Evolving AI Art 

💕 this. IMAGINE. A GOOD JAMES WEBBEYE 👁️ TO ADD TO IT. AMAZING 🤩 THUMBS UP !!

This newfangled "ai art" stuff is depressing as hell. It will change what being an artist is, it will throw most artists in the dustbin of history. Art is now obsolete, worthless, just something a machine can automatically spit out. Non artists will somehow think that are artists, and true artists will be forgotten. I hate the 21st century. I hate world the new generations are creating. This sucks, entirely. fuck ai art!

you forgot the point that this AI work by taking "reference" of the millions of art posted in the internet. It does NOT create by themselves, but has billions of images made by others artist saved and use other art to recreate an image. Many of the picture you showed, I already saw, made by other Artist or even Pictures. So if you never saw this kind of art, it is maybe, because you never search in the various art community this kind of art. Sadly like in every business there is one kind of thing (in this case art-style) that is heavy sponsored like in Music. But if you search you find it. In few words the AI helps you with research of pictures, because you are maybe too lazy to search or because you do not know where to start. But this software NEVER create, it just replicate.

and it gives you the feeling that you are part of the process...but you are not.

@Red Tide Someone in NY won in court because they turned the images into a product they made, comic book of raw "AI splicing". This is a birth of a new way of creating that even a child could dream up and in the future there will probably be artists specifically creating for the database. Maybe all the money from the previous version can fund those peoples lives.

see this is why instead of art, im studying compsci, gotta be on the side of robots once the revolution happens ;D

@@ejsafara456 I'm doing the same for the same reason but i find it an interesting paradox, because we're the ones creating these, surely we will be the last to lose our jobs but at the same time technally we are writing programs that write themselves. so maybe we will be gone faster than we think.

AI don't generate pic's with story/reason behind them, so artists still be welcomed in society.

@@user-ru3ll6fx9v idk man, just hook up the ai to random word generator :x and we already have ai writing articles and such :b

@@user-ru3ll6fx9v it can duh😑

Even better, Can't wait for AI to start mass producing and distributing worldwide!

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Well, we now have latent 3D NeRF explorer. I think science fiction is not keeping up

​​@@escher4401 I think that "It's NeRF or nothing" is pretty NEAT 😂

We are living a sci-fi world.

And we realize that's also what artists have been doing. Mathematics asks: What is the space of imaginable universes? (i.e. patterns made of rules) Science asks: What are are the properties of this universe? (i.e. Which universe - pattern of rules - do we live in, of all imaginable ones) Art asks: What changes to the rules can we imagine, and what can we bring back from these alternate universes? In principle, one can imagine that a simulation of any hypothetical reality exists in the mathematical space of possibilities. I'm not saying all reality reduces to math or can be contained in it - that philosophy ain't so simple - but a simulation, sure. Whether our reality is large enough or has the right properties to even run certain simulations is a separate problem. The point is, the simulation exists in the pattern-space of mathematics. And maybe by accessing alternate realities similar to ours we can learn things about actual reality. So artists can be said to be accessing alternate realities (at least virtual ones) via the simulation abilities of our mind. The current AI results are the outgrowth of creating and training AI models capable of simulating real images. The actual result is that they simulate non-(immediately)-real images too. Neat. Evolution as commonly accepted is in principle much the same - it creates organisms hypothetically fit for alternate realities, but only some of them are compatible with our reality as well. So to some degree it reaches into alternate realities to extract information about its own. These thoughts are a work in progress, but hopefully they might make someone's day more interesting.

@@cliftut but before, only artists could travel into that world but now everyone can.

well yeah id say thats because almost all of image space is just white noise. but theres defos a bigger amount of images that would mean something to us that these ais can generate. which is a god thing i think, dont want to build rome too fast.

Or you take a formate and play through all possible pixel constellations, there may be a lot of noise but also everything imaginable picture like Mona Lisa and Einstein riding on the Sphinx in the morninglight of Quebec with both having pink bananas in their, em, seven front limbs so far ...

That's already possible. The bottleneck is gameplay. You can generate an infinite variety of visuals, but they don't DO anything. Compositing and mixing behaviors is yet unsolved, as our understanding of the consciousness that drives behavior is bound to physical bodies, which computer-simulated agents aren't. Even if we could generate behaviors, there's no guarantee they make any sense, or be entertaining to interact with. Having said that, it's only a matter of time until we can generate entire video games by prompt. How long, is uncertain.

We are starting to see this in the blender community. I believe there are already prototype AI for procedural textures, UV textures, and I believe bump maps. There might be one for mesh, but while it's easy to make an AI create models, it's incredibly difficult to get it to do so properly, so you get a lot of weird mesh that doesn't make sense or artifacts from the noise. I think we'd find more potential in using AI as a controller rather than as an artist. For example, you (a human) can make a bunch of body parts with specific parameters for size, texturing, etc (imagine like Spore but more advanced), so you wouldn't have something with no mouth and radio static as skin. Have those models as a template, and then use something like geometry nodes to morph between them and arrange them in various orientations. Then have the AI on the game side control those nodes, so it chooses which of the already pre-modeled body parts to put, where, and with what texture. This would be more on the world generation side, turning the game into the dwarf fortress loading screen for a while but then you get a procedural experience when you load that save. As an artist, this tech is very interesting and I look forward to what humans can do with it. But as I say to people who are concerned about AI, the human element is always going to have to be there because AI is too capable - it can create an infinite number of outputs, but like with the library of babel, without a human it's wasting resources on something totally useless.

@@benji45645You're right. It needs human interaction and guidance. The fact that we have the tools now to make it happen is really exciting. Btw, If you know of a model that generates bump maps like you mentioned from photos i'd love to see it. The best program I've found is Materialize, and that's not AI. I feel like AI could do much better.

​@@hyperteleXii don't see why you wouldn't make a database with behavior information on humans, animals and evolution. Use it to train AI and simulate-test it to produce viable behavior, like an evolution simulation. You could also do this for all the aliens on the planet, so they would have complicated relations, things like eusocialism, parenting, symbiosis.. etc and things that don't happen on earth but might be succesfull in the simulation test. But that's probably not gonna be practical to do for a game with infinitely generated map.

@@ustanik9921 It's difficult to encode behavior as information. Results can be measured, but *why* did the animal do that? AI generated behavior will thusly *resemble* animal behavior, but have no logic to it = Falls apart upon inspection.

Don’t text-to-image models already do that?

@@Infiny92 yes, this is how they are trained in the first place. They start off in the hypothetical library of babble, generating random noise. But are then trained against the subset of human imagery. So in essence, with respect to language used in this video, the space AI models are in is the subset of babble that which pertains to human experience. And when you are following these “evolutionary trees” you are exploring the already curated space.

since stable diffusion is open source, something A little like this has been made. They call it textural inversion and it lets you take in A bunch of images that share something in common and assign A made up word/tag to describe that thing. Then you can include this new subject into any other prompt by adding this new tag to the prompt. Most demos I see of it are people using pictures of themselves to allow adding them by name to any prompt. I also saw one trained on pokemon that could make fictional pokemon with the features of various US presidents in the pokemon art style. That was pretty cool.

It means you're out of gpu memory, which depends on your hardware. I'd just go to playgroundai.com to use SD for free.

There's already AI out there used to help writing scientific papers. So yeah!

no artist can encapsulate so much knowledge and creativity

Perhaps an artist is really less creating something new and more exploring image space with the strokes they make on the canvas. the strokes they chose to make come from their gained understanding of the objects their brain was trained to understand, and they are combining those mental understandings of form and shape to create newly discovered images on the canvas. The images already exist in babble, they just haven't been discovered. Now the artist can use tools of language to pull out images from the image space. Perhaps less precise than the brush stroke, but faster and more of an iterative process. in this way the artist is not replaced (at least not directly though the barrier for entry may be lowered and the old ways of artistic profit threatened) but granted new tools in the exploratory process.