Ex Microsoft Employee tells secrets on why Windows 10 bugs exist 👨‍💻 - @Barnacules 

Windows 10 - free telemetry and worth every penny

I thought RTM stands for Release To Manufacturing? Not media...

You made me laugh with the reference to "Your computer isn't ready for this update yet". Hey, my computer is fine. It's the update that isn't ready for my machine! 8)

@@Jpetersson Shhhh! The Barnacules is speaking!!!

@@nakyer Shhh!

Absolutely!

Especially when you´re using Home Edition yes.

More like alpha tester with Microsoft's management not being even interested on getting most bugs corrected before pushing patches out. Otherwise they would still have proper own testing department.

not millions. BILLIONS.

Among the reasons Windows 10 is for free. Ironically, Linux OSes are also for free and crash far less often.

just another company run by cheapskates, to hell with the customer

Impossible; there are no genius execs at Microshaft.

@@bvnseven One had already assumed that fact self evident...

Anti-consumer practices are everywhere.

@@CognizantCheddar Doesn't mean we should put up with them

I see what you did there , and cant be more supportive of it !

LoL

Yeah...my turds contain plenty of peanuts...Hopefully the turds that laid off Jerry are allergic 😂

Don't wipe, it makes it harder for them to find the bugs.

@@Barnacules You're probably correct, but at this point in my life after dealing with Microshit's problems since even 95 ( I skipped vista ftr). I'm doing being a beta tester for them. The only thing keeping me from going 100% linux right now ( which I"m ..almost there) is getting the last remaining corner of the world gaming able to work... such as Crysis 3 via ea's shitty Origin launcher. That's basically it. regardless Jerry, You are an asset to the modern world good man. I hope people remember your name, your vibe, you intentions as well as your accomplishments. It's people like you that still help make Windows tolerable. cheers. good man.

matthew kühl Add to that the "forum based support" where basically users help each other for free and we are almost in the open source realm. Should just publish the code and let us fix it at this point.

@@webspec I'm shocked; You don't get real help from MS support personnel? And instead the IRL persons willing to share? Shocked I tell you. /sarcasm

"Shove it out the door ASAP and worry fixing it later." And nothing ever gets fixed, from OS's to Browsers which just need constant updating, and games that end up being fixed by "unofficial" user-created patches (Bethesda games)

*laughs in bleeding edge arch linux*

and makes us to pay as well

Eww that shit was horrible ...i remember that crap

Vista wasn’t that bad.

@@TheUltamatium yes it was the worst

@@Jesujej Windows ME: would like to know your location.

I never had an issue with it really. I skipped 7. Shrug nothing to brag about. Its all the same now will just use what is installed.

lol!

My insider edition Win 10 worked better than the 8.1 of the time though. Win 10 has gotten more bugs as we go it seems

That's a great way to put it.

@Joe I wouldn't say the industry, I'd say the corporate entities that own the game studios about which you're complaining. Just being literal. :P

Sadly early access and public betas have nothing to do with betas or bug fixing. If you have taken part in a true closed beta where you a tually sign an NDA In return for some co pensation, you will get to test the product including some games. (had a chance to do a AAA game many years ago), and during that process which usually came after the internal QA team was done. You could report a bug and issue it a priority, and usually within a few hours someone from the dev team may contact you if more info was needed, or if specific dumps were needed. A real beta while you will be paid less than your time is actually worth, is still fun and rewarding since you get to test what would be a feature complete product, and have your feedback actually be valued with personalized attention.

So that's why you get all the BSODS. Because you in the insider program? Isn't that what you could expect when u use a not stable version of Windows?

You sound bitter. No wonder you got fired.

i'm on 1903 fast update builds and i can verify that DISM and system restore is still BROKEN and shits the bed when it comes to the Microsoft Store. I had to reinstall the latest WIB. Feels sluggish...but working. R5 1600x - Asus X370-f Gaming/Strix RX 480- vengeance rgb pro 3200c16 CJR - ar938X WIRELESS

I love bash, I never find bugs in bash.

M M I’m not in the insider program.

Yeah, but don't you still have to boot Clonezilla from usb, then do the backup? I'd rather use Macrium Reflect, at least the drive image can be done while you're still using Windows, no downtime.

Boot clonezilla from a boot loader like grub or clover. Ye I uploaded some vids already above this. If you too noob just watch a vid

please !!!

@@hycron1234 I use Clonezilla's boot to ram from CD, then remove the CD media. Win10 bugs are no problem then, everything is straightforward.

Serpent77 more like TL;DW

So that's why Microsoft gave me Windows 10 for free. I'm the unpaid tester! D:

@@togwam yeah, I knew I was leaving myself open to that one if I went with the common acronym :p

Serpent77 I really hope no hard feelings, I don’t like to ridicule or destroy anyone’s confidence

@@togwam nawww, we're cool, I chuckled that someone called it out so fast ;)

All they had to do was grab a copy of the prefetch folder or turn on task mgr with the mini dump. Then test all the software people were using on their boxes not ours. Some Microsoft Developers were good, others were college kids doing their first gig. I could run different year versions of Delorme Street Maps on the same laptop and it worked. That is rock solid skill. Apparently they changed Visual Studio too much, and you can not make tablet versions of some software always. Delorme was bought out and not exists now. Microsoft street maps was not as good. None of them are, especially the apps. They wanted to charge for arial photos, bye bye? Get used to buggy software and upgrades you do not want on free stuff I guess.

@@marlinlenchanteur4260 Compatability my friend, there is a trade off. Even proton or wine doesn't run everything Windows can. Also there's the stubbornness of not wanting to change what you use.

Linux yes, MacOS not so much. The only thing MacOS has going for it is that they don't even _try_ to support most hardware, accessories, or third party app workflows. Finding a Linux distro that isn't a hot mess is actually more of a needle in a haystack than it was ten years ago, too. It's all a flaming train wreck of toxic practices. Monetized services are ruining everything they touch.

Fedora linux is awesome!

If you hate Microsoft then use Linux :)

Salt that wound baby

No. Don't give them ANYTHING. Let them hire back the testing team to get their own details as to why it crashed.

@@ThejusRao That would be ideal, but I need these stupid machines to stay online. Keeping things running outweighs ideological desires. That said, I am almost finished migrating the MSSQL servers to RHEL. I might have to deal with the desktops, but fewer Windows servers make me happy.

Change users over to Linux, problem solved

@@IncendiarySolution ROFL. Sure, because Internet Explorer and Excel work great in Linux! I should specify I work in the financial services sector. You would have to get all the banks and trading platforms to switch to HTML5, and Microsoft to make web based excel work with all the scripts/plugins as the local version does. To give you an example; I recently deployed a terrible trading platform that keeps me awake at night. Requirements were Windows server, UAC disabled, firewall disabled, all sensitive files stored on network share with "everyone allow all", all clients get the sa password to the database, and all clients get UAC disabled.

Supposedly Zuckerberg had said at one time about application development to throw it together, release it, and then see what breaks. Apparently Microsoft thinks the same.

Some bugs I have had over several years and several different computers. If I didn't need windows for my games I would never use it again.

Send it in the mail along with faeces

There have been times I have wanted to lock them in one of their buildings and light it on fire. Oh wait did I say there have been times? I mean pretty much every single day for the last 10 years.

HAHAHA no doubt!

This comment made my day, thank you George! 👍

It's a negative cycle: companies undervalue QA, so all the talented engineers avoid QA, which lowers the quality of QA work, which leads to companies further undervaluing QA...

I guess Microsoft are still finding their feet on how fast they can make their development cycle. The old way found more bugs but the OS needed to pick up the pace of feature releases. I guess look at where Windows 10 is today and all the cool things being built into it. Under the old product cycle, it simply wouldn't have happened. As an enterprise customer I like the 19H2, 20H2, etc concept. Let's make H2 releases about stability and slow up the pace of how fast features come out. Even Apple only release once a year.

@Dhir Am same :) using win7 right now. and will keep using it until it becomes unusable... which it won't for a while

@Dhir Am this goes with most software/UI these days. Let's move everything to a web-based engine just because we can that somehow has less functionality than previous versions at the cost of more performance! I fucking hate this trend of flat, overly simplistic icons together with shitty web-based interfaces that make your computer fans become turbine engines

Good points, especially the diversity > skill nonsense. Also I would add: * Rapid/fixed release cycles forcing updates to be pushed based on a deadline, resulting in code being released that isn't ready or "well we have to change *something*" * The "-Werror" issue, where correct code may be rejected simply because it causes compiler warnings or triggers static analysis.

Couldn’t agree more. I won’t say where I work but I am a Software Engineer and one of our new hires was more than clearly a diversity hire. I have no issue with diversity, I do have an issue that he has absolutely no skills needed for his role. The other issues like agile, the insane time frames and expectations they have of us... it’s all a problem. Right now we’re moving a lot of on premise apps to Azure and the new automated code checks have been a nightmare.

Agile seems to produce great marketing, not great products.

I agree with you on the diversity hire aspect. People are treating meritocracy as a bad thing and emphasizing your race or ethnicity. Also, being hired based on the color of your skin instead of what you bring into the table is actually very insulting and you could argue that it is actually racist.

Agile actually works very well. It's just that most organizations implement it very badly or completely wrong. If agile methodology is causing more issues than it's solving then someone up the chain has failed to understand what it's for and how to use it properly and just tried to adapt waterfall to it by eliminating planning and testing to make waterfall fast instead of becoming agile. In my experience, a lot of times it comes down to poor choices being made in metrics, what to measure and why, without considering what they're actually incentivizing by measuring that thing. For example, the company that tried to clean up their environment from the malware they kept getting on user endpoints by giving employees a small bonus for finding malware on a system and reporting it. Sounds like a win win, right up until they had someone bringing in a CD full of malware and infecting the system over and over again so he could get the bonuses. To use agile properly and effectively, you have to start by measuring and rewarding the right things, otherwise you get needless software churn for no reason other than to bump metrics and look good to poor management wanting to see agile "working well".

The funny thing is that there is a RU-vid channel named "Switched to Linux"

@@esra_erimez I'm aware.

@TarekT My first Linux install was SUSE 6.3. I couldn't do anything with it back then, so I switched back to Windows2000, and then installed Deus Ex just to give you some idea of how long it's been since then. I got rid of my Win7 drive almost four years ago because I hadn't actually booted into it in six months. Fedora has been my daily driver for going on five years, and I was dual booting for a few years previous(mainly Ubuntu). I really recommend people looking to stop being abused by Microsoft to check out PopOS! or Mint(IT Professionals would be better served with Fedora or CentOS because Red Hat). Your favorite Windows game probably runs via SteamPlay. If not Lutris is a safe bet.

@TarekT i used to run kubuntu too but it had a issue with Ethernet cable. Now using mx Linux and loving it

I'd love to see that :D

Matthew Wallen I thought this was common knowledge for a long time.

It's what happens when you get rid of software QA. Bad things. Very bad things.

@rustybuttpate maybe you should change your password

@@circuitbreaker1434 I changed mine to windowstux, clearly more secure /s

Fire good guys first, so they dont stop somebody starts doing bad things.

@@curt8806 agree to disagree. You can write code that finds bugs and problems , but at the end of the day the people fixing it are humans. As a developer when I have a QA guy tell me here's the issue , here's a scrwen shot , here's a video. It literally takes me about 10m to at least realise oh ok. Any time I get a user reported bug or through something automitatdd , I could spend 3 days chasing a codebase which might not even be the issue.

Abe Plus Exactly.

I agree with you. Why testing that actually works isn't worth it?

Rule 39 (NCIS reference)

Brains Ironically I’m required to take a little bit of responsibility for that one ☝🏻

Hey, Vista was actually good in the last years of support! I stopped using it in 2017. It was bad at the beginning, but after years of patches it became pretty usable.

So do we get our pitchforks?

@@comicsanz97 I'd use vista ultimate today. Since I have access to better hardware now lol

Vista seemed awful at the time, but I learned it at a job where I had been using 7 at home already...I ended up realizing that Vista is basically 7 under the hood, with more memory usage and a much more difficult to understand UI. But once you learn it, it's 7, and it was actually pretty good!

Forbes, lol.

More Main Stream Media idiocy. He can't be a whistleblower, as he doesn't work for them anymore.

Well he is doing "something" which is talking about computers 🤣

Wooooosh

@@TheSenseiKai Imagine writing woooosh on a joke and woooshing yourself lol.

@@gromgardenlor wooosh

Gromsterino 😂😂😂

by CDMC Dude if he made tutorials on proper things to enable/disable on windows 10 from an “ex-employee” standpoint he would get a lot more attention. There’s a lack of RU-vid content on windows 10 issues, how to prevent them, what hardware is affected with updates, actual changes from one version of windows to the next and barnacles would be perfect for that. I hope he reads this and gets back into it because a lot of people would really appreciate the insight/help!

Send it to Microsoft.

Taking a mini dump right now...

broo im eatingg

16 mins to take a full dump?!!

Hearing the words Windows 10 and Microsoft increases bowel movement in any human .

There is truth to this but VERY little of the original code remains since it had to be updated to support 32bit and 64bit platforms.

@@Barnacules Aren't they dropping 32bit support soon? Thought I saw that somewhere....maybe that was android or something.

This is like saying the Linux kernel doesn't have ancient remnants, which it absolutely does have. This is true for all old OSes

NickyNiclas Hm. That's also true.

@@Dougie085 Ubuntu almost dropped 32 bit support and OSX did drop it

google Zorin, it's as close to windows as any of the Linux distros. I have one box left with windows7

I thought that I'd always use Windows 7 but recently upgraded to Windows 10, and honestly, it's nowhere near as bad as people make out. The most pressing thing is really that you need the hardware to run it properly.

I'm probably going to go back to Windows 7 myself. i hate 10 so much.

Welcome ✋✋

@@exagol8921 I tried Windows 10 and no matter what I tried I couldn't make half of my hardware to work properly. It's absolute garbage.

You can turn off Window 10 update, that being said its a bit annoying having to install security update manually.

@@Verpal officially or with work arounds or third-party?

@@lopwidth7343 Turn off Win 10 update only require simple registry change, perhaps turn off most telemetry whilst you at it. To turn off telemetry and Intel ME as much as possible though, third part tool required.

so many things to turn off, may as well get into gpedit and whack them all out in a few hours and make a backup imagine of it so you don't have to tune windows again. yeah... why its not this way out of the box is nothing but total bullshit on Microsoft's parts, the auto updates aren't even the bad part.

Check out Sledgehammer - Windows 10 update control do a search for it been working great for me. If only it was as simple as editing the registry to stop the updates. I have been on 1703 for a long time now with nothing pushed. I am responsible for a handful of computers they are getting devious with the updates all the steps to manually stop them. I honestly wish more people knew about that program is has saved me a lot of headaches. I could go on with all the problems with the updates.

Don’t sell it, lease it to them...with costly future expansions. ;P

Do you charge by the ton, cubic foot or number of 🥜.

With regular updates

@@rangerdoc1029 As long as he's regular. 😁

You want to give Microsoft your form of Windows 10? 😁

They can't even make C# work.

Candy crush don't reinstall it's self. it doesn't come with the os.

It does come with win 10

I'm about to do that but my fucking laptop won't detect the bootable usb drive of Arch Linux :v

@@ShivamJha00 my old, like old laptops, have a boot keypress, like F9 to choose the boot device, from there I could choose usb. but it was not automatic.

Have fun trying to get devices, sound and software. I use linux for specific purposes, but unless all you do is surf the web you are severely limited by the OS and have more issues to deal with on linux than windows.

​@@ShivamJha00 in that case try another currently maintained distro, remember with Linux you have a choice. But Arch is one of the almost-down-to-the-bare-metal distros and has an adoption curve steeper than Everest.

@@ShivamJha00 Try Mint instead.

I'm interested as well!

Yes please!

Yessss

Yep I would like this as well.

Please video on clonezilla. I tried once and well didn't get that far

Optical media, sound cards, flight sticks and trackballs! Yep it's still the 90s up in here :x

@@pdraggy I also have a trackball mouse!

Now I feel bad man, but I'll probably install from optical media in my Windows reinstall video coming up.

@@Barnacules Nah, don't feel bad, Jerry. Great video, by the way!

@@pdraggy bought a MS Sidewinder FFB2 for 30€ a month ago. Almost 20 years old and still works on Win10 which is a complete miracle.

Cool story bro. How can you tell somebody is a Linux user? Don't worry, they'll tell you.

@@Metal-Possum How can you tell a slave to Bill Gates and Microspy? They attack Linux users.

The day my steam library can run on Linux or something not owned by Apple I'll gladly ditch windows, assuming whatever that is also has good software for various other tasks as well.

Me too. Despite the steep learning curve it has been well worth it. 10 from day one sucked for me and I seemed to be one of those they to keep pushing windows to first. I went back to 8.1 at first, till a few years later, my hardware would only work on 10. But after a year of major issues, including files been deleted. I had had enough. By then Linux had gotten to the point that it was work able. Where as 2 years before when I had poked at it and given up due to graphic card issues. It now worked :-) Linux has improved in leaps and bounds in the last few years. I'm still learning 6 months later some of the basics. But the first month was the hardest for me. I'm not exactly an expert at computers. But I'm not clueless either. Know just enough for it to be dangerous, lol. Uncle Google has been a great help in solving issues. Help on line has become much more user friendly than it used to be. I don't feel like need a couple of degrees behind my name just to figure out how to get the computer to obey me anymore. For me Linux mint has been the easiest of the major distributions of Linux to work with. It is very windows like and extremely stable. I still haven't crashed it. Used the super easy timeshift (restore point) to fix any minor issues I may have caused while poking at it, before throwing something else at it.

@@ellisargamer9248 I am trying to make the switch to linux, but that was my problem too. Steam made an app called proton which pretty much enables most of its library on linux

I've been Beta testing PUBG for 2 years.

At least gaming industry actually does relevant beta testing sometimes.

@@BorgOvermind key word being 'sometimes'....

1C have to hand their IL-2 games over to dedicated fan developer teams eventually to sort out all their unresolved bugs and upgrade older titles.

@@nate_d376 Better than not at all, definitely.

Welcome aboard!

SinistaN To an extent... but keep in mind unit testing is only as good as the specs and the testing rules the developer is provided. If the developer is told to return a number and not told the rules, and doesn’t think to ask, an integer and a real both meet the spec, especially if the package can be overloaded and there are multiple constructor methods. Integration testing is the bitch... and that takes time. No one wants to take the time to write good specs any more but are quick to blame the developer for taking the fastest route.... especially if you have a dick of a PM that minimizes the analyst role and wants it done yesterday.

they threat it as if only 6 years old kids using windows. Yeah, absolutely hate how they bury functionality, especially when you need to fix another fail windows update that broke your pc.

You should look at the state of Google's ChromeOS, which is the only realistic competitor to Windows on desktops and notebooks. Same thing as Windows 10, essentially. And they don't even have to deal with weird hardware combinations.

As a Surface Pro 4 owner, Microsoft really failed doing the Apple thing where producing the hardware and software should lead to optimal results. With that said, I work with hundreds of Mac's in the enterprise space and quite simply they really suck when need to make them conform to configuration required in enterprises, Apple products want to be used in an Apple way, and when you want a Mac to do something else it always tries to bite you. Windows to this day still is the big fleet OS where it will typically do what you ask of it.

@@NJ-wb1cz Why should one choose closed-source Google rubbish when one could easily install something like Linux Mint?

@@keiganthetennessean1796 Yep. The problem is that it uses a mobile processor of the ARM architecture, which means that it cannot run x86 binaries of any type (whereas you can jerryrig an exe to run on Linux, for example, as it is still an x86 file)

@@keiganthetennessean1796 Lol that was by chance!

Couldn't agree more.

yep, it happens to my midi keyboard

just had a blue screen due to this the other day, on a less than 1 year old install

That's immediately what jumped out to me. It's even Windows 10, like even old Microsoft holdouts at least are clinging to 7 or even still XP if they're gonna bitch about 10 for a quarter of an hour. Hell, I would have even accepted a Mac convert. Like if you hate Microsoft *that much* then at least dual boot Linux for everything but that one or two programs that won't run under WINE.

Also note that he is running a heavily modified version of windows 10 that has everything disabled that is a privacy nightmare.

@@AniMerrill He doesn't hate Microsoft! He's explained it in one of his videos. There good reasons to use Microsoft once you can get around their some of their privacy nightmare which he shows how to do. If you won't accept him then get outta here. Hating Microsoft bcos they fired him is actually what would be pathetic!!

@@NphiniT Asalaam aleikum brother in iman, i dont hate the guy nor microsoft,i was just talking out my mind.

@@jamalahmed3396 Wa alaikum Salaam! Okay that's fine. There is a video on his channel where he explains his time at Microsoft, and his dismissal. He mentions that he stayed with Windows mainly because he is a gamer and most of the games he plays work seamlessly on Windows (among other reasons)

So I need to buy 2 of the exact same HW and run insider build on one of them with same SW config so bugs are going to be fixed before it is released to my main box, therefore doubling my TCO... Brilliant! I should probably pray really hard as well (that the reported issues were actually fixed, cause I have read that some bugs weren't fixed that insiders had reported previously on forums )...

The issues you send back get fixed? That must be a bug.

Mikael Isaksson 👍 which mint Edition you using? how do you like it?

Hey fellow Mint user.

SPOT ON!!!😎👍🏻

Agreed

Why exactly?

Sounds like Boeing

Greed will be the downfall.

Ruirodtube Nailed it.

You don't need to use Windows to make it crash......you just need to look/stare at it (and it will crash....[what is this thing looking at me....crashes, defenses deployed]).

Win 7 was incredibly stable if we compare with 10 now, and way, way less gossip (altho disabling really cortana and patching other things, it ain't that bad...). Here's still rocking one of those... until January, surely, end of w7 extended support. Dunno what I'll do then... can't use Linux, even while I *LOVE* it, professional software for graphics ain't running there, apart from Blender(should I say market-standard professional software, as Blender and Krita are better in some aspects than their counter parts. But for freelancing or at the job, sadly is still all about the standard, unlimited thingy. Specially sensational is Blender, it covers all my freaking 3D projects needs and more. And I do pretty advanced stuff, is not a hobby...). Wine is no solution, as a bunch of what I use doesn't run on Wine, usually not this tool's fault, but the usual protectionism of the market standard pro apps, which make it non compatible, I suspect that on purpose. And those who run, often find performance probs in comparison to run on Windows native. That's being improved, tho, but for now in my pro work, nothing to do there.

@@3polygons Get a system with many processing cores and a second graphics card. Then run Linux natively for everything you can use it for and do the rest in VM's. Even MacOS can be run in a VM these days and for Windows it's a minor thing. Just beware of code 43 if you use an Nvidia card that isn't a Quadro. But there are workarounds for this problem.

@@CheapBastard1988 That's a very good advice, I'll keep it in mind for when the time comes, will study the situation and multiple factors, then.

@@3polygons Last time I had Windows running on my computer it froze while defraging. But that was in the late 90s... I admit I did not have any data recovery experience back then but I did swear to never again have such shift happen on my pc. Now as a Gnu/OSS only user I am perfectly fine to have some alpha and beta and RC* software running and I don't refrain from filling bug reports, patching and so on. I even earned a paycheck as a tester for a few years when I worked for an Austrian company. But having the front desk employee, or the the chief accountant have to deal with this s*** it is simply unacceptable period. Whilst working at another company, I slowly I managed to to migrate most office computers to Linux based systems. Saved on costs by using refurbished computers and having decent if not excellent up times, not to mention serious corporation-grade security and and remote availability. Nothing my coleagues needed to do on those computers couldn't be done after switching. Even things that were never meant for networking were networked. And I started to have some peace, finally. The printing was just working, the computers were just running and usable and responsive. Then that company was bought buy another which imposed Windows systems installed and maintained by why their IT department (MS partners) and I cannot forget those days when the chief accountant was looking at her computer while Windows7 :was updating for the last 6 hours and she had to make the salaries. And they were running like pure crap. Laggy, unresponsive, they were seing each other in the network only on _special_ ocasions, not even mentioning network printing. And the MS bois were spending hours on those....Either remote or local, hours upon hours and the situation kept saming. And all I could do was to look at computers that were previously working fine and now now they are updating 8 hours a day followed by another few hours of reverting. They gave me the admin like two months before I quitted.

Until you can write a better OS that has to work on large number of hardware, stop knocking it.

W7 was awesome. I like some features of W10 but I *hate* the flat ugly icon look and they way they can't make up their minds about Control Panel.

Hello fellow penguin.

@@KingJellyfishII Hello!!!! :)

So can you run PLEX on it?

@@alexojeda9048 You mean PLEX as in the media server?

Thank you so much! I feel like I'm earning it! 😁

if only gaming were practical on a distro i'd have switched months ago.

How's that working for you do you recommend it

@@stephenrichardson2530 I've had to deal with some problems with audio that involved editing PulseAudio configuration files manually. I also had issues with screen tearing and had to manually edit the xorg config to resolve. I'm not sure if I'd recommend it for the average user just yet, but I'd tell people to try Linux on their machine and if they encounter a lot of problems then go back to windows.

@@XeonProductions thank you for your thoughts

Turk depends on which games you play. My experience is that running Windows games on Linux is hit or miss. The game will run great or not run at all.

Everybody hated on it at the time. Now years later people are saying how good it was. Obviously the same will happen with Windows 10, which I think actually is a great OS.

@@metallitech When you have multiple browser sessions opened on the desktop in Windows10, how do you move one browser window around on the taskbar so as to re-arrange the order from left-to-right? One would think simply Click&Drag, but for some reason that's never worked in Windows. As long as double-click within an open image doesn't already do anything, WHY ISN'T THAT A "GO-FULL-SCREEN" COMMAND? Why is scroll-wheel next/prev image, but if I change it back to normal zoom functionality then there's no option to assign anything else as "next/prev image"? WINDOWS10 is 90% of a great OS, but the 10% it missed and never addresses is shockingly annoying because of how small they are to fix and how constantly we have to run into them

Well Windows 7 has its base in Vista but with a lot of improvements. Vista was basically Windows XP with a lot of added code which were improvements for the most but made it slow. Windows 8 was supposed to be the OS for all devices: Phones, tablets, laptops, consoles and desktops so Windows 7 was too bulky for low power devices. Windows 8 wasn't a bad OS but the UI was awful without a touch screen. Windows 8 was also faster than 7 but you were more productive in Windows 7 because the user was bottlenecked by the terrible UI. I hated windows 8 and 8.1 and I switched to 10 because the UI was better but if I had known how it would turn out I'd have stuck with 8.1. I run classic start menu in Windows 10 as well so that doesn't make a difference either. Linux on the other hand has a very bare metal kernel which can be expanded to a feature packed distro like Fedora, a feature rich but not too bloated like PopOS, a lightweight distro like Ubuntu or a distro without even a UI like Arch. The variety in distro's makes it unnecessary to pack it with every feature that anybody may need as you can just customize the one that comes closest to your needs. Especially because of the "all devices one OS" philosophy Windows has to be able to do everything and isn't the best at anything. They could fix this by leaving out things that you don't need on a specific device (like on the XBOX) but one could suggest that could cause even more work in testing and bug reporting.

I remember the hate people had for xp. It’s after sp1 the users warmed up to it. I had a very rough transition from 98 to Xp (no me, that was a dog pile).

@@allajunaki Definitely! Most software for consumers wouldn't run properly on XP. Business users were fine as they transitioned from Windows 2000. My Pentium 4 with Geforce 4 Ti4200 build ran in dual boot for all of its lifespan but that was mainly for older games. Newer games like GTA Vice City ran better on XP SP1 than 9x but older games like Worms Armageddon wouldn't run at all on XP. Before SP1 though GTA VC would always crash if I had Creative EAX enabled and then drove past the Malibu club. May have been a driver issue in retrospect but those weren't updated very often due to the speed of the typical internet connection back then. XP took some time to warm up to but eventually it gave a very good user experience. But the security especially when considering user privileges was from the dark ages and was fixed (in the most annoying way) in Vista and perfected in 7.

Then again, Linux doesn't really have a lot going for it at the same time.

@@BackroomsSlayer you just wait.

@@MortalisPT Been hearing that for years. Also I hear this perpetual myth that Linux is free of exploits and viruses. There's millions. Deepin made Linux look pretty, but it's still unpolished. Software availability is still nothing compared to Windows. Software usability and deployment are still *nothing* compared to Windows. Heck, you'd practically need a degree in each piece of individual software just to figure out how to configure it properly. Once that's done, what do you have? A whole lot of background processes that the user never interacts with, and software with nonsense, garbled UI's.

@@juansolo1617 the last part is Windows by default already

@@juansolo1617 actually gnome desktop is really polished almost everything comes out of the box. 90 percent of the users won't use only Windows available software. Most of the Web browsers are available for Linux, and as word processor if they have a free option they will choose that option (libre office) for most of the time.

Linux programs crash? O.o

Gaming on linux is pretty damn good these days. Some games do refuse to work however most 'older' (

Nahuel That’s exactly what I do now. Debian for my everyday driver, Wintendo when I need it, though as the gaming experience gets better on Linux I need it less and less.

I've been hearing a lot of reports of driver incompatibility. That's another thing we tested vigorously when I was there was drivers. We had batteries of tests for sound cards, video cards and common peripherals like printers, etc.

@@Barnacules I think the loss of testers like yourself is felt more than Microsoft and other let on personally. I use to use a Sound Blaster Z for gaming and I recently moved on to an external DAC because I was tired of every time my rig updated Windows my sound would break until I removed all the drivers manually and reinstalled from the official release.

My windows store is gone, it says "you just be connected to the internet" I am, but it's dead. Good job it's full of crap.

@Jon Doe RP isn't a backup, Using RP won't restore lost data. All it really does is remove updates.

@Jon Doe Right, I don't even bother with Windows Restore it just seems like a waste of space, since if you lose data or get a virus, it's not going to help you. If my PC gets really messed up from corrupt data, I just reinstall windows again.

Really?

@@CanadianBullFrog Explains how they can develop Windows with so many bugs without encountering bugs on their development machines. Must be a pain to update Windows 10 for Devs at MS but nobody is doing jack about it.

@KMSMista Okay but then what will... like 99% of the world's hardware run on lol

If Microsoft got their shit together people like me wouldn't have to work 24 hours a day xD

Problem with that is that you can't get Enterprise or LTSC/LSTB versions of Windows 10 without a volume license agreement, unless you go down the pirating route which could be filled with just as much crap.

@@CobsTech You can change any current Windows 10 Home or Pro installation to Enterprise, and then activate it right from command prompt, no volume license required. Not sure if you consider that piracy or not, but either way, I don't see what kind of crap you expect to have to deal with.

Enthusiasts of Windows? Is that even a thing? I call them manipulated sheep.

@ Well, that certainly sounds very arrogant.

@@KesGaming How can you like that bad excuse of an operating system? You enjoy paying hundreds of dollars for barely functioning piece of crap and spending hours fixing basic issues? There's even no way to customize it. You can be a car enthusiast, Linux, smartphone, you may like flowers, music, painting or photography, but what kind of masochist likes Windows?!

Yeah I was one of the biggest sceptics what with being a Windows 7 user for 10 years, but honestly I've had no major problems with Windows 10. In fact I haven't been this excited by an OS in years. I think a lot of it comes down to people putting it on systems that really aren't powerful enough to run it properly.

Windows ME was a joke, too-- but I agree with you!

@@denny4941 windows me was before windows 7 , so at that point quality went up :)

Dont rip on Vista too hard, remember Windows 8?

It is my experience that Windows Vista AND Windows ME were the best (alright... "least bad") Windows versions. No kidding.