The fairytales of LeBron's "elite" defense has been going around various NBA circles for years, as has the fact he got "cheated" out of the DPOY. Time to separate the fact from the fiction...
@@cornbreadmilton5265what's sad is you n the rest of the clan members come on to this man's channel knowing the Facts he brings up n sit there n scroll to make a comment stop bitchin bout it if u don't like n move on
Another thing to remember is that Jordan didn't just win DPOY- he won it as a guard. Only five guards have ever done it, with the position being almost exclusively given to forwards and centers. That's the value MJ brought on defense while leading the league in scoring.
Sidney Moncrief won the first 2, Alvin Robertson a couple years later, then Mike, then the Glove Gary Payton, and then completely glazed over a couple years back Marcus Smart, in 41 years that is all the guards, the rest are 2 SF who win 3 between them, Ron Artest and Kawhi Leonard x2, the rest(32 awards)are bigs 💯
This is the era of grown men sitting around drinking wine gassing one another up like women telling themselves how strong independent and wonderful they are.
The most underrated , never discussed stat that Lebron stans wish no one will ever discuss or notice is Jordans 3 steals titles. How is it that Lebron has played 6 plus more seasons than Jordan yet he still trails him in steals by 254??
Another stat that never gets talked about his his rebound.. the offensive rebound. he only passed MJ in total offensive rebound just this season.. in 20 years. Most of his rebounds are easy - padded rebs.. not hard earned.
@@jayk6194 He should never get credited in the rebound category versus Jordan because he is bigger and taller. How is it that he only averages 7.5 rebounds while Jordan who is 6'6" averaged 6.2? You mean to tell me you are 3 inches taller yet you only averaged 1 rebound more than Jordan? That is a win for Jordan.
So very true. Melo, without a doubt, was robbed of that trophy. He deserved it. That, right there, should've told everyone just how biased the league was, and still is.
Even the GOAT himself, MJ says it's disrespectful to call someone a GOAT when they have never challenged All-Timers from different eras. That's what truely makes him the GOAT.
The wrong award in 12-13 was Marc Gasol being named to the Defensive Second Team instead of Defensive First team, not LeBron not winning Defensive Player of the Year.
MJ was such a great defender, he got FRIED by Rex Chapman for 39 points in 1996. Same year a rookie AI, broke both MJ's ankles. But 10-time All Defense in that star-studded 90's right? lololololol
@@skap_attack skap can you take a look at my recent video? Its lebron stealing kobes legacy and plagiarizing his qoute to cover his steriod scandal. And whys hes had "longevity"
@@skap_attack How can Lebron be a "good defender" when 1) Dwayne wade 2) Chad OchoCinco Jonnson 3) Michael Beasley ALL confirmed BEATING lebron james ONE on ONE in MIAMI !!!! (Lebalco) Lebron was never a good one on one defender (terrible lateral movement) he was a good HELP defender in his earlier years (passing lane steals and chase down blocks Kevin Durant got NOT ONE BUT TWO Finals MVPs on lebron playing the same position
@@JIX9ISLER1986 this is some good gotdamn points in this comment 😂. Honestly I didn’t hear about Chad Johnson beating him in a game of one on one. I might have to investigate that and do a video on it 😂 😂
@@skap_attack "I got a good story about LeBron when he was with the Heat. We played 1-on-1 at a YMCA," Johnson said on 'Nighcap.' "We played 21, and I beat him 21-17. Trust me, I'll lie for you before I lie to you. I beat him 21-17 for $1,000. I'm like that on the court. He didn't know that until we played and was like, 'God damn, Ocho, you quick as hell.' I caught him off the dribble, and he fell. I'm like that, I just chose not to play basketball. I'm a soccer player, then I'm a hooper." - Chad Johnson Funny we dont hear stories talking about players beating kobe or Jordan one on one only one i heard for jordan was Jerry stackhouse claiming to beat him and John sally said he beat kobe but hes a center so that doesnt really count lol This emperor(charlatan) has no clothes…..
@@JIX9ISLER1986 MAAAAN so utterly pathetic. Yeaaaah I think I smell a video coming about this topic sometime within the next week or so. I appreciate you sharing this with me 😂. And you’re spot on with the fact we never heard stories about people beating Kobe or Jordan. I know both of those guys feel as if they could beat anyone ever in 1-1.
Lmao 🤣 curry doesn’t play much defence neither Jokic so clearly it’s more than just defence LeBron didn’t have enough help or ran into superteams with a lesser squad.
@@dewman7477 HAHA STOP IT! Lebron has played with the most help in NBA history. I guess that’s why he only won bronze in the Olympics because he didn’t have help right. GTFOH with that lie. 😂😂😂
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No defense played in Lebronze's career can ever be called "elite." That's a slap in the nuts to real, actual defenders. The only defense I've ever seen him play is a chasedown once a year. Of course, then he had to rest for 3 games after that, but still...
Yup and we saw Jordan literally go back on defense whether they scored or lost the ball off a steal and stymied opposing team's fast break attacks on his own.
I would like to say that in 2013 Dpoy, Defensive Plus Minus:Marc Gasol: 3.1 (1st place)LeBron James: 2.4 (5th place) Defensive Win Shares: Marc Gasol: 5.4 (2nd place)LeBron James: 4.7 (10th place) Defensive Rating: (Individual) Marc Gasol: 98 (6th place) LeBron James: 101 (49th place) Defensive Rating :(Team) Memphis Grizzlies: 100.3 (2nd place) Miami Heat: 103.7 (9th place) It's not even that. I hate the fact that people act like it was only Lebron's award and that he got robbed. A simple look at the voting shows you that there was no consensus pick and there were many players who could've won it.
You’re right. The voting was VERY spread out that year. When the winner only has 200 some of a nearly 1200 total points, there really was no consensus.
@@skap_attack it also showed that defense isn't being taken seriously that time which worsened as seasons go by to the point that teams literally scoring 150 each every game.
The voting for DPOY award and All-Defensive honors that year is probably one of the strangest ones ever. The reason Gasol ended up on the 2nd team was because for some reason the coaches decided to vote and put 6 guys on the first team (the only time that has ever happened in NBA history). Also, the voting for that was super thin too (two guys on the first team barely made it there by 2 votes) and Gasol came a vote away from not making either team. I have zero idea why on Earth the votes were sooooo spread out that year.
7:47 what a childish and arrogant thing to say man thats so pathetic. This dude really thinks he is the best to ever touch a basketball and should receive every single title.
It would be a funny joke if he is joking about being a 3pt king over Curry or Allen. But he actually was a runner-up and just cannot put it to rest. Being able to say what he said, regardless if he is joking or not, is disrespectful and egotistical. Though at the end, he was half-joking at best.
@@retrictumrectus1010 i mean sure but marc gasol didnt say anything about it being disrespectful and i have heard other players say the same thing, like shaq on steve nash
If Skap could do a full season EACH match no defense clips for Lebron, labelling each match's no defense, each clip for 1 season, I think this would be stunning and long living clips. Worthwhile exploring. His standstill defense was there in every match, just expose him. If people/casuals see how frequent this is, he would be out of top 10 debate automatically.
@@skap_attackIf Skap could do a full season EACH match no defense clips for Lebron, labelling each match's no defense, each clip for 1 season, I think this would be stunning and long living clips. Worthwhile exploring. His standstill defense was there in every match, just expose him. If people/casuals see how frequent this is, he would be out of top 10 debate automatically.
Maaaaaan, LeBron is insufferable, no wonder he is so disliked. Dude really? Marc Gasol has your DPOY award at his house? What an overrated loser........
He’s not as disliked as u think he definitely has haters like yall but for the most part ppl appreciate his greatness and yes Marc gasol has Lebron trophy how do u win it without being 1st team all d?
Grown ass man, constantly goating himself, making crowning gestures, making his teammates make goat sounds as he enters the locker room is pathetic. Whatever greatness there may have been, it has long vanished in the mist of vanity that surrounds the chosen one.
When one of the biggest parts of your argument invokes the phrase "when he wants to he/when he gives the effort" you've lost the argument. Basketball is a two way sport and you're not supposed to play elite defense "when you feel like it." You're not going to always succeed even when you do but the point is you were trying.
GREAT POINT here. As that is a HUGE phrase thrown around when discussing Lebron’s defensive prowess. “When he wants to” 😂. Because as we know, he has to “save himself” for the other end. Pretty sure both Jordan and Kobe had higher career usage rates than Lebron. They didn’t save themselves tho.
And the thing is if this was a new phenomenon i'd be more sympathetic to the argument that he has to pick his spots to conserve energy. He is almost 40 and has played 21 seasons. But it's only recently has his age become a more reasonable excuse. His lack of effort goes all the way back to his second stint in Cleveland. He hasn't made ANY defensive teams since he was with the Heat. Not one. We have compilations of him standing on the other side of the court watching his teammates play 4 v 5 at the age of 30. If you go 100% some times, 50% most times and 0% at many spots the net result is a bad defender. You play poor/lazy defense more than great.
example： Lebron hopped with Wade and Bosh but did not want to win more than 2 rings when he could have got 8. Lebron could win in 2011 but did not want to.
@@tmoney360lets not bail LeBron out, his lack of effort goes back to 2011, he quit vs the Mavs. He didn't just choke, HE GAVE UP, after joining his buddies.
@@IsaacMSingleton1 no he def just choked in 2011, didnt have the skills needed, then in the offseason he trained with hakeem and others and become one of the greatest to ever do it
Yeah at age 34, the season Kobe tore his achilles, he was defending all the elite point guards. There's that segment of MJ talking about it and how ludacris is was, how Kobe is willing to go to the extreme, and he's just as cursed as Mj when it comes to that. It's great to play 21 years at a high level as Lebron has, but he's not playing defense like Kobe or MJ did. That's a major factor that separates them.
The mainstream media is Leslie Nielsen in The Naked Gun trying to convince everyone there's nothing to see here while the LeBalco fireworks factory is exploding in the background.
@@jessiegomez8209 Most don't, viewership being half of what it used to be should be telling enough. It would be even worse if people were blindly hating on it rather than watching it and giving honest critique. Some genuinely enjoy it and some genuinely hate it, fact remains that it lost a large amount of viewers throughout the regular season and an incredible amount for the finals.
@@Vennnnnnnnnn i mean thats probably also cuz a lot of people watch illegaly now since its more accessible, if your saying that online views are less or tv views are less. If your talking about people in the stadium then fair
he choked in one series, what are u talking about. hes had series where he came back 3-1 and other series like the celtics where he was the sole reason they won. just cuz a player chokes one series out of his like 10 - 20 doesnt mean he chokes, if giannis gets dunked on is he a bad defender, no.
People say he got robbed of dpoy but gasol was averaging more blocks and steals because he lebron was the most versatile defender but versatile isnt always better defense and his versitility is exaggerated a lot
You're not gonna believe this, but I've been told by LeBalco's fanboys that him leaving shooters open is smart defense cause they're more likely to miss than to score given their 3 point percentages. And they were dead serious. This is the level they'll go to justify his atrocious defense.
jr smith or iman shumpert litteraly said that in an interview that he knew that he shot worse from a certain area at the 3, lebron still doesnt give a lot of effort on defence, but his teammates can back up that claim
LeTravel switched to full time acting (flopping) since 2014. Even during the 5-6 years when he was working hard at the defensive end, playing good D, he wasn't locking down on 33 y.o. Paul Pierce as he was scoring & hitting daggers in his face, while Ron Artest, locked down Pierce during G7 of Celtics Lakers Finals during the same time. He had the flashy chase down blocks but you never see him chase after anyone around screens nor draw charges.
If you visit the wiki page for NBA All-Defensive teams, LeNoDefense doesn't even belong to the top list of players who were able to enter that lineup. How does he have elite defense again?
@@skap_attack LeThreeVotes was over 10 years ago but the narrative makers keep clinging on to it 💀 Every time I bother to tune into a Lakers game, when the other team has the ball, this dude is walking like molasses scratching his junk and shrugging when the other team makes the goal. Meanwhile geriatric Jordan with a knee more swollen than LBJ's ego was sneaking up on ppl and blocking layups.
@@phamnhat2925Jordan played absolutely zero defense with the Wizards and on offense, he was jacking up shots on garbage efficiency, leading his team to missing the playoffs in what y’all say is the weakest conference ever
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d8x8BGcFYJE.htmlsi=7WKuQLuSVb_5ZuBv yea… because you don’t watch games this is lebron having kd in Alcatraz in 2012
So the year LBJ feel he was cheated for best defensive player Shane Battier was playing defense on the tougher players. James did not wanna stick Shawn Marion so they put him on Terry.
@@sunshinehwy2558When Jason Terry was burning him most the time James was leaving him open to stand under the basket and get rebounds. Look up Jason Terry schools James video.
Lebron has only ever ONE time taken the challenge to defend and lock down an elite player. And that was Derek Rose, in 2011 (I believe). That’s one instance in 21 years and he’s been living on that one instance for 15 years while posing as an “elite” defender. It’s an absolute joke smh. THANKS SO MUCH for watching and supporting the channel 🙏❤️
Fr, i feel like sometimes this Channel underrates him a bit, Kobe himself would have told you that he was CRUCIAL to those 2 Championships, por cierto viva España Btw: i just realized i praised the wrong Gasol lmaoooooooooooo
@@KB8Killa wow one player, nowadays you have to guard everyone at the 3 point line, also larry bird attempted 3 threes a game, which is the same amount as grant williams. Nowadays you have role players shooting 8-9 threes a game like malik beasley.
No other fanbase in sports in general and not only in Basketball has more hypothetical scenarios to support a GOAT case than LeBron James, His hypothetical DPOTY he was cheated out of, His hypothetical rings against Warriors he was robbed off etc 😂. It's almost like these people are kids playing make believe to put him over Jordan
Exactly dudes a clown using defensive rating when that has a lot to do with who ur on the court with, gasol had 2 other all defensive players on his team
@@fullmetal1766 they were, however that grizzlies team had prime all nba level defenders on the perimeter. Made gasol’s life a lot easier. Not taking anything away from gasol.
@@fatman3177 We don't have to "find" reasons to "hate". LeBron gives us plenty. Oh, and by the way, just because we don't like a certain person, doesn't mean we "hate" that person. Hate is an extremely strong emotion that can actually damage the person doing it. You LeBron fanboys need to learn the difference between "hating" something and disliking it. In other words, you need to stop "hating" people who don't agree with your highly biased and misinformed opinions.
@@Fernando-vg4ym no some of u guys def hate lebron, skap attack has a whole channel dedicate to saying lebron is trash, if that isnt hating idk wihat is
Defense?? Did commissioner Adam James approve this concept? How will this help me become the greatest player when I already beat the Celtics in February?
I’ve NEVER understood the he “can” guard 1-5, yet I’ve never seen him guard Duncan, Shaq, KG, Dirk, Gasol, Embiid, Randolph, or even Amare in his prime. MIA was the best Bron defensively I’ll admit.
He was a very good to (AT TIMES) great defender in Miami. Since he left there he’s been average to poor on defense. And he could never viable defend actual bigs. Just one more bit of nonsense propaganda.
yeah fair, i think when people say this they more mean he can guard 1 - 5 of average players, like lebron could lock up an average big but realistically who could lock up duncan, shaq, kg, dirk, embiid. There is a clip of him locking up gasol for a play but it was one play so doesnt mean much
LeBalco couldn't even _Feast on the Leastern Conference_ 😂🤣 Edit: so wait- he didn't win? We supposed to give the man a fawking participation trophy?!?
LeBron had the physical attributes to be defensive player of the year especially in his prime but it simply wasn’t important enough. I his own words there were times when his mind “went blank”. Not to mention the many times he just stands there.
He doesn’t have the competitive drive or the desire to compete at that end at a high enough level to be considered an elite defender. Let alone to be thought of as the best defender for a season.
In LeBrons last season with Miami at age 28-29 LeBron played 77 games and had a total of 26 blocked shots. Jeremy Linn had more than him. In comparison to Michael Jordans age 28-29 season mj had 30 blocked shots in a 16 game stretch. And isn't LeBron supposed to be bigger faster stronger.
As Angry Old Hoops Fan would say, LeBum has mainly 2 go-to defensive stances 1. The signature "Help without the 'Help' "defensive stance 2. The "thats not my problem" defensive stance
I was thinking, Has there ever been an all time athlete that didnt drive ratings. Usually when a once in a lifetime sportsman appears, people tune in to watch it. There has been a decrease in the NBA since Lebron rose to the top.
Honestly I've never thought of LeBron as an elite defender. He plays the passing lanes well and can get a few chase down blocks but he has never locked anyone up. There are compilations of him getting his ankles broken
Lebron’s most famous blocks are chase downs or from the weak side. He can’t face guard anybody, the media saying he can “guard all 5 positions” gotta be the biggest lie, he cannot guard legit 7 foot 280+ lbs centers (Embiid, Jokic and them), he also cannot stay in front of quick PGs (Rose, Ja, Russ). I’ve only seen 3 people on my life guard all 5 positions (Rodman, Draymond and OG Anunoby, OG more 1-4 but the occasional C he can hold his own against)
Skap can you cover this new lebron scandal? I asked whitlock to and he said its not newsworthy.... even tho we all know anything lebron does is newsworthy let alone something related to his recent steriod scandal.
The year Mike won DPOY he averaged 3.2 steals per game and 1.6 blocks per game. Lebron has never come close to those numbers in any of his 21 seasons. It took Lebron 17 seasons to pass Mike in total career blocks and in 21 seasons he still hasn't passed him in career steals.
He hasn't played in an era that fast with perimeter players that limited offensively, but we're talking basketball, and we know that isn't your strong suit.
So LeBron “defends 1 through 5”, eh? Then he should have shut down Dirk Nowitski in 2011 to get that ring for his team. But instead LeBron couldn’t even shut down Jason Fucking Terry! Or how about shut down Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, or KD, or Steph Curry? How come this alleged “elite defender” didn’t stop these guys from beating his team in finals? We all know the answer: a chase down block every now and then does NOT make you an “elite defender”.
Lebron is very uncomfortable accepting praise you know… unless he is praising himself, then please continue. He is a masterpraiser amongst other similar accolades.
Some times DPOY is determined by a big margin between 1st and 2nd place, like prime Dwight Howard in 09-11. Some times it is closer like Chandler(311) and Ibaka(294) in 2012 or Gasol(212) and James(149) in 2013. But in the end a win is a win. Michael Jordan won his last championship by 1 point. Some might say "Jazz was robbed of victory". But majority celebrate on MJ's clutch greatness.
LeBron never guarded anyone of note. Watch him against Kawhi in 2014 finals. He was his primary defender. KD averaged an efficent 32ppg in the 2012 finals and 35ppg on 50/40/90 in 2017. Why wasnt LeBron guarding KD?
why are you acting like its not kd, arguably the best score of all time, and lebron did guard him its just they wanted to rest him so he can help out the offence, because kd was probbaly going to get a bucket regardless if it was lebron or like richard jefferson
@@fatman3177 why are you acting like LeBron takes the challenge? He's a great defender. Name who he's stopped in the postseason. Kawhi, KD, The Truth, Tatum, Jalen, Drose, Oladipo, Jokic, Steph, Jamal Murray. Who dafaq has he guarded to a bad game?
Tbh, even 37yr old Duncan had a way better DPOY case than Bettis. Spurs were 3rd in Drtg; Duncan was 1st in Drtg, 2nd in DBPM, 4th in DWS. Hell, KD led a better defense and had better advanced stats on defense than Bettis that year. And led his team to the #1 pt differential in the NBA, playing in the vastly superior West. So that right there should’ve also nuked the idea that Bettis should’ve won unanimous MVP
He really does loaf around and save his energy for the offense end of the court - that and the millions he’s dumped into his body/constant load management via only playing ONE SINGLE 82 game season in his 21 year career is why he reached 40k points.
😂 that mf was never a defensive player.. he had moments... Maybe in his younger years but even then he was t consistent... And it's funny how 2k use to buff his defense abilities... LeBron and Luka play pretty identical... It's only Luka is a better shooter, but both players are lazy as hell... Defense is so lost now in most sports... Even baseball is starting to look like low football scores now
ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d8x8BGcFYJE.htmlsi=7WKuQLuSVb_5ZuBv stop lying y’all get on here trying to change this man career daily, we lived thru it we saw him defend night in night out
