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Adam is like Takumi, battling himself in 2 different cars. He gets faster in one car then catches up and in the other and starts the endless cat and mouse race with himself
When tuning my race car suspension with an expert (Ron Sutton Race Technology) everything was adjusted based on tire temps. The goal was 2 degrees across the tread. Your inside tire being hotter was because it's an all wheel drive car and you're actually spinning the inside tire when accelerating out of corners. You're right, hotter on inside means too much camber but if there is too much cooling down after a hot lap, the outside of a tire gets more airflow than inside and that can skew your numbers. Tires get more heat from sliding than not sliding so keep that in mind. An understeery car will put more heat in front tires, an oversteery car puts more heat in back tires. Keep tuning tire pressures and alignment with temps.
Wheelspin aside, the inside front should have a greater temp difference across the face because it spends more time unloaded (static camber). The loaded side has more consistent temps due to dynamic camber wearing the tire more evenly.
i have certainly appreciated Collete's presence, she knows racing has the same drive its a good addition to the channel in whatever regard it might be! keep at it i'm enjoying everything as always! also why not go up to the toyo RR tire since you track it only. i know they faded for ken in testing the escort but his testing had more lateral movement
@Matt Souza couldn’t agree more. Gotta ask yourself the question if this was just a another friend of Adams would they get the same attention from him and the subs. I doubt it, too many simps on this channel
Pretty good laps, You were on the right track with the Tire Temps. If anything you could use a little less camber to even the tire temps. The Toyo is not the fastest street tire out there, it is a much older design. The Newer 200Tw tires like the Bridgestone RE71r will be worth 1-2 seconds on a track like that. Also for legitimacy I race Gridlife, SCCA ect and videos posted on my channel. If you want any further setup advice feel free to shoot me a message.
Also the AIM Solo is a VERY powerful device if used correctly. It is way more than a lap timer. You can dive way deeper into data analysis. You can even send your data out to a pro and he could tell you where you are gaining/ loosing time through which specific corners/lines.
@@AdamLZ So what happened was about 7-8 years ago a lot of the club racing organizations started to introduce 200tw Classes "To bring down the cost of racing" vs slicks or Hoosiers. After a couple years tire Mfg's started to pretty much know that if they marked their tires "200tw" even if they weren't they would sell better. So the newest 200 TW tires are realistically more like 100tw but marked up to sell more tires and fit into these classes. These are the Bridgestone RE71-R, Yokohama A052, Falken RT660k ( newest version) and the Falken RT615k. I have tested and ran all these tires As I race in multiple 200TW series, TYPICALLY the RE71R is the fastest of the group. The Toyo and AD08R is an "Old" tire in design and mostly used to look cool these days.
I'd recommend a teensy tiny bit of toe out in the front, maybe 1/16th - 1/8th in to help decrease understeer on entry, but typically most people like just a tiny bit of push. It's hard to tell from the video on what to adjust with the front anti-roll bar, if yours is adjustable or not, but that could help with understeer as well. You're on the right track with tire temps, and they look fairly good. Decrease camber in the front by just a hair, half a degree or so. Stiffen up the front right damper by two clicks to start, that should push more of the car's weight to the left side and heat up the "outside" tire just a lil bit more and get more even wear and traction. If you're still seeing tire temps that are different between the left and right side, stiffen it up just a hair more, but don't go outside your comfort zone, you like your cars soft. EDIT: Also it's worth taking note that in AWD cars, the inside tire typically slips and spins compared to the outside tire, gaining more heat from that - but definitely shifting more weight to the outside tire with damper settings will help load it up more, and get more grip out of it. I'm writing this comment at 19:15, and I have a few tips. I'm not sure if you're stopping for cooldown every lap you show us or what, but keep moving, do a stint of 5-7 laps to get the tires up to temp, 1-3 isn't going to cut it. Also, since watching so far, I've only seen you take the front tire temps. Take the rear temps too. And most importantly, like Eric Rock said, there are some better tires out there than what you're using now. I don't race in a class that the Evo would participate in, so I don't have any recommendations. If you need additional setup tips or have questions for grip racing, let me know and I'd be happy to help. I'd love a data log file if possible, I analyse all my team's MoTec logs and have some data analysis programs that I can use. I'm also local-ish to you so if you need some tips at the track or prep before hand, shoot me a message.
@@AdamLZ Max's comments are right on for chassis setup. I would also recommend chasing the problem from the other end at the same time and experiment with your technique. Every car is different and benefits from a change in approach. A car understeers for 2 reasons. Either there is not enough load on the fronts to generate grip or there is too much causing them to overload. Solution to the first is to trail off the brakes slower and more deeply into the corner. This helps transfer weight to the front and unweight the rear. It frees up the rear and allows for the rotation you are looking for. If the fronts are overloaded, braking earlier and lighter will help keep the chassis more composed. Equally you can trail off the brakes earlier and at a faster rate. Try and think about the times you were understeering. What were you doing with the throttle, brakes and wheel? Where did that make the weight go? If you go to power too early then that means you could of carried 1-2 mph more past the end of braking point.
I was thinking because of the one big long sweeping left turn which he was push hard through would really heat up the right front tire much more then the left due to the longer sustained G's the right front was experiencing...explaining why it is hotter.. Could also be the way he corner balanced the car which I vaguely remember...as in I don't remember shit lol...
regarding the difference in temperature of LF and RF, the layout of the track is very important. And it looks like the one long lefthander also happens to be a banked corner, which effectively increases tyre load a huge amount. so the temperature rises a lot more from just that corner, where all the right handers are either slow corners, so not adding as much temp.
Since he has a 1 way LSD, wouldn't the inner front wheel be "spinning" if the LSD locks on accelerations like he said it does, this would also increase heat in the tire
@@kevo05sexactly what I thought. If there is aggressive LSD in front - in each slow right turn under acceleration inner wheel might spin due to loaded outside wheel has more grip. This explains overheating inner wheel in general as well as higher inside temps due in RH turns inside of the inner wheel is more affected due to static camber. Also front LSD might contribute to understeer...
Yep, definitely what I was thinking too, that corner was probably the longest one where a lot of heat would build up on that tyre. It's probably the hardest corner on the tyre too, you can hear it squealing mostly on that one more than the others
When you use the pyrometer you need to check it instantly after getting off track because the temp will equalibrate across the tyre and cool down even within 1 min of stopping
This is without a doubt my favorite video yet. Front camera angle with the speedo and circuit position was fantastic. The car sounds incredible 👌. Congrats on the lap time!
Be careful when you put more grip on the front the Evo has a tendency to oil starve itself in corners so adding a bigger sump at the same time would be a benefit
@@dawsonsgarage I agree fully, I'm local to knockhill racing circuit in Scotland which has lots of right hand corners and I have seen a few running the bottom end there. I also myself had a Tommi mak Evo 6 running a dry sump setup to stop this
29:33 Am I the only one reading too much into the comment that Collete makes when she states "Maybe I just hate life and like complicated things. I'm mean I got the rotaries and I'm hanging out with you now (Adam) "
Love the Evo track content! Very cool to see someone stepping through car setup like that. With the temps for the camber settings, it's super important to get those measurements more or less right when you come off of a hot lap for best results. Otherwise with any camber, the outside edge will cool down quicker and can throw you off. Otherwise your methodology looks spot on. The FIRM is a fun track. I was just down there for the first time myself in February. 'Minute 16 is pretty dang quick. Respect.
This is the content we need during the Coors Light Virus! Really missing the daily uploads now but you seem happier so it's all good. Missed the Evo content
@@AdamLZ HAHAHAHAAHAHA i noticed you were watching one of his videos the other day, u should seriously consider getting a bass, they're so much fun! also play more blues broo. and when all of this blows over you should come down to Chile, car scene is growing fast. keep it up Adam, that E36 is turning out SICK
That Evo is so sweet and sounds amazing, it almost makes me think why you would want the Porsche but then you get reminded that Porsche can do laps all day no problem while the Evo will inevitably always require some form of tinkering when you take it to the track.
I was thinking more along the lines of a gt3rs is a 200k car. Adams got enough money to send the Evo into a wall and buy 5 more by the end of the week whereas a gt3rs is gonna hurt if he wrecks it
He can put on a marginally better tire but adding grip isn’t gonna fix his understeer issue. The car has to be set up to rotate better. It’s more involved than tires.
why is it that sometimes your videos have a spot were it just stops snd says “tap to retry” but tapping doesnt do anything so we miss a part of your video :/ it happens around 8:00
These EVO track days & the Japan drifting videos are easily my favorite ones. Just can’t beat them. Great driving as per usual, keep stayin safe homie!
Once Speed Academy finishes their Evo. You should head up to Canada to go head-to-head with Pete's Evo. Btw, let Collete get some input on the setup. She is a former rallycross driver. Maybe she can help with the setup, again, and the lines you're taking. And for tires, the Yokohama Advan A052's are a lot stickier based on the majority of drivers who do autocross and track. And Jackie Ding says that those tires do last a bit longer than the RE-71R's.
@@1e11evnmoto You know how autocorrect is. I've known her racing since 2015 and followed her since when she was in GRC. Thanks for letting me know. I've just fixed it.
Lap times got better as you progressed, Evo 5 my fav in your collection. The best sounding in my opinion is the BMW... You can't script this BMW just shuts off in traffic... The tire shine held well....
Hey just wanted to say im a massive fan ive been going though alot latly just last nigh i tried to ove r dose but i put you video on and it helped calm me down a have a huge passion for drift but cant utilize it so i watch your vids i just wanna say keep up the great work you helping me through alot
Hey Adam, if you want tire recommendations i would say try out the Nankang AR-1s and try adjusting your camber a bit in the front via adding a small amount of degree differences negatively. You can also try lowering the front or if not possible raise the rear. Just small little things help on the track aswell is turning in a bit later on your line. This is a small little trick i was taught and it's hard to really do since once we run a line so much we gain muscle memory but if possible try that method aswell next time!
Love the Initial D style music with the FPV gopro footage. The Evo is by far my favorite car of yours, that thing is such a dream car for me, its freakin perfect. I might consider it to be my all time favorite looking JDM, wish I had one. The closest I have gotten was my 99GSX, but I dont think you can really compare them.
Damn that’s so typical with E36s. At the moment you think you got all things sorted out - she dies! So annoying. Love the video! Love that Collete is in the video, love that you are in Collete’s video. Double is always better! Happy Eastern! Be safe!
Today's movie theater analogies are next level ! Love the Evo , love the track content especially the lap data footage and absolutely love Adam + Colette 👍
What is with people on here.... No he isn’t “defiantly” lol 😂 I wrote and I quote “ he’s Driving a Legend” meaning he’s driving a basically track purposed Evo 5 which was a legendary car on the circuits when Mitsubishi Launched it..... Jesus it’s like teaching kids to read lol
man that track looks super fun. I was gonna say should try to lower that in car camera so we could see the track more, but then you hit us with the gopro on the front bumper.. sick video.
@Power 2 Weight because a slipping tyre will always generate more heat, hence why drifting cars shred rear tyres due to them constantly losing traction
Maybe I'm just being simple but he checks the tire pressure first and then the temperature, the first tire is in the shade and the second is in the sun maybe that's the twenty degree difference?
you may have more toe-out on that side or toe-in if the car was aligned that way or possible off alignment, that tire is scrubbing when going straight, possibly.
