Hey @ONSRA, I'd like to thank Fabian for a detailed reply to my email query the other day. Nice work ! I will keep an eye out for the impending battery upgrade before forking out a ton of cash. Thanx again ;)
Onsra should get 10 points just for the fact the owner watches your videos and listens to what the people are asking. Suppose it’s a matter of time before it’s king.
I ride my GTR all the time in Sydney Australia over all different terrains with my 107mm street wheels and have had the best time of my life and I’m so happy every time u can’t fly in a lot of areas that’s why I love it
thanks for the review bro! i just ordered my black carve about 30 minutes ago after doing research for about a month! lol great channel, keep it up! peace
@@Ramatorix yeah i forgot to mention that actually, your discount was applied and did work, thank you! i'll try my best to upload a little video response to this once mine comes in.
Aymen, thanks! I am trying to be different and actually give useful and honest reviews so people can find the best board for them without wasting their money. I made that mistake, all the reviews said the wowgo was amazing. Turns out it was not the right board for me. Wish the videos were more honest before I spent over $700 lol. So I started this channel. I am thankful for your support! Take care and be safe.
I respect your integrity which is rare in business where people are incentivised to be bias by financial profit or to get free stuffs by a company or 2. In one hand being fully objective and honest about reviews may make the winning company happy untill its not. I was wondering if u want to take it step further and open a patreon where u are financially supported by true esk8 followers that believe in honest objective reviews without any pressurr to piss any company off for being honest. If that works it could even help u even improve the video/editing quality and actually make a living out of it. Wish u all the best bud ;)
@@aymenblue2841 i have thought about a patreon page but then quickly reconsider. I started this channel to save people money with both discount codes and buying the protect that best suits them. I am blessed to have a stable job and do not count on anything from this page to put food on the table. Because of that I can tell the truth with no fear. The little money I have made I just roll right back into the channel. I will say though there are a few companies that really appericate the honest reviews for a few reasons. 1 it gives them feedback to make their stuff better. 2 with everyone saying everything is the best the really great products get washed out. This is the case with onsra, evolve, and cloudwheels. All 3 have really appericated the honesty. Wowgo did not lol. But it is subscribers like you that want me to keep doing this. Also if companies want to work with me k owing how honest I am then I will be dealing with truly great companies and not the ones who just take peoples money and run. We are going to build this channel together, its going to be great! Keep up the awesome work with the comments and make sure you always post your experience not matter what the outcome is!
Hey, thanks for all the work you put into your videos! I wanted to ask you about range, which you covered briefly and gave points to Evolve. I'm curious if you did a range test with the longboard wheels on the both to do a apples-to-apples comparison. You compare the range of the two, but without talking about which wheels were used for those range tests. Thanks!
Awesome video. I like the objective point system. . But also probably very valuable to have your personal style and opinion and subjective thoughts in future videos as well! I think I’m gonna get and onsra for myself for Christmas. I’m 33 and 175lbs, and I also don’t value speed like I would have 10 years ago!
Very informative as always. How do you feel about the difference in flex of the boards? If you have 120 mm cloud wheels can you try them on the GTR and assess the difference from the 105 mm? The rubber wheels still better on gravel? Look forward to seeing your open opinions riding AT wheels for a while. Ride safely
Jonas, i like the flex in the gtr but i also like the little less flex of the onsra. The flex is good to bounce from edge to edge but the stiffness is good because it is precise from edge to edge. I have a set of 120mm cloudwheels but I am going to do my tests on 105 for right now. The only difference i can find between the 105 and 120 is 120 has higher top speed less torque and makes the board sit up higher. The 105 cloudwheels have lower top speed, more torque, and sit lower. The 105 fit my ridding better. There was no difference in comfort or range in my tests. Out of street wheels the rubber ones are best on gravel but I think the a/t will be way better. Should be getting a set in a month or 2.
Fantastic, detailed and informative review there @Ramatorix eSk8 reviews. I'm sortta torn between the two myself. No time to do a point scoring test currently as I don't actually own an e-board as yet but I will say that Evolve mailed me to keep me updated with the opening of their new UK HQ (for test ride etc etc) and Fabian himself, replied to my quite detailed query after contacting Esk8 Europe (aka Onsra) and asking for him only (and not just any salesman) to reply. On that basis, Onsra wins for in-depth information. I will, of course, further add to these comments below, when I have more time. P.S. Thanks for the brief chat the other day ;)
Sno, no problem at all. So the purpose of the points is so you can choose what categories matter the most to you. Then make a table like I did with the three zones. Use my data to plug in which board wins each category. Then total everything up. For example say where you live there are no hills so you don't care about hills but top speed or noise are very important you you. Then when you make your score sheet put those in zone 3 and hills in zone 1. Now evolve will have a higher score then it did for me. Does all that make sense? Sorry I am terrible at explaining.
Very good honest review, the Onsra looks great, the controller/remote I prefer and can be fun with shorter board although the trucks of the GTR can be moved back and forth. I would take the GTR over the Onsra since I ride in the city and around people I like that it is quite. Also it is proven to be great quality, fantastic support with service stations in many countries, like some flex of board and battery and all the bits and options you can get for the board.Be cool to see the GTR with AT and also with the 115 mm rubber wheels and 38T pulleys. Look forward to more from you
Thanks for the great comment and the insight to your choice. I plan to get the a/t in a month or 2. I have a set of cloudwheels coming with 40t pulleys and I hope that will help with the hills.
Love the video man and all the work you put in. I also like your point system, I think that it’s a good approach to comparing boards for purchasing. Like you said no board is perfect. Lol hopefully your bank account can recover soon 😂 anyways thanks for the vid man!👍 keep riding!
Thanks so much for the comment, i am glad you liked it! I think the point system is the best way for people to find the board that is right for them and their needs.
If I am being honest I thought the evolve was going to crush the onsra. When I did the hill climb i could not believe the results, the underdog took the win by a massive margin. I can say that I think people will be really happy no matter what board they buy, for me though the onsra won. I was surprised.
Hi! @Ramatorix eSk8 reviews.Im looking at Onsra or Backfire Carbon fiber electric skateboard. I want to buy one but I absolutely know nothing about maintenance or take care of one. Any links for forum? Thank you. Is this a good investment or a toy?
It is not hard to maintain. Clean it up and keep it out of water. I would say neither for your question. It is a hobby for me. I use my boards for fun not transportation. I see it the same as snowboarding, motorcycles, or like golf, rc cars ect. For me it is something fun to do on the weekend and free time. I love ridding around the town and just seeing all the great views. Hope this helps and feel free to ask any questions you may have.
It was really a good video. Good information. I usually move at the flat. I was light in weight. I sometimes go up the hill and evovle gtr is not enough torque feel. (a pulley 32t) This part is sad ... If the batteries and motors become stronger, The motor will be louder. If that's the case, it'll be bad for boarding while listening to music. (Earphones are only worn on one side for safety.) on one's personal wish I wish there was a motor with fast speed and strong torque + quiet sound.
Once again with the great review!! I’m soooooooooo glad I went with the Onsra DB over the Evolve. The main reason? PRICE!$$$$$ Onsra hands down best bang for the buck in the upper tiered $1k range. The customer service for the Onsra pays for itself IMO. Thanks again for reassuring my purchase, loving my black carve with the 105 clouds and 40T combo btw too bad you’re not in TX would love to take some trails with ya bud. Looking forward to the next one mate! Cheers!
As always thanks so much for the comment. I agree the 105mm cloudwheels are perfect for the onsra boards. Wish we could his some trails together. You have to check out my ride from last night. It was amazing.
Thanks for the awesome comment! I believe not every board works for every person. I tried to give a way for people to be able to choose the best board for them. Each board has their strengths. Just turns out that the onsra strengths fit me better. I think the evolve is going to be an awesome off road board.
I bought the gopro max. It is really good and cuts the wind when moving. Standing the wind can be heard. Biggest complaint is the battery dies even when the camera is off. I charge it. Let it sit for 2 days and when i turn it on its at 80%. With the camera on it eats the battery pretty fast.
@@Xeak11 when i did my research the cameras were just as good but the gopro was way better at cutting the wind. It was also more expensive though. So it is a trade off.
Awesome review. I have DD onsra and had bamboo GTX Here is my take. 1. In CA, sales tax is close to 10% of the price. No tax if it comes from China. I will take that. 2. Hill climb, if you stretched the hill 2x more, Evolve would overheat and go into stupor. Onsra would keep going strong. 3. I did change onsra bushings to Riptide (evolve uses them) it is much better. I can do 30+ miles without fear of death wobble. Onsra for the win in my book. For the future, please do a Evolve AT set up vs Onsra AT. I had an Ownboard carbon with Evolve wheels (direct fit) Evolve wheels were in great quality although so expensive.
Tae, as always great comment and thank you for sharing your experience. You say riptide bushings is what evolve uses? I really want to put some quality bushings on the onsra. I agree, I had to pay 8% sales tax on the evolve which was $130. The onsra had higher shipping but no tax. Evolve was 130 tax 40 shipping. Onsra was 80 shipping but with the new onsrausa.com the shipping will be less but I wonder if we will have to pay tax there?
@@kurtis211 I have 95a cones and 96a cylinders. They are stiff but once moving 5+ miles/ hr still quite maneuverable. And ultimately achieves safe top speed. And I'm 205 lbs. The road has to be smooth to be safe.
How about portability? Board weight is a factor, but when most pick up the front truck and drag, the question becomes which board has the better motor clearance with the front truck in the air? It would also be helpful to know your height, as height impacts the drag angle.
Thanks for the suggestion. I am 69in tall. Both will drag the motors on the ground. I pick it up from the back trucks and drag it around with the front truck on the ground. Both can stand straight up and the front nose of the board does not hit the ground. Hope this helps.
@@BlankofMaterial no problem, pulling them around is super simple. Standing it up against a wall is a pain. I put the motors up but then the front wheels on the ground want to roll and it falls to the ground.
@@Ramatorix for me the front grab is important for my riding flow. I trail ride up to crossings, hop off, grab the front and drag across to the other side, then as I'm walking I lay the front down with a push and hop back on. Keeps my momentum. I could do the same by grabbing the back but would risk grabbing hot motors, maybe? It would be nice if belt setups allowed for a more vertical motor position, for a bit more versatility.
Hey buddy, I know this probably isn’t the rite place to post this but I’m very interesting in riding on the beach!! I just got a Onsra, and I’m waiting for the AT wheels but I still don’t think sand is going to be a good idea? Anyway, I saw a e-unicycle, not the on wheel, the once’s that look like a suitcase w/flip out foot pedals.(what are they actually called) I’d definitely like to kno more about these uni’s . I just don’t wanna rush in and wast money on junk.. luv ur videos and lovin my Black Carve, plz message or pm wut ever it’s called... thx so much
I have no idea what those are called either. I do know that your best option for ridding on the beach is a one wheel or a segway. Anything with a really wide tire.
I'd be curious to know which of your three belt boards coasts the furthest on flat ground. Take them all up to the same speed, let go of the throttle and measure the distance.
I will have to try this, bit will have to do it on cloudwheels so its all the same and fair. Thanks for the idea. If i guessed it would be evolve farthest, onsra close behind, wowgo way behind.
@@Ramatorix I've subscribed and am looking forward to the results. according to the website, Onsra ships with Abec 9 bearings. Evolve offers both Abec 9 and a generic ceramic bearing through their parts store, but I'm not sure what the board ships with. I'm going to guess it's the Abec 9 as they are cheaper, with the ceramic offered as an upgrade.
@@BlankofMaterial i can not be sure but I think the evolve had the ceramic bearings. I will say that with my experience the wheels play way more of a role in how far it it will go. Like 90% wheels 10% bearings. Out of the box the evolve goes the furthest, then onsra unless you use the 115mm rubber wheels, then the onsra is in last place.
@@Ramatorix in that case the durometer of the wheel material is something to consider as well. To compare apples to apples may be a challenge, but in the spirit if your Evolve vs Onsra review, compare their street setup as shipped.
I agree about the evolve parts are too expensive but support going to onsra I do not. Of course Fabi wants to get his boards out and you are a fantastic ambassador for him but he has one guy employed answering emails but no repair station like evolve. They will convey parts if need I suppose but evolve I can call on the phone and talk to a technician. I accept your assessments in this review but evolve gets very few points for a flexy board, batteri and enclosure which makes carving hard very fun. Also comfort...I do not weigh a whole lot and do not have that many hills so the evolve would be fine for me along with very hard acceleration from the start.
John, thanks for the perfect comment. So in the beginning of the video I explained you had to mover the criteria around to fit what is important to you and assign how much each category was based on your needs. See for me if the board cant go up hill it is worthless to me. I dont care about customer service because i wont ride it lol. This is why its so important to decided what board is right for you. Not let someone tell you!
@@Ramatorix Yes, I heard. You were very clear just those few things that I thought about. It's totally cool that you point out differences and what you prefer.
Hello, I know this video is a bit old and I love your videos. However just one thing. The Evolve GTR came out in 2019 when all copies did not exist and they now sell the Hadean. In terms of this video one of these boards come with a flexible deck, battery pack and enclosure. The other a stiff painted wooden plank which makes it cheaper to make the battery and enclosure. Take care and make more videos.
The evolve starts nice but the electrical side of it, must of been designed by a recently graduated electrical engineer. If the ESC doesn't burn out then the motor will. I wouldn't let me worst enemy ride that board. All my points go to onsra with the exception of a single point going to evolve for a slightly easy to swap out battery packs.
Thanks so much for sharing your opinion. Everyones opinion in the comments really help others decide what is the best board for them. Take care and be safe.
@@Ramatorix good all around review Bro. I always wondered why ppl pay so much money for a board that many cheaper ones do the same or most of the time even better. Lee write did a open electronic review and he showed how poor the electronics where put together and they made him take the video down the same day.lol. not cool. Of we can't have an opinion I have no respect for them. But thats my feel. I thank you so much for purchasing the board to give us a super honest review as always.. thank you...
I really like your points and that you are sharing your experience as everything unfolds, your content is very usefull to our community. But don't you think you could have said the same in a 15 minute video? I think you need more takes if you are gonna have valuable information through out 30 minutes. Not only the one and you talking and shaking. I love how we are growing as a community and you have a ton of valuable information, I just think you could grow your channel faster and with a bit more work on it. I hope you have a great weekend
Dino, I agree that this one was a little long. I will work on shortening the videos in the future. Thanks for the comment and suggestion. Take care and be safe
@@guilhermerovida5488 i bought the belt drive so I could swap out pulleys and make it better for me and my needs. But I have heard good things about the direct drive. With belt drive if you want bigger pulleys to gear it down for torque and hills you can. With dd what you get is what you get. Only way to change torque is to change wheel size. For me it belt drive.
I did not lol, probably should have. I paid 1400 for the onsra and 1750 for the evolve. Both were on sale when I bought them. With out sales the evolve is 1800 before tax and shipping, onsra is 1450 before shipping. Prices will change though. The onsra with a bigger battery will probably be more expensive.
Great videos!! Can anyone tell me where I can find bushings harder than 100a Since I’m pretty new at skating I really need a tight set up to ride at speed comfortable. And the 100a that come on the Black carve are actually bulging out a bit after I tightened them.. also do you thin those exway machined washers would help, a lot of people say they really make a difference. If so do I need to order two sets because of the double k pins?? Thx
Go to ripitide website and talk with them by email, I don't know your weight but you don't need a 100a bushing, there is some formulas better for high speeda, like downhill riders go over 60+ mph.
Exlnt comparison ,for myself these two were on the final choice& was leaning to the DD onsra which I should have gotten! Then Bound DD came along with the D3 it had a drop down deck & came with the 105 windmill rubber wheels 14amp battery ,I’ve had it now 4 weeks ,traveled 400meters & waiting for new DD kit ? Should have gone with you Fabian , I’m curiouse if your inclined to do a review on Bound boards DD ,for me the top of the list goes with customer support when your going to spend this kind of $ you want to know there’s a fix to your problembs , stay safe ,travel well 🙏🏻😌
Damn, thanks for that info. I've just checked the Bound Board D3, that looks great, gonna compare specs with Onsra. Sounds awful for it to break within 4 weeks with their support being only 180 days as well. I'd love to see comparison reviews for DD boards !
Sno Whiter no my friend not 4 weeks riding! 5mins& 400meters on the board riding ? But having been going down this rabbit hole , and learning something on the way , just check every bolt & adapter before riding !after all you have to trust this thing at speed ,stay safe & as always travel well 🙏🏻😌
Byron, sorry for the late response youtube did not notify me of this comment. That sucks your board broke but it will happen with all manufacturers. It is good to hear they are taking care of you. I want to try a DD board but for my area being able to swap pulleys to gear it down is almost a must. I have seen the bound boards and like the looks of their stuff. If it is a 12s 14 ah battery maybe this could be the next board I buy.
Ramatorix eSk8 reviews hi there no sweat , thanks for the reply ,customer support & Mr Chen offered me very little support ,excuse me . I decided to order a complete new DD at my expense for the sake of spare parts ,after supplying bound with numerous videos of my problem & defects in videos ,the only reply from bound is when my visa transaction failed the first time in ordering the replacement DD ! But after hearing today from another dissatisfied customer I should have been more persistent as they finaly resolved his issue ,well done Bound , but as for my near complete silent issue ? I’m not a rude person ,they have me over a barrel , talk ,no talk ,I knew straight away this was not just some bearing issue ,like I said I have spare parts , like if I have to replace a week axle that’s bent ? Another bad can , hope to god it’s not a funky vesc over heating , Esk8ers talk a lot I wish I had gone deeper into more research as I have due to this covid madness , you seem to manage to give an logical endurance performance perspective on your boards & reviews, the ones that have on Bound are please excuse one trick pony’s , yes this board looks great ,has a lot of potential , & for a brief moment ,ever so brief felt it , that’s why I’m persistent , if I was to recommend this board for you to buy ! I honestly couldn’t , but you have already my 2 other affordable choices I would have picked , it would be an interesting competition , you have a good following ,hit bound up for demo model to test , I know there not the same motors , but can the underdog take on its closest competition ?in there price range , hey look excuse my tone , I’ve been chewing on this while in lock down too mutch , & I feel like my dog waiting for the postman for my replacement parts ,so I’m just kind of venting , so where ever you are stay safe ,& as always travel well 🙏🏻😌
@@byroncornuel4101 i can just imagine your frustration. Wow after reading how they handled your situation I think if I am going to spend my money it will go to Onsra. I am all about comparing boards but not if bound is a POS or if they do not stand behind it lol. I am sorry you had a bad experience. Keep us posted on how the new parts do. Stay safe!
Aaron, thanks so much for the info. I went on a amazing ride on the evolve today but it was struggling up hills lol. I need to get bigger pulleys for it. The cloud kit cant come soon enough. Hope it helps it. Take care and be safe.
Ramatorix eSk8 reviews your gonna like the evolve at setup on the onsra better I’m getting 29mph on ats but range kinda suffers, about 12miles to a charge balls to the wall rideing.imseeing 18 to 20 miles on the evolve but that’s at 20 mph then gets down to about 14 15 towards the end
Ramatorix eSk8 reviews sorry man ordered it before I found your channel. I’m in South Africa 🇿🇦 so everything takes forever here. I fortunately found a used one month old stoke that I’ve been using while waiting for the GTR.
@@Ramatorix from what I hear it will be the last board you'll ever need..or you can keep buying wow go's until it Equal s out to what a lacroix costs consider it seriously i hear they are amazing
@@indianaeuc7617 the thing is a eboard review channel is not going to do well if I only buy 1 board for the rest of my life lol. Maybe when we have 100k subscribers they will send me one for review lol.
@@Ramatorix dude have you had any issues with your deck since the screw incident.. ive locktight all of them down and about four days later today actually I saw that three screws were so loose they could of fell out with one more ride i reached out mabey they will fix the issue by sending a stiff deck..we will see ?
