Everything You Can (AND CAN'T) Do In Safer Seas - Sea of Thieves 

but you didnt tell us if our gold from high seas carries over to Safer seas Im trying to earn my DA set in athena area, So does gold transfer back and forth cause if it doesnt then theres no use playing safer seas because it take a millenia to get Dark Adventurer

@@jerrad123able yes, of course

I didn't see you say you cannot raise emissary flags sir...

@@OldbonesxDI think he said you can’t

Based

This is literally my reason. I was always messed with when trying to do a Tall Tale. Or just overall being paranoid of being messed with.

This is literally my reason. I was always messed with when trying to do a Tall Tale. Or just overall being paranoid of being messed with.

I got attacked when I was working on the shores of gold and the pirate's life more then once, and almost every time it was periods when I had NOTHING worth stealing. It was infuriating, so I always did my tall tales during the hours when there were fewest players online, one of my strategies to play through the tales was deciding "will I need my ship for this one" and if the answer was NO, then when I got where I needed to go, I'd scuttle my ship and forget about it until the end when I or one of my crew would fetch the ship at the end.

if you have no loot and aren't a dick any decent SOT'r will let you continue , but i have boarded people screaming talltalers with loot stacks hidden lol, i got gold curse before checkpoints so its been really ch(easy) since

@@tomathecatgato2813 have you ever played skyrim? have you ever played dark souls? have you ever played a non-multiplayer game? minecaft surivival perhaps? have you ever stopped to realize how big games like these are? without any pvp involved. how not every single of the billions of people on this earth enjoy the same things that you enjoy? im writing all this meanwhile i'm probably talking to someone who has some sort of mental retardation and spent time in "special classes" judging by how stupid of a comment this is.

@@tomathecatgato2813 Boring for you but not boring for us. Past few days we've been happily just sailing around getting up to goofy shit that we couldn't do before. We don't need or want to be good at PVP we're happy just messing around

@@tomathecatgato2813 woahhhh dude ur a savage... not everyone wants to sweat out every single game they play. casual gaming is valid sometimes too lol.

​@@tomathecatgato2813You sound like my brother lol who you tryna show off to if you think other ppl care your good at a virtual game ur priorities need adjustment man enjoys pve you just mad your pvp servers dead asf and for later interactions try not to be passive aggressive it's not a good trait

If sea of thieves ic givign you anxiety, you might need to seek some medical help.

I'd like captaincy to be able to quick sell random loot but I started playing long before it was really hinted at so it gives me some nostalgic feelings needing to carry everything back to specific factions. I wish we got tomes still even if it was only 1 book from each set just for there to be more options to get doubloons for newer players with all reaper loot otherwise being removed.

shameful

@@handemorebattlelands4009 True, could be a little more convenient, but I agree with TKY the immersion of going to each faction post is cozy x3

They can leave the captaincy turned off. I'd just like to use my custom ship i worked so hard to get. Lol

It’s a community of gatekeepers and that includes Rare themselves. The shrouded ghost spawn rate is the perfect example. BoxyFresh and Beard two of the most watched SoT streamers have over 20,000 hours combined and zero shrouded ghosts. If that doesn’t make it obvious that Rare loves to gatekeep content then I don’t know what will.

Keep crying

​​@@ceeofdeezThe rarity of shrouded ghost is what's make it interesting tho, feels more pirate to have some ridiculously rare or hard things to get

Absolute facts. You said it.

​@@JulesVanBellelets see if you will sing the same tune once the game dies of that same attitude LMAO

Skill issue

@@lovewingsmc enjoyment issue. It may shock many people, but some players don't LIKE PVP. There are people who prefer all PVE or coop games. This provides opportunity for people who just want to play the stories, maps, explore and not have to be looking over their shoulder all the time.

skill issue @@Sumguyinavan_

​@@lovewingsmcVery constructive

skill issue@@FreakFrederick

That's a good mindset to have if you aren't setting out to do anything. Personally that doesn't work for me, getting sunk after a long voyage is just crushing.

@@Clown_the_Clown ima be honest, the way i've been enjoying pvp (granted i am a pvp player, so take this as you choose), but its more about the fight, sure if you have a bunch of loot i'll fight, but if you don't have much loot (~50k+, or emissary grade 3+), I roll on a "don't mess with me, i won't mess with you... much" (gotta do some trolling tho XD)

Good luck, What he didnt explain was if your gold transfers between high and safer to grind the hard sets and cosmetics people want.

​@@jerrad123ableyour currencies stay with your Pirate and aren't server based

Waiting 6 years to add an update a majority of the community were already asking for, isn't listening.

That has happened to me as well. Either way I did all my grind in the Roar all of it. And I can safely say I am an expert in the Roar. I been a pirate legend for over 3 years now. So having those rare solo servers back in the day was calming and felt nice.

The server I was in a few days ago was so dead I was able to solo a skull of siren song and only ever saw one crew in t&e distance

It always works like that til it doesn't.

Absolutely. They can't fathom that some people just don't want to deal with PvP.

tbf its marketed as pvpve, you don't go into another game which advertises that and complain that you're "forced" into pvp, its a part of the game. you lose the risk, you lose most of the reward.

​@@jjrulez1596 tbf despite being marketed that way, they constantly add things that are instanced PvE, like Monkey Island and Pirates of the Caribbean; so that point is completely moot. They clearly have no issue giving you things to do privately so long as there is no reward, which is the point OP made.

They're not being "spiteful" they're keeping to how the game is. It's a PvEvP game, you knew that when you got it, so you can't really complain

the game is called sea of thieves

Yup. Unfortunately so. Rare should have just made PvP toggleable.

@@Clown_the_Clown We can only hope their numbers show more in Safer Seas than High Seas. If even only to point and laugh. Bethesda learned it with Fallout 76. Turns out, majority of players did NOT want to roleplay as Raiders, choosing to roleplay BoS/NCR/Lone Wanderers in their PvPvE game.

@nerddotcom5817 I wouldn't count on high numbers. Me and my friends have been talking about coming back for safer seas for ages but none of them are willing to play this nerfed version. We work for a living and might get to play together a couple times a week. We don't want to spend that time running from A-holes who get kicks out of running other people's fun and it would take us years to level people on safer seas. They decided they would just play something more rewarding. I wish I could get back all the money I spent on cosmetics because I'm definitely not going to play without them or my custom ship.

@@draxxzakuto5735 There was a queue to login in on launch, so it started fairly popular. I feel ya on the reduction in rewards. No emissary? Sure. But 30%, bruh, most everything in the shops nears a million in price! You still get to use ship cosmetics but no captaincy/guild progression is just assinine of them.

@@nerddotcom5817 Yeah, here's hoping that Rare sees that most people don't want to deal with hardcore PvPers.

I will admit if you already unlocked ship trinkets, it's kinda an odd design choice to not allow them to transfer over.

@@kiro-fo9qg its not so much they don't transfer over, more that you can't sail a captained ship, which in turn means you can't use them, which im not the HUGEST fan of, but also not the end of the world

@jjrulez1596 Personally, I dont use Safer Seas so it won't effect me. But I do know alot of people who grinded out all the trinkets who hate PvP so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

I just wish we could sell to Sovereigns. I've gotten too used to just harpoon everything up and sell! Sweet damn selling on Safer Seas is a chore. And for friggin' 30% gold.

​@@lareine9014Good. Punishment for being a loser.

Well said

30% is fair for guaranteed income.

excellent take. this is also why my group very rarely sails galleon. and when we do, we almost exclusively meme. being on a sloop fighting a less experienced gally crew is just way more fun and unpredictable than fighting a swabbie sloop on a gally.

@@user-qb1ys8cl3o I'm not saying it's not, necessarily. But I feel a couple of things are just a little much to subtract, be nice to till have captaincy. But, beggars cant be choosers, its nice to have to option.

@@cptmcquacken4887 Maybe it will come. I would love to sail my ship there, but for now I am content having a peaceful option when I wanna fish and vibe on the waters.

Aye. They prefer to listen to the vocal minority of hardcore PvPers. I want prosperity for both PvE and PvPers, not for either to be ignored. The only group of people who should be ignored are the sweaty PvPers who think everyone should be forced to PvP.

​​@@Clown_the_Clown If the game had no PvP, the game would get stale fast. It's like yin n yang, you can't have perfect balance without the other. The game's core gameplay loop has always been about collecting loot so you can protect it from other players.

@@kiro-fo9qg I'm not advocating for no PvP, I am saying we should have PvE and PvPvE servers. That way people would be free to choose.

@@Clown_the_Clown Problem with that is the game's numbers are dwindling because of lack of content. If they were to permanently split the playerbase in its current state, that would kill the game.

​@@kiro-fo9qgIt's a combination of a lack of content, and Rare refusing to do anything about the large amount of people who just want to play the game in peace. Splitting the playerbase in two would not effect anything other than disallowing PvPers from ruining the experience for those who want nothing to do with PvP.

They dont allow captained ships so you cant grind milestones safely.

​@@irmiwolfWhile I do understand that, the solution seems rather simple, why not just cap the captaincy milestones the same way company reputation is already capped at 40 in Safer Seas? That way people are able to bring in captained ships to SS but can't freely grind every level, that seems like a much better solution than outright locking captaincy for Higher Seas use only.

Well captaincy is mainly for the sovereigns and the sovereigns increase the speed at which you can sell. If their goal is to slow the rate at which you earn gold it kinda makes sense

I don't there should be a trade off for wanting safer seas, the game itself is meant to be chaotic with the pvp. Doing all of this would just break the game. I get not like getting sunk but like abandoning the actual pirate mentality is a bit extreme to me. It's should crushing sometimes but I think this pretty fair. It would be really cheap to have the captaincy, sovereign, and emissaries

Lasted 5 minutes in safer seas, just far to chill, loot rewards poor, and the fact I couldn't bring my ship in, was final straw, I would be okay if my ship was limited to just coming in with current setup and no log progression,

@@thehauntedpotato6125 As far as I care captaincy is "the way you get to have a permanent ship customization." If there are gameplay considerations that make it unsuitable for safer seas, maybe those should be decoupled from captaincy.

​@Eamil my group of friends are of the same idea. We're all willing g to buy our ships just to decorate them. Silly Rare doesn't see this.

😂

Enjoy your lesser loot and xp

im sure they will! definitely sounds a lot healthier than caring about the hobbies of people you're never gonna meet and how high their arbitrary video game numbers are. weirdo

@@JakobeOG I definitely will. Glad I can avoid attention seekers like you.

My brother in Christ the “tryhard reaper” does not know you exist if you play safer seas 🤣

I think this is really just meant for newer players to be able to experience SoT without fear of being attacked so they can learn how to do things on their own.

The PvP sweats will throw a fit of they can't target inexperienced crews for easy profit. We've seen with Arena that PvP isn't really popular in SoT, people only play Hourglass for the curses.

@@Clown_the_Clownwell it's hard when 90% of crews are inexperienced

​@@Max-prime1212So why do you care if they play in a PvE server?

@@Clown_the_Clown because then only 10% of the population is left.

Pretty much this. Except me and my friends haven't bought the game yet in the first place, but it was on our radar since we could tell if they made a real PvE server out of it we could have some fun with it. But this kinda half-effort where it feels like they still hate PvE and the only point of it is to entice people to what they still view as the real mode, PvP, isn't effective in our books. By restricting it all and punishing folks that like PvE for just sticking to the mode we prefer ain't it, all it does is keep us aware of the fact that they still don't want us as players or buyers.

@ibigfire good, don't play the game. The rest of us don't want you all ruining the game

​@@johnnyappleswope1821cool have fun with the dying game then lol

@@johnnyappleswope1821 Honestly I'd quite like to see them come back. The SoT community is genuinely trash and makes those racial slur spewing subhumans in the Rainbow Six Siege community look good. The reason SoT is dying is because of you and people like you who refuse to accept the truth of the matter, that the "PVP Community" is a vocal minority. Which tends to be so loud and based on ruining other people's time in the game by being toxic pricks, that you've killed a game you claim to love.

@@johnnyappleswope1821 I bet a playerbase with that mentality will be great for Rare making money. A bunch of anti-social people has got to make for a stable niche of high spenders who will definitely not cannibalize themselves with in-fighting. Got to be such an excellent business move to empower folk such as yourself to turn away new and returning customers. Hope it goes well for Microsoft... /s

just delete it and let noobs get the real experience

​@@handemorebattlelands4009lmao. People still mad at safer seas being added just don't want to admit that they themselves suck at PvP and need noobs so they can sink anyone

@@alwinwinter1645 I dont need noobs. I, however, enjoy the free hourglass exp earned for tricking a swabbie into voting his hourglass and instantly sinking them.

pretty funny as well lmao poor noobs go "why?" lmao

Imo the gold gain could go to 100%. The only thing you can spend money on is cosmetic stuff, so it's not like you're going to get any form of advantage

Nah. 30% progression takes a grind that's already awful, and makes it even worse.

@@Clown_the_Clown No full risk. No full rewards

Make sure to remind him how toxic the full game is.

​@@mountainrogue3448 Will you keep saying that when players keep leaving?

@@Clown_the_Clown Get good and play the high seas. Yall lucky its only 30%. I think 50% is a better option.

Well put. The base server is already a slog if you aren't doing massive events, Safer Seas just isn't worth it.

I bet when they see how many people are wanting to play alone they will buff the payouts

@@ZombieCartmanYT hopefully

​@@Clown_the_Clownhopefully not

​@ZombieCartmanYT sorry for late response but I just think they'll make PVP people and PVE people happier if they make both of them the same, but make progresssion in factions/cosmetics separate whether you're on safer seas or normal

I just hope we see Safe Seas get an improvement to progression and Hourglass. Hourglass killed my enjoyment of this game. They took the two most requested curses and locked them behind a long, grindy, PvP sweatfest.

Well I still hope to see you comfortable with the High Seas one day friend 👍

@@Clown_the_Clown how dare they make the best cosmetics... hard to get?

@@gamilith There is an important distinction between being difficult to get, and being insulting to your player's time. My main issue with Hourglass is that it's poorly designed and PvP exclusive. There's no XP gained for damaging enemy ships, repairing your own, bucketing, killing enemy players, ect, you only get XP for completing the match, and the amount you get if you lose is pitiful.

@@Clown_the_Clown just wait until you hear about arena

50% for both rep and gold, ability to emissary ships, use your guild ships and not have a level cap is better than the awful already restrictions safer seas as and nobody in their sons, daughters and elderly gonna accept this stupid restrictions. LIKE WHY IS THIS EVEN A THING COME ON RARE!

Why would safer seas be the only way to play?

​@@LobsterLadyyyy Servers get shutdown eventually.

@@nerddotcom5817when that happens we’re all screwed. Safer seas are still Microsoft’s servers I believe, and all the player data will be lost as well unless they make some big changes before that happens.

Safer Seas is not an offline mode. When the main servers go down, so will safer seas. If/when the day comes that they shut the game down, I hope they make it so you can play offline or with peer-to-peer hosting, but as of now, when the servers shut down, everyone is screwed.

toxicity? you mean getting sunk because you suck at the game?

@@khillaelk5367 ok edgelord, let bro enjoy the game

@@marktheprussian ok, but let other people enjoy the game by sinking people, your point makes no sense

​@khillaelk5367 than continue playing the pvp servers, or do you mean, you don't want to actually fight and you want to grief new players and people that don't want to fight?

@@khillaelk5367 absolute trash take.You're just mad you can't bully new players anymore

Nah but the best part of that game (the class stories) are free, i played SWTOR completely free and got 60 hours out of just 1/8 of the class stories

@@largebig79 Oh, don't get me wrong. Being a fan of KOTOR, I mainly played SWTOR for the story arcs. But the grind in F2P man. It killed me. I couldn't finish it. I want to give it another shot though, some day. Speaking of which, do you know if that graphics overhaul update is still happening?

@@Slick10836 iirc they're rolling out the graphics updates slowly but surely. It's a little easier to play as a f2p now as well, compared to a few years ago, but it's still full of annoyances. They raised the credit cap for f2p players at least! Buttt then people simply started charging more for things on the GTN.

its to not allow people to grind out additional ship slots through the milestones.

​@@irmiwolfallow the customized ships, disable milestone progress.

​@@dr.3998Genius! Why wouldn't a multi billion dollars company think of this? Half of these restrictions to Safer Seas are dumb as hell too.

i think at this point it's obvious they're just incompetent, or not very bright, or both. also this "pve mode" is overflowing with spite and vitriol. you can tell they absolutely despise their would-be pve playerbase.

have fun playing 4x longer to get 100k(about 1 hour on normal servers). even if i get sunk 2-3 times ill still be more efficient.

Good for you! 🙄@@zerolove02

@@zerolove02We will have fun, thank you.

I wanted the "Safer Seas" mode when I was playing through it, but here's the thing, sometimes paranoia can help you succeed on Sea Of Thieves.

@@forexed8948 For some people, yes. But others not so much. Having a game mode that let's me ease my friends into the game so they will be more confident/comfortable in the full game mode is fantastic in my opinion.

Pressure them until they do. They finally caved on giving us PvE in the first place, only a matter of time before we get the real experience of private servers.

Play Minecraft

@@b_boggSweat more.

​@@b_boggnah, im not gonna sail around on my little oak boat

@@tgs7515beg more

So you want a pirate game without piracy?

@@Telesto_Timelost pirates don't attack pirates. you wouldn't last a day if you did. learn some history, kid.

@@phoenixfire8226 pve’ers aren’t pirates

@@Telesto_Timelost so you're uneducated AND illiterate, i guess i shouldn't expect more from an obvious simpleton

@@Telesto_TimelostSea of Thieves’ pirate code is a sham, it’s nowhere near an actual pirate code pirates talked things out they didn’t just shoot at the first sign of potential trouble.

Fact of the matter is - people don't want to go to SaB for the pirate PvE because the PvE in Sea of Thieves is unique. The SoT community isn't really friendly - there seems to be a split between people who are just there to have fun and the same kind of toxic people who enter GTA lobbies exclusively to ruin everyone else's day, with a skew towards the latter. I love SoT's PvE but hate the PvP, and wish I could treat the game as a pseudo singleplayer or PvE experience - funnily enough, like GTA private lobbies!

@@calmaxys3114 Yeah, have to agree with you. Have to quickly mention actually that since my last comment, I wound up having a player chase me for a good two hours. He even anchored his ship behind a rock that was a good island away, swam for about 20 minutes while I was doing some PvE and just sat there and waited. I had like one skull and he knew this. He was doing all this just to fuck with me and make my experience that much worse. Normally I'm pretty passive with the high seas mode, but this has changed my mind, I absolutely despise having to play with other people. A lot of toxic players just enjoy making other people miserable, for no incentive other than ruining the experience, and that sucks. And despite apparently having one of the "friendliest communities around", I've found Sea of Thieves to be one of the worst, it's just rife with people like this. Stick to Safer Seas people, the game has been out long enough that these players don't need to do this for gold, they want to do this to be spiteful.

Hint the content creators are mainly pvpers

@@badasscrusader LOL truth. I'm sur eI'll play PvP, but I'm loving PvE to just chill.

yea, should have let you do athena voyages as lvling up athena is slow enough as it is.

FoFs are less contested now go do one.

fotd and fofs were made for the purpose of attracting pvp and thats why the loot from them is what it is their entire concept was thought up to get a lot of players in the server to come to the same spot to fight over great amounts of loot putting these in safer seas would just make no sense since these are NOT supposed to be pve servers it's an extended tutorial/ safe place to play story mode and fish the whole point of safer seas is to ease new players into the main game which is high seas which is the goal of every tutorial mode in every single game ever

That doesn't make any sense, it would just be the same thing in its current state just the difficulty of getting friend crews

the reason arena died wasnt because there werent enough people on it your logic is flawed arena died because the gamemode was extremely buggy was never updated and had terrible mechanics as a pvp gamemode RESULTING in no one playing it anymore therefore it being dead a gamemode cant die because no one plays it a gamemode dying is the result of no one playing it because of how flawed it is

No need to buy supplies because there is almost no use for them

Play the actual game. Lol complaining while playing easy mode. You guys are never satisfied you'll just always continue to cry about something.

@@RSkrubno one cares that video game is what you use to try and act like you have clout.

It's 30% not 12, and you don't need to buy supplies, just sink a skeleton ship or two, they usually drop storage crates with plenty of cannonballs, wood and food. Additionally the random rowboats have a good supply in their chests too, with no players to harass you, you can just freely engage with anything in the game world with the only risk being the one you expected to deal with.

@@adambrown6669 it's 12%, as having an emissssry up gives you 250% at grade V.

True I forgot about that lol,well if they want to compete they need to take the gloves off and give pve servers alot more to work with

It's an Ubisoft game lmao, you really think there's any chance it'll be good?

@ziggle5000 well with a market this empty even a half decent ubi game can make it big,kinda like rainbow six siege. Either way I hope it at least competes with sea of thieves,competition will only make them improve

not with te cap on reputtion as it is, it's good for beginners and tall tales, but for world events and legend stuff you have to go to the highers seas. and for me a sea without any other people loses that spice that made the game survive until now

@@russko118 My experience is getting killed for no reason with nothing at all on board or getting sunk after an hour or two of grinding, I hate the PVP experience in SoT because it makes the PVE experience all risk and mostly no reward because the dedicated PVP players end up with all the stuff. I want to have fun with my friends, no tget called the F or N slurs by some tryhard who is a complete no-life on the game. Also, the excuse of "it's a Pirate game" is absolutely stupid because guess what Pirates didn't do IRL? That's right, they didn't go out looking for fights with _other_ pirates, they went after the merchantmen of countries like Spain, France, or the British Empire. You know what SoT mainly consists of? Pirates fighting pirates, I say that disqualifies it from being a pirate game. You know what has better PVP than SOT? Fallout 76 because I can just _ignore_ the person picking a fight because until I fight back they're dealing only scratch damage. The only time I have had fun with the PVP in this game was when it was in the dedicated PVP mode, every other time it made me want to quit the game because I spent hours with my friends getting stuff and we lose it all. What's the point of doing the PVE when you die because the PVP players have to ruin everything for people who just want to have fun doing the PVE? All Rare needs to do is make the PVP _completely optional and with no drawbacks to punish those of us who just want to have a good time_ and then people wouldn't quit the game because of their experience getting ruined.

@@kabob0077 sure if you like to be capped at 40. or just don't stack.

@@kabob0077 yup i'm gay and black and all i hear is "Fa**** N*****" shouted over and over it takes me back to child abuse days and puts me in a place of great anxiety being verbally attacked in this game. i wonder if i could sue rare for allowing these slurs in their voice chat? hell since they are obviously not moderating it, there could even be terrorists using their voice chat to communicate!

Yep. As someone who has well over 1k hours into the game I don't have too much to really work on. But all of those passive commendations that I didn't work on cause I just wanted to fight people, I can work on those now! Get all of the stupid merchant stuff done, animal crates, finish up the rare fish that I need, try....TRY to get the shrouded to spawn....then cry in a corner when he never comes, take my roommates through the tall tales and other stuff since they are new etc etc etc. I love what they did.

@@StudlyFudd13 same situation, I am loving safer seas to clean up islehoppers. I just wish we still had the tomes available for more possible doubloons still even if they spawned of 1 tome from each set so you couldn't do the full set without going high seas

@@truekurayami I honestly don't really see why the locked the books? I have never seen them as a pvp item. No one wants them besides for achievements. It feels like an odd choice, but it's not a big deal, just a head scratcher for me.

@@StudlyFudd13 Accomodations, one curse, and doubloons are the only things they provide, and the only reason I want them still in safer seas is because you can sell them for doubloons. and ya it doesn't make sense for them to be removed completely since you only get them from ashen chests which still are in safer seas and sell for doubloons as well.

@@truekurayami maybe they just aren't as common? It could also be an unexpected glitch from the other restrictions

So have like two games? As in you functionally have two completely separate accounts. I can see that being really unpopular.

@@GuardianSoulkeeperi would love it

​@@GuardianSoulkeepercause the people who already made progression would be scammed? Yes, this is the price for adding a terrible pvp system without thinking about the consequences.

@@arbalest327 Because the player base would be divided. What happens to those with friends on both the PvE and PvP servers? What's in it for them?

@@GuardianSoulkeeper it won't matter about player base split if the game dies due to this bad design, I guarantee if they add like better ai or something for pve and make pve servers better then our current people would come back. People don't come back to this game exclusively to sink the millionth new player and go around the map for hours to pvp because rare can't make hourglass or arena remotely work. And the pve players don't want to waste time on pve if they just get sunk, or sink the other person only for the other dude to come back and have the same boring fight because he doesnt want to go around the map looking for another dude to pvp, or the fact pvp has no progression and only exists right now in the terrible hourglass mode, or to make people days who want a better fleshed out pve experience worse. If you literally add more compelling ship factions that fight you on naval and stuff like black flag this would solve multitudes of players problems with the game. This game bleeds players because of how pvpve is designed.

I'm right they with ya. SoT is one of our favorite game designs but over time everyone got tired of dealing with people and Uninstalled. They all said they would come back for safer seas until they heard about it being nerfed. None of them will play still. I've spent at least a couple hundred dollars on the game but now I'm also Uninstalling. They're focused on serving people who enjoy hurassing other people that we would NEVER want to play anything with. They had the option to bring in a bunch of players that would NEVER play high seas anyway and instead they screw over the players who just want to play the game. Good luck with that RARE.

@@draxxzakuto5735 same as every other company like ea tbh they only cater for new (bots) players and die hard sweats that play the game like their actual life depends on it

the whole point is that it's not worth it to play safer seas long term it's supposed to be a transitional gamemode/extended tutorial to ease people into the actual game they didn't make this mode with it being a pve server in mind so dont treat it like thats what it's supposed to be. the restrictions are justified since it's a tutorial space/ safe place to play the story mode if you dont like the fact you cant grind pve mindlessly with no risk and all the reward this game isnt for you and you should just play something else

@@shxdeesot i have played the game since day 1 i have the ferryman set, completed FOTD like 30 times, killed the shrouded ghost, max level on all factions. Don’t talk to me like im new to the game. Not everyone wants to play a rage fulled pvp game every time they try do something PVE lobbies exist and rare acknowledge them so why is it such a big and negative ask wanting to play pve. Hourglass pvp is here now so open sea pvp isn’t hard to find but chilling out a few hours a day shouldnt be a big ask. But i get it dw you’re 1 of them kids that drink g fuel and have to win at every game you play and you just have to play like your life depends on it. No everyone wants to be like you keep that in mind

@@jamesallen99 bro really said hes completed fotd 30 times like thats a flex💀 thats not a lot of times man. the simple fact is this game is and has always been a pvpve game. since you're definitely a year one player and most definitely arent lying to me im sure you remember when skull forts were the only world events and the entire server would show up and fight over them. THATS THE CONCEPT OF THIS GAME, pve encounters that attract pvp. I REPEAT THIS IS NOT A PVE GAME. we see this over and over again with fotd and fofs these are all pve event made for the soul purpose of attracting PVP encounters. I REPEAT AGAIN THATS WHAT THIS GAME IS. thats the vision for sot and it always has been since the very beginning, why do you think world events are big clouds in the sky? BECAUSE ITS AN ADVERTISEMENT TO THE ENTIRE SERVER SO PEOPLE COME AND PVP OVER THIS PVE LOOT. why do you think all the pve in this game is so ridiculously easy? because it would be literally impossible to complete it while being attacked by other players which is the ENTIRE point if it wasnt. u can sit here and ignore the facts and gaslight yourself into thinking that safer seas was meant as a pve server but the simple truth is that it's not and thats not even what it's been advertised as. find another game if you dont like the facts stick to personal insults and name calling as counter arguments it really displays your level of intelligence very well.

Yeah, it wouldn't really be fair if you saw the shrouded and didn't get any progress for it

@@macewindow149 fully agree.

Nah

it's almost like there is quite a big group of people sick and tired of dealing with the toxic pvpers who ruined this game for them for so long.... To bad pve people are being punished by being given a watered down version of SOT

I honestly think they were forced to create Safer Seas by MS or investors. Especially considering their long-time stance against such a mode and their pathetic attempt at creating it.

this mode is spitting in the face of pvers, it's a bad joke. now that the hype has died down the game has gone back to being a huge toxic turd

Honestly kinda a good idea

It's not going to do well. Out of the 20 or so players I used to play with all the time 0% of them are willing to come back for this. They don't want to play with their head on a constant swivel and they aren't willing to play this nerfed down version at all. PvPers keep acting like it would be unfair to them, but any way you slice we will never play with PvPers. They're a bunch of low moral people we would never play anything with. RIP SoT.

@@draxxzakuto5735the whole point is that it's not worth it to play safer seas long term it's supposed to be a transitional gamemode/extended tutorial to ease people into the actual game they didn't make this mode with it being a pve server in mind so dont treat it like thats what it's supposed to be. the restrictions are justified since it's a tutorial space/ safe place to play the story mode if you dont like the fact you cant grind pve mindlessly with no risk and all the reward this game isnt for you and you should just play something else the game isnt going to die you can keep crying for as long as you want but pve servers will never be a good idea and anyone with common sense knows why

@@shxdeesot And this is written by someone who hasn't put themselves in the mindset of a new player. So many making this argument without putting thought into what a new player will actually get into. Even for the new player experience this is bad. Here, let me even set a scene for you. A new player get in, hopefully does Maiden Voyage, then gets put into Safer Seas. Let's assume they have a friend so they can duo Sloop at least and have someone to chat with. They head out the tavern, and pick one of the three starting voyage givers, lets do Gold Hoarders for example, and set out. Sense these are the lowest tier of voyages to do their payout will be a couple dozen coins per chest. ((Here I even did some math for ya. Castaway 18-39, Seafarer 42-78, Marauder 84-156, Captain 168-330. So very little, and a new player will not see many Marauder's starting out, let alone Captain's. Maybe they'll even find a gem! Which is 300, 450, and 600 respectfully.)) Course doing these voyages barely makes a dent in earning Rep so they realize they'll have to grind to get anywhere. They then go check out the cosmetics shop now that they have a little bit of money, okay, expensive for the amount of gold you get but not crazy, then they go look at ship cosmetics. They like the look of Kraken lets say. They will need 300,000 gold to get the full set. One of the set needing 50,000. Sea forts currently are the best way of making money (something a new player won't know) and you will get about 5,000 a fort. A full, basic, ship set will make you do 60 forts. 10 per cosmetic. So, even if you were to get nothing but captain's chests with max payout. You would have to get 152 Captain's Chests, for just ONE of the ship cosmetics. So very few new players will see this and think they should keep trying to learn. Course, people argue that this is the tutorial! A way to learn! Not to be used for serious play or gold earning! Tell that to new players, who will be taking it seriously. Course a new player will like that to an extent, except with rep gain being so low, they will never fight the harder skeletons. As getting to rep 40, which is max in Safer Seas and get the better voyages that spawn harder enemies will take... fuck I'm not even sure, dozens upon dozens of hours of grinding, maybe over a hundred. So they won't get challenged really, and sense gold is even more grindy then before, they are barely getting rewarded for it. A brand new player will stop at some point and do one of two things, either stop playing, or go to High Seas before they are ready, because they want to progress, get kicked in the face for it, then come back to Safer Seas. This cycle will continue until they leave, or get good enough to stay in High Seas, because they learned on High Seas. You are asking ALOT of people to sink in a lot of hours in for no real payout. No, the current implantation is bad, EVEN FOR YOUR ARGUMENT.

@@trathanstargazer6421 SINCE YEAR ONE this games core gameplay has been pve to attract pvp encounters. the entire idea of world events are pve encounters made to attract pvp encounters. thats why when skull forts were the only world events when the game first came out everyone would come and fight for the loot it's designed that way. why do you think it's massive clouds in the sky? because it's announcing to the ENTIRE server that theres loot there to get people to fight over it. and if you think im wrong we see this trend repeat itself over and over again, for example the fotd. it was literally created with the original skull forts effect in mind back in year one that had since died out since there was better ways to get loot. IT WAS AN EVENT WITH MASSIVE AMOUNTS OF LOOT DESIGNED FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF GETTING PPL TO PVP THROUGH THESE PVE EVENTS. thats what sot is, pve leading to pvp encounters. we see this with literally every world event this is how the game was designed. why do you think none of the pve in this game has any level of difficulty whatsoever if you have an iq of at least 80? because it would be impossible to do these world events MADE for attracting pvp if the pve aspect actually had any challenge to it. you have to deal with both pvp AND pve at the same time. this game shouldnt EVER be treated as SOLELY PVP OR SOLELY PVE EITHER. the two go together and they cant exist properly without eachother. if sot was a pve game only anyone with a brain knows it would have died by now. it takes the devs MONTHS ON MONTHS to release new pve updates (which are literally designed with attracting pvp in mind anyways) and the pve they release if you take the pvp aspects away from it will get old and stale in a week from the repitition. THE ONLY THING KEEPING THE PLAYER BASE ENGAGED LONG TERM IS THE PVP AND ONLINE MULTIPLAYER ASPECTS!! if you dont believe me just look at another pvpve sandbox game like minecraft for example. NO ONE PLAYS SINGLE PLAYER ANYMORE CUS THEY'VE DONE EVERYTHING THERE IS TO DO. the only thing keeping minecraft alive is the online multiplayer servers. it doesnt take a 160 IQ einstein to figure all this out it just takes a little bit of rational thinking. this game needs pvp and pve TOGETHER at the same time to survive wether you like it or not and if you dont then this game isnt for you and you should move on to a different one. simple. SAFER SEAS RESTRICTIONS ARE JUSTIFIED IT IS ISNT A PVE GAMEMODE ITS MAINLY MADE WITH TALL TALES, FISHING, AND FAMILY GAMING WITH LITTLE KIDS TO HAVE FUN FIGHTING SKELETONS WITHOUT OTHER PLAYERS IN MIND ITS NOT FOR PLAYERS TO MAKE MONEY IN. IT ISNT MADE WITH PROGRESSION IN MIND, ITS A PLACE TO UNDERSTAND THE BASIC PARTS OF THE GAMES LIKE THE EASY WORLD EVENTS AND HOW STUFF FUNCTIONS SO YOU CAN BE READY TO MOVE ON TO DOING THAT STUFF IN HIGHER SEAS AND IF YOU CANT HANDLE THAT SOT ISNT FOR YOU ITS THAT SIMPLE

so how'd it go? give up quickly with 12% of the rewards and 15% of the game actually available?

Took me three years of toil to get LEGENDARY HUNTER OF THE SEA OF THIEVES😅

Yeah I feel that while it will be nice, commendations such as this should be not able to be achieved, but if they were maybe giving a really good reward for anyone who did it before safer seas

​@@Imagigamr4295Ah yes, because fishing commendations should require partaking in PvP servers. Can you even call yourself a true fisherman if you can't defeat 2 ships at the same time right?

Or mindless PVP ganking

The restrictions shouldn't be there. If people don't want to play the regular mode, that's bad design of the main mode. People shouldn't be forced into PvP.

@OnTheSeaOfMemes The name of the game doesn't change the fact that having hours worth of work ruined by some PvP sweatlord nolifer isn't enjoyable or fun.

​@@Clown_the_ClownIt is a pirate online pvpve game, and safer seas are for new players and ppl who don't care about progression. Don't try to make it out any other way

@OnTheSeaOfMemes That's fine, if you enjoy PvP, great! I'm just saying that people should have a choice, and shouldn't be punished for choosing one or the other. PvPers should be able to PvP, and PvErs should be able to grind and progress. Neither should really be forced to do either.

Nice, hope you have fun!

Y’all suck, making the game insufferable for those who wanna play it right

Tiz hard being a solo slooper when every full brig/galley wants to PVP and you just wanna get an accommodation from a tall tale. PVP in SoT has turned off every one of my friends, I’m hoping Safer Seas introduces many new and fed up players back to the game

@@NHNVrhythmguitarist My two roommates have always wanted to join me in SoT. I have well over 1k hours in this game and still find joy in it. With safe seas they have both now bought and are actively playing the game. We had a blast the last three nights! One has extreme social anxiety so he avoids social settings and online people, and the other is legally blind and cannot keep up with pvp due to his sight. Now they get to have fun in the game.

Warzone in the high seas? I wish. I hardly see any other ships nevermind ones that don't run away the second you get 3 islands away from them.

@@Kezsorafor real dude I wish I could switch servers with people who say they’re a war zone lol. All I get paired with are swabbies

@@BoebieBaby if you want action, just put up an athena emissary and watch what happens. doesnt matter if you got grade 1 or grade 5, they all come chasing

@@vivekjk6729 I do enjoy flag hunting

peaceful and pirate in the same sentence bruh im crine

Not necessarily guarentee

Most people wouldn't care if it was only for tall tales

literally the only reason i'm using safer seas is just to do all the tall tales in peace aha otherwise see you on the high seas!

@@magicpyroninja To be frank, if people are up in arms because there won't be as many easy targets, then why should we care what they want? People want to play in peace, and if that means the devs do give us PvE only High Seas, that means they'll earn more $$$ from casuals.

It’s a transaction between the developers and new/inexperienced/bad players. You can still play the game, but in exchange for excluding yourself from half of the point of the game, the same amount of opportunities will be removed. Idk why so many people expect that a game designed almost entirely around the idea that PvP is not only prevalent, but encouraged, should pander to people that don’t want to play the game how it’s intended to be played. Not all games are made for everyone. Some people are bad at the game, some people don’t interact with all the aspects of the game nor do they want to. Which is fine. But if they don’t want to play the game as it was meant to be played, they shouldn’t get the benefits that correspond with that playstyle. Example: The devs removed the ability to red-sea your loot for a reason.

PvP is a part of the game and of being a pirate, if safer seas had everything the main game would be useless and the freedom of doing what you want(pirate) would be gone but you clearly don’t know how games work

id imagine they would only add more well known ones, meg, kraken and sirens are fairly popular. either that or theres already plenty variety.

@@user-gb7os4kc3u Well that is true the game just feels empty I simply think this would be the best way to bring in new players and bring back old ones.

I wonder... for the Charybdis encounter, would you just be trying to escape it? Or are you fighting _to_ escape it? Either way having a whirlpool suddenly open up sounds intense and I love it.

@@LeviathanTamer31 You know how the water turns black when there's a kraken around my idea was that once the whirlpool started showing up if you just stop the ship entirely you would eventually get swallowed up by Charybdis and entered a new server or maybe inside of it's stomach for loot but if you stay in the stomach for too long then the acid would destroy your ship and kill you but that's my idea.

Idk if jormangaundur would work due to its sheer size. It’s the WORLD serpent

Nooooo PvP is very needed and just a part of being a pirate and if you can’t handle that then don’t play

@JulesVanBelle I dont play it because I get random crashes with no error codes and the community is toxic and refuses to let people enjoy the game how they want to enjoy it👍

But... You can enjoy the game without PvP. You just take a 70% cut in reward. You essentially lose 70% of the risk. The only real danger in the game are the other players. It is part of why I like Safer Seas. It gives me a reason to do silly stuff and be with my boyfriend in a game mode where I can just be doing stuff without fear of losing everything. There is still PvE everywhere. Most non-player-combat-based commendations are still available for unlock, and the world events still happen. This also gives you the ability to do the Tall Tales and still gain treasure and renown. I am genuinely confused as to why there is a problem here. Is it because you want all the reward for less than half the risk?

​@@JulesVanBelleor... Play in the safer seas? I don't get this gatekeeping mentality where you can either get fucked by people who played the game for years before you or don't play the game at all. I'm certain our new friends from the PS5 are happy the training grounds that are the Safer Seas exist.

@eldinoor7072 yeah we tried playing safer seas but we kept getting crashes and the game had no error codes so we gave up

the problem is that 90% of the playerbase is a veteran and 10% are newbies, the newbies will always get railed and either get better or leave, meanwhile the veterans will continue like always only complaining when they do not get enough new content.

Incorrect. Pirate Verses Non-Pirate would be expected in a Pirate game. Pirates did not attack one another, they attacked the law, they attacked the crown. They DID NOT wantonly murder anything in sight, especially not other pirates. Stop using that tired and incorrect argument.

Ngl, none of the PvE is hard

@@macewindow149 That's kinda disappointing. I remember taking on the kraken like week 1 and thinking "If this is the early game first roaming boss, this could get good by late game"

@@Wanderer_of_Solbrother what you fail to understand is the late game of sot IS pvp this isnt a pve game there are no late game bosses it's a pvpve game the pve part of it is there to encourage these pvp encounters like fort of the damned and forts of fortune which are whats considered as late game events they actually arent hard to complete at all in a pve aspect it just takes 10-20 minutes depending on how good you are the actual hard part is the pvp from the players that come to these active events due to the LOOT rewards from them these events were made with attracting pvp in mind and that is their CORE purpose. if you dont like that this game might just not be for you and thats ok theres plenty of other great pve games out there but this just isnt a pve game

@@shxdeesot Yeah, my point is maybe they should think about PvE late game experiences. SoT dropped off my radar and the radars of everyone I know as soon as we got bored of high seas tarkov and just wanted to solve harder puzzles and kill bigger sea monsters. And given that Safer Seas has a longer queue time than high seas and TONs of poeple are returning to the game for everything not PvP, it might be time to support the other part of the community they banned from the forums back in year 1. Remember Rare banning people for suggesting PvE servers and Rare publicly stating that PvE would never be popular? I get that PvP IS the late game, but the reason it's the late isn't because that's where the community wanted it to go. That's where the people who didn't jump ship in year one were ok with it going, and there's noting else to do besides it. Which is really weird for a game crossed over with the Monkey Island universe.

@@Wanderer_of_Sol im my opinion the monkey island and potc crossovers where just money grabs and i didn't really enjoy either at all but thats just my opinion your point abt the queue time for the servers isnt really valid the only reason theres a queue for safer seas is so the servers dont crash which happens literally every time to the normal servers when a major update comes out this is no different and it isnt just cus it's pve servers this always happens. rares vision for this game have always been pve attracting pvp they always intended it to be a game with player fights and pvp interactions ever since year one when there was only normal skull forts the entire server would come to skull forts since it was the only event and there would be huge battles and those are my fondest memories of this game back in 2018 i get the whole wanting cool puzzles and new sea monsters and believe me i want that too and i find that aspect of the game very enjoyable as well but rare takes MONTHS to come out with new seasons and updates like this with new puzzles and they havent released a sea monster in god knows how long and i think the main reason for that is because that type of content is only cool for abt a week and then it gets repetitive after that. for example the first time i encountered the kraken it was the most fun and exciting experience and was very cool but after a while it's like oh i got krakened thats annoying it loses it's magic very quickly and i think thats why the devs wont add full on pve servers cus the game will completely die during those months where no new content is added. the only thing that keeps players engaged during these content droughts are pvp encounters and thats why you see a lot of these new events and pve additions being basically attractions for pvp because thats what will keep people engaged long term and every encounter is different due to the pvp aspect of it. i understand the want of just pve but thats never been the vision for sot since the very beginning and i dont think it will ever go in that direction

We just get 100% progression on PVE servers 2: High Seas

First of all, it cannot be completely empty, there must be at least 2 crews on the server, if not, you would have been transferred to another server. Second, things like that happened before Safer Seas came out, so judging everything on 1 server is an absurd. Third, people usually change servers if they don't see reapers on the map or reaper chests.