ALL manufactures do similar things. It is what it is. Fact is that Mercury has won more independent speed and drag tests than any other - but they have also lost more MPG and noise tests than any other. This was set up by camp Rudy, and they won. See the independent tests if you want clean results. This is just showmanship.
That's the difference between people and their boating style. I don't fish, I go fast offshore. And I'm sure glad if I'm a few mph faster than the guy running next to me - and if I can accelerate faster during a short run, I'm ecstatic.
@Walleyeguy513 Yeah, pretty much. If you are in a bass tournament, and you try and fish the same spot as someone else, you are definitely headed for conflict. lol.
I think every outboard company is going to not play fair. They are always going to make there motor look better. Just the other day I seen a Yamaha outboard video made by Yamaha and look who won Yamaha V-max same goes for Mercury watch one last night they made it look good just like Evinrude is doing right here, even though I like my e-tec.
Wrong. I'm a Merc guy, and I've run both Merc and Merc Racing Optis. I like them for a lot of reasons, but reliability is not one of them. You can slice it any which way you like but the ETec are great engines. But now the new Merc V8 engines are pulling away.
The Merc for the win there, not to mention ease of maintance . No valve adjustment, a full service can be done in less then an hour by anyone. Merc has on line how tops, to complete its services
@@johnnyturbo8460 mercury engines too complicated. Had a 2000 efi and took ages to find the problem. Runs like a dream now but Yamahas never give probs
@@andrewally3570 they are actually much easier to work on. You don't even have to adjust the values like everyother outboard engine maker on the market I believe. Smooth, quite, reliable etc... As far as taking ages to find the problem, that may be lack of tooling, poor maintenance, technician error or a bad apple. Possibilities are endless.
etec easier to maintain, highly reliable, lighter, more torque...so mercury bought it out and shut it down. I'm still buyin em used for cheap....2 stroke is better for an outboard.
I always had a softspot for Mercury, but 4 stroke engines I have tried feels more sluggish than 2T. I find it true that Evinrude has better acceleration and pulling power, but usually other manufacturers (2 or 4 stroke) have higher top speeds. Best regards, a Evinrude owner "soon-to-be" Mercury owner. (Older 2 Stroke) :D
Rather than the Mercury super charged 4 stroke i'd love to see them use Mercury's Opti Max 2 stoke, little unfair that its running against Evinrude's and Yamaha's 2 stroke motors but still did well.
I like how for Mercury they used the heavy ass Verado.. I'd like to see them test againt the Pro XS. That E-TEC would be in the dirt. Not to mention, the HPDI should have beat the Verado
Why did they use a Verado in the first place. Why not the Mercury 250XS Optimax which is similar to the Yamie HPDI and similar to the E-Tec .. all DFI engines. The Verado is 4S .. so wrong!
Here's the truth from someone who's owned both. Unless you throw a Merc racing Opti in the mix, the Etec is VERY hard to beat. Fact is that Merc boiled soup on that same damn Opti design for almost 20 years. They were initially fast, but Evirude caught up in a big way.
@@AB-80X how did they catch up??? They cant keep a damn foot on the motor that's is worth a damn. Compare winnings then if Evenrude even comes close we can talk. Hell quarter mile I'll smoke that etec ass with my 40 merc.
@@bigkountry29 What does your little 40 hp outboard have to xo with any of this? I'm a Merc guy, but I also know what the downfalls of the Merc Opti-booms were. And if you think that a 250 Opti would smoke a 250 Etec, you are so wrong it's not even funny. The Etecs are very reliable compared to the Opti and they make great power. The current Evinrude outboards do not suffer from the lack of quality control Johnson and Evinrude outboards of the late 80's and 90's did. With the discontinuing of the Merc Optimax, Merc have finally stepped up their game and made some properly fast and hopefully reliable engines. I just switched from a 300XS to a 300R, and I have reduced my acceleration times as well as gained 1.7 mph in top speed. Had Merc not come out with these new V8 outboards, my Mate would now hsve an Etec on its back.
Im curious - ive seen several videos on everude boat engines - they look superior to mercury and Yamaha - so my question is if they are lighter, more efficient, more powerful why arent they on more boats? I see more Yamaha and mercury the majority of big name boat makers? I will post this question on a few videos hoping for an answer- ty
Mercury/Yamaha have taken over the market and are the only thing most dealerships/manufacturers offer. This is answering a 5 year old question and at this point Mercury has bought OMC "evinrude" and shut down the etec line. It's all about money. Etecs are too easy to maintain, dealers need billable hours.
We should take a poll... (all avid anglers, specifically bass anglers) who view this should vote. Whether a long time boat owner, new owner, or thinking of buying, and whether personal experience, second hand experience, or purely word of mouth, should vote. We can get a real time, real person, real life answer here....vote yamaha, evinrude, or mercury... I'll kick it off... Yamaha
Tournament Pro's love the Etec !!!!!!????? - we virtually never see one here in Canada, all Mercury and Yamaha. Suzuki? We never see one except some 5 or 9.9 hp engines. How many gear boxes have you put in the Evinrude, got that problem fixed yet??
You do see E-Tecs in the states and Europe. From what I understand, Evinrude is generally not that well represented in Canada. I think it boils down to geography. Go and have a look on Scream & Fly. Lot's of people running Rudy blenders on go-fast boats.
Tournament pros dont live them. They get payed for sponsoring them. Tournament fishing is all about the highest bid. Who ever pays you more for useing there products is what you go with
This was Evinrude trying to convince everyone that there was no need for four stroke engines. They loved their E-Tec so much that they refused to go to four stroke. It costed them their entire corporation.
Fuel economy, maybe, even though direct injection has leveled the field considerably. But reliability? 2-strokes have a huge advantage, being very simple in design, requiring far less maintenance and having proven themselves over time. The (relative) misery that has taken place with 4-stroke dirt bikes since the 90's gives a good indicator of what to expect with outboards. Unfortunately. I'd like having a quiet, fuel-efficient 4T outboard, but sheer weight as well as cost and trouble of maintenance - not to mention expected service life - keeps me away from them in foreseeable future.
Henri Helanto You're living in the past, Henri. The new Merc 4 strokes don't even require a valve adjustment and changing oil once a year couldn't be easier.
john Doe After three 4-stroke Mercs - last of which ruined my last season - I still have a pair of 1970's (!!!) 2-stroke OMC:s that have been 100% reliable all this time with nothing more than new bearings, rings + honing and gaskets. Thirsty, noisy, even smoky, but they just work and that's what really matters. I'm currently doing a complete rebuild on an '89 crossflow, instead of just buying a Verado. I've spent way too much time in tow and way too many $1000's on servicing what essentially is unnecessarily complicated, unproven (in marine applications) and fragile technology. That's just my experience. YMMV.
samiam1150 seriously??? reliability??? My dads old 35hp evinrude lark is almost 50yrs old and has never had a major problem. You'll never get that out of a four stroke. And as for power, my 9.8hp merc 2 stroke will out run my bro's 18hp yami 4.
joe bikerThe 115 Yamaha4 stroke will push my Robalo R180 to 40 MPH @ 5,500 RPM with three adults and 40 gallons of fuel on board. It's whisper quiet, vibration free and totally reliable.
If they had locked the engines at similar "tilt" angle towards the boat, then I would have given this video a bit more value. Easy to see the boat on the left has his engine more tilted than the two others. The start however, that goes to the one on the left.
The last slogan just blows me away, "the more speed, the more fishing time" no fam, this isnt a vehicle to take one from A to B this is about the driving of the boat
Just brought this 2015 Ranger Evinrude G2 250 less than 20 hours and i'm having problems with the lower end. Looks like no fishing for me this weekend. Drop boat off tues and they won"t be able to get part till next week BS... not Happy The customer service they get 0 stars for me wishing i went with the mercury Pro xs.
Dennis Culler shoula gone with a merc man, sorry to hear that you just spent a shitload of cash on an engine and its having problems, glad we went with mercury we bought our boat years ago.
Hum, Envinrude and Mercury for me, the only problem is the quality of the units against salt water corrosion... starting from the bolts / screws, Yamaha have / had some problems with injectors, a bit of water / condensation in the fuel tank or poor gasoline quality and get new ones....
the proxs is very common in the fresh water bass boat market because the fourstrokes are heavy and slow. Also they are running the etec to why not put 2stroke against 2stroke?
Nah, I own a E-Tec 60hp and it was being abused for about 4 years before I got it. (In the water during winter, never got oil change, never tilted up, never serviced). It still runs like a champ. Always Starts first crank, never stalls or dies, you name it. Really love E-Tec!
I like how they say the results have been independently verified yet they post no link in the description. Also It was clear that this was a commercial for E-tec from before the race by the way they focused on the E-tec engine with the camera and saved it for last... I'm not saying it's not a legit race, just that nothing gives me reason to believe it's a scientific comparison.
There is no information easily fount, is e-tec 4 or 2 stroke. and same comparision of 4 stroke engines with e-tec. other 4 strokes are really close to 2 stroke perfomance, I guess now. What other companies 2 strokes might be then? propably awesome !
i like 'no name' outboards that have no specs included coz anything better than actually getting them started is an improvement... my old Hanimex would've given a few Seagulls a run for their money in it's day.
try racing your etecs against the direct injection proxs ive looked at reviews from both engines and the proxs is lighter by 2 pounds and faster by 3mph. also ive watched many videos comparing vmax to etec and the vmax won almost every time
Ma certo ....come no ? i motori sono stati montati correttamente ? Che eliche usano ? Sono uguali per tutti e tre ? la scia dell' evinrude sembra più stretta....quella yamaha è la più larga di tutte....eppure il 4 tempi yamaha dovrebbe avere più coppia....e se questa prova si facesse in Giappone che risultati ci sarebbero ? Ma i giapponesi non si sprecano a farla...sono persone serie e non si piegano a certe buffonate....la qualità dei loro prodotti è il miglior biglietto da visita....
my hydrotec marine prepped 150 started with a hpdi 150, added a completely prepped 200 block, their porting, throttle. bodies, exhaust tuner, and flywheel and it puts out 320 HP weighs the same as a 150 and will push my tunnel hull shadow bass boat to triple digits, I'm happy cruising at 70 but it's come in handy against a couple bullets with 300s
Merc Racing = Speed Merc Verado = best average of everything Merc Optimax = Optiboom! Yamaha = Slow and heavy, but reliable Etec = Almost as fast as Merc Racing engines, but more reliable and very good fuel economy.
The Yamaha was a two stroke... And here's a fact from a Merc owner. The only Merc two strokes that could beat the ETec engines, were the Merc Racing Opti Pro XS OB's.
348 Loaded Lever true story . I have an old 1993 175 mercury xri efi on a 18.5 Ranger and I can out run a 225 Yamaha sho on the same size ranger boat my boat with 36 gallons of fuel and fully rigged bass boat tops out at 68.4 mph
@@B_B_outdoors Those old Black Max outboards were insanely strong runners, and very light. My first boat was a '91 16' Sea Ray with a 150 XR2 and a jackplate. Ran an honest 73 mph with a 28" Chopper.
The Yamaha was a two stoke. And the only Merc two strokes that could hang with the Etec was the Merc Racing Optis. I'm a Merc guy, but I also know what's what.
But the 4 strokes will outlast that 2 stroke etec by far and itz 2020 and evinrude is "no longer in the game" sad ill stick to 4 strokes i dont need to add injection oil everytime i go some where and my dads yamaha 90tlr has been around since 08 09 sunk exactly 4 times and still runs can evinrude say that i dont think so
My Yamaha 40hp four stroke with a power prop beats my buddy's 30hp Evinrude Etac with a standard prop. My boat weighs about 800 pounds and his boat with the Evinrude weighs 550. My Yamaha was faster out of the hole and has more speed. This video is BS as far as I'm concerned!!!
But I do think this video should've had a 225 Pro XS instead of the Verado. Would've been a better comparison. There is a forum where they put the big 3 on a Bullet. The etec jumped them all out of the hole but the Merc pro xs had a couple more mph top speed.
Lol. Just stop right there. Do you realize how silly that sounds? It very common knowledge that the Yamaha 4 strokes have absolutely terrible torque numbers - even Yamaha knows this. This is why Yamaha never uses that as a selling point.
2 stroke vs 4 stoke vs 4 stroke? Of course the 2 stroke is faster (only in acceleration not topspeed) and the Mercury was starting later then the Yamaha and EvInRuDe but actually the Yamaha is the slowest……
