Evolution of Foxhole 2017-2024 

Hey Thanks for using my footage for this stuff! I remember the devs told me when i made an HOUR LONG video similar to this one that even they, having worked on the game, couldn't believe some of the shit they had back in 2016 and yes profiles 100% need to come back. Come on you know the devs have been playing Baldurs gate, give us back those RPG-esque elements. Let us put in our profiles what our soldier's native region is, why we joined the war Etc.

I miss small arms structure damage. Sure it wasn't "realistic" but it was far more immersive, being able to actually push a front by shooting out foxholes and assist in destroying structures as infantry. Nowadays you reach a defensive line as infantry and just.. stare at the defences, usually waiting for a tank to come along and pop pills for you. Bringing your own PvE as infantry is also a massive pain due to 1. How little ammo you can carry (and the time it can take to run back to resupply) and 2. How vulnerable you are to getting rushed down, only really being viable when you have an overwhelming amount of friendly force (at which point you might as well just let the tanks take care of the defences for you)

I played a crap ton in 2018-2019. I played mostly during the start of world conquest and the first 20 wars or so. But honestly the time I miss the most was right before WCs, hopping on to campaign servers and just being a truck driver. Running supplies back and forth from the QM to the front. Also helping drop the first nuke, and witnessing the wardens blow themselves up in Jade Cove was hilarious. This was a great vid and brought back some memories. Would love to see more footage from those first 20 wars!

I think asymmetric balancing if done right can be really fun, instead of just having the same exact thing over and over again, giving different equipment can really diversify the tactics and culture of each faction, it’s cool to capture an enemy tank and use their strength against them as opposed to just getting more an more of the same equipment

Hey, thanks for featuring my Bunker Base @8:54! I know that building can be tough and burn people out, but the bunker was built by only 2 people and was made that compact to help reduce burnout by only keeping the minimum that we needed. Playing and building in moderation is the key, in my opinion.

For me a Player how joind halfway thourg the game live its great to see all the older Stuff Thank you for making this

Personally I’d rather have a big qol update before we get another major update after naval, there’s just so many small issues and nitpicks that would make the game so much better if ironed out

duuude a massive CQC battle during resistance phase would be incredible! No doubt it would break with the number of players trying to fit into AW or blemish or jade cove but we really dont see enough city combat as infantry

i have wanted a video like this for so long, thank you

I want tier 4 walls back! You can see it very briefly at 8:44 It was a really heavy concrete wall that had built in pillboxes on top. It'd be extremely nice for AI defenses around facilities without needing to build an entire bunker base. It sort of just fits the theme of a facility better too. Would love a chance to play dead harvest again too

I would love to see the return of the expanded profile creation. Though as a Collie I love my Krr Omen and coming from back in 2018/19 it has been a drastic improvement getting faction specific equipment

have fun watching this video!

Biggest problem i see with building is. Make it faster and there will be too much spam everywhere, Make it cheaper same problem. People do and will keep building wayyyyy too much and it will never change even with the new sups system people live through 1-2k sups/h bases. Sure having an excavator or cement truck etc would be neat and help with building burnout, but if you can slap down a full t2 base in less than an hour late game will become even more stagnant than it is. Imagine this, Big group gets ready for a TC (Tempest cannon) op, they get 3 excavators and 3 ACV to the location, and in less than an hour they are firing since all is built, dug out and made t2. now you have even less of a chance to catch TC ops in the making "even though people do call out TC setups while they are being built, but no one wants to deal with it until it is too late" Do i think facilities where a mistake? Yes and no. Do they have great potential yes, but i feel like it needs more polishing just like bunkers, i would even go as far as to say bunkers is in a worse state than facilities at this point in time. With how people bug emplacements into garrisons or push guns sitting in gunports and basically unhittable, or the new bending patterns that allows you do build garrisons right up against each other is getting too much.

I_Saw_Bear was the main reason why I Love and play Foxholes. A long time ago I bought and tried to play foxhole but my computer was old and I wasn’t able to even move or aim my character well. Fast forward to November… I think, and I buy foxholes again and joined in the late stage of war 83, fortification update, and I’ve definitely got my moneys worth and more

Wake up babe, Robert uploaded! :]

I want the profile creation back and I want to be able to view other player's profiles. The amount of memes and lore we'll run into will never end.

I miss the old watch towers design, also the gun nest was an amazing defence, I loved to build them! and watching enemies getting naded by AI xD

Will never forget when Baron played this game way back when

Great video. I think overall it's way better. I think the Profile should come back, keep Reprimend feature OUT lol, I love everything about Logis right now, and for the UI, it is 10x better than it used to be. I just wish we had a bigger Cold/Warm icon with like a meter or something. Is it a meter right now or just a static icon? Don't know, it's so tiny!!

Low Tech Gaming here, I loved the nostalgia trip from this. I started playing the game during its beta or alpha back in 2016. I’m still amazed by how far the game as come. Definitely going to be online for the Naval update.

I think that for the weapons the factions would be able to "research" the captured weapons. for example you would need like 10 captured weapons and it would take day to research them. then the faction could produce them.

Yeah we want mini games while resistance is still up

I hope that if the population ever gets big enough, the devs would add a foxhole classic server.

This game is amazing been playing it since 2017 and take breaks every now and then and everytime I come back it soo much crazier and better

Just saw that I am in a video! I am xSandelow on the left gunboat at 1:24

The operations feture was cool. I kinda wish that return. Still remember clicking on a op and toning into the defence of some town. Ahh great times

The profile thing seemed to be really cool !

As a logi I remember when 12.7 and 14mm used to get mixed up so much that 14mm was removed from the game and everything is just different type of 12.7, the best thing forme was carrying 99 hand grenades sitting in an OG foxhole and firing away thous were the good old days.

that walking on the deck is awesome, if naval update comes out they need to have it

WOW i didn't expect a gate to give me insane nostalgia. My brother gifted me this game 12 days after EA launch. I only fought on the front back then, but i love where the game has gone from there. just wow

I remember the update when they added bayonets. Sometimes I miss old foxhole because it was more jump in and play rather than grinding like crazy, second job with complex logi that can only be done by clans. It's becoming a clan only game. Sometimes simplicity is a good thing.

I like that the weapons are faction specific.

I'd like to see some sort of structure deconstruction mechanic where you can completely disassemble structures and leave the natural terrain behind. Structure clutter seems pretty prevalent right now.

Maybe a special event war where both factions have access to the same tech once a year, like relic wars

I remember playing this 5 years ago, it's definitely change alot

I missed the concrete pillboxes they looked so much better. The OG game has been changed a lot over the years since it got greenlit but honestly it's still amazing.

Logis should be split into two separate groups: Logistics, which focus on logistics and supplies, while Engineers focus on frontline defenses and infastructure.

I realy hope if they can make the trailer a bit longer. That short wheelbase are drivning me nuts. And ye, b-mats would be nice to transport in it aswell.

There are two ways that you can do weapon asymmetry while also having the game be fair. 1. You can have one side get better weapons in the early war, one side get better weapons in the mid war, and then both sides get even weapons in the late war. This is mostly what is going on today. Colonials get many superior weapons in the early war, allowing them to make huge gains early on. Wardens then unlock a few powerful weapons in the mid war allowing them (hopefully) to push back at least to starting positions or at least halt the Colonial advance. Then the two sides even out. This is a tricky balancing act and if you look at objective data, things still slant towards the Colonials. In almost every war, Wardens consistently lose more men than the Colonials regardless of the outcome. War 107 is actually the first war in a while where Wardens do not immediately begin losing more men and then continue losing more men throughout the war. Last war, the difference exceeded 200,000 at one point and it remained just under 200,000 despite the Wardens winning on all fronts. That's quite an extra strain on Warden logistics in a game dominated by logistics. This is on top of the average expense of Warden equipment being higher. 2. You can balance everything at all stages of the war. Example: On day one if Colonials get a better grenade, Wardens should get a better rifle. On day 14, if Wardens get a better PvE weapon, Colonials should get a better AT weapon. This is also largely true in the mid and late-war. The trouble is that a LOT of testing is required to make sure that the kill count of each advantage weapon is perfectly balanced. This is the only way that asymmetry can work in a war game. What certain players want instead is for their faction to keep all its best weapons, gain exact copies of enemy weapons, and then nerfing the other side for good measure. Eventually, the side that is being nerfed and victimized this way will just stop playing. It's not fun when one side is being advantaged. Personally, I would like to see a war where both sides used Warden weapons with different skins. I'd suggest the opposite as well, but Colonial players have formed a narrative that all their weapons suck. So why bother? Besides, I think that Warden tanks look cool and steam-punky while Colonial tanks look bland and green.

If they added dense forests it would enable the infantry players to more impact here and there

this video made me want to play foxhole again i heard new dev stream coming soon right ?

You called it. They brought walkable deck back in naval update

I liked how tanks were about skill, coordination and game knowledge. Also when there were fewer tanks on fronts. Now it's just clans comparing their dongs on who can build more BTs and every front has so many tanks they keep getting in each others way as most fighting chokepoints don't have room to line up more than few tanks. I miss old foxholes and frontline engineering. Barbed wires for 20 Bmats was great and well balanced if you ask me. I loved to bring 500 bmats to the front fat walking behind front lines bolstering defenses in case we had to retreat.

No uniqness=no realistic scenario,no caring for your faction,etc you get it.

So a couple things. 1. Artillery was MUCH stronger back then. It was pinpoint accurate and essentially fired satchels at the target. You could destroy any structure in existance by just sniping it with your 100% accurate artillery. Having the pushable field artillery reworked into the winter army artillery where it has basically double the range but proper dispersion was a good change. Artillery shouldn't be a sniper, but that's what it was back then. Even though current problem with artillery is it's way too easy to snipe spawn points. 2. Building nowadays isn't hard, it's all upkeep. But the one thing we lost from the past is the ability to go to any front and immediately be able to build a defense that could influence the frontline. Now with how bunker base tech works, bases need to be built in advance in preparation for an attack that might happen in the future. This results in several bunker bases needing to be built ahead of time, and they need to be MAINTAINED until they are needed. Builder's just ended up getting alot of chores that they need to do every war rather than being able to go to the front and enjoy active building in a warzone. Properly made concrete defenses can also instill stalemates, where as before the "sniper" artillery could wipe out any defense regardless of what you put, nowadays there's no way to quickly wipe out the dry concrete defenses while the enemy is watching. I feel like a better balance for building would be the best of both worlds. Building shouldn't feel like a chore for builders, but the sandcastles shouldn't be made of impenetrable titanium that requires the enemy to destroy them when you aren't around. Defenses should be easy to build and destroy, because back then building was a more active thing that was done while fighting was going on. 3. As fun as those old gates were, they needed to be removed. The physics on those gates allowed you to jump into the stratosphere. It was fun to fly using them, but they were extremely clunky. And I'd imagine they were more resource intensive than the current gates we have now. 4. The one thing I want to come back is the first rendition of resistance phase without the supply caches. Where instead of the map resetting to a resistance phase map where there's nothing there, it just continues the current war but it becomes "resistance phase" and people can keep fighting. Having a resistance phase that takes place on the very same map that the war just ended on would allow for resistance phase to take place on the map that players had built throughout the war. It would be neat to have fight club be in a famous spot like that one base that survived the entire war. The only problem with the original resistance phase is the supply caches that allowed players to have an extremely unfair advantage at the start of the next war, and removing those would remove any real problem with the resistance phase. I'd love if bases I maintained all war could get visited after the war is finished just so people could check out what was built. It would warm my builder heart knowing that I have at least a few extra days to show off my work before everything gets ultimately erased.

You forgot part of old user interface where it's show levels of all people in region. Now, there no way to check other peoples level, exept asking them, and there no ingame way to prove they answer to be true.

8:06 This looks like really cool thing, shame that i wasn't there back then, same with profiles

I think is very good that the factions are different , because is more realistic like that , all of us , humans are individuals , and 2 different countries is more chalenging and fun to play than just some unatural same things with fixed and same damages.

I would keep having different weapons. It’s much more interesting. Besides, I really think the infantry weapons between factions are fairly balanced all things considered. The bigger imbalance would be in the vehicles. Also being able to walk on boat decks would be so cool. Why did they take it out?

Can you make video about legendary foxhole clans from 2017 till today?

Do I think you ask us to let you know what we think in the comments too much? I'm letting you know in the comments that I do.

For me I'd really like to see Skirmishes back. It'd be especially cool if they used that as an opportunity to experiment with more designs. You could even make a multi-region skirmish map for any times where we get big enough to need more than 1 shard. Imagine a little 3-4 region desert map skirmish that gets put up instead of a low pop second shard. Having something actually different and unique about it would encourage people to go to it as well beyond just "I don't wanna be in Able shard" and encourage normal Shard 1 loyalists to give it a try for a new environment/experience. Besides this maybe the devs would get to have fun with it, trying new stuff and getting to experiment and let their minds run wild. Besides that only comment I have is on asymmetry. Genuinely I think it's one of the better things to happen to the game, with the one caveat that our devs, while great at many things, are rather terrible when it comes to balancing, or consistency with balance. I'm of a mind we should be having balance tweaks almost every war, even if it's just changing a few numbers and values, I can't imagine this would take them very long, and it allows them to refine over or underpowered items until some kind of medium is found. How it is right now is if something is OP or trash, all you can do is wait 4-6 months for the next update and pray the item gets a change that isn't wildly over-tuned. Hell just look at how many times the Field Anti-tank gun was changed in the first 3-4 months of introduction, it went through something like half a dozen changes. This should be the case with all weapons and vehicles.

I still have the 2017 version, I managed to make run using SteamEmu and a cool thing is the new posts show up, but because there is no servers its pretty much useless

Great Vidoe Man

PSA if both sides complain about the other having op weaponry that means the game is mostly balanced

I remember in 2016 seeing foxhole on youtube there was 1 server with a cool map that was just a river and two sides had to make boats to attack each other, probably was a server mod and it was tinted brown filter, didn't even know what the game was called until 5 years later. A lot of old stuff should be added back like simple stuff and naval needs a big update.

This is a real throwback for me, i started in early 2017 before Foxhole went EA. Imo there have been a lot of steps forward, even if they are misteps, we can at least see the progress. But i do feel like this game, in its current design, is really trapped between 2 different worlds and philosophies that are stiched which produce a lot of friction by design. The newer infrastructure build system and its logistics, along with building overall are a prime examples of the "old world" mixing but not always matching up with the new. One offers (or at least teases) near complete player agency, but its held back by the old tech and assets and overall design. If youve played for a while and have seen the changes through time, you know what i am talking about. At this point i am wondering if its really just techinal limitation as to just how far they can go with what we currently have. Which is a bummer, because frankly (maybe its too soon to write it off) i dont really care about Anvil. I would fully endorse a Foxhole 2.0 refactor or release as long as yhe devs took the lessons of the past and applied them. Also i kinda wish that the devs interacted or did community based things more. There are so many instances where i wish the devs would even just put together a well shot compilation of a battle and its before and after results. Stuff like that.

i played my first 3 hours foxhole today with a friend. it was a mess. but a very funny mess.

Instead of having all the same equipment, what if devs give us the option to tech into a few enemy items/vehicles each war? I'll sure be running around with bomas and lunaires and speeding away in LTDs

The building is fun, but not overly rewarding, you spend hours building and no commend function exists to reward players that put down the rifle, step out of the logi truck and pick up the hammer. MSUPP process is a grind i burned out 106 trying to keep a basic public petrol running. And no commends lol. Great video thanks.

Lol I love the new look 🤣

It’s always funny to hear vets in my squad start talking and being like “back in my day, you couldn’t do this” or “Back in my day, this didn’t exist.” They are just the foxhole boomers lol

Personally I think the more the merrier when it comes to vehicle and weapon options

This ain’t an old feature. But I think the devs need to add ammo cans as large items that you can carry by hand and fill up with ammo that normally doesn’t stack. This will make life so much easier for infantry using crew assisted weapons.

We need more and more tanks. More types of trucks. Some that are specialised in taking cargo crates, like the Atlas hauler are specialised in taking scroops for example. AND MORE TONKS! MOOOOAAAAAR!

Arty maybe too OP - but this dynamic will be effected by the Naval Update.

8:04 let me just say DONT BRING THIS GATE BACK. I used to abuse the hell out of that by driving over the gate and launching myself wayyyy farther than I should have been able to I would get so many road kills if there was one on the frontline. Sometimes I wonder if they changed the gate model, and the way it worked because of me and others like me.

Let me know in the comments

"Foxhole; a game that went from looking like this to looking like almost the very same this but with more bugs and exploits."

building should be a lot easier... or atleast be significantly faster with cvs and advanced cvs. and we want an excavator to dig trencher!!!

Siege Camp hasn’t listened to their community. They’ve never tried fixing their report system or cracked down on clans. They’ve listened to their devs, not the players. Edit: What I mean by this is that the devs will play their game and rebalance it, but they don’t listen to players unless it involves bugs. The biggest complaint I’ve seen from foxhole is the report system and how clans abuse it. The fact that they have never even attempted to fix it proves that the devs listen to themselves, not the players.

Waiting for 3d faction, red coloured and map transformation for triangle)))

Need to add the Hangmen as a 3rd faction

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QM'S screaming at people / shooting people for stealing crates.

This video is needed for all the Reddit screams to say the devs do nothing

6:09 It would get abused by cluster-B messes

i want my War Monument back god damnit..it says its there but they removed it, if you swim out to where its supposed to be on warden side. It is playing the music and even has a Candle where it once was.. they took it out because "they don't want the game to be competitive" if they didn't want it to be competitive they should've made a PVE game, not a PVP game. Shits gonna be competitive no matter what you do..

Im just going to be simple and say I would love for player profiles to return. Although we can select sex or skin color in game. We cannot make a bio like we use to. As for builders/logi. Its in a good place. But the cost to maintain is really crippling to the point of needing 24/7 grind in some places. Sub hex modifiers divide the faction into who owns the subhex and anyone else using that area is destroyed by the biggest group that wants the subhex. It is ruining the team orientation of the game and why we see just single fortresses. Instead of multiple groups. Msupp modifiers should only drop to a "poor" rating. At very poor the game does strange things and the costs are insane. Thus everyone tries to avoid it by teamkilling the competition from adjusting their subhex modifier. I nearly quit the game from this as I became tired from spending days building a base. Only for a large clan to move in become annoyed of my existence wiping my base. Or if I moved into an open area no one was using. My base would be wiped from a large clan miles away in the same subhex. If devs want to improve the game this is a good place to start.

Bring back dead harvest. The OG harvest was fun

Air do you breathe air. Let me know how you feel about that in the comments.

I feel like a computer upgrade was somewhere in here as well, the game really looked that much worse?

Pavlo.

Im letting u know in the comments lol

Just fix shadowdancing please. Slower turning times on foot and increased accuracy penalties after sprinting. Also just fuckin fix the aiming. Took me like 1-2 week to understand. And 800+ hours in i’ve yet to master it. ”Git gud skill issue”

Ahhh I hate the new fuel tanks I liked the tanker trucks more

People believe the navy update is somehow going to fix the game, like the trains did. Or did they ? I am having such a laugh at that at this point because caring about it I am no longer capable of. Don't get me wrong, I really like the game. The concept and core idea is the best MMO I have ever seen. But we need to be honest here, the dev team got lucky with it, and it outgrew them almost immediately. Videos like this are a great proof of my point. All the changes, quite often contradicting each other, chaotic and community driven design process, all the bugs it generated. The game must be a massive spaghetti code monster they are not willing to touch (rewrite the game and improve the server performance, the maintenance mechanics are after all a necessity not an intended game mechanic), to a point where they are willing to push money and time into a new project instead.

I don't need the game exactly balanced just has long as the swing back the other way as time goes on. Just make it close.

no veraity is always good

literally looks the same

building should be come more simple, too many bunker base

The devs have been making absolutely nonsensical decisions. They knew building system was poorly designed, but instead of relying less on it by introducing more World Structures that wouldn't worry about decay while limited scaling to preserve servers, instead of that they made everything 10x worse by having entire logictics part of this awful system as well as entire tank production. Like, wtf are they doing...

still a dead game