Examining JJ McCarthy, Bo Nix, Michael Penix Jr. throws at Combine | Pro Football Talk | NFL on NBC 

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Las Vegas

Denver

yes it would

Perfect in what way? That he played his college ball in the state of Washington? Both of this guy's wheels are already retreads!

@@scottgood7888 … Nobody is perfect then? Perfect for the Raiders with the 13th or 44th pick? Kirk Cousins is coming off of an Achilles injury and yet he got the biggest payday of ANY free agent this year. Penix is what he is .. a play action pocket passer that has a big arm with touch…. If the Raiders had a top 3 pick then Jayden Daniels would’ve been the guy….The absolute perfect guy the Raiders should’ve gotten was CJ Stroud last year? GM Zeigler had a trade ready to go allegedly but our loser, dip 💩 coach at the time Josh McDaniel didn’t want Stroud… he wanted the guy that Carolina took… and squashed the stroud trade…. You saw first hand how that worked out??? So now what’s left is Michael Penix jr. who with 2 bad wheels came in 2nd in the heisman last year… I watched him tear up Texas last year in the sugar bowl with 2 td’s and 430 yards ( with bad wheels) on New Years Day… didn’t bother me he came up short against Michigan last year. But the kid was stellar…. Nobody throws a better 🏈 than Penix in this draft… not even Caleb….The QB’s can do things better that Penix minus the injuries but not throwing the ball…. Opinions vary… but you get him cheap? …let him sit behind Minschew and learn and rest … in a year or 2 you just might have something? We’ll see? They compare Penix somewhat to Tua… and that dude has a ton of injuries … the Dolphins 🐬 just let Christian Wilkins walk in Free Agency ( thank you very much🙏) in order to save cap space so they can resign Tua next year? So past injuries don’t always determine a player’s abilities or future success? … Penix is the guy. JMO. 👍

Exactly lol

they can't justify a paycheck otherwise.... nature of the game.

The QBs who didn't throw are all wimps.

Waves!!

I think the game against Michigan proves otherwise. He is going to get pressured like that regularly in the NFL and he didn't perform well under pressure.

Hold your L dude is a back up in the nfl at best 💯

@@WEAPON-MRX I saw Herbert, Hurts, and Love throw four years ago. Herbert threw dimes everywhere. Hurts missed his receivers on intermediate and deep passes out of bounds, where only his receivers could catch them. Love missed his deep balls by 5 yards. Penix looked just like Herbert. Maybe better. McCarthy was somewhere between Hurts and Love. McCarthy needs a year to develop. He missed several passes behind his receiver. I wouldn't draft Bo Nix to be a backup. He had one of the weakest arms and didn't impress anyone with his accuracy.

McCarthy is the way, the truth, and the light to take a team to the promised land . He is NFL day one ready ....He should be first pick in 1st round. He's so much smarter than all the others.

@@ernestkovach3305 McCarthy is inaccurate with a big arm. The QB from Tennessee is a carbon copy. Milton is a ton cheaper. Needs the same coaching and development. McCarthy is a late one. Milton is an early two. Bias

Want to see him in Purple!

Problem is if he takes 3 yrs to develop teams gotta pay him millions to start as a Rook then make decision on extension based on just the 1 yr

@@dexterriley One of the attractive thing about JJ is he's been coached by Harbaugh in a prostyle offense for 3 years. He is ready to play from day 1. Teams won't open up the playbook, but he can step in and be a good game manager. Do what he does at best - control the clock, make a good 3rd down decision, and just don't make mistakes. he isn't out there to slinging it all over the place like rookie peyton manning.

Especially with QBs.

I like him, but he always looks like a Nazi to me

He is very informative but to me he sounds like he is drunk all the time 😅

I want him to fall to a team with a good OLine for that reason.

As a Viking fan I really hope we go defense round one and get Penix round 2.

At least he has shown the ability to return from injury and play at a high level at least among his current competition. Everyone has seen plenty of fully healthy QBs go high in the draft and play horrible for numerous reasons. You never know

Like the giants. Sits behind Jones for a year. Learns a Daboll offense. Giants continue to build the line and playmakers. Turn keys over to JJ. If I’m the giants I try to trade back a few picks and take JJ in the top 10

I don’t think y’all understand the system he came from like you think you do. I thought he needed another year in college, but he’s way closer than you think.

Lol, Predictions are all insane comments!

How many of those games were against guys who will be playing at the next level? Every QB ever drafted was fantastic while in college, however the majority of those guys fail because once they went up against NFL talent every week they were not the same player. Every single QB that became a bust had great college tape and it meant absolutely nothing.

@@jlv3x means more than the combine

⁠@@jlv3xcollege game is becoming more like the pros, look at how many rookies are starting to adjust to the NFL quicker than before, CJ stroud for example.

Games Attempts yards Bo Nix 61* 1,936 15,352 Jayden Daniels 55 1,438 12,749 Penix 48 1,685 13,741 Attempts negative or positive, are game reps and an opportunity to learn the position in a real game. All three had a lot of attempts. They have plenty of game tape on these guys. *NCAA Record

He didn’t care to try different situation

Would you believe JJ McCarthy has the same college stats as JaMarcus Russell?

Russell was missing a brain, like most of the failures in the National Felon League

It's a clean slate, where in college there might be scheme, or competition issues, that make it hard to compare to what an NFL team wants to do.

It's a job interview, bro. You can look at someone's resume all you want, but until you actually meet them, you don't know what you have.

But can he throw the football to guys that aren't wide open? Being a smart guy doesn't make you a smart QB. Being unselfish doesn't make you a good QB.

lol!!! Keep dreaming

@@larrylindgren9484 QB's can all throw the ball....it's what they do. Not all have the brains to outsmart what the defenses are doing. Coaching is a huge part of any QB's success also

The difference....Bryce has the production, McCarthy doesn't. Whenever he was asked to throw the ball more than 20x, it didn't look good. JJ certainly has the tool set but it's too early to say he will be successful.

@@future_teknokrat7585JJ has good production for the type of offense he was in

To play 3 seasons in college and attempted the same amount of throws than CJ Stroud did in 1 season at Ohio State. People said they didn’t see enough to judge Stroud, what the hell can be said about JJ? He attempted less passes than QBs people call run first QBs.

In games this past season in which JJ had more than 25 pass attempts in a game (5 games) his statistics were 110/163 1,280 yards 10 tds ZERO ints

​@@Hengel_Andrews football has become ultimate frisbee....probably a good thing for the game that the ultimate frisbee conference is now absorbed into the manball line of scrimmage conference.

You literally just heard that on tv and are acting like you decided that because your own mock draft skills lol

If you want to hide a QB in the offense like Michigan did with him. There's a reason he hardly threw the ball. They knew the more he threw the worse it gets. Only throw when the guy is wide open. Now he could end up good. But I think he'll be a Jimmy G type player. When the team can make him look good, he'll look good. Just like Michigan made JJ look good.

@@larrylindgren9484 I’m saying he could be an okay game manager because that’s what he was in Michigan. Get a good rb cause apparently he’s good at handing the ball off lol. Not every team is going to have a Mahomes, burrow, Lamar, or Allen so gotta find a way to make the best of what’s left. Def glad my team has Mahomes though!

@@larrylindgren9484 he has elite throwing on the run skills and processes well . He also can consistently make throws in small windows and is someone who looks better in person and on film . I think he is the second best quarterback after Caleb and his skillset translates better to the pro game . Don’t let that Michigan run heavy offense fool you. He is a baller and it will be shown

If he can stay healthy

I beg to differ

@@johnswanson3741 So who? Don't leave us hanging

My Money is on Drake Maye

Not allowed

Trevor and Burrow did it should they have been looked at with character concerns?

This happens almost every year nothing new

Not really, it's pointless for some positions and players. No reason to do it and risk injury. The medicals, weigh ins, interviews are the most important for QBs. the pro day will do the same as the combine. I think the combine workouts are huge for other positions though. it can make or break some prospects.

Those ACL tears didn't help.

He's older than teams want. They want 22 not 26. He's been healthy the last 2 years. So, it's not that. It's age and he wasn't a QB who was 1 read a run. Everyone thinks you need a QB who gets 1000 yards running. You don't. If the QB can't throw you win nothing. Look no farther than the Raven. Jackson isn't good in the pocket. When he has to make the play from the pocket the Ravens lose. The playoff against KC was the perfect example. He throws a ball that was into what triple coverage for a team crushing INT. That's Jackson. Yet everyone wants one. Why you don't win with one. You win with guy who make plays in the pocket who can run but it's not something they want to do. Penix can run but he chooses to actually throw the ball. Shocking a QB who throws the ball. If a team keeps him upright, he'll be very good. Just as good as Williams.

@@larrylindgren9484Finally someone says it. Running QBs don't win championships.

@@hcb2000And they do not last long in the NFL!

Aikman with a better arm??? JJ is like 6'3" 200lbs! Aikman is 6'5" 230 with a cannon!

At best JJ is Derek Carr! At best! 😂

@@deyampert3738 Hint, hint, I like Carr more then I like Aikman.

@@chrissinclair4442 well thats a shame! 🤣

@@deyampert3738 JJ McCarthy weighed in at 219lbs so you're way off there. Aikman was listed at 6'4" and 219lbs during his playing days, so again way off. McCarthy hit 61mph velocity and easily threw the ball 60+ yards in the air during throwing drills. He has a cannon, also. But don't let facts get in the way of your bias.

He threw pretty well, 40 time was bad and hes the shortest QB coming out this year. Probably 4th round.

@@john670 Appreciate you

Williams seems to be a diva. Bad attitude for the leader of a team!

Its a crapshoot. Look at all the guys that have gone in first round and were busts

Only if a day 2 or 3 pick

McCarthy would look much better in Purple!

Your logic is how Pittsburgh ended up with Kenny Pickett.

the best players spend the mandatory three years out of high school trying not to get hurt. that is why age matters

JJ completely outplayed Penix, head to head!

I really liked the way Rattler threw the ball at the combine. I dont like him as a top tier Qb though.

I see people like you twisting to underplay him. The dude’s a 5 star who was in the heisman race for good reason until he got hurt against penn state. He had mediocre stats the rest of the season, and it’s true they didn’t need him. I think you may need to be a fan to watch the earlier games to see the moments where he shines. His passes were dimes that didn’t seem different to penix’s to me until he lost that balance with the lower body injury I was talking about. It’s par for the course to me that he’s shining after a little time to rehab, and I fully expect him to exceed expectations in the nfl. He’s not able to run a 40 yet, but was clocked at a 4.4 earlier this season in case he can get back to that

@@InspirationalAlien751 the cool thing is we get to find out so in two years one of us gets to come back to these comments and say “I told ya so” lol

@@googlechicken just like the last comment chain where I did that to huskie’s fans saying we had no chance in the title game ;)

I know, right?

I would hope he’s closer he spent 5 years in college 😂

Didn't look that great against the only nfl style defense he played against 😂😂😂

Sure bec he's 4 yrs older

Until Penix gets hit once…JJ’s so young he still bounces by comparison.

I would say without his acl tears he would be in the top 3 conversation

How often is Simms right about something?

Apologies. I meant Bo Nix, as the best QB in this class. Sorry 😅

@@jkrasney1 No need to apologize, you wrong either way, Lol

I'll say 2 or 3

@@wack8589 Yeah he just didn’t look impressive to me at all! I mean Penix looked good but I’m so afraid of those 4 surgeries he’s had already

He won a natty. That's all he's got. Closes his eyes after the snap. Lol.

He's the most complete and best QB in the entire nation and the most intelligent, best educated, most unselfish, best leader , and most charismatic player in the NFL draft.

@ernestkovach3305 except he can't hit open receivers, can't read a defense, has no touch, and isn't really a leader. He's a jocked up fratboy, not a leader of men. Zach Wilson Lite

If Daboll goes another yr with Jones he'll be fired~

Or...they trade back in the 1st round, gain a second rounder and have a pick swap somewhere in the 4th round to make it happen.

That’s a massive if

@@cjcurtis8944 Heathy for the last two seasons.

@@winstonsyme5899 he was hobbled at times both seasons in a way that affected his ability. He’s got bum knees and shoulders. Not great for a high pick qb, buyer beware.

I think you may be seeing Russell Wilson going to your Steelers.

Penix got killed in that Michigan game.

the brother had terrible accuracy when not throwing to guys in shorts. It's all power no finesse

Milton is awful. Great measurables. Fails at everything else,

There was this guy that went to Ole Miss who had a limited tree route that came out a few years ago and his name....DK Metcalf.

Giants going to giant

literally every national championship team has great receivers. dafuq are you talking about?

Not like LSU, and don't talk down to me !@@w00deey12

Don't talk down to me, you think you're in the hood!@@w00deey12

Understandable. But he carved up a really good Texas Defense. Everybody has an off game. But JJ is not better than Penix Jr.

Right....

who cares

Bro who are you talking to in a YT comment section🤣🤣 "I told you all a long time ago"

In what universe lmao

Crack kills

Oh God no !!!! I'd prefer Jayden or Drake for my Pats.

Both will be mediocre. Sean peyton not wasting a pick like that

Mike triggered an NFL fanboy. You do realize these guys have pro days and private workouts, not to mention his college tape combine is not the be all end all relax he's not going to be the 3rd or 4th qb taken stop hating

Why does Caleb want to throw in front of every team? He's going to be a top 3 overall pick...most likely #1. Nothing good can come out of him throwing at the combine so why do it? You and I may not like it but it's the truth.

He’ll be the same age as burrow was coming into his rookie year, quit talking

24, lol.

JJ never won a single game, he was carried by his running backs and oline that’s why his stats are garbage