humans won't exceed the payload. Two adult whales OTOH... maybe that's why they had to hover right on top of them? Maybe they had to sacrifice range to do that trick? IDK 100%, but I think the "
@@achtsekundenfurz7876 AFAIK, it's to ensure they get X number of people at the destination that they started with at the start. There was a chance of two or more getting "spliced" together. Like in "The Fly". As to the whales and water, it's the weight, and Scotty explains that in the movie.
Yep. This film's continuity was on point. The entire film is a sequel to City On The Edge Of Forever. Spock, Kirk and McCoy have already been to 20th Century San Francisco. That's why they're not exactly unfamiliar with it, they're just trying to figure out what's changed in 50 years. Kirk is also trying to avoid repeating his Edith Keeler tragedy in his dealings with Dr Taylor. Literally the reason he tells her everything this time.
@@colliric That episode was set in New York City ~1930. Also, they literally lived and worked in 23rd century San Francisco, at the Academy and Starfleet HQ. They've got some knowledge of historic layout like the bridge, and I bet things like parks are pretty likely to have been preserved over the centuries.
Something that always bothered me about this movie was how the probe and its origins never came up again. Where did it come from? Who sent it? How did they react to what George and Gracie transmitted? How would the Kelvin timeline change it’s interactions? It’s one of the great mysteries of Star Trek!
That my friend I think is best left for the mysteries, like the origin of the Borg or where V'Ger went to become self aware, what's beyond our galaxy, the origins of the xreature at the center of the galaxy in ST V. Although they would fill in great lore, I don't trust modern star trek writers to do any of these justice
@@sgtsnake13B So, ST:5 is actually outside of our galaxy.... The entity is known as "The One"... Beyond that, we know only of the Kelvans from our own universe/different galaxy. Star trek novelisations have often repeated the vast distances between galaxies are void of EVERYTHING; so no being, not even The One, is able to traverse them without risking it's existence somehow.
@@Blue84Stang Kelvans? I’m talking about the timeline created by JJ Abrams movies. Presumably the probe is still on its way and the Federation found Khan early, so did they find the probe early?
@@Gantros i was responding to SgtSnake's comment.... The Kelvans were the extra-galactic beings that kirk banged and scotty drank under the table... As far as the Kelvin timeline, one would assume that the probe saw the entirety of the Kelvin timeline, and nope-d right back to it's home planet...
I read where they actually was going to explore Sulu ancestry when they go back to Old San Francisco but the kid they got to play the part was so shy he couldn't say his lines.
At 12:53, this particular pizza-order scene always bothered me. Your comments made me laugh so hard I started crying and watched the segment over and over again, continuing to lose it every time. Brilliant.
Finally the long wait is over! I've been wondering why CinemaSins stopped after Star Trek III. I suppose it might be because Trek is saturating the market again like it did in the 90s, and it reminded them that there are still some movies in the franchise that have yet to be sinned. Either way, I'm looking forward seeing Star Trek V get roasted next. 🖖😎👍
The roast for Star Trek V should be almost as long as the film itself. Aside from the hilarious campfire scene ("I liked him better before he died!") and a few other bits, it's just so bad)) I can't wait for it.
Finally!!! Yes! The pizza thing always bugged even back when I was a kid. I just assume now the waiter was like "they mean just two beers and not two large pizzas and two beers" however the point about the pizza size is accurate. If that's a large, that place is a rip off.
When I first saw this movie, I thought the biggest sin (referenced at [19:20]) was that they went back to a time when humpbacks were being hunted nearly to extinction, and were probably pissed off about it, as opposed to going back to, say, the year 1000 A.D., when they could pick up a pair of carefree humpbacks, and ask them to do us a solid and talk to their people. (If they want to know why there were no humpbacks in the future, we could always refer to the tragic humpback plague of 1867.)
7:00 Kirk has been to a planet which somehow produced an exact replica of the Declaration of Independence through parallel development. Not to mention Planet Rome, Planet Nazi, Planet Mafia, Planet Old West, and probably some other worlds in the Paramount Backlot Galaxy that I'm forgetting. The idea that humpback whales might be interplanetary is entirely plausible in-universe.
The Mafia planet was only created after a book on the Chicago mobs of the 1920s was left there a hundred years prior, not via the parallel evolution thing that happened so often in Star Trek
When Gillian said she was going to her ship, she said it was a science vessel, not a starship, and she said that nobody else in the 23rd century knew anything about humpback whales. Clearly, she was going to work on an ocean going ship, quite possibly a submarine, to monitor and study George and Gracy.
The real mind **** is when you realize the whales were saved from being endangered, in at least some part, due to this misadventure of Kirk & Crew. So, in a way, the movie did kind of change the timeline.
I love the Monterey Bay Aquarium! The aquarium scenes were filmed there. I was very young when this movie came out. I have annual passes to the aquarium as an adult. Every time I go there I imagine the whales swimming around.
Remember this from Futurama: Nimoy "Melllvar, you have to respect your actors. When I directed "Star Trek IV", I got a magnificent performance out of Bill because I respected him so much." And then Shatner "And when I directed "Star Trek V", I got a magnificent performance out of me because I respected me so much." And you see Walter Koenig roll his eyes.
The Genesis planet wasn't created from a dead moon. It coalesced from the matter of the Mutara nebula, which was destroyed by the process (though conveniently left a star for the new planet). I assume the dead moon you referenced was Regula, which was nearby to the nebula but not turned into Genesis. As for why Genesis would a better staging ground than a dead rock for an invasion, well, it presumably has better resources to cull for fuel and weapons, not to mention it has a breathable atmosphere and can accommodate more troops than that moon could. Also, Ceti Alpha is a completely separate star system as well. Though, the fact that the Klingon ambassador is worried about Federation conspiracies to attack the Klingons is more interesting in light of Star Trek VI. If the paranoia over the Federation's supposed aggressiveness had reached such a high level of the Klingon government, it's surprising that there weren't more accusations of the Federation deliberately destroying Praxis as part of the supposed invasion plot the Klingons believe exist in this movie.
I always though the paranoia was really about the device itself, which if it hit a populated planet, would just kill everyone and rearrange the whole planet to some paradise with no people on it. Of course that's also why Kruge and Co were trying to steal it, to turn it into such a weapon.
it really haa to go to the attitude of the USSR vs the west at the time. late 70s, early 80s ussr was extremely paranoid against the west but praxis blowing up was a dead on reference to chernobyl which by them the USSR had turned more imward and was less paranoid about the west, though probably unlike the klingon empire, was because it had years left to live
I love that you love this movie too and replayed just the _opening_ three times. "Hmmm, that doesn't look right." *The One With the Whales.* Yes. Thank you for being a delight!
Nothing is said about Gillian becoming a science officer on a star ship. She just says that she's going to her "ship." Which probably means a sea ship where she'll be an advisor and resident whale expert. She won't be part of Starfleet.
The Klingons obviously rented a tape of Star Trek III to use in their evidence for their hearing against Kirk. Also not only was the Bird of Prey bridge redecorated it was apparently expanded too. In III it was cramped together, like a bridge on a submarine, but in IV the bridge is extra roomy and looks more like the Enterprise bridge.
They did spend about 3 months in exile on Vulcan. (Can't remember why.) And Scotty does like to tinker. Probably got bored one day and took the whole bridge apart and put it back together for shits and giggles.
No, no... it's ok to admit that it's flawed while still acclaiming it for being fun and great. Star Trek is about optimism, and this movie having mistakes while still being quite enjoyable is possibly why, despite being very stand-alone in its premise, it encapsulates Star Trek so well.
It's been noted that this movie actually helped save the whales by bringing attention to their near-extinction. That's why there are 130,000 of them now, 38 years after the movie, instead of an extinct species.
racism saved the whales it was mostly the japanese doing the bulk of the killing after we stopped using whale oil so the nuclear bombs had something to do with it
@@JohnyG29 they had tried to prove that whales were an important part of the Iron cycle in the oceans.. turns out the millions of tons they do recycle is negligible compared to everything else so I doubt whale farts contribute much.. but they do eat 5 to 10 tons of food a day.
This is basically my favorite Star Trek movie, so much so that when I was younger my brother and I would watch it so much that my parents literally had 2 copies on VHS and we'd watch one while they rewound the other! I still love it so, so much, and I do generally refer to it as "The One With The Whales", lol. And as a huge, huge fan who adores this movie... I agree with most of the sins. And I never noticed things like the ordering 2 large pizzas and getting a dinky single pizza! One you missed tho -- McCoy curing that one old lady [I think from kidney failure], who knows if she was meant to die there in the hospital and instead went on to accidentally hit someone with a car who was an important thread of history... Guess she wasn't important since Starfleet and Earth appeared normal when they got back, lol
Yeah, they did not order 2 large pizzas. Gillian asked if Kirk trusted her. He did so she ordered the entree. The waiter witnessed that exchange so there's no way they would assume Kirk was ordering yet another large pizza. "Make that 2" only applied to the drink.
At 13:08 where CS dropped the "What? TWO large pizzas? WTF Kirk? Can't you take a hint?!" line, I was immediately like "DUDE just take a look at Future Shatner in _Tek War_ ! He'll be the size of a Borg Cube by 2200..."
@@whiplashfatigue1430 Good job Spock. There's a cylinder thingy microwaving the Earth's oceans and you're looking up whales. You might have just led the cops right to us.
On the Dilthim crystal problem The way Scotty explains it it is implicit that their calculations were based on a crystal of Starfleet levels of purity and the Klingon crystals were of a less pure nature and so they forgot to take that into account when they time jumped I’m gonna have to takeoff those sins from that one.
“But also, very much the logical thing to do. I’m pretty sure leaving Chekov, dead or alive, in the 23rd century it’s nota smart idea.” Don’t you mean leaving him in the 20th century? Also, I can’t believe you missed the most egregious sin of the entire movie! After beaming up the whales, they immediately go to warp FROM WITHIN THE ATMOSPHERE! Scaling up the concept of drafting, where one vehicle can be pulled along behind another just by the changing air pressure caused by its movement, wouldn’t going to warp rip off a good portion of the atmosphere with them? They should have gotten back to their own time only to find that Earth had been devoid of life for 300 years already.
@@Azzameen99AZ, uh-huh. Like Marty McFly wishing he had more time to warn Doc Brown about the Libyan terrorists. “What am I talking about? I’m in a time machine. I’ve got all the time in the world!”
As I understand it, warp doesn't mean the ship is moving really fast, it means the ship is moving spacetime around the ship really fast. So, if anything, they should have taken just a warp bubble-sized chunk of the atmosphere with them, I think, which would rapidly dissipate once in space.
@@177SCmaro, it’s actually my understanding that they compress space in front of the ship while expanding space behind it, so it gets pushed forward. So maybe my first idea of pulling the atmosphere a la drafting is wrong. But considering the amount of expansion necessary to push the ship to light speed or more, it would still be pretty devastating to the planet that’s just a couple hundred feet behind them!
20:00 it's also kind of ridiculous that he has to be a captain to be out on a ship. There are numerous examples both in Star Trek and in real life of admirals still being out on a ship or in command
They even made a point several times how “captain” can be the designation of whoever the designated commanding officer of a ship is, regardless of rank.
Hell canonically Janeway became a Vice Admiral after Voyager yet she’s running a ship in Prodigy so it’s not even unheard of in Star Trek for admirals to captain ships
There were perhaps others on Earth who concluded that the call of the probe was whale song - similarly to our heroes - but Kirk and crew were the only ones ballsy enough to solve it via time travel.
Kirk asked if they concurred with his opinion that it was a probe to talk to whales. But they lost communication around that time. Of course maybe Star Fleet had become too militaristic and he couldn't do much to change it as an admiral. Still you'd think someone in the lab would have made the connection.
Another great video, but just one correction: the "weren't you blown up two movies ago" sin (Sin #26) is not a sin, as the U.S.S. Saratoga is of the same class (Miranda) as the Reliant blown up in 'The Wrath of Khan'. It's merely a re-using of a model, but not a sin. Therefore, the tally should be 137.
It amazes me how so many people don't understand the concept of a ship class. It's no different than how someone else can have the same car as you, make, model, year and trim even. Just about every real life navy ever has multiple ships for every class they commission.
Well, in defence of Trek, I would imagine the use of offensive terms is intended as a negative social commentary of the time, rather than a dent in Trek's core values. I mean, that guy is supposed to be a 'big bad paranoid backwards Earth man' character. It's not like it was Kirk or Scottie that said it, after all. Also, it has been years since I saw this movie, but I could have sworn that her expertise with whales is precisely why she got her position? So it's possible that science vessel was earthside, focusing on the oceans (I mean, they still need ships to get to required locations on the ocean, unless they don't mind transporting directly into the drink). BTW: My favourite Original Series movie.
Not only did this movie save the whales, but it resulted in scientists changing the diagnosis "mentally retarded" to "autistic," freaking out millions of parents as the number of autistic children diagnosis exploded in the 1990s.
@@dbseamz 15:30 You really had me watch most of this again to get to the r*tard scene? It's now a banned word on the SyFy channel and its showing of Quantum Leap. Get past my little joke.
@@sandal_thong8631 I was not asking you to rewatch anything. I was only curious about the impact that a movie I kind of liked had on the world at large.
*7:47** another example of Starfleets obsession/insistence and love of using Explodium in all starship work consoles and filling them with rocks of various densities and flammability*
You've got to remember that a lot of the stuff they did was typical for the 80's. Pocket Pagers were super expensive, and in all likely-hood, Kirk didn't know they had wireless communication devices like walkie talkies, or even that there were bathrooms (Enterprise only had 1 bathroom).
Love how the premise of this movie was basically just an excuse to demote Kirk from Admiral to put him back on the Enterprise where he likely wanted to be in the first place. My family owned all six movies, I probably watched this one this most. . .because at the time I could understand it. I really should just go re-watch the rest.
OMG just hearing Ian's and Deneé's voice in the intro gives me so much peace. I have never seen Star Trek but I've been listening to the podcasts since day one ❤❤❤
FINALLY. Favorite _Star Trek_ film, and the one that shut up all the haters who tried to blamed Nimoy for Star Trek III (blame the screenplay and not the director). Been waiting ages for CinemaSins to hit this one. Also, so what if it's an environmental activism film? Tough noogies. If anything, we don't have ENOUGH of those type of films _now._
This was one of the first vhs my parents bought way back in the late 80s. I have very strong memories of being 5 and organizing all our movies according to my favorite to least favorite. It's so weird to realize how long ago that was. Nothing really prepares you for getting old, y'know?
I am severely dissapointed in this particular episode. You HAVE TO TAKE OFF ONE SIN for Scottie giving the best time travel excuse: "how do we know he didn't invent the thing?"
Also, also Jillian didn’t say she was going to a starship as a science officer. She said she was going to a science vessel, which did not eliminate the possibility that she might be going to a 23 rd century sea vessel allowing her to monitor whales as well as educate 23rd century scientists about whales. She did asked Kirk who in the 23rd century knew anything about whales.
Saw this movie opening night, single seats only available, the guffaw from the audience when Spock cursed was almost as intense as me laughing at Dori's "whale talk". Oh the strange looks from my coworkers.