GREAT video! My Dad was a Paratrooper in 11th ABN in WWII and acquired a carbine bayonet which he carried as a dedicated fighting knife. He was issued a Garand and had a standard bayonet for that.
Thank you! That’s awesome. I’ve seen photos of M4 bayonets converted to something like M3 trench knife configuration but I imagine it makes fine fighting knife, as-is. I love this whole series of bayonets and should probably start looking for an M6 to complete the collection.
My father, grandfather and great grandfather all served in the United States Army, WWI, WWII and the Vietnam War, thank you for such a Great presentation Sir, keep the videos coming !!! ☺️
My Dad carried a radio part of the time in WWII and he was taught to rap a ground wire around his bayonet and plunge it into the dirt. In one situation he ripped off the wire and left it sticking in the dirt as his forward observation post was being over run.
Great video explaining bayonet evolution. My 5cents, in soviet army soilders would get their asses kicked for sharpening their bayonets. As a cutting tool they used other regular knifes.
Suburban Rifleman - I just learned a ton, thanks for this. However .... the frosting on the cake would be to show attachment - detachment from their respective rifles. One could not expect that you own each - the M1, M1a, M16, M1 Carbine, and AKM... however, you could beg / borrow rifles and / or reference other videos.
Started out just collecting m9 bayos then some m7 which actually was my first given to me by a friend who it was issued to in the aust. army. Then got some more m7 a colt 64 and a Ontario 2005 and my Aussie one a gen cut in pristine condition just yesterday my first m4 arrived a case 1944 leather handled bayonet it's in pretty good condition I love it. I'm hooked
The Marines still teach their people the school of the bayonet, so, the use of the bayonet isnt over yet. The threat of cold steel being thrust or slashed into your body is greater than being hit by a bullet.
The uk's bullpup rifles bayonet is interesting as it goes over the barrel plus it has the wire cutting ability. I've got a fully CHROMED version as an award to a rifleman of the rifles regiment.
@@SuburbanRifleman I am a bayonet collector myself, though, as I live in Scotland, European bayonets are more easily available than those from the USA. I do have some of these models, but not all.
@@Embrabrummie I can sell and ship you a M7 bayonet manufactured by the USA from the 1970's IMPERIAL company. These are sharp and made out of high carbon steel. Super strong ! 🔪
You are giving the impression that the M8 scabbards are WWII and all M8A1 stamped scabbards are post-WWII. Not true. The M8 scabbards were for the M3 fighting knife then converted for the M4 bayonet and designated M8A1 and were stamped as such.. The reason you see M8 stamped M8A1 configuration scabbards is because the manufacturers used the leftover M8 throats to make M8A1 scabbards.
Wow can't believe I'm just now seeing this video. I was watching videos of the Mossberg 590 shotgun with the bayonet lug and magazine cap for the large ring of the M7 and M9 Bayonets. It seems that the current production Ontario M7 is slightly longer from the bayonet lug latch to the front attaching ring and does not work well on the shotgun. Guys are having to shim the shotgun magazine cap forward. I guess it's not a problem on an AR15 20" barrel and 14.5" barrel. My Mossberg 590A1 came with an Ontario M9 Bayonet and I already had a contract one made by Lan-Cay. I also have an M7 bayonet that is marked Colt on the blade and was made in West Germany with an M8A1 Scabbard. Back when I was buying the M7 style ones they were pretty cheap (except the Colt) but now all of them are like everything else, expensive. Nice video presentation.
@@mrweeby1961 thanks for your feedback! I wasn’t aware of the issue with the Mossberg 590. I’ll have to read up on that. I wish I would have held onto my old Phrobis M9.
My dear, as you held the last M7 model in you hand before taking up the sowjet bayonet, on its hilt I recognized the hebrew letter" tzadik" !!! That means this particular one was once proberty of the Israeli IDF!🇮🇱 ! I believe it has some serious collectors value! Best regards from Israel, David😎
@@SuburbanRifleman , thank you and you're welcome! I'm doing fine despite all the mess with the war we have now going on. God bless our sodiers, coming home back healthy in one piece!😎
And the M4 bayonet was based on the M3 fighting knife. The M3 and M4 are basically the same except that the M4 has the mounting for M1 carbine. My uncle was in the 247th Engineer (Combat) Battalion. He was originally issued a M1 carbine and a M3 knife. I have his M3.
I picked up an M7 for my first AR build several years ago. How common was it for them to come with the M10 sheath? Also it feels like it has a sharpener in it as well.
Not terribly uncommon but I never encountered the M10 scabbard in the military, even in the early 2000s. They certainly made a lot of them and the M7 was issued with the M10, I think as supplies of M8A1 scabbards started to dry up. I’ve never owned an M10. I’m completely unfamiliar with its internal construction.
@@SuburbanRifleman After a bit of trying to remember where the hell I got it from in the first place, I've since remembered it's an Ontario 494 non issued M7 with M10 scabbard. It wasn't bought to be looked at but as a just incase things go to shit again. After what I went through from hurricane Rita and the riots that went on in my current state I buy things for 1 specific purpose. I'm pretty inexperienced with bayonets and I chose the M7 over the others because it's made to kill, not kill and like the M9 etc. So I'm not sure if I'm just feeling the retaining clips within the scabbard or since the M7 is also meant to be used as a combat knife and therefore meant to be sharpened in which case a self sharpening scabbard would be logical.
The m10 shealth was for newer knifes from late 70s-80s the m7 still produced by Ontario knives and used in other countries the m8a1 was original sheath during the 60s -70s also depends on the brand you have of the m7 mines a Columbus milpar with a m8a1 it marked on the sheath a issue number so I know by brand year and sheath it was issued during Vietnam and carried .there is a list of manufacturers that made those knives and years they we’re In service by each manufacturer on internet .
Sorry im so late to this discussion, but the m6 bayonet looks a tad different in the handle, but of course the same blade. They are getting quite rare also. The m7s with m8a1 scabbards used to be a dime a dozen but like all other milsurp they dry up eventually. The m9 is actually a long drawn out and twisty turny story but suffice it to say it was and wasn't based on the ak bayo, stoner had his new era space ahe type bayonet to go with his stoner modular system of rifles. I love bayonets and knives and a decent collection, but the best part is learning the history. Thanks for sharing yours.
Your right I hanging on to my Columbus milpar the blade was little bent I bent it somewhat back did t won’t to damage knife cause it was used in Vietnam and carried during the war it’s sit on my ar15 build right now I have a Romanian Ak for my akm 9mm but not going on it .
@@SuburbanRifleman I own one of those bajonetts made by Eickhorn in Germany and it is so super-cheaply made and therefore so super-sick, that it makes me sick and ashamed of being German that this kinda crap has been issued to US-soldiers stationed in Germany in the 1980s. Compared to US-versions with the screws and so on mine is so cheaply made that it makes me sick, sorry.
I’ve got a couple of German military knives and they seem very well made. I’ve never owned anything from Eickhorn but you are not the first person I’ve heard say they are not so great. America has made some pretty terrible junk also. I guess it all depends on the manufacturer?
You put the M6 Bayonet before the M5A1 bayonet that you have sitting there. It was made for the M14 rifle so you "do" have that bayonet. It even says it on the hand guard.
Yes, but not by American troops I think. We supplied many M1 rifles to the South Vietnamese Army. This would have included many thousands of M5A1 bayonets, I would imagine. We also supplied M1 rifles to South Korea and they made their own version of the M5A1. Not sure what rifles Korean troops brought to Vietnam though.
In the fiber and resin scabbards, I keep the bayonets sheathed. That’s pretty safe. On the other hand, Leather has a tendency to attract moisture which can encourage rust. So I keep knives and bayonets with leather sheaths separate during long-term storage.
I've got a m7 bayonet with a cerved runout . Imperial with a m8a1 scabbard. Think they changed the run from 90 degree in 1974,? .. So I think mine will be post Vietnam. Think imperial had a few contracts from 1973 to 84??
Are you saying you have these bayonets because you have the corresponding rifles? Well then get a Springfield M1A and the put a bayonet-lugged flash hider on it. Then you can get an M6.
No U.S. M9 bayonet? It has a wire cutter function too, and you could have demonstrated that instead of the commie blade which doesn't belong in that lineup.
I had an M9, one of the original Phrobis III models made by Buck. I sold it a while back when its monetary value outstripped its usefulness in my collection. I’ve been thinking about getting one of the new examples from Ontario. I might. Anyway, the AKM bayonet is a contemporary of the M7. The M9 came along quite a bit later. Thanks for your feedback!
I’m at least going to bear camp. The early season is next month, muzzleloader only, and regular season is just before Thanksgiving. I’ve thought about trying to do some filming while hunting. I might give it a shot, so to speak. 😆
@@SuburbanRifleman Yeah , I would imagine trying to film a hunt is taking videography to the next level.. probably quite involved and difficult. Either way it good to hear you got some new material coming.
I am a retired US Marine and my service connected knife collection is way beyond this guys cheap junk collection. There are those of us that have carried them in combat and then there are these wannabe clowns on youtube.
General Curtis LeMay ordered a Large amount of M16s for the US Air Force in late 1963. Did those weapons have Bayonet lugs? Plus, M16s were being "field tested" in Vietnam in the early 60s by are "advisors". Which leads the question, when was the 1st M7 made?
